All in all, I think this could be a messy match. Ostapenko has the clear talent to beat Bacsinszky and this is surely her breakout year, but it's not going to be easy. If the Latvian is hitting the crazy lines and angles she hit against Wozniacki, she can run away with this, but it's likely going to take a while for her to get there. Bacsinszky is Wozniacki 2.0, which is to say that she is a consistent grinder who will make her opponent play a lot of extra balls, but has a little more skill with the drop shot and slice. Wozniacki was in full blown defense mode the entire match and I expect Bacsinszky to be a bit more tactical here and smart enough to play to Ostapenko's weaknesses, which are the unforced errors.
Speaking of unforced errors, I think Ostapenko will hit a lot of them still. She's all of 20 years old and plays at one speed all the time and that's just something you live with with her game. Bacsinszky has the veteran experience to maintain her composure and I think she will take a set, but that Ostapenko's power game will prevail in the end.
Halep -1.5 sets -123 1u
All the Halep lines are extremely juicy and that's probably because they're the right side. No complicated analysis here. Halep is really good on clay and Pliskova is not. That's all you need to know. Pliskova has amazingly gotten here with her serve, her forehand, and the fact that she has drawn opponents mentally weaker than herself. Halep looks locked into this set - evidenced by coming through her battle with Svitolina, which was her first true test of the tournament - and she's not going to be intimidated by Pliskova on clay. Halep will attack Pliskova's second serve and outside of the service game, she does literally everything on clay better than the Czech.
As far as the men's matches go, I would probably lean Murray and Nadal to make it to the final, but I think Thiem will keep it close and probably sneak away with a set.
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Just two matches today. BOL!
Ostapenko ML +118 1u
Ostapenko-Bacsinszky over 22 games +100 1u
Ostapenko wins 2-1 +425 0.5u
All in all, I think this could be a messy match. Ostapenko has the clear talent to beat Bacsinszky and this is surely her breakout year, but it's not going to be easy. If the Latvian is hitting the crazy lines and angles she hit against Wozniacki, she can run away with this, but it's likely going to take a while for her to get there. Bacsinszky is Wozniacki 2.0, which is to say that she is a consistent grinder who will make her opponent play a lot of extra balls, but has a little more skill with the drop shot and slice. Wozniacki was in full blown defense mode the entire match and I expect Bacsinszky to be a bit more tactical here and smart enough to play to Ostapenko's weaknesses, which are the unforced errors.
Speaking of unforced errors, I think Ostapenko will hit a lot of them still. She's all of 20 years old and plays at one speed all the time and that's just something you live with with her game. Bacsinszky has the veteran experience to maintain her composure and I think she will take a set, but that Ostapenko's power game will prevail in the end.
Halep -1.5 sets -123 1u
All the Halep lines are extremely juicy and that's probably because they're the right side. No complicated analysis here. Halep is really good on clay and Pliskova is not. That's all you need to know. Pliskova has amazingly gotten here with her serve, her forehand, and the fact that she has drawn opponents mentally weaker than herself. Halep looks locked into this set - evidenced by coming through her battle with Svitolina, which was her first true test of the tournament - and she's not going to be intimidated by Pliskova on clay. Halep will attack Pliskova's second serve and outside of the service game, she does literally everything on clay better than the Czech.
As far as the men's matches go, I would probably lean Murray and Nadal to make it to the final, but I think Thiem will keep it close and probably sneak away with a set.
Won big money on Ostapenko...may have to rethink my Pliskova sucks on clay angle if she somehow pulls this one out. Looks like the old Halep nerves might be resurfacing...
For the record, if Halep wins, I like her to win the FO and if Pliskova wins, I like Ostapenko. Regardless of who wins, I think we see a three setter.
BOL on the rest of your betting day...moving onto baseball for the rest of the day.
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Ostapenko +118 ML
Ostapenko-Bacsinszky over 22 games
Ostapenko wins 2-1 at +425
Halep -1.5 sets
Won big money on Ostapenko...may have to rethink my Pliskova sucks on clay angle if she somehow pulls this one out. Looks like the old Halep nerves might be resurfacing...
For the record, if Halep wins, I like her to win the FO and if Pliskova wins, I like Ostapenko. Regardless of who wins, I think we see a three setter.
BOL on the rest of your betting day...moving onto baseball for the rest of the day.
You mentioned you like Halep in the final in the current scenario with Ostapenko. I respectfully disagree. I see a lot of value in Ostapenko she brings a hell of a punch (she stikes harder than Murray) and this big stage doesn't appear to phase her. Please tell me why I'm crazy to have put a considerable amount on Ostapenko. I see a LOT of value.
