These people just need to stop! ENOUGH! Just talked with one and he swears up and down if the goal counted going into the half different formation, etc and different game and they would have won! I am like WTF?!?! ARE YOU KIDDING!?! The guy was serious. He says everything was different since they were down and that's why Germany scored 3 MORE GOALS!
I then tell the guy I do not think the English teams is top elite World Class Material and they are perhaps the most overrated team in the world with all their "SUPPOSED" top 50 players?!?! My point is I do not think they would have beat Germany. Germany totally outplayed them and even if there goal was allowed (WHICH IT SHOULD HAV BEEN BY THE WAY) Germany had their number. I say look back to the group level where they could not beat ALGERIA!! USA and Slovenia beat Algeria right?!
Anyway, most teams get shit calls in this WC; got to factor it in best you could and move foward. USA did and won their group! Sure we got knock out in the 16 but we moved past adversity of GETTING ROBBED BY AT LEAST 2 TERRIBLE CALLS, ONE UNDOUBTABLY AS BAD AS ENGLANDS DISALLOWED GOAL!
Go home England and shut your whining pusses up! You would have not beaten ANY of the following teams anyway: Brazil, Argentina, Spain, Netherlands, Uruguay.
Have some tea and crumpets for me you left wankers!
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These people just need to stop! ENOUGH! Just talked with one and he swears up and down if the goal counted going into the half different formation, etc and different game and they would have won! I am like WTF?!?! ARE YOU KIDDING!?! The guy was serious. He says everything was different since they were down and that's why Germany scored 3 MORE GOALS!
I then tell the guy I do not think the English teams is top elite World Class Material and they are perhaps the most overrated team in the world with all their "SUPPOSED" top 50 players?!?! My point is I do not think they would have beat Germany. Germany totally outplayed them and even if there goal was allowed (WHICH IT SHOULD HAV BEEN BY THE WAY) Germany had their number. I say look back to the group level where they could not beat ALGERIA!! USA and Slovenia beat Algeria right?!
Anyway, most teams get shit calls in this WC; got to factor it in best you could and move foward. USA did and won their group! Sure we got knock out in the 16 but we moved past adversity of GETTING ROBBED BY AT LEAST 2 TERRIBLE CALLS, ONE UNDOUBTABLY AS BAD AS ENGLANDS DISALLOWED GOAL!
Go home England and shut your whining pusses up! You would have not beaten ANY of the following teams anyway: Brazil, Argentina, Spain, Netherlands, Uruguay.
Have some tea and crumpets for me you left wankers!
Just heard Englinsh coach and Lampard whining in their post game interviews BOTH DOING NOTHING BUT ARGUING THE CALL and GIVING NO CREDIT TO GERMANY WHATSOEVER!!!!
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Just heard Englinsh coach and Lampard whining in their post game interviews BOTH DOING NOTHING BUT ARGUING THE CALL and GIVING NO CREDIT TO GERMANY WHATSOEVER!!!!
I some what agree with England. They had momentum with a 2-2 tie at half if they would have counted the goal. They come out for the 2nd half with a diffent stratagy, but we will never know
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I some what agree with England. They had momentum with a 2-2 tie at half if they would have counted the goal. They come out for the 2nd half with a diffent stratagy, but we will never know
2-2 is a different ballgame 2nd half. Less risktaking, bigger confidence coming down from 0-2, more energy. The only reason Germany scored on those counters was because England went all out attack. I still think they would have eventually lost, but no Q it would have been a much tighter game
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2-2 is a different ballgame 2nd half. Less risktaking, bigger confidence coming down from 0-2, more energy. The only reason Germany scored on those counters was because England went all out attack. I still think they would have eventually lost, but no Q it would have been a much tighter game
I don't think anyone can say England would have won...... however, i don't think anyone can say they would not have won...... that was a huge goal that was disallowed... 2-2 with all of the momentum is much much much much much different than 2-1 and deflated over a bad call......
Fact is, if that game is tied 2-2, it is a coin flip game at that point...... anybody who argues that is full of it!
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I don't think anyone can say England would have won...... however, i don't think anyone can say they would not have won...... that was a huge goal that was disallowed... 2-2 with all of the momentum is much much much much much different than 2-1 and deflated over a bad call......
Fact is, if that game is tied 2-2, it is a coin flip game at that point...... anybody who argues that is full of it!
Listen, Germany definitely was the better team yesterday, BUT, Germans would have been rocked with the 2 quick goals and you never know what would happen if it was 2-2. It was very obvious England was pressing when they were down a goal late in the game so the final score does not tell the story at all. I've been against replay all along but they have to use it now (like MLB and the other sports) to not let these gross injustices happen. No sour grapes here (although it cost me a bet on England team total over 1 - I have to be honest), but that was a goal - they are hard to get in World Cup, can't lose one like that.
