Benjamin Becker - Good on HC, up against claycourter who comes directly from clay
Paul Henri Mathiu, again seems to have turned it around a bit lately, and Zverev is not having much succes on the hardcourts as of late.
Ivan Ljubicic - Played well and qualified here with two wins over Levine and Ram. H2H 2-0 and Serra not doing to well on HC this year.
Lukaz Kubot (as a live dog) Curious to see the odds here. Done well in qualification by beating up on Gabasvili and Benneteau. Acasuso can play on HC but havent done it much. Comes directly from clay.
Juan Carlos Ferrero - The Mosquito is in form, played well last week. Cilic not playing well, one of the best bets of the day in my honest opinion.
Vinci - Have been solid the last few weeks. Quallified here with 2-0 wins over Voskoboeva and Hradecka. Opponent is local woman Dubois from Canada. She is 19-5 on HC this year however that is mostly wins against second tier players. Last week she won a challenger in Vancouver. Might be a tough battle, but i would imagine a decent odds here.
Mauresmo (a maybe) Dont know about Momo. Should win against Schiavone but havent played since Wimbledon. Might wager it if the early bets falls my way.
Bammer - Looked awesome last week. Have been on a huge uptrend over the summer. Chakvetadze not doing so well as she used to. Bammer is in my opinion one of the better bets today.
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On to another week of tennis. For monday i like
Benjamin Becker - Good on HC, up against claycourter who comes directly from clay
Paul Henri Mathiu, again seems to have turned it around a bit lately, and Zverev is not having much succes on the hardcourts as of late.
Ivan Ljubicic - Played well and qualified here with two wins over Levine and Ram. H2H 2-0 and Serra not doing to well on HC this year.
Lukaz Kubot (as a live dog) Curious to see the odds here. Done well in qualification by beating up on Gabasvili and Benneteau. Acasuso can play on HC but havent done it much. Comes directly from clay.
Juan Carlos Ferrero - The Mosquito is in form, played well last week. Cilic not playing well, one of the best bets of the day in my honest opinion.
Vinci - Have been solid the last few weeks. Quallified here with 2-0 wins over Voskoboeva and Hradecka. Opponent is local woman Dubois from Canada. She is 19-5 on HC this year however that is mostly wins against second tier players. Last week she won a challenger in Vancouver. Might be a tough battle, but i would imagine a decent odds here.
Mauresmo (a maybe) Dont know about Momo. Should win against Schiavone but havent played since Wimbledon. Might wager it if the early bets falls my way.
Bammer - Looked awesome last week. Have been on a huge uptrend over the summer. Chakvetadze not doing so well as she used to. Bammer is in my opinion one of the better bets today.
where are you seeing the monday lines already? they're not up on bodog, actually the matches aren't even posted on for monday they are posted for tuesday, but the lines are not up...
lemme know,
cheers,
sam
Andrew Samitz
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where are you seeing the monday lines already? they're not up on bodog, actually the matches aren't even posted on for monday they are posted for tuesday, but the lines are not up...
where are you seeing the monday lines already? they're not up on bodog, actually the matches aren't even posted on for monday they are posted for tuesday, but the lines are not up...
lemme know,
cheers,
sam
Bet365 had some of the lines up, other than that i checked the "order of play" on the tournament site of Toronto and Cinci.
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Quote Originally Posted by Samitz8:
where are you seeing the monday lines already? they're not up on bodog, actually the matches aren't even posted on for monday they are posted for tuesday, but the lines are not up...
lemme know,
cheers,
sam
Bet365 had some of the lines up, other than that i checked the "order of play" on the tournament site of Toronto and Cinci.
"Vinci - Have been solid the last few weeks. Quallified here with
2-0 wins over Voskoboeva and Hradecka. Opponent is local woman Dubois
from Canada. She is 19-5 on HC this year however that is mostly wins
against second tier players. Last week she won a challenger in
Vancouver. Might be a tough battle, but i would imagine a decent odds
here."
i am sorry but how was Vinci solid? She lost as a -300 favorite in straight sets to De Los Rios in Slovenia and she threw the match against Safina even though she tried to handle it to the Italian a few times. She is 4-2 in this Hard Court swing but 2 of the 4 wins came with players outside of the Top 100. 4th time she is at this event and she never made it after the first round.
Dubois is more than capable, last year beat Govortosova and Kirilenko at this event. She is at home and she beat Sania Mirza last week in the Vancouver Final.
Do not lay -200 on Vinci. Bet Dubois at this ridiculous price-
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"Vinci - Have been solid the last few weeks. Quallified here with
2-0 wins over Voskoboeva and Hradecka. Opponent is local woman Dubois
from Canada. She is 19-5 on HC this year however that is mostly wins
against second tier players. Last week she won a challenger in
Vancouver. Might be a tough battle, but i would imagine a decent odds
here."
i am sorry but how was Vinci solid? She lost as a -300 favorite in straight sets to De Los Rios in Slovenia and she threw the match against Safina even though she tried to handle it to the Italian a few times. She is 4-2 in this Hard Court swing but 2 of the 4 wins came with players outside of the Top 100. 4th time she is at this event and she never made it after the first round.
