I don't think Bradley's been the same since the Pacquiao fight and his last fight might have ruined him. Marquez has had a career rejuvenation and wouldn't be surprised if he was juicing.
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Taking this early before it goes up higher.
Juan Manuel Marquez -140 vs. Timothy Bradley
I don't think Bradley's been the same since the Pacquiao fight and his last fight might have ruined him. Marquez has had a career rejuvenation and wouldn't be surprised if he was juicing.
Liked JMM as soon as this fight was announced. Bradley was given a boxing lesson by Manny, then his last fight he was almost KO'd 3 times. Unless he gets his third gift decision in a row, can't see him beating JMM.
Frank the tank might be right about Bradley being ruined, remember the Meldrick Taylor vs Chavez fight, if Richard Steele wouldn't have stopped that fight, Taylor would have won that fight, despite pissing blood.
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Liked JMM as soon as this fight was announced. Bradley was given a boxing lesson by Manny, then his last fight he was almost KO'd 3 times. Unless he gets his third gift decision in a row, can't see him beating JMM.
Frank the tank might be right about Bradley being ruined, remember the Meldrick Taylor vs Chavez fight, if Richard Steele wouldn't have stopped that fight, Taylor would have won that fight, despite pissing blood.
Liked JMM as soon as this fight was announced. Bradley was given a boxing lesson by Manny, then his last fight he was almost KO'd 3 times. Unless he gets his third gift decision in a row, can't see him beating JMM.
Frank the tank might be right about Bradley being ruined, remember the Meldrick Taylor vs Chavez fight, if Richard Steele wouldn't have stopped that fight, Taylor would have won that fight, despite pissing blood.
Bradley was not giving a boxing lesson by Manny. What fight were you watching? Did you watch the second half of that fight? I suggest you do.
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Quote Originally Posted by cd2010:
Liked JMM as soon as this fight was announced. Bradley was given a boxing lesson by Manny, then his last fight he was almost KO'd 3 times. Unless he gets his third gift decision in a row, can't see him beating JMM.
Frank the tank might be right about Bradley being ruined, remember the Meldrick Taylor vs Chavez fight, if Richard Steele wouldn't have stopped that fight, Taylor would have won that fight, despite pissing blood.
Bradley was not giving a boxing lesson by Manny. What fight were you watching? Did you watch the second half of that fight? I suggest you do.
Everyone is sh!ting on Chavez for the weight fiasco and rightfully so.
Bryan Vera has a very solid resume and has fight some really good
fighters. Vera is the perfect opponent for Chavez to get back on the
rgiht track. He won't have anything to keep Chavez off him and Chavez
will stop him. I would really be surprised if Chavez does not looks
spectacular today. I think he comes out and proves a point and runs
right over Vera. Chavez should be entering the ring from 180-190 pounds.
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. by KO/TKO -185
I
think Adonis Stevenson is slightly overrated right now. (I took
Stevenson BIG vs Dawson because it was a bad matchup for Dawson). Stevenson has looked pretty bad at times vs some fighters that aren't really good. The
fighters that gave Cloud problem were pure boxers and guys that were
able to move, Campillo and Hopkