He went on a cold streak, blamed his family and then proceeded to make a 5.5k bomb on a team he irrationally tried to convince himself could play defense against the best ATS team in the league. Now he's down around 3.6k ish and on the chase. He's actually got 8.5% or more of his life savings now.
Oh I know all about the family blame and the 5.5k bomb.
I'm behind on the last day and a half or so and last time I checked, his "life savings bankroll" was around 20g isn't it? And a "k play" seems to be the normal play right now.
Yikes, just yikes.
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Quote Originally Posted by Laroja:
He went on a cold streak, blamed his family and then proceeded to make a 5.5k bomb on a team he irrationally tried to convince himself could play defense against the best ATS team in the league. Now he's down around 3.6k ish and on the chase. He's actually got 8.5% or more of his life savings now.
Oh I know all about the family blame and the 5.5k bomb.
I'm behind on the last day and a half or so and last time I checked, his "life savings bankroll" was around 20g isn't it? And a "k play" seems to be the normal play right now.
I have no problem with Scalabrine but he sure seems like a hypocrite and it would be good if he could address that
Don't really like him, that is well known....
2 things I will give him.... 1) He puts his work in 2) I admire his conviction.... when he makes a play he sure as hell believes in it.
But other than that, don't like his attitude, don't like how he thinks everyone else is stupid when they question his play or an angle.... I won't even bring up Indiana/Ohio State when he said that the upcoming Michigan game was not a factor for OSU.... Oops, guess I did bring it up.
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Quote Originally Posted by jkjc:
Thats some great detective work BWS
I have no problem with Scalabrine but he sure seems like a hypocrite and it would be good if he could address that
Don't really like him, that is well known....
2 things I will give him.... 1) He puts his work in 2) I admire his conviction.... when he makes a play he sure as hell believes in it.
But other than that, don't like his attitude, don't like how he thinks everyone else is stupid when they question his play or an angle.... I won't even bring up Indiana/Ohio State when he said that the upcoming Michigan game was not a factor for OSU.... Oops, guess I did bring it up.
What is the biggest tell that someone is an action junkie? What can tell you if someone actually has a method and is just not throwing darts?
The fact that CG picks 1-4 plays every day.
That in a nutshell is the problem. Every day there are picks. Why? If there was some way to determine real strength of "picks", there might be 5 today and none tomorrow. There might be a week where you only pick 5 games.
But you bet games every day, and limit plays every day to 4 at the most (most days 3). I have said it before way back in this thread - and it bears repeating - losers bet for days. People who bet for action bet for days. There is no way around this.
When you have to wake up and decide on 1-3 plays for that day, there is no way to maximize your overall profitability. This is all without a staking plan - which only compounds the problem. When you add no real staking method - and introduce totally random bet sizes - todays 3 plays that are 1k each might not even qualify tomorrow when you are betting 3 games that are 500 each.
Sorry, but CGs betting is more lemonade stand than empire. At least the kids selling lemonade probably understand their costs and set the price accordingly. CG sells lemonade for varying prices based on his mood and only 1-3 cups per day and then wonders why the kids next to him are outselling him when his lemonade tastes better.
Perfectly stated.
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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
What is the biggest tell that someone is an action junkie? What can tell you if someone actually has a method and is just not throwing darts?
The fact that CG picks 1-4 plays every day.
That in a nutshell is the problem. Every day there are picks. Why? If there was some way to determine real strength of "picks", there might be 5 today and none tomorrow. There might be a week where you only pick 5 games.
But you bet games every day, and limit plays every day to 4 at the most (most days 3). I have said it before way back in this thread - and it bears repeating - losers bet for days. People who bet for action bet for days. There is no way around this.
When you have to wake up and decide on 1-3 plays for that day, there is no way to maximize your overall profitability. This is all without a staking plan - which only compounds the problem. When you add no real staking method - and introduce totally random bet sizes - todays 3 plays that are 1k each might not even qualify tomorrow when you are betting 3 games that are 500 each.
