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IMO the best way to bet game 1 of the nba finals is to live bet throughout the game with a lean towards the warriors. Both of these teams are super streaky. You've seen it multiple times through the playoffs, where one team will go down a lot and vice versa. I don't know who will win Game 1, but I feel confident that at some point in the game the warriors will be down by 10+ points and you can get a pretty good warriors line at like +4 or +5. I do think that regardless of who wins this game the outcome will likely be close, and if the dubs go down big vs the raptors, i feel better about their ability to climb out of the hole then the raptors. Considering how large the swings are in Warriors game, and sometimes the Raptors as we saw many times against the Bucks, you might even be able to build in a little bit of arbitrage. You could be in a situation where all you are risking is the juice if there are large swings in the game, but you could double up if the end falls within the arbitrage parameters. For instance, if you can get dubs at +4 or 5 and then the dubs go on a run and then you get Toronto at +2 or 3in the 3rd quarter when the dubs play the best ball of anyone in any quarter, then you have both sides and if the game falls in between dubs +4 and toronto +2 then you can win both bets. If it falls out of there you lose the juice on both bets. Essentially you are risking 10% of each of your bets for a chance to win 90%.
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**Macwesties THURS. & SUN. Nov. 22 & 25, 2018 * (Week #12) * NFL Football Plays***
in NFL Betting Macwesties, even though I ended up pushing on the Rams, I still came up $12k last weekend almost completely based on your picks. I didn't like your Saints pick which ended up covering and went with the Rams instead which ended up pushing. I think I had one of my games in there that I picked as well. Anyways, just wanted to say thanks man, and good luck with this week, hope you keep it rolling! |
Macwestie1 | 60 |
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Macwesties...thank you thank you thank you thank you.
Believe it or not I did a 7 team round robin with 6 of your picks and a 7 team parlay. I stand to win about $12k if the Rams cover tonight. Again, thank you thank you thank you. Question for you now is given my position would you hedge this bet? If so, by how much?
Thanks |
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Okc -3.5 Blazers -2.5 Cle -6 Round Robin and Parlay OKC, Blazers and CLE ML Robin Robin and Parlay.
Here's to hoping! |
tonychiza | 1 |
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budweiser, we're all squares my man. maybe except you my fantastically sharp witted gambling friend.
i'm a believer that the amount of money doesn't make you a sharp, you can just be a bad gambler. I have a couple other sports betting accounts and generally bet with the one that gives me the best line. With that said, I like using bovada, quick and easy with bitcoin. Does that make me a square? Who knows. I do know I lost a little in the regular season, but have since made it back plus a lot more in the playoffs for what it's worth. I don't believe in games being rigged and officiants intentionally adjusting scores in games to keep it close for ratings etc, but I do believe that the media and even vegas to a certain agree does try to influence the public prior to the beginning of the game and feel like we are seeing that with the Eagles.
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tonychiza | 14 |
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Gambleholic, I was sitting here thinking I was smart buying it down to the 4, just because I feel like the most common prediction, along with Madden's prediction, haha was that it would end up being a 4 pt game.
Your logic makes sense though, when you put it like having to land on the 4 in excess of 1 out of 5 times to make a realized profit, if the books proposed the bet to me that way, I wouldn't take that bet...hmm...thanks for the insight!! too late for me though, i'm already in for a lot on the pats -4 haha...
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tonychiza | 14 |
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I've been waiting for Bovada to have -4.5 for the Pats. Going LARGE on buying the half point to -4 (-120) for the Pats. PATS Money Line at -175
Also, took Pats +105 -3 halftime line Prop Bets: Pats Over 13.5 half time. Pats over 27 for the game. Pats/Pats - They need to be up at the half and for the game. Brady Over 285.5 Yards Brady Over 2 Touchdowns Brady -.5 more touchdowns than Foles Brady -25.5 more passing yards than Foles Brady under 2.5 rushing yards Foles under 1.5 rushing yards
My cliff notes reasoning: Gronk is going to be available for the super bowl. Brandon Cooks is a huge upgrade to the receiving corps compared to last year's SB. Danny Amendola is the perfect Edelman replacement, especially in big games where he excels. He's always been an amazing receiver, he could just never stay on the field. His catch rate increases significantly in big games and he already has a couple super bowl touchdowns. Blount mouthing off. Anytime a player on the team does this I always take this as a bad sign. Please note, I would be betting on the Eagles with a healthy Caron Wentz, but even with the Eagles having a better defense I just don't see Foles being able to keep up with the Patriots in this one. Looking at the prop bets Vegas already expects the Eagles to turn the ball over more frequently even with a better Eagles defense. I think a lot of it will come down to stopping Ajayi. If the Pats can stop Ajayi from having one of his special games he's been known to have with the Dolphins, then I think Wentz will have difficulty moving the ball. The Super Bowl is a different beast, and I definitely think experience is going to play a major factor here. Better offense than last year, more experience, better running game, healthier team is all an advantage to the PATS. The fact that they almost lost to the Jags does not deter me. Pats tend to not make the same mistake twice, and they overlooked the Jags in a way. I actually think the fact that they almost lost to the Jags is going to help them focus for the Super Bowl.
TL:DR - My prediction is Pats win this game by double digits.
Good luck everybody! |
tonychiza | 14 |
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OKC - 5 Knicks, bought half point to +6 Heat -9
Bet each game individually, did a 3-team parlay and a 3-team round robin. Good luck all! |
tonychiza | 1 |
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Added a couple more:
2-team teaser KC ml and Carolina -1 - $200 to win $166.67 3-team teaser KC ml and Buffalo -1 and Cincy ML - $103.66 to win $155.49
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tonychiza | 2 |
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I played two additional bets last week I didn't post, and lost an additional $1,700 almost on those two bets...oops.
Down -$1,605.09 for the year. Tonight: Cincy -6 - $550 to win $500 2 team Teaser Cincy ML & Carolina -1 - $240 to win 200
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tonychiza | 2 |
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Adding a few others:
$105 to win $100 - Bengals -3 $105 to win $572.95 - 5 team Parlay, Atlanta ML, Bengals ML, Bills ML, Skins +1, Steelers ML $100 to win $238.21 - 4 team Parlay, Atlanta ML, Bengals ML, Bills ML, Steelers ML
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tonychiza | 5 |
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Skins ML
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ASmartMan | 48 |
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Thanks Howzuck, that's awesome advice, very much appreciated! I like the under 8.5 wins for the Eagles, I'll have to check that out.
By the way, I'm not super sold on the niners, the only reason I put $75 on their moneyline is because I'm a fan and I'm going to be at the game, haha.
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tonychiza | 5 |
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+$1,000 for the year.
$75 to win $150 - Niners Moneyline $1,100 to win $1000 - Redskins +1 $200 to win $240 - 3 team 7 pt teaser Bills -2, Skins +8, Steelers -2 $705.19 to win $542.45 - 2 team 6.5 pt teaser Bills -2.5, Steelers -2.5
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tonychiza | 5 |
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I've never kept track of how I've done. All in all I'm likely pretty close to breaking even lifetime. I want to track all of my picks this football season to see how I do. Bet w me or don't, I don't care you aren't paying me.
Tonight I put $1,150 to win $1,000 on KC +9. |
tonychiza | 2 |
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So far, I like over 1.5 3pts for draymond, they seem to be leaving him open all series and daring him to shoot.
I think Lebron will feel fatigue tonight, so I bet "no" on whether he will achieve a triple double tonight. I bet the over on Kyrie points because I think he just seems to play significantly better at home and still scores 30 points tonight. I kind of think Tristan Thompson finally breaks out of his funk, and was going to bet the over 6.5 rebounds for him. Any suggestions for some good prop betting? I don't like to bet baseball, so I'm putting my full bank roll on this game, and most of my money is already on GS - 6 and under 229. I'm just putting the rest of my bankroll on a bunch of little prop bets here and there etc.
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tonychiza | 8 |
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Is it crazy because of the dollar amount? I think the reason is I really like situations where I can get better money than doing a teaser parlay.
The ML parlay paid about 95 cents on the dollar and I'd be getting better odds than a 5 point teaser parlay which pays 80 cents on the dollar. It's rare when you can get value like that from the books IMO.
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tonychiza | 7 |
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I did a CavsML, Spurs ML Parlay for 1100
I did a CavsML, SpursML, CeltsML, Dubs ML Parlay for 500 I did a CavsML, SpursML, and over in cavs parlay for 100 I did a CavsmL, SpursML, and over in spurs game parlay for 100 I did a CavsML, SpursML, and over in both games for 200 good luck all... if both the ML hit, i'll likely put 500 on the Wiz at +5.5 as a hedge and hope to hit both in tomorrow's Celts/Wiz game
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tonychiza | 7 |
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I initially thought the line would bump up to 3.5, but I feel like there is enough Atlanta love out there that it's likely not going to happen.
Patriots started out with heavy juice, -120, -115, but it's mostly -110 now and some even have it the pats at -105.
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starxx | 11 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Contrarian21: not forgetting it, just know it's built in the line. Pretty sad if Pats are -3 with the "experience factor." BB can be defeated too. This is a Falcons line. How about having the better defense, quarterback, coach and experience? When I think of experience, I think of the Panthers coming into the Super Bowl and getting manhandled by the Broncos.
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Contrarian21 | 24 |
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