8 division titles, 13 straight wins, his last loss was 5 yrs ago, he's not only beating his opponents, he's basically killing all the bigger fighters that's supposed to beat him up and people forget that PAC didn't even have a good training camp on this Margacheato fight and yet he still won all rounds. We all know that PAC-Mayweather might not happen but where do you guys rank PACMAN for the greatest fighter ever, is he top 3? top 5? Intelligent comments only, so to Jerseyshore89, go F@CK YOURSELF!!!
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8 division titles, 13 straight wins, his last loss was 5 yrs ago, he's not only beating his opponents, he's basically killing all the bigger fighters that's supposed to beat him up and people forget that PAC didn't even have a good training camp on this Margacheato fight and yet he still won all rounds. We all know that PAC-Mayweather might not happen but where do you guys rank PACMAN for the greatest fighter ever, is he top 3? top 5? Intelligent comments only, so to Jerseyshore89, go F@CK YOURSELF!!!
8 division titles, 13 straight wins, his last loss was 5 yrs ago, he's not only beating his opponents, he's basically killing all the bigger fighters that's supposed to beat him up and people forget that PAC didn't even have a good training camp on this Margacheato fight and yet he still won all rounds. We all know that PAC-Mayweather might not happen but where do you guys rank PACMAN for the greatest fighter ever, is he top 3? top 5? Intelligent comments only, so to Jerseyshore89, go F@CK YOURSELF!!!
top 5 i guess.. way above mayweather.. and i agree with u on the jerseyboy comment!!!
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Quote Originally Posted by BLAK_MAMBA:
8 division titles, 13 straight wins, his last loss was 5 yrs ago, he's not only beating his opponents, he's basically killing all the bigger fighters that's supposed to beat him up and people forget that PAC didn't even have a good training camp on this Margacheato fight and yet he still won all rounds. We all know that PAC-Mayweather might not happen but where do you guys rank PACMAN for the greatest fighter ever, is he top 3? top 5? Intelligent comments only, so to Jerseyshore89, go F@CK YOURSELF!!!
top 5 i guess.. way above mayweather.. and i agree with u on the jerseyboy comment!!!
GREATEST BOXER OF ALL TIME OR IN HIS ERA. HIS RECORD WILL NEVER BE BROKEN. GOING 41-0 LIKE MAYFEATHER CAN EASILY BROKEN ESPECIALLY, IF YOU HAND PICK YOUR OPPONENTS.
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GREATEST BOXER OF ALL TIME OR IN HIS ERA. HIS RECORD WILL NEVER BE BROKEN. GOING 41-0 LIKE MAYFEATHER CAN EASILY BROKEN ESPECIALLY, IF YOU HAND PICK YOUR OPPONENTS.
I wouldn't have him in my top 20. I think if he fought Tommy Hearns or Roberto Duran @147 that it wouldn't last 8 rounds. If Duran fight him at even lower weight division then it would be over even quicker.
Pacquaio would lose to Mayweather if they fought so he is not even the best of this era. His achievements of going up 8 weight divisions are really impressive BUT he hasn't fought anyone truly great besides Morales and Barrera and they were coming to the end of their careers when they fought Manny. Hatton, a faded De laHoya and Cotto, Diaz and an over rated Margarito are not the names you need to be a ATG.
I am a Pacman fan as everyone here knows, but a technically gifted fighter like sweet pea Pernell Whitaker (this is a great example) would not lose one round to a fighter like Pacquaio. People tend just to remember recent history and that is why Pacquaio is so highly thought of now but for me I can think of at least 15 better fighters than him.
I think he will be remembered fondly for all his different wins in different classes but for me, he has too many weakness's that would have been exposed in a different era by ALOT better fighters then we have today..
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I wouldn't have him in my top 20. I think if he fought Tommy Hearns or Roberto Duran @147 that it wouldn't last 8 rounds. If Duran fight him at even lower weight division then it would be over even quicker.
Pacquaio would lose to Mayweather if they fought so he is not even the best of this era. His achievements of going up 8 weight divisions are really impressive BUT he hasn't fought anyone truly great besides Morales and Barrera and they were coming to the end of their careers when they fought Manny. Hatton, a faded De laHoya and Cotto, Diaz and an over rated Margarito are not the names you need to be a ATG.
I am a Pacman fan as everyone here knows, but a technically gifted fighter like sweet pea Pernell Whitaker (this is a great example) would not lose one round to a fighter like Pacquaio. People tend just to remember recent history and that is why Pacquaio is so highly thought of now but for me I can think of at least 15 better fighters than him.
I think he will be remembered fondly for all his different wins in different classes but for me, he has too many weakness's that would have been exposed in a different era by ALOT better fighters then we have today..