Sorry, but CGs betting is more lemonade stand than empire. At least the kids selling lemonade probably understand their costs and set the price accordingly. CG sells lemonade for varying prices based on his mood and only 1-3 cups per day and then wonders why the kids next to him are outselling him when his lemonade tastes better.
I have no problem with Scalabrine but he sure seems like a hypocrite and it would be good if he could address that
It sure is and unfortunately, it disproves his OWN argument about me risking the rest of my roll (ya know, the whole point of his posting), on that game.
It wasn't about chase plays. It was about my roll.
And by the way. I've followed the Lakers for the majority of my life and a bit more about them and how they will respond than CG knows, the Kings/KState/Spurs etc. etc. etc.
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Quote Originally Posted by jkjc:
Thats some great detective work BWS
I have no problem with Scalabrine but he sure seems like a hypocrite and it would be good if he could address that
It sure is and unfortunately, it disproves his OWN argument about me risking the rest of my roll (ya know, the whole point of his posting), on that game.
It wasn't about chase plays. It was about my roll.
And by the way. I've followed the Lakers for the majority of my life and a bit more about them and how they will respond than CG knows, the Kings/KState/Spurs etc. etc. etc.
Oh I know all about the family blame and the 5.5k bomb.
I'm behind on the last day and a half or so and last time I checked, his "life savings bankroll" was around 20g isn't it? And a "k play" seems to be the normal play right now.
Yikes, just yikes.
In a nutshell, he said he wanted to take his "shot" with a 5K play and was going to go back to his $500 plays. Then he proceeded with dime plays...had 2 for today......said he might play a 3rd (which he did) and then just added V. Tech for his 4th play today and said he was in the mood to chase.
No crime on his part at all. I still want him to win. But the snowball is kind of rolling downhill. I don't think he's been honest with himself in about a week. But he does seem to be having a good time living the life.
Not trying to be an a$$, but those are the facts. Most of the time, I have to pay to be this entertained!! I'll just continue to cheer him on.
Go Hokies!
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Quote Originally Posted by rangerz2478:
Oh I know all about the family blame and the 5.5k bomb.
I'm behind on the last day and a half or so and last time I checked, his "life savings bankroll" was around 20g isn't it? And a "k play" seems to be the normal play right now.
Yikes, just yikes.
In a nutshell, he said he wanted to take his "shot" with a 5K play and was going to go back to his $500 plays. Then he proceeded with dime plays...had 2 for today......said he might play a 3rd (which he did) and then just added V. Tech for his 4th play today and said he was in the mood to chase.
No crime on his part at all. I still want him to win. But the snowball is kind of rolling downhill. I don't think he's been honest with himself in about a week. But he does seem to be having a good time living the life.
Not trying to be an a$$, but those are the facts. Most of the time, I have to pay to be this entertained!! I'll just continue to cheer him on.
I have about 20 pages to catch up on but if someone can fill me in that'd be great...(doesn't have to be CG)
Why is he betting 5% of his LIFE SAVINGS ROLL on every game?
When most people say a percentage of their roll, its a percentage of their gambling roll. 5% of everything to his name on each play is absolutely absurd.
In effect, this is his life savings.
What else does he had that has liquidity. When he runs out of this money, he has no more and will get a job.
That effectively serves as your life savings.
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Quote Originally Posted by rangerz2478:
I have about 20 pages to catch up on but if someone can fill me in that'd be great...(doesn't have to be CG)
Why is he betting 5% of his LIFE SAVINGS ROLL on every game?
When most people say a percentage of their roll, its a percentage of their gambling roll. 5% of everything to his name on each play is absolutely absurd.
In effect, this is his life savings.
What else does he had that has liquidity. When he runs out of this money, he has no more and will get a job.