Dubois is more than capable, last year beat Govortosova and Kirilenko at this event. She is at home and she beat Sania Mirza last week in the Vancouver Final.
Do not lay -200 on Vinci. Bet Dubois at this ridiculous price-
Well, what I brought you are facts and not opinions with which you could agree or disagree IMO.
That being said, if you think that Vinci is value just think that at -204 (odds at Pinnacle now) you need to win 69% of the matches just to break even.
If you think that if these 2 played the match 100 times and you think Vinci would win 70 times (which is what you need to win 1 unit in a 100 matches scenario at -204) you are right in betting Vinci.
If you are playing Vinci just because you think that she is the better player and because you think she is going to win, well that's where you get burned in the long run. You need to pick the player who you think will outperform the odds rather than the one you think is going to win in order to win at Tennis betting. Especially with WTA :D
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Quote Originally Posted by Mikael99:
We disagree here then.
Well, what I brought you are facts and not opinions with which you could agree or disagree IMO.
That being said, if you think that Vinci is value just think that at -204 (odds at Pinnacle now) you need to win 69% of the matches just to break even.
If you think that if these 2 played the match 100 times and you think Vinci would win 70 times (which is what you need to win 1 unit in a 100 matches scenario at -204) you are right in betting Vinci.
If you are playing Vinci just because you think that she is the better player and because you think she is going to win, well that's where you get burned in the long run. You need to pick the player who you think will outperform the odds rather than the one you think is going to win in order to win at Tennis betting. Especially with WTA :D
God you and your 422 posts are an idiot. She didnt just lose, she lost 1-2. I noticed you post about who is the best capper, and your trash others pics.. even when you are then proven wrong you act as a moron.
GL with that..
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Quote Originally Posted by TennisCapper:
Sometimes a bad play wins also
God you and your 422 posts are an idiot. She didnt just lose, she lost 1-2. I noticed you post about who is the best capper, and your trash others pics.. even when you are then proven wrong you act as a moron.
You are a douchebag. Unlike most posters I specifically said why I liked Dubois trying to offer an analysis of the match and giving an example with the odds involved as well. How many times do you see this on the Tennis Forum? Exactly, none. But yet I am the moron? mmm interesting approach.
You are just a clown that doesn't know what is doing. It is easy to say that Vinci was a good play after the match is over but all I said was that according to me this play it is a long run loser and to prove my point I am telling you that under the same circumstances I would play Dubois again. We clearly have a different approach in betting as I try to find the value in the underdog and you like to lay -200 on a match between 2 box.
Wow, you have 20000 posts, sorry your honor for contradicting your word. It won't happen again.
get a life.
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You are a douchebag. Unlike most posters I specifically said why I liked Dubois trying to offer an analysis of the match and giving an example with the odds involved as well. How many times do you see this on the Tennis Forum? Exactly, none. But yet I am the moron? mmm interesting approach.
You are just a clown that doesn't know what is doing. It is easy to say that Vinci was a good play after the match is over but all I said was that according to me this play it is a long run loser and to prove my point I am telling you that under the same circumstances I would play Dubois again. We clearly have a different approach in betting as I try to find the value in the underdog and you like to lay -200 on a match between 2 box.
Wow, you have 20000 posts, sorry your honor for contradicting your word. It won't happen again.
I dont even want to comment on that. I think your words stand for themselves. My guess is that you will be booted into the pbox soon enough if you keep it up.
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I dont even want to comment on that. I think your words stand for themselves. My guess is that you will be booted into the pbox soon enough if you keep it up.
You don't want to comment because you don't know how to answer. You called me a moron and an idiot for the same reason, because I said that Vinci was a bad play and sometimes bad plays win as well and you didn't know how to respond. As easy as that.
Dubois won 7% of the points behind 2nd ball, do you really think that will happen again if they play once more? If Vinci had a day off like Dubois had she was going to lose and we would have been here talking about this match in another way. The thing is that you clearly are not objective enough to say that this match won because of a day off of Dubois.
moreover you were the one who said "Might be a tough battle" so correct me if I am wrong but you were giving some sort of life to her as well, so exactly what are we talking about?
You started calling me a moron and an idiot but yet I should be the one who should be boxed only for answering at that, mmm interesting again.
And about the other thread, I gave 4 names of guys who do know what they are talking about as I did have some good constructive discussions with them in the past, so I don't know exactly what the matter is.
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You don't want to comment because you don't know how to answer. You called me a moron and an idiot for the same reason, because I said that Vinci was a bad play and sometimes bad plays win as well and you didn't know how to respond. As easy as that.
Dubois won 7% of the points behind 2nd ball, do you really think that will happen again if they play once more? If Vinci had a day off like Dubois had she was going to lose and we would have been here talking about this match in another way. The thing is that you clearly are not objective enough to say that this match won because of a day off of Dubois.
moreover you were the one who said "Might be a tough battle" so correct me if I am wrong but you were giving some sort of life to her as well, so exactly what are we talking about?
You started calling me a moron and an idiot but yet I should be the one who should be boxed only for answering at that, mmm interesting again.
And about the other thread, I gave 4 names of guys who do know what they are talking about as I did have some good constructive discussions with them in the past, so I don't know exactly what the matter is.
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