Quote Originally Posted by thatyoungmitch:
Ostapenko +118 ML
Ostapenko-Bacsinszky over 22 games
Ostapenko wins 2-1 at +425
Halep -1.5 sets
Won big money on Ostapenko...may have to rethink my Pliskova sucks on clay angle if she somehow pulls this one out. Looks like the old Halep nerves might be resurfacing...
For the record, if Halep wins, I like her to win the FO and if Pliskova wins, I like Ostapenko. Regardless of who wins, I think we see a three setter.
BOL on the rest of your betting day...moving onto baseball for the rest of the day.
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Well done today!
You mentioned you like Halep in the final in the current scenario with Ostapenko. I respectfully disagree. I see a lot of value in Ostapenko she brings a hell of a punch (she stikes harder than Murray) and this big stage doesn't appear to phase her. Please tell me why I'm crazy to have put a considerable amount on Ostapenko. I see a LOT of value.
Quote Originally Posted by thatyoungmitch:
Ostapenko +118 ML
Ostapenko-Bacsinszky over 22 games
Ostapenko wins 2-1 at +425
Halep -1.5 sets
Won big money on Ostapenko...may have to rethink my Pliskova sucks on clay angle if she somehow pulls this one out. Looks like the old Halep nerves might be resurfacing...
For the record, if Halep wins, I like her to win the FO and if Pliskova wins, I like Ostapenko. Regardless of who wins, I think we see a three setter.
BOL on the rest of your betting day...moving onto baseball for the rest of the day.
Won big money on Ostapenko...may have to rethink my Pliskova sucks on clay angle if she somehow pulls this one out. Looks like the old Halep nerves might be resurfacing...
For the record, if Halep wins, I like her to win the FO and if Pliskova wins, I like Ostapenko. Regardless of who wins, I think we see a three setter.
BOL on the rest of your betting day...moving onto baseball for the rest of the day.
Well done today!
You mentioned you like Halep in the final in the current scenario with Ostapenko. I respectfully disagree. I see a lot of value in Ostapenko she brings a hell of a punch (she stikes harder than Murray) and this big stage doesn't appear to phase her. Please tell me why I'm crazy to have put a considerable amount on Ostapenko. I see a LOT of value.
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Quote Originally Posted by thatyoungmitch:
Ostapenko +118 ML
Ostapenko-Bacsinszky over 22 games
Ostapenko wins 2-1 at +425
Halep -1.5 sets
Won big money on Ostapenko...may have to rethink my Pliskova sucks on clay angle if she somehow pulls this one out. Looks like the old Halep nerves might be resurfacing...
For the record, if Halep wins, I like her to win the FO and if Pliskova wins, I like Ostapenko. Regardless of who wins, I think we see a three setter.
BOL on the rest of your betting day...moving onto baseball for the rest of the day.
Well done today!
You mentioned you like Halep in the final in the current scenario with Ostapenko. I respectfully disagree. I see a lot of value in Ostapenko she brings a hell of a punch (she stikes harder than Murray) and this big stage doesn't appear to phase her. Please tell me why I'm crazy to have put a considerable amount on Ostapenko. I see a LOT of value.
You mentioned you like Halep in the final in the current scenario with Ostapenko. I respectfully disagree. I see a lot of value in Ostapenko she brings a hell of a punch (she stikes harder than Murray) and this big stage doesn't appear to phase her. Please tell me why I'm crazy to have put a considerable amount on Ostapenko. I see a LOT of value.
I don't think you're crazy at all. There is a lot of value. That was my initial lean, because I do think that she's been here before and she's really in this to win it.
That said, Ostapenko presents huge value on a lot of angles. I like the +1.5 set line, the +4.5 spread, the over at 21.5 games - all available at very good odds.
I think those are probably safer bets as Ostapenko will probably get a set with her aggressive style of play and Halep is still showing mental lapses in the later rounds. I mean, Karolina Pliskova of all people took a set off her today.
If you sprinkle a bit on the moneyline at +280 odds that seems reasonable. I probably will be on that as well, but I wouldn't bet the bank. I've always felt this was Halep's tournament to lose and I still feel that way.
One thing to look at before you place your wagers is Ostapenko's unforced errors. She hit a lot of them again today. Now, granted, she backed up her 45 unforced errors with 50 winners, but the type of defensive player that Halep is, one of the quickest players on clay, she'll make you play a lot of extra balls. And the more extra balls Ostapenko plays with the pressure on her, the more errors she will hit.
