New Zealand

haha this is asking for u to bet.

NZ loses all the time in the quaters and semis like all the time. If they have to play france they have no chance. wait till they pick the team., If they go for old players NZ wont win, if they go for the young stars then they have a good chance

I think you need old heads to win a World Cup.

Henry benched our best players last time and then France cameback and won. Some will say a forward pass beat us, but really it was a shocking coaching decision to take McCaw and Carter off with plenty of time on the clock.

That is not a good price to take NZ though, you'd be better off backing them to win the Tri Nations as aussie will be 'preparing' which is another word for 'we suck atm'.. and SA's team look just as bad....

NZ winning the WC is like the England soccer team winning. Everyone thinks you should win, but doens't provide much evidential backup to prove so. I wouldn't bet something a team has only won 1/6, but in saying that, you'll be throwing money away backing any other team except NZ, AUS, SA... and if England or France win then I'll do a merry naked dance.

Just send the Crusaders team out there.

Your money will be safer than in the bank

Strongly disagree all we ever do is play old heads and gues what we dont win. They say dont change something that aint broke. Well this is broke so needs to be changed. Instead of picking a good defensive team that has no flear pick youngsters with lots of flear who will score alot of tryies and win games that way. Teams will struggle to play that team.

Alrighty Snake. Lets see this example..

Mils vs Rene Ranger.

Who do you want in the final when your team is up by 5pts with the opposition on the line.... You want Mils.. Young, (talented) players like Ranger can score awesome tries when the defense is tired, but when it matters, the 'old heads' will win you the game everytime...

I dont see any young players in the backline in the finals except SBW(who really isn't very young).... Cowan, Carter, SBW, Ma'a, Conrad, Mils, Sivi.. no young new guys there, and none needed.

Not sure about the forward pack.

Why isnt anyone talking about Israel Dagg?

My argument wasn't a positional one Davonz....

Dagg is in the same category... For a WC? No, perhaps next years tri-nations, but he should be on the bench and play the silly pool games...

The line is short coz we whipped both ozi and South Africa. At the moment if was betting man i would say throw down on Aussie v NZ final mate.

All Blacks look very good in their first couple hit outs.