I would put him in the top 25 or 30 in terms of accomplishments and quality of opposition, but he rates below the best of the best. guys like robinson, armstrong, langford, pep, gans, duran, benny leonard, greb and guys like that, but he is at the second level of all time greats, he fits in with names like arguello, olivares, monzon, hagler, chocolate, walker, chavez, saddler. the legend of pacquiao and his world wide popularity is on on par with the most popular fighters of all time, legends like dempsey, loius , ali, sullivan. he is a great fighter, so don't get me wrong but his legacy is bigger than his actual accomplishments, I beleive that guys like ike williams, billy petrolle, beau jack, guys that the mainstream seldom talk about but the real boxing guys love, would of kicked his ass. people who rate him in the top 10 need to go and liedown for a long time and then when they wake up, try to become experts at something else. top 30 of all time is an amazing accomplishment considering the rich history of the sport, we need to enjoy this great fighter while he is still fighting, which won't be much longer
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I would put him in the top 25 or 30 in terms of accomplishments and quality of opposition, but he rates below the best of the best. guys like robinson, armstrong, langford, pep, gans, duran, benny leonard, greb and guys like that, but he is at the second level of all time greats, he fits in with names like arguello, olivares, monzon, hagler, chocolate, walker, chavez, saddler. the legend of pacquiao and his world wide popularity is on on par with the most popular fighters of all time, legends like dempsey, loius , ali, sullivan. he is a great fighter, so don't get me wrong but his legacy is bigger than his actual accomplishments, I beleive that guys like ike williams, billy petrolle, beau jack, guys that the mainstream seldom talk about but the real boxing guys love, would of kicked his ass. people who rate him in the top 10 need to go and liedown for a long time and then when they wake up, try to become experts at something else. top 30 of all time is an amazing accomplishment considering the rich history of the sport, we need to enjoy this great fighter while he is still fighting, which won't be much longer
Pacquiao is great but he's overrated. His opponents are handpicked (old or coming off devastating losses) and he fights "catchweight fights". At least 20 welterweights throughout history would beat him.
My personal favorite welterweight SRL would wipe the floor with Pacquiao. Tommy Hearns would decapitate him. Of course if they were still around Fredie Roach wouldn't let Pacquiao near either fighter. THAT"S THE TRUTH.
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Pacquiao is great but he's overrated. His opponents are handpicked (old or coming off devastating losses) and he fights "catchweight fights". At least 20 welterweights throughout history would beat him.
My personal favorite welterweight SRL would wipe the floor with Pacquiao. Tommy Hearns would decapitate him. Of course if they were still around Fredie Roach wouldn't let Pacquiao near either fighter. THAT"S THE TRUTH.
8 division titles, 13 straight wins, his last loss was 5 yrs ago, he's not only beating his opponents, he's basically killing all the bigger fighters that's supposed to beat him up and people forget that PAC didn't even have a good training camp on this Margacheato fight and yet he still won all rounds. We all know that PAC-Mayweather might not happen but where do you guys rank PACMAN for the greatest fighter ever, is he top 3? top 5? Intelligent comments only, so to Jerseyshore89, go F@CK YOURSELF!!!
I dont know about ranking but bob arum saids pacman is the best fighter that his ever seen. The person are usually right in what they say!!
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Quote Originally Posted by BLAK_MAMBA:
8 division titles, 13 straight wins, his last loss was 5 yrs ago, he's not only beating his opponents, he's basically killing all the bigger fighters that's supposed to beat him up and people forget that PAC didn't even have a good training camp on this Margacheato fight and yet he still won all rounds. We all know that PAC-Mayweather might not happen but where do you guys rank PACMAN for the greatest fighter ever, is he top 3? top 5? Intelligent comments only, so to Jerseyshore89, go F@CK YOURSELF!!!
I dont know about ranking but bob arum saids pacman is the best fighter that his ever seen. The person are usually right in what they say!!
PACMAN HAD BEATEN CHAMPIONS IN 8 DIV. CLASS IN THEIR PRIME, ONLY THING IS LESSER WEIGHT CLASS IS BEING IGNORE BY BOXING FANS. TRY MOVING 8 DIV, CLASS THE BOXERS MENTIONED IN THIS THREAD AND THEY HAVE TO BEAT HEAVYWEIGHTS. DON'T THINK DURAN, MAYFEATHER AND ETC, WILL BEAT THE LIKES OF ALI, TYSON, HOLYFIELD AND OTHERS AND THEY HAVE TO MOVE UP JUST 4 DIV. CLASS, IMAGINE 8. THATS HOW HARD THE FEAT THAT PACMAN ACCOMPLISHED.
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PACMAN HAD BEATEN CHAMPIONS IN 8 DIV. CLASS IN THEIR PRIME, ONLY THING IS LESSER WEIGHT CLASS IS BEING IGNORE BY BOXING FANS. TRY MOVING 8 DIV, CLASS THE BOXERS MENTIONED IN THIS THREAD AND THEY HAVE TO BEAT HEAVYWEIGHTS. DON'T THINK DURAN, MAYFEATHER AND ETC, WILL BEAT THE LIKES OF ALI, TYSON, HOLYFIELD AND OTHERS AND THEY HAVE TO MOVE UP JUST 4 DIV. CLASS, IMAGINE 8. THATS HOW HARD THE FEAT THAT PACMAN ACCOMPLISHED.
I wouldn't have him in my top 20. I think if he fought Tommy Hearns or Roberto Duran @147 that it wouldn't last 8 rounds. If Duran fight him at even lower weight division then it would be over even quicker.
Pacquaio would lose to Mayweather if they fought so he is not even the best of this era. His achievements of going up 8 weight divisions are really impressive BUT he hasn't fought anyone truly great besides Morales and Barrera and they were coming to the end of their careers when they fought Manny. Hatton, a faded De laHoya and Cotto, Diaz and an over rated Margarito are not the names you need to be a ATG.
I am a Pacman fan as everyone here knows, but a technically gifted fighter like sweet pea Pernell Whitaker (this is a great example) would not lose one round to a fighter like Pacquaio. People tend just to remember recent history and that is why Pacquaio is so highly thought of now but for me I can think of at least 15 better fighters than him.
I think he will be remembered fondly for all his different wins in different classes but for me, he has too many weakness's that would have been exposed in a different era by ALOT better fighters then we have today..
Good post Mack.
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Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:
I wouldn't have him in my top 20. I think if he fought Tommy Hearns or Roberto Duran @147 that it wouldn't last 8 rounds. If Duran fight him at even lower weight division then it would be over even quicker.
Pacquaio would lose to Mayweather if they fought so he is not even the best of this era. His achievements of going up 8 weight divisions are really impressive BUT he hasn't fought anyone truly great besides Morales and Barrera and they were coming to the end of their careers when they fought Manny. Hatton, a faded De laHoya and Cotto, Diaz and an over rated Margarito are not the names you need to be a ATG.
I am a Pacman fan as everyone here knows, but a technically gifted fighter like sweet pea Pernell Whitaker (this is a great example) would not lose one round to a fighter like Pacquaio. People tend just to remember recent history and that is why Pacquaio is so highly thought of now but for me I can think of at least 15 better fighters than him.
I think he will be remembered fondly for all his different wins in different classes but for me, he has too many weakness's that would have been exposed in a different era by ALOT better fighters then we have today..
GREAT FIGHTERS ARE REMEMBERED FROM THERE ACHIEVEMENTS NOT COMPARING FIGHTERS FROM THE PAST TO PRESENT, BECAUSE YOU WON'T KNOW THE END RESULT WHO WILL WIN.
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GREAT FIGHTERS ARE REMEMBERED FROM THERE ACHIEVEMENTS NOT COMPARING FIGHTERS FROM THE PAST TO PRESENT, BECAUSE YOU WON'T KNOW THE END RESULT WHO WILL WIN.
GREAT FIGHTERS ARE REMEMBERED FROM THERE ACHIEVEMENTS NOT COMPARING FIGHTERS FROM THE PAST TO PRESENT, BECAUSE YOU WON'T KNOW THE END RESULT WHO WILL WIN.
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Quote Originally Posted by edmanz:
GREAT FIGHTERS ARE REMEMBERED FROM THERE ACHIEVEMENTS NOT COMPARING FIGHTERS FROM THE PAST TO PRESENT, BECAUSE YOU WON'T KNOW THE END RESULT WHO WILL WIN.
Pacquiao is great but he's overrated. His opponents are handpicked (old or coming off devastating losses) and he fights "catchweight fights". At least 20 welterweights throughout history would beat him.
My personal favorite welterweight SRL would wipe the floor with Pacquiao. Tommy Hearns would decapitate him. Of course if they were still around Fredie Roach wouldn't let Pacquiao near either fighter. THAT"S THE TRUTH.
..........WRONG !!! UR JUST A HATER , EVEN EMMANUEL STEWARD SAID " HEARNS WILL NEVER HAVE PROBLEMS BEATING SLICK BOXERS LIKE SUGAR RAY , AND UR BOY FRAUD GAYWEATHER ...CHECK YOUTUBE AND THAT'S THE TRUTH ....
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Quote Originally Posted by DatMofoThere85:
Pacquiao is great but he's overrated. His opponents are handpicked (old or coming off devastating losses) and he fights "catchweight fights". At least 20 welterweights throughout history would beat him.
My personal favorite welterweight SRL would wipe the floor with Pacquiao. Tommy Hearns would decapitate him. Of course if they were still around Fredie Roach wouldn't let Pacquiao near either fighter. THAT"S THE TRUTH.
..........WRONG !!! UR JUST A HATER , EVEN EMMANUEL STEWARD SAID " HEARNS WILL NEVER HAVE PROBLEMS BEATING SLICK BOXERS LIKE SUGAR RAY , AND UR BOY FRAUD GAYWEATHER ...CHECK YOUTUBE AND THAT'S THE TRUTH ....
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