That said, that's not to say she isn't unbeatable and I will probably be personally rooting for Ostapenko as it's a feelgood underdog story for sure.
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Quote Originally Posted by The_Closer:
Well done today!
You mentioned you like Halep in the final in the current scenario with Ostapenko. I respectfully disagree. I see a lot of value in Ostapenko she brings a hell of a punch (she stikes harder than Murray) and this big stage doesn't appear to phase her. Please tell me why I'm crazy to have put a considerable amount on Ostapenko. I see a LOT of value.
I don't think you're crazy at all. There is a lot of value. That was my initial lean, because I do think that she's been here before and she's really in this to win it.
That said, Ostapenko presents huge value on a lot of angles. I like the +1.5 set line, the +4.5 spread, the over at 21.5 games - all available at very good odds.
I think those are probably safer bets as Ostapenko will probably get a set with her aggressive style of play and Halep is still showing mental lapses in the later rounds. I mean, Karolina Pliskova of all people took a set off her today.
If you sprinkle a bit on the moneyline at +280 odds that seems reasonable. I probably will be on that as well, but I wouldn't bet the bank. I've always felt this was Halep's tournament to lose and I still feel that way.
One thing to look at before you place your wagers is Ostapenko's unforced errors. She hit a lot of them again today. Now, granted, she backed up her 45 unforced errors with 50 winners, but the type of defensive player that Halep is, one of the quickest players on clay, she'll make you play a lot of extra balls. And the more extra balls Ostapenko plays with the pressure on her, the more errors she will hit.
That said, that's not to say she isn't unbeatable and I will probably be personally rooting for Ostapenko as it's a feelgood underdog story for sure.
I don't think you're crazy at all. There is a lot of value. That was my initial lean, because I do think that she's been here before and she's really in this to win it.
That said, Ostapenko presents huge value on a lot of angles. I like the +1.5 set line, the +4.5 spread, the over at 21.5 games - all available at very good odds.
I think those are probably safer bets as Ostapenko will probably get a set with her aggressive style of play and Halep is still showing mental lapses in the later rounds. I mean, Karolina Pliskova of all people took a set off her today.
If you sprinkle a bit on the moneyline at +280 odds that seems reasonable. I probably will be on that as well, but I wouldn't bet the bank. I've always felt this was Halep's tournament to lose and I still feel that way.
One thing to look at before you place your wagers is Ostapenko's unforced errors. She hit a lot of them again today. Now, granted, she backed up her 45 unforced errors with 50 winners, but the type of defensive player that Halep is, one of the quickest players on clay, she'll make you play a lot of extra balls. And the more extra balls Ostapenko plays with the pressure on her, the more errors she will hit.
That said, that's not to say she isn't unbeatable and I will probably be personally rooting for Ostapenko as it's a feelgood underdog story for sure.
Great point on the Ostapenko unforced errors! I still feel eventhough she gets them she will be relentless and over power Halep convincingly. Halep's legs wont be able to catch up to Ostapenko's cannon that are within the court.
Good luck and thanks for all your insight in the french!
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Quote Originally Posted by thatyoungmitch:
I don't think you're crazy at all. There is a lot of value. That was my initial lean, because I do think that she's been here before and she's really in this to win it.
That said, Ostapenko presents huge value on a lot of angles. I like the +1.5 set line, the +4.5 spread, the over at 21.5 games - all available at very good odds.
I think those are probably safer bets as Ostapenko will probably get a set with her aggressive style of play and Halep is still showing mental lapses in the later rounds. I mean, Karolina Pliskova of all people took a set off her today.
If you sprinkle a bit on the moneyline at +280 odds that seems reasonable. I probably will be on that as well, but I wouldn't bet the bank. I've always felt this was Halep's tournament to lose and I still feel that way.
One thing to look at before you place your wagers is Ostapenko's unforced errors. She hit a lot of them again today. Now, granted, she backed up her 45 unforced errors with 50 winners, but the type of defensive player that Halep is, one of the quickest players on clay, she'll make you play a lot of extra balls. And the more extra balls Ostapenko plays with the pressure on her, the more errors she will hit.
That said, that's not to say she isn't unbeatable and I will probably be personally rooting for Ostapenko as it's a feelgood underdog story for sure.
Great point on the Ostapenko unforced errors! I still feel eventhough she gets them she will be relentless and over power Halep convincingly. Halep's legs wont be able to catch up to Ostapenko's cannon that are within the court.