Great post Van. You probably will win your bet before mid april. I have been saying it thru this whole thread, that he has zero discipline and no money management what so ever. Hes losing money and hitting over 55 percent, whats he gonna do when he hits under 55 percent. Hate to say it but only way he stays living out there long term is if he finally gets a job to pay the bills
Agree. I called it in post #20 of this forum 2 months ago. Absolutely no money management or discipline-which was obvious in his comments in this forum prior to moving to Vegas. If he would simply bet a fixed % of his total bankroll on each & every bet-hitting 55% would make him good money-LONG TERM. He doesn't realize it's a marathon-not a sprint. He's not treating it as business-he's an action junkie & now he's chasing. His current scenario was predictable 2 months ago.
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Quote Originally Posted by cd329:
Great post Van. You probably will win your bet before mid april. I have been saying it thru this whole thread, that he has zero discipline and no money management what so ever. Hes losing money and hitting over 55 percent, whats he gonna do when he hits under 55 percent. Hate to say it but only way he stays living out there long term is if he finally gets a job to pay the bills
Agree. I called it in post #20 of this forum 2 months ago. Absolutely no money management or discipline-which was obvious in his comments in this forum prior to moving to Vegas. If he would simply bet a fixed % of his total bankroll on each & every bet-hitting 55% would make him good money-LONG TERM. He doesn't realize it's a marathon-not a sprint. He's not treating it as business-he's an action junkie & now he's chasing. His current scenario was predictable 2 months ago.
In a nutshell, he said he wanted to take his "shot" with a 5K play and was going to go back to his $500 plays. Then he proceeded with dime plays...had 2 for today......said he might play a 3rd (which he did) and then just added V. Tech for his 4th play today and said he was in the mood to chase.
No crime on his part at all. I still want him to win. But the snowball is kind of rolling downhill. I don't think he's been honest with himself in about a week. But he does seem to be having a good time living the life.
Not trying to be an a$$, but those are the facts. Most of the time, I have to pay to be this entertained!! I'll just continue to cheer him on.
Go Hokies!
But Hutch, its shame to see that bankroll which probably took him a few years to save up all vanishing quickly because of having a good time living life. He should have just took a vacation out to vegas and had fun, instead of now trying to gamble away his life savings. Hes the kind of gambler that should never live in vegas Am sure 1000 spins on the money wheel will be coming soon
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Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:
In a nutshell, he said he wanted to take his "shot" with a 5K play and was going to go back to his $500 plays. Then he proceeded with dime plays...had 2 for today......said he might play a 3rd (which he did) and then just added V. Tech for his 4th play today and said he was in the mood to chase.
No crime on his part at all. I still want him to win. But the snowball is kind of rolling downhill. I don't think he's been honest with himself in about a week. But he does seem to be having a good time living the life.
Not trying to be an a$$, but those are the facts. Most of the time, I have to pay to be this entertained!! I'll just continue to cheer him on.
Go Hokies!
But Hutch, its shame to see that bankroll which probably took him a few years to save up all vanishing quickly because of having a good time living life. He should have just took a vacation out to vegas and had fun, instead of now trying to gamble away his life savings. Hes the kind of gambler that should never live in vegas Am sure 1000 spins on the money wheel will be coming soon
He went on a cold streak, blamed his family and then proceeded to make a 5.5k bomb on a team he irrationally tried to convince himself could play defense against the best ATS team in the league. Now he's down around 3.6k ish and on the chase. He's actually got 8.5% or more of his life savings now.
Yeah, that "best ATS team in the league" is down 22 points midway through the 3rd quarter to the Denver Nuggets.
PM for the skinny on the down low
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Quote Originally Posted by Laroja:
He went on a cold streak, blamed his family and then proceeded to make a 5.5k bomb on a team he irrationally tried to convince himself could play defense against the best ATS team in the league. Now he's down around 3.6k ish and on the chase. He's actually got 8.5% or more of his life savings now.
Yeah, that "best ATS team in the league" is down 22 points midway through the 3rd quarter to the Denver Nuggets.