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Listen, Germany definitely was the better team yesterday, BUT, Germans would have been rocked with the 2 quick goals and you never know what would happen if it was 2-2. It was very obvious England was pressing when they were down a goal late in the game so the final score does not tell the story at all. I've been against replay all along but they have to use it now (like MLB and the other sports) to not let these gross injustices happen. No sour grapes here (although it cost me a bet on England team total over 1 - I have to be honest), but that was a goal - they are hard to get in World Cup, can't lose one like that.
I don't think anyone can say England would have won...... however, i don't think anyone can say they would not have won...... that was a huge goal that was disallowed... 2-2 with all of the momentum is much much much much much different than 2-1 and deflated over a bad call......
Fact is, if that game is tied 2-2, it is a coin flip game at that point...... anybody who argues that is full of it!
And in a 2-2 game England's not having 9 up and allowing easy breaks. Game's a coin flip as you said. Refs have been bad. I really hope they change it but even if they eventually do it's not going to change anything in this WC.
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Quote Originally Posted by WC_Fields:
I don't think anyone can say England would have won...... however, i don't think anyone can say they would not have won...... that was a huge goal that was disallowed... 2-2 with all of the momentum is much much much much much different than 2-1 and deflated over a bad call......
Fact is, if that game is tied 2-2, it is a coin flip game at that point...... anybody who argues that is full of it!
And in a 2-2 game England's not having 9 up and allowing easy breaks. Game's a coin flip as you said. Refs have been bad. I really hope they change it but even if they eventually do it's not going to change anything in this WC.
DiverRon-Chill would you England wasnt dominated in this game, they had more shots on net and they had more time of possesion it was lax defending that cost them,scoring goals is not easy in Football one goal could have most definetly made the diffrence in the momentum.
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DiverRon-Chill would you England wasnt dominated in this game, they had more shots on net and they had more time of possesion it was lax defending that cost them,scoring goals is not easy in Football one goal could have most definetly made the diffrence in the momentum.
DiverRon-Chill would you England wasnt dominated in this game, they had more shots on net and they had more time of possesion it was lax defending that cost them,scoring goals is not easy in Football one goal could have most definetly made the diffrence in the momentum.
"LAX DEFENDING COST THEM THE GAME" you say? Isn't defense HALF OF THE GAME of ANY sport? England is rubbish. Notice when Chile had ball today and tried to knock it in on Chile, Brazilian defenders were on them like flies on shit? DEFENSE IS EVERYTHING IN SOCCER AND A TEAM AT THE WC LEVEL WILL NEVER ADVANCE FAR WITHOUT TOP NOTCH DEFENSE.
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Quote Originally Posted by DFlyersFan_82:
DiverRon-Chill would you England wasnt dominated in this game, they had more shots on net and they had more time of possesion it was lax defending that cost them,scoring goals is not easy in Football one goal could have most definetly made the diffrence in the momentum.
"LAX DEFENDING COST THEM THE GAME" you say? Isn't defense HALF OF THE GAME of ANY sport? England is rubbish. Notice when Chile had ball today and tried to knock it in on Chile, Brazilian defenders were on them like flies on shit? DEFENSE IS EVERYTHING IN SOCCER AND A TEAM AT THE WC LEVEL WILL NEVER ADVANCE FAR WITHOUT TOP NOTCH DEFENSE.
Germany didnt dominate the game thats what im saying all these idiots jumping on the German bandwagon alot of them English commentators, if you look at the time of possesion and shots on target you can clearly see England was in control.
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Germany didnt dominate the game thats what im saying all these idiots jumping on the German bandwagon alot of them English commentators, if you look at the time of possesion and shots on target you can clearly see England was in control.
Germany didnt dominate the game thats what im saying all these idiots jumping on the German bandwagon alot of them English commentators, if you look at the time of possesion and shots on target you can clearly see England was in control.
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Quote Originally Posted by DFlyersFan_82:
Germany didnt dominate the game thats what im saying all these idiots jumping on the German bandwagon alot of them English commentators, if you look at the time of possesion and shots on target you can clearly see England was in control.
England had a clear goal called back. No question, the game may have changed at 2-2 instead of 2-1. The fact is the Krauts handled the second half situation better and took advantage of a very average English team and poured in 2 more goals. In terms of responding to adversity, the English folded like cheap tents. This is hardly the trait of a world class team. In fact, the POMS were fortunate to get out of the Group stage. So, it anyone really surprised they lost to a better German squad??
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England had a clear goal called back. No question, the game may have changed at 2-2 instead of 2-1. The fact is the Krauts handled the second half situation better and took advantage of a very average English team and poured in 2 more goals. In terms of responding to adversity, the English folded like cheap tents. This is hardly the trait of a world class team. In fact, the POMS were fortunate to get out of the Group stage. So, it anyone really surprised they lost to a better German squad??
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