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    Fanduel is telling me my Chelsea -1 is a loss

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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2022 - 4:23 PM ET #1

    No book grades that way. and the odds would have been much higher than +160 if that were the case but they are saying that it's a loss

     

    Chelsea won 1-0. Am I wrong?

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    No book grades that way. and the odds would have been much higher than +160 if that were the case but they are saying that it's a loss

     

    Chelsea won 1-0. Am I wrong?

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2022 - 4:28 PM ET #2

    contact support, they will correct your play just have bet #

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    contact support, they will correct your play just have bet #

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2022 - 4:30 PM ET #3

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     You were already advised by the previous advisor being able to confirm that it was settled correctly. The Handicap was Chelsea -1 and they won exactly by 1, so the winning selection would have been a handicap draw. This matters in scoring and in the house rules.

     

     

    This is what they told me.

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     You were already advised by the previous advisor being able to confirm that it was settled correctly. The Handicap was Chelsea -1 and they won exactly by 1, so the winning selection would have been a handicap draw. This matters in scoring and in the house rules.

     

     

    This is what they told me.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2022 - 4:30 PM ET #4

    I don’t use fan dual. I have a buddy who does. And his was as well. Soon as he told me -1 was +160. I knew it was one of those bets where they had to win by 2. -1 on my book was -105 and the -1.5 was +160

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    I don’t use fan dual. I have a buddy who does. And his was as well. Soon as he told me -1 was +160. I knew it was one of those bets where they had to win by 2. -1 on my book was -105 and the -1.5 was +160

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2022 - 4:30 PM ET #5

    They have Asian handicaps as well as another handicap. If it has odds like that even with -2. It would require a 3 goal win 

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    They have Asian handicaps as well as another handicap. If it has odds like that even with -2. It would require a 3 goal win 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2022 - 4:34 PM ET #6

    They must have JUST changed this. I used to bet these all the time. What a scumbag book. I understand reading rules, but it's basically worldwide that -1 means a push if they win by 1. They love being scumbags and taking peoples money/posting lines too late.

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    They must have JUST changed this. I used to bet these all the time. What a scumbag book. I understand reading rules, but it's basically worldwide that -1 means a push if they win by 1. They love being scumbags and taking peoples money/posting lines too late.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2022 - 4:36 PM ET #7

    I have bet -1 there before and it be graded a push. This is a way to steal money. No other book does this (which is why they offer .5 lines). I wish 5dimes would get their license for the states. Fanduel is a shit site

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    I have bet -1 there before and it be graded a push. This is a way to steal money. No other book does this (which is why they offer .5 lines). I wish 5dimes would get their license for the states. Fanduel is a shit site

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2022 - 4:47 PM ET #8

    Just found out they are the only book that does this. LOL america needs more competition, any other book that's a push. What a waste and scummy.

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    Just found out they are the only book that does this. LOL america needs more competition, any other book that's a push. What a waste and scummy.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2022 - 4:47 PM ET #9

    European handicap instead of asian handicap. William Hill for example is the same. Gotta read that fine print. 

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    European handicap instead of asian handicap. William Hill for example is the same. Gotta read that fine print. 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2022 - 5:09 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Ganda:

    European handicap instead of asian handicap. William Hill for example is the same. Gotta read that fine print.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ganda:

    European handicap instead of asian handicap. William Hill for example is the same. Gotta read that fine print.

     

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    Books make bank off of people not reading the stipulations of a wager..

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2022 - 5:13 PM ET #11

    The problem is outside of the rules where does it say European or Asian?

     

    if you read their rules it says there is a push option, but then also states it doesn’t. Unless I’m reading incorrectly. No where does it just up and say euro or Asian 

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    The problem is outside of the rules where does it say European or Asian?

     

    if you read their rules it says there is a push option, but then also states it doesn’t. Unless I’m reading incorrectly. No where does it just up and say euro or Asian 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2022 - 5:35 PM ET #12

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     The odds. The Asian odds for -1 were around +100 or so, depending where. At +160 it’s clearly the Euro odds, thus no pushes 

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     The odds. The Asian odds for -1 were around +100 or so, depending where. At +160 it’s clearly the Euro odds, thus no pushes 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2022 - 7:39 PM ET #13

    Okay but I don’t shop lines, so how would I know that?

     

    the first paragraph of their rules states this

     

    Our sportsbook offers 3-way spreads on soccer fixtures as well. In a typical scenario for spread betting, the favorites are pre-penalized (-1) or (-2) or (-2 ½) goals and can win, lose, or “push” the outcome based on the final score. This would potentially produce a returned-bet scenario by winning by the same (-1) or (-2) margin that’s been handicapped in the betting market. However, at FanDuel, gamblers are given three options on the spread: Favorite-to-cover, Underdog-to-cover, or Handicap Draw.

     

     

    doesn’t it say can win, lose, or DRAW the spread?

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    Okay but I don’t shop lines, so how would I know that?