It sure is and unfortunately, it disproves his OWN argument about me risking the rest of my roll (ya know, the whole point of his posting), on that game.
It wasn't about chase plays. It was about my roll.
And by the way. I've followed the Lakers for the majority of my life and a bit more about them and how they will respond than CG knows, the Kings/KState/Spurs etc. etc. etc.
I actually agree with a lot of what you have to say, I just think your hostility to CG is a bit unwarranted. Whats your goal? To get him to quit go home and stop making videos? I think everyone loses if that happens. Theres more than one way to make money and if you dont like his plays just fade him. Just enjoy the show man
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:
It sure is and unfortunately, it disproves his OWN argument about me risking the rest of my roll (ya know, the whole point of his posting), on that game.
It wasn't about chase plays. It was about my roll.
And by the way. I've followed the Lakers for the majority of my life and a bit more about them and how they will respond than CG knows, the Kings/KState/Spurs etc. etc. etc.
I actually agree with a lot of what you have to say, I just think your hostility to CG is a bit unwarranted. Whats your goal? To get him to quit go home and stop making videos? I think everyone loses if that happens. Theres more than one way to make money and if you dont like his plays just fade him. Just enjoy the show man
But Hutch, its shame to see that bankroll which probably took him a few years to save up all vanishing quickly because of having a good time living life. He should have just took a vacation out to vegas and had fun, instead of now trying to gamble away his life savings. Hes the kind of gambler that should never live in vegas Am sure 1000 spins on the money wheel will be coming soon
Doubt he's having much of a good time based on the videos. Seems rather stressful to me.
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Quote Originally Posted by cd329:
But Hutch, its shame to see that bankroll which probably took him a few years to save up all vanishing quickly because of having a good time living life. He should have just took a vacation out to vegas and had fun, instead of now trying to gamble away his life savings. Hes the kind of gambler that should never live in vegas Am sure 1000 spins on the money wheel will be coming soon
Doubt he's having much of a good time based on the videos. Seems rather stressful to me.
But Hutch, its shame to see that bankroll which probably took him a few years to save up all vanishing quickly because of having a good time living life. He should have just took a vacation out to vegas and had fun, instead of now trying to gamble away his life savings. Hes the kind of gambler that should never live in vegas Am sure 1000 spins on the money wheel will be coming soon
Doubt he's having much of a good time based on the videos. Seems rather stressful to me.
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Quote Originally Posted by cd329:
But Hutch, its shame to see that bankroll which probably took him a few years to save up all vanishing quickly because of having a good time living life. He should have just took a vacation out to vegas and had fun, instead of now trying to gamble away his life savings. Hes the kind of gambler that should never live in vegas Am sure 1000 spins on the money wheel will be coming soon
Doubt he's having much of a good time based on the videos. Seems rather stressful to me.
Yeah, that "best ATS team in the league" is down 22 points midway through the 3rd quarter to the Denver Nuggets.
What's your point? Difference situation with different teams. Atlanta was off a road loss playing at home against a team they've been crushing in the last couple meets. On the road now in high altitude playing against a resurgent Nuggets team after Shaw was fired.
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Quote Originally Posted by smacksmiter:
Yeah, that "best ATS team in the league" is down 22 points midway through the 3rd quarter to the Denver Nuggets.
What's your point? Difference situation with different teams. Atlanta was off a road loss playing at home against a team they've been crushing in the last couple meets. On the road now in high altitude playing against a resurgent Nuggets team after Shaw was fired.
But Hutch, its shame to see that bankroll which probably took him a few years to save up all vanishing quickly because of having a good time living life. He should have just took a vacation out to vegas and had fun, instead of now trying to gamble away his life savings. Hes the kind of gambler that should never live in vegas Am sure 1000 spins on the money wheel will be coming soon
Oh, I get it. But if you have followed this thread (and I think you have), this was going to happen one way or another now that you see it all laid out. He's just a seat of the pants guy (with a pretty darn good covers track record) rolling with the lifestyle in Vegas.
Ever try and reason with an addict (I'm not calling him one, but just comparing the mind sets)? It's impossible.
When you have this mindset, you don't just wake up one day and say, "hey, I think I'm going to do a complete 180 and do things differently." It's just not human nature. He's certainly not going to have an "aha" moment due to anyone posting here in this thread.
So I will just follow along. He always stated that this was a thread so people could follow him in his journey. Never pretended it was anything else.
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Quote Originally Posted by cd329:
But Hutch, its shame to see that bankroll which probably took him a few years to save up all vanishing quickly because of having a good time living life. He should have just took a vacation out to vegas and had fun, instead of now trying to gamble away his life savings. Hes the kind of gambler that should never live in vegas Am sure 1000 spins on the money wheel will be coming soon
Oh, I get it. But if you have followed this thread (and I think you have), this was going to happen one way or another now that you see it all laid out. He's just a seat of the pants guy (with a pretty darn good covers track record) rolling with the lifestyle in Vegas.
Ever try and reason with an addict (I'm not calling him one, but just comparing the mind sets)? It's impossible.
When you have this mindset, you don't just wake up one day and say, "hey, I think I'm going to do a complete 180 and do things differently." It's just not human nature. He's certainly not going to have an "aha" moment due to anyone posting here in this thread.
So I will just follow along. He always stated that this was a thread so people could follow him in his journey. Never pretended it was anything else.
why are people bad mouthing CG so much? This meltdown/journey is one of the most entertaining things I have ever seen on the internet. Just sit back and enjoy the ride. Covers should be sending this dude some cash considering how many visitors and hits he brings to the site lol
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why are people bad mouthing CG so much? This meltdown/journey is one of the most entertaining things I have ever seen on the internet. Just sit back and enjoy the ride. Covers should be sending this dude some cash considering how many visitors and hits he brings to the site lol
why are people bad mouthing CG so much? This meltdown/journey is one of the most entertaining things I have ever seen on the internet. Just sit back and enjoy the ride. Covers should be sending this dude some cash considering how many visitors and hits he brings to the site lol
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why are people bad mouthing CG so much? This meltdown/journey is one of the most entertaining things I have ever seen on the internet. Just sit back and enjoy the ride. Covers should be sending this dude some cash considering how many visitors and hits he brings to the site lol
why are people bad mouthing CG so much? This meltdown/journey is one of the most entertaining things I have ever seen on the internet. Just sit back and enjoy the ride. Covers should be sending this dude some cash considering how many visitors and hits he brings to the site lol
He's been telling people who are trying to help him out to fvck off and shove it. But overall I agree with you.
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Quote Originally Posted by Walter_Sobchak:
why are people bad mouthing CG so much? This meltdown/journey is one of the most entertaining things I have ever seen on the internet. Just sit back and enjoy the ride. Covers should be sending this dude some cash considering how many visitors and hits he brings to the site lol
He's been telling people who are trying to help him out to fvck off and shove it. But overall I agree with you.
I actually agree with a lot of what you have to say, I just think your hostility to CG is a bit unwarranted. Whats your goal? To get him to quit go home and stop making videos? I think everyone loses if that happens. Theres more than one way to make money and if you dont like his plays just fade him. Just enjoy the show man
The hostility that you see here on these pages towards CG has its origin in each individual posters own history. You name it, its there...mad at parents, mad at life, mad at work, mad at wife, mad at _____. They take that anger and project it on to a kid who is living his dream. That way, they can make themselves feel better when he fails.
Because when he fails, their failures are not as bad and their self esteem ascends on high.
Their anger is assuaged because they were right "all along" and one of the most powerful drivers of the human ego is the strong desire to be RIGHT...especially powerful in men.
What they don't realize is that they are not getting any benefit from their exercise in futility. It only ends up holding them back and damaging them even further by reinforcing their twisted mindsets.
It's a sad, sad cycle of futility. Try to raise your self esteem by beating someone down who is living their dreams only to know in the back of your mind you are only reinforcing the fact that you have never lived your dream and never will.