Good luck and thanks for all your insight in the french!
Well done today! You mentioned you like Halep in the final in the current scenario with Ostapenko. I respectfully disagree. I see a lot of value in Ostapenko she brings a hell of a punch (she stikes harder than Murray) and this big stage doesn't appear to phase her. Please tell me why I'm crazy to have put a considerable amount on Ostapenko. I see a LOT of value.
I don't think you're crazy at all. There is a lot of value. That was my initial lean, because I do think that she's been here before and she's really in this to win it.That said, Ostapenko presents huge value on a lot of angles. I like the +1.5 set line, the +4.5 spread, the over at 21.5 games - all available at very good odds.I think those are probably safer bets as Ostapenko will probably get a set with her aggressive style of play and Halep is still showing mental lapses in the later rounds. I mean, Karolina Pliskova of all people took a set off her today.If you sprinkle a bit on the moneyline at +280 odds that seems reasonable. I probably will be on that as well, but I wouldn't bet the bank. I've always felt this was Halep's tournament to lose and I still feel that way.One thing to look at before you place your wagers is Ostapenko's unforced errors. She hit a lot of them again today. Now, granted, she backed up her 45 unforced errors with 50 winners, but the type of defensive player that Halep is, one of the quickest players on clay, she'll make you play a lot of extra balls. And the more extra balls Ostapenko plays with the pressure on her, the more errors she will hit.That said, that's not to say she isn't unbeatable and I will probably be personally rooting for Ostapenko as it's a feelgood underdog story for sure.
Mate after reviewing your insight so far in the last week I'll sure be heading your advice.. and I have similar thoughts to you however your angles are way more details.. much respect... I personally believe halep get this she's to fast around the court and can hit the ball hard as well which will trouble osta and her unforced errors... I think also that halep is to clay savy to lose this.. I won't be halep cause I want osta to win but I can also easily see a 6-2 6-3 win to halep... she's just gonna be too smart for osta.... GO OSTA though I love a feel good story.. hope she wins - so fun to watch...
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Quote Originally Posted by thatyoungmitch:
Quote Originally Posted by The_Closer:
Well done today! You mentioned you like Halep in the final in the current scenario with Ostapenko. I respectfully disagree. I see a lot of value in Ostapenko she brings a hell of a punch (she stikes harder than Murray) and this big stage doesn't appear to phase her. Please tell me why I'm crazy to have put a considerable amount on Ostapenko. I see a LOT of value.
I don't think you're crazy at all. There is a lot of value. That was my initial lean, because I do think that she's been here before and she's really in this to win it.That said, Ostapenko presents huge value on a lot of angles. I like the +1.5 set line, the +4.5 spread, the over at 21.5 games - all available at very good odds.I think those are probably safer bets as Ostapenko will probably get a set with her aggressive style of play and Halep is still showing mental lapses in the later rounds. I mean, Karolina Pliskova of all people took a set off her today.If you sprinkle a bit on the moneyline at +280 odds that seems reasonable. I probably will be on that as well, but I wouldn't bet the bank. I've always felt this was Halep's tournament to lose and I still feel that way.One thing to look at before you place your wagers is Ostapenko's unforced errors. She hit a lot of them again today. Now, granted, she backed up her 45 unforced errors with 50 winners, but the type of defensive player that Halep is, one of the quickest players on clay, she'll make you play a lot of extra balls. And the more extra balls Ostapenko plays with the pressure on her, the more errors she will hit.That said, that's not to say she isn't unbeatable and I will probably be personally rooting for Ostapenko as it's a feelgood underdog story for sure.
Mate after reviewing your insight so far in the last week I'll sure be heading your advice.. and I have similar thoughts to you however your angles are way more details.. much respect... I personally believe halep get this she's to fast around the court and can hit the ball hard as well which will trouble osta and her unforced errors... I think also that halep is to clay savy to lose this.. I won't be halep cause I want osta to win but I can also easily see a 6-2 6-3 win to halep... she's just gonna be too smart for osta.... GO OSTA though I love a feel good story.. hope she wins - so fun to watch...
I was on osta the last two games but u gotta know when to not give it back... sprinkle for fun is good advice !!! But don't expect the win... osta has won me 2 good days in a row so I'll have a sprinkle out of respect for her..
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I was on osta the last two games but u gotta know when to not give it back... sprinkle for fun is good advice !!! But don't expect the win... osta has won me 2 good days in a row so I'll have a sprinkle out of respect for her..
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