     

    the first paragraph of their rules states this

     

    Our sportsbook offers 3-way spreads on soccer fixtures as well. In a typical scenario for spread betting, the favorites are pre-penalized (-1) or (-2) or (-2 ½) goals and can win, lose, or “push” the outcome based on the final score. This would potentially produce a returned-bet scenario by winning by the same (-1) or (-2) margin that’s been handicapped in the betting market. However, at FanDuel, gamblers are given three options on the spread: Favorite-to-cover, Underdog-to-cover, or Handicap Draw.

     

     

    doesn’t it say can win, lose, or DRAW the spread?

     
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    Posted: Aug. 6, 2022 - 8:31 PM ET #14

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     It’s all your responsibility to know. That’s gambling. Books aren’t going to tell you shitt. So shop lines, understand what the Asian handicaps should be priced at based upon where the ml is set and if you’re getting a good line or a bad line. Or if a line seems too good to be true. 
    when you lose a wager, it’s YOUR fault, no one else’s. That simple. 

    every experienced gambler who bets on soccer would have known that that line wasn’t an Asian handicap. And more importantly, they wouldn’t be complaining about how the book didn’t tell me this or that. Take responsibility for your bets and learn how to do it before you bet. Or stop whining. Either way peace_5

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     It’s all your responsibility to know. That’s gambling. Books aren’t going to tell you shitt. So shop lines, understand what the Asian handicaps should be priced at based upon where the ml is set and if you’re getting a good line or a bad line. Or if a line seems too good to be true. 
    when you lose a wager, it’s YOUR fault, no one else’s. That simple. 

    every experienced gambler who bets on soccer would have known that that line wasn’t an Asian handicap. And more importantly, they wouldn’t be complaining about how the book didn’t tell me this or that. Take responsibility for your bets and learn how to do it before you bet. Or stop whining. Either way peace_5

     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2022 - 12:04 AM ET #15

    Did you not read the rule I posted dummy? Before saying it’s whining, it literally states there are pushes

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    Did you not read the rule I posted dummy? Before saying it’s whining, it literally states there are pushes

     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2022 - 2:30 AM ET #16

    this has happened to me twice also until i finally learned alternate spreads on fanduel are always like this. u have to cover -1 to win. the handicap draw you will win if they win by exactly 1.

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    this has happened to me twice also until i finally learned alternate spreads on fanduel are always like this. u have to cover -1 to win. the handicap draw you will win if they win by exactly 1.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2022 - 4:55 AM ET #17

    @CSpanky

     The rules state you can select Draw as a betting option. . This has nothing to do with pushing the bet. Or drawing with the book lol

    Draw option was the winner like the book told u.

    You take a goal off Chelsea and it  finished 0-0. Draw.

    With handicaps you are used to (asian)there is no 3rd option to select Draw...so if Draw the bet pushes but odds reflect this hence -105 is what u wanted 

     

     

     

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     The rules state you can select Draw as a betting option. . This has nothing to do with pushing the bet. Or drawing with the book lol

    Draw option was the winner like the book told u.

    You take a goal off Chelsea and it  finished 0-0. Draw.

    With handicaps you are used to (asian)there is no 3rd option to select Draw...so if Draw the bet pushes but odds reflect this hence -105 is what u wanted 

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2022 - 5:31 AM ET #18

    Did you really think on the option that a draw was gonna be lower odds then a team with a -1 spread???  I’m not bashing or being smart. But you may want to research how soccer lines work for future reference. 

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    Did you really think on the option that a draw was gonna be lower odds then a team with a -1 spread???  I’m not bashing or being smart. But you may want to research how soccer lines work for future reference. 

     
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    And I get it,  I did bet the game last second and I didn’t shop lines as it was last second. I shouldn’t have called anyone a dummy but a) the rule says multiple things and b) I have bet the -1 before on fanduel over the years and feel like they just changed over to euro rules. Either way lesson learned.

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    And I get it,  I did bet the game last second and I didn’t shop lines as it was last second. I shouldn’t have called anyone a dummy but a) the rule says multiple things and b) I have bet the -1 before on fanduel over the years and feel like they just changed over to euro rules. Either way lesson learned.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 7, 2022 - 12:01 PM ET #22

    I learned that years ago when I started to wager on European football and losing on a -1 line-hopefully you didn't lose too much cash, but common sense would tell you getting a +160 line on a -188/-200 fave would be a -1 Euro or -1.5 Asian...and a -1 would be around even money...as DTP mentioned, do your homework since the books aren't in the business of teaching the rules...good luck in the future!

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    I learned that years ago when I started to wager on European football and losing on a -1 line-hopefully you didn't lose too much cash, but common sense would tell you getting a +160 line on a -188/-200 fave would be a -1 Euro or -1.5 Asian...and a -1 would be around even money...as DTP mentioned, do your homework since the books aren't in the business of teaching the rules...good luck in the future!

     
     
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