Everyone can see the hostility. Few understand its vitriol...and even fewer the source of the poison.
And a very tiny minuscule percentage way below .00000001 will understand these words.
Carry on.
PM for the skinny on the down low
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Quote Originally Posted by jkjc:
I actually agree with a lot of what you have to say, I just think your hostility to CG is a bit unwarranted. Whats your goal? To get him to quit go home and stop making videos? I think everyone loses if that happens. Theres more than one way to make money and if you dont like his plays just fade him. Just enjoy the show man
The hostility that you see here on these pages towards CG has its origin in each individual posters own history. You name it, its there...mad at parents, mad at life, mad at work, mad at wife, mad at _____. They take that anger and project it on to a kid who is living his dream. That way, they can make themselves feel better when he fails.
Because when he fails, their failures are not as bad and their self esteem ascends on high.
Their anger is assuaged because they were right "all along" and one of the most powerful drivers of the human ego is the strong desire to be RIGHT...especially powerful in men.
What they don't realize is that they are not getting any benefit from their exercise in futility. It only ends up holding them back and damaging them even further by reinforcing their twisted mindsets.
It's a sad, sad cycle of futility. Try to raise your self esteem by beating someone down who is living their dreams only to know in the back of your mind you are only reinforcing the fact that you have never lived your dream and never will.
Everyone can see the hostility. Few understand its vitriol...and even fewer the source of the poison.
And a very tiny minuscule percentage way below .00000001 will understand these words.
The hostility that you see here on these pages towards CG has its origin in each individual posters own history. You name it, its there...mad at parents, mad at life, mad at work, mad at wife, mad at _____. They take that anger and project it on to a kid who is living his dream. That way, they can make themselves feel better when he fails.
Because when he fails, their failures are not as bad and their self esteem ascends on high.
Their anger is assuaged because they were right "all along" and one of the most powerful drivers of the human ego is the strong desire to be RIGHT...especially powerful in men.
What they don't realize is that they are not getting any benefit from their exercise in futility. It only ends up holding them back and damaging them even further by reinforcing their twisted mindsets.
It's a sad, sad cycle of futility. Try to raise your self esteem by beating someone down who is living their dreams only to know in the back of your mind you are only reinforcing the fact that you have never lived your dream and never will.
Everyone can see the hostility. Few understand its vitriol...and even fewer the source of the poison.
And a very tiny minuscule percentage way below .00000001 will understand these words.
Carry on.
I dont want to see him fail. I want to see him quit this insane dream which hes not built for, invest what money he has left for the future and go get a normal job. He just doesnt have the mindeset to ever be a gambler that earns his income solely on gambling.
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Quote Originally Posted by smacksmiter:
The hostility that you see here on these pages towards CG has its origin in each individual posters own history. You name it, its there...mad at parents, mad at life, mad at work, mad at wife, mad at _____. They take that anger and project it on to a kid who is living his dream. That way, they can make themselves feel better when he fails.
Because when he fails, their failures are not as bad and their self esteem ascends on high.
Their anger is assuaged because they were right "all along" and one of the most powerful drivers of the human ego is the strong desire to be RIGHT...especially powerful in men.
What they don't realize is that they are not getting any benefit from their exercise in futility. It only ends up holding them back and damaging them even further by reinforcing their twisted mindsets.
It's a sad, sad cycle of futility. Try to raise your self esteem by beating someone down who is living their dreams only to know in the back of your mind you are only reinforcing the fact that you have never lived your dream and never will.
Everyone can see the hostility. Few understand its vitriol...and even fewer the source of the poison.
And a very tiny minuscule percentage way below .00000001 will understand these words.
Carry on.
I dont want to see him fail. I want to see him quit this insane dream which hes not built for, invest what money he has left for the future and go get a normal job. He just doesnt have the mindeset to ever be a gambler that earns his income solely on gambling.
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