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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2011 - 5:37 AM ET #1

    it makes me  sick man it really does, if you have watched mayweathers fights like i have this isnt the first time this old guy has been an ahole, the thing that makes me so sick man is the racist part, and I am white, a ton of people watched this and this was the first time they have seen mayweather and he seems like an ahole i dunno how he lasted so long w/o snapping at this guy. Your job as a reporter isnt to instigate your suppose to just get the emotion/insight of the athlete and he has constantly gone after mayweather, and same with howard letterman same racist its sickening man, no way ortiz won round 2 he did the same shit vs hatton gave nonsense rounds, to me this media is unreal , if mayweather was a white religious person hed be the best athlete in america, just look at tebow still getting coverage as a number 3 qb, and mayweather is one of the best fighters to ever walk this planet, its gross ur personalty should not determine how u are perceived, and mayweather is w/o question top 10 boxer ever and he deals with constant bs
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    it makes me  sick man it really does, if you have watched mayweathers fights like i have this isnt the first time this old guy has been an ahole, the thing that makes me so sick man is the racist part, and I am white, a ton of people watched this and this was the first time they have seen mayweather and he seems like an ahole i dunno how he lasted so long w/o snapping at this guy. Your job as a reporter isnt to instigate your suppose to just get the emotion/insight of the athlete and he has constantly gone after mayweather, and same with howard letterman same racist its sickening man, no way ortiz won round 2 he did the same shit vs hatton gave nonsense rounds, to me this media is unreal , if mayweather was a white religious person hed be the best athlete in america, just look at tebow still getting coverage as a number 3 qb, and mayweather is one of the best fighters to ever walk this planet, its gross ur personalty should not determine how u are perceived, and mayweather is w/o question top 10 boxer ever and he deals with constant bs
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2011 - 5:39 AM ET #2

    i dont even care if you think what happened was cheap, which i still do think mayweather knew what he did was cheap, cant blame him after the headbutt, but he wouldve won the match regardless, but it was cheap but still the stuff he deals with just because he is arrogant and an ahole is redic, and i cant believe it took him so long to snap
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    i dont even care if you think what happened was cheap, which i still do think mayweather knew what he did was cheap, cant blame him after the headbutt, but he wouldve won the match regardless, but it was cheap but still the stuff he deals with just because he is arrogant and an ahole is redic, and i cant believe it took him so long to snap
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2011 - 5:44 AM ET #3

    if this happened to any white athlete there would be an uproar and i am white, rewatch the interview, mayweather simply said and anyone who watches the interviews merchants gives cannot blame him saying i am done with this, you don't treat me fairly, and then merchant talks about fighting him, its wrong ledderman said ortiz won round 2!!!! hes a boxing expert are you kidding me!!! anyone that watched this fight that knows boxing knows mayweather handedly won every single round
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    if this happened to any white athlete there would be an uproar and i am white, rewatch the interview, mayweather simply said and anyone who watches the interviews merchants gives cannot blame him saying i am done with this, you don't treat me fairly, and then merchant talks about fighting him, its wrong ledderman said ortiz won round 2!!!! hes a boxing expert are you kidding me!!! anyone that watched this fight that knows boxing knows mayweather handedly won every single round
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2011 - 6:48 AM ET #4

    merchant is a fuckin joke. old man needs to call it a day and get the fuck off t.v. brings down HBO

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    merchant is a fuckin joke. old man needs to call it a day and get the fuck off t.v. brings down HBO

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2011 - 8:48 AM ET #5

    Larry Merchant is a joke to me (like Bert Sugar). Harold Lederman is accurate. Ortiz landed 0 for 31 jabs. Like I stated, Mayweather is natural master of defense, and that stat is huge because Ortiz is a southpaw but naturally a right handed fighter and he has a strong fast stiff jab. In just under twelve minutes of boxing he landed ZERO jabs. Even though in boxing is more subjective and you have to watch the fights, this fight you could have looked at one stat. Ortiz in his last 6 bouts averaged 13 jabs per round and landed less than 2 (11%), while Mayweather last 7 bouts average over 16 jabs per round and landed almost 7 (40.8%). Ortiz was now facing the premiere defensive boxer (Hopkins included) not a slugger or bum, why and how did people think he could win if he couldn't hit Floyd with a jab? Floyd didn't even have to anticipate punches because without the jab he saw them coming.
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    Larry Merchant is a joke to me (like Bert Sugar). Harold Lederman is accurate. Ortiz landed 0 for 31 jabs. Like I stated, Mayweather is natural master of defense, and that stat is huge because Ortiz is a southpaw but naturally a right handed fighter and he has a strong fast stiff jab. In just under twelve minutes of boxing he landed ZERO jabs. Even though in boxing is more subjective and you have to watch the fights, this fight you could have looked at one stat. Ortiz in his last 6 bouts averaged 13 jabs per round and landed less than 2 (11%), while Mayweather last 7 bouts average over 16 jabs per round and landed almost 7 (40.8%). Ortiz was now facing the premiere defensive boxer (Hopkins included) not a slugger or bum, why and how did people think he could win if he couldn't hit Floyd with a jab? Floyd didn't even have to anticipate punches because without the jab he saw them coming.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2011 - 8:48 AM ET #6

    Cowboys you are a fucking joke.
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    Cowboys you are a fucking joke.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2011 - 8:53 AM ET #7

    cowboys173418: I'm curious about the racism? I'm not being sarcastic I just believe it's more of ignorance and lack of knowledge of boxing with big ego announcers that are often clueless!
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    cowboys173418: I'm curious about the racism? I'm not being sarcastic I just believe it's more of ignorance and lack of knowledge of boxing with big ego announcers that are often clueless!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2011 - 9:30 AM ET #8

    Cowboys, you are a total load of shit.
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    Cowboys, you are a total load of shit.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2011 - 10:27 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by ZOUK:

    cowboys173418: I'm curious about the racism? I'm not being sarcastic I just believe it's more of ignorance and lack of knowledge of boxing with big ego announcers that are often clueless!

    this is a stupid comment, you should be proud that there is still a guy in boxing with the balls to ask a question with some relevance, If u watch boxing often not just the odd pay per vie match you would now larry merchant is often calls it how it is, when other people are too box, he is an asset to boxing. a sport that is being ruined by these ghetto clowns, floyd was scared that he would have to answer for what a scum bag he really is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZOUK:

    cowboys173418: I'm curious about the racism? I'm not being sarcastic I just believe it's more of ignorance and lack of knowledge of boxing with big ego announcers that are often clueless!

    this is a stupid comment, you should be proud that there is still a guy in boxing with the balls to ask a question with some relevance, If u watch boxing often not just the odd pay per vie match you would now larry merchant is often calls it how it is, when other people are too box, he is an asset to boxing. a sport that is being ruined by these ghetto clowns, floyd was scared that he would have to answer for what a scum bag he really is.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2011 - 10:33 AM ET #10

    Racism? Mayweather is a punk.

    And if hussein obama were white, he'd be making sandwiches in a deli somewhere.
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    Racism? Mayweather is a punk.

    And if hussein obama were white, he'd be making sandwiches in a deli somewhere.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2011 - 10:42 AM ET #11

    cowboys173418 -  you are dumb.
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2011 - 10:52 AM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:

    Racism? Mayweather is a punk.

    And if hussein obama were white, he'd be making sandwiches in a deli somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:

    Racism? Mayweather is a punk.

    And if hussein obama were white, he'd be making sandwiches in a deli somewhere.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2011 - 10:53 AM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:

    Racism? Mayweather is a punk.

    And if hussein obama were white, he'd be making sandwiches in a deli somewhere.

    That's right, being a minority makes it soooooo much easier to get ahead here in AmeriKa. That's why there are sooo many minorities in position of power here in the states. Fkg DA, choke that dick of yours before any more seeping numb nuts escape, and become upright.
    I'd rather be playing D&D.
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    Racism? Mayweather is a punk.

    And if hussein obama were white, he'd be making sandwiches in a deli somewhere.

    That's right, being a minority makes it soooooo much easier to get ahead here in AmeriKa. That's why there are sooo many minorities in position of power here in the states. Fkg DA, choke that dick of yours before any more seeping numb nuts escape, and become upright.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2011 - 11:01 AM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:

    Racism? Mayweather is a punk.

    And if hussein obama were white, he'd be making sandwiches in a deli somewhere.



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    Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:

    Racism? Mayweather is a punk.

    And if hussein obama were white, he'd be making sandwiches in a deli somewhere.



     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2011 - 11:40 AM ET #15

    I do wish Merchant would have been more objective in his questioning. It is obvious that Merchant hasn't like mayweather for some time now. I wanted to hear what Mayweather had to say, don't put him on the defensive from the very first question please. 
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    I do wish Merchant would have been more objective in his questioning. It is obvious that Merchant hasn't like mayweather for some time now. I wanted to hear what Mayweather had to say, don't put him on the defensive from the very first question please. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2011 - 12:00 PM ET #16

    I am a joke lol!!??? you guys need to get with it man, look at the media these days they are still talking about tim tebow he is a 3rd string qb, as much as mayweather is an ahole, that should not change your greatness as an athlete, the only time he was ever knocked down, not even tko'ed knocked down was when his hand hurt, larry has been biased against him the hole time, and ledderman too, gave ortiz round 2 gtfo of here and go back and watch hatton he gives hatton a cpl of rounds its too funny, then at the end all the judges give him every single round
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    I am a joke lol!!??? you guys need to get with it man, look at the media these days they are still talking about tim tebow he is a 3rd string qb, as much as mayweather is an ahole, that should not change your greatness as an athlete, the only time he was ever knocked down, not even tko'ed knocked down was when his hand hurt, larry has been biased against him the hole time, and ledderman too, gave ortiz round 2 gtfo of here and go back and watch hatton he gives hatton a cpl of rounds its too funny, then at the end all the judges give him every single round
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2011 - 12:14 PM ET #17

    merchant is a prick
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2011 - 2:56 PM ET #19

    If  FRAUD GAYFEATHER will have a rematch with Loser Ortiz , then Fu#k boxing..... PACQUIAO VS MAYFLOWER is what every boxing fans want  !!!!!

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    If  FRAUD GAYFEATHER will have a rematch with Loser Ortiz , then Fu#k boxing..... PACQUIAO VS MAYFLOWER is what every boxing fans want  !!!!!

     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2011 - 3:24 PM ET #20

    cowboys173418: Wow, Tim Tebow is over-rated and a guy gave a round to Ortiz. Let's call the NAACP. Larry Merchant has balls other guys don't... how, by being more arrogant and asking rhetorical questions? What is the Tim Tebow thing...he gets coverage for his dedication from college, and he gives and promotes help programs for children in need (sick, abused, handicapped, etc...).
    Also, being a die hard (borderline fundamentalist) christian he gets plenty of coverage in the south and mid-west. He's considered the all-american give it all you got on and off the field poster boy. Vick totured helpless animals and because he did his time and paid his fine and now he turned his life all around he's got $100 million contract with $40 million guaranteed. First off, I never considered athletes, actors, etc, role models. So when they say pro athletes have to portray a certain image it is because they want to sell more products endorsed by role model athletes. It's media brainwashing. No one thought Vick when he went to jail that several years later he would have a monster contract. Even with public outrage, MONEY SPEAKS LOUDER, and Vick is entertaining on a bad team. Now with players that are all super-fast and talented, that offense is going to make defenses having to use their second and third string players on rotation because of the energy burned on coverage.
    BTW - The super speed eagles QB, RB, (2) WRs average an official combine 40 yard dash at 4.38 seconds
    Top 10 Fastest Players on Both Sides of the Eagles Football:
    Offense:
    1. DeSean Jackson (WR) - 4.35
    2. Michael Vick (QB) - 4.36 Rookie (4.25 Unofficial) 4.43 (Most Recent Heard)
    3. Steve Smith (WR-IR) - 4.38
    4. Ronnie Brown (RB2/KR2) - 4.43
    5. Dion Lewis (RB3/KR) - 4.47
    6. Jeremy Maclin (WR) - 4.48 (4.31 Unofficial)
    7. LeSean McCoy (RB) - 4.50
    8. Riley Cooper (WR4) - 4.53
    9. Jason Avant (WR3) - 4.55
    10. Vince Young (QB2) - 4.58
    Defense:
    1. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie (CB2) - 4.29
    2. Joselio Hanson (CB2) - 4.43
    3. Nnamdi Asomugha (CB) - 4.45
    4. Curtis Marsh (CB3) - 4.46
    5. Asante Samuel (CB) - 4.49
    6. Brandon Hughes (CB) - 4.50
    7. Nate Allen (SS/IR) - 4.51
    8. Colt Anderson (SS3) - 4.53
    9. Jamar Chaney (LB) - 4.54
    10. Jaiquawn Jarrett (FS2) - 4.57
    Speed players that are no longer among Philadelphia Eagles:
    -Sinorice Moss - 4.38
    -Ellis Hobbs - 4.45
    -Jerome Harrison - 4.47
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    cowboys173418: Wow, Tim Tebow is over-rated and a guy gave a round to Ortiz. Let's call the NAACP. Larry Merchant has balls other guys don't... how, by being more arrogant and asking rhetorical questions? What is the Tim Tebow thing...he gets coverage for his dedication from college, and he gives and promotes help programs for children in need (sick, abused, handicapped, etc...).
    Also, being a die hard (borderline fundamentalist) christian he gets plenty of coverage in the south and mid-west. He's considered the all-american give it all you got on and off the field poster boy. Vick totured helpless animals and because he did his time and paid his fine and now he turned his life all around he's got $100 million contract with $40 million guaranteed. First off, I never considered athletes, actors, etc, role models. So when they say pro athletes have to portray a certain image it is because they want to sell more products endorsed by role model athletes. It's media brainwashing. No one thought Vick when he went to jail that several years later he would have a monster contract. Even with public outrage, MONEY SPEAKS LOUDER, and Vick is entertaining on a bad team. Now with players that are all super-fast and talented, that offense is going to make defenses having to use their second and third string players on rotation because of the energy burned on coverage.
    BTW - The super speed eagles QB, RB, (2) WRs average an official combine 40 yard dash at 4.38 seconds
    Top 10 Fastest Players on Both Sides of the Eagles Football:
    Offense:
    1. DeSean Jackson (WR) - 4.35
    2. Michael Vick (QB) - 4.36 Rookie (4.25 Unofficial) 4.43 (Most Recent Heard)
    3. Steve Smith (WR-IR) - 4.38
    4. Ronnie Brown (RB2/KR2) - 4.43
    5. Dion Lewis (RB3/KR) - 4.47
    6. Jeremy Maclin (WR) - 4.48 (4.31 Unofficial)
    7. LeSean McCoy (RB) - 4.50
    8. Riley Cooper (WR4) - 4.53
    9. Jason Avant (WR3) - 4.55
    10. Vince Young (QB2) - 4.58
    Defense:
    1. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie (CB2) - 4.29
    2. Joselio Hanson (CB2) - 4.43
    3. Nnamdi Asomugha (CB) - 4.45
    4. Curtis Marsh (CB3) - 4.46
    5. Asante Samuel (CB) - 4.49
    6. Brandon Hughes (CB) - 4.50
    7. Nate Allen (SS/IR) - 4.51
    8. Colt Anderson (SS3) - 4.53
    9. Jamar Chaney (LB) - 4.54
    10. Jaiquawn Jarrett (FS2) - 4.57
    Speed players that are no longer among Philadelphia Eagles:
    -Sinorice Moss - 4.38
    -Ellis Hobbs - 4.45
    -Jerome Harrison - 4.47
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2011 - 6:07 PM ET #21

    cowboys173418: what was said in the bout or during the interview that was racist?

    For that matter, what did you consider out of line in any way?
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    cowboys173418: what was said in the bout or during the interview that was racist?

    For that matter, what did you consider out of line in any way?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2011 - 9:09 PM ET #22

    Larry Merchant put a better fight than dumb Ortiz. LM should be the star power of the EVENT.
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    Larry Merchant put a better fight than dumb Ortiz. LM should be the star power of the EVENT.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 18, 2011 - 9:18 PM ET #23

    Mayflower is an asshole no matter what color he is. When and if he ever fights Pacman he will get that mouthy ass punched out. FACT!

     

    Sounds to me like you are trying to instigate more than merchant.

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    Mayflower is an asshole no matter what color he is. When and if he ever fights Pacman he will get that mouthy ass punched out. FACT!

     

    Sounds to me like you are trying to instigate more than merchant.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2011 - 12:13 AM ET #24

    cm123: You better berate gamblingallday for he asked what I asked. LOL! cm123 is cowboys173418! Great way to have another member back up your comments. It's strange how this guy appears and writes almost identically and defends his fellow friends thread! Fooled me... just like HBO 24/7 did by trying to make me believe Ortiz had a chance at all!
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    cm123: You better berate gamblingallday for he asked what I asked. LOL! cm123 is cowboys173418! Great way to have another member back up your comments. It's strange how this guy appears and writes almost identically and defends his fellow friends thread! Fooled me... just like HBO 24/7 did by trying to make me believe Ortiz had a chance at all!
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2011 - 2:10 AM ET #25

    Larry Merchant was asking him real questions and Floyd didnt like it because Floyd is a spoiled douchebag that thinks everyone should kiss his ass
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    Larry Merchant was asking him real questions and Floyd didnt like it because Floyd is a spoiled douchebag that thinks everyone should kiss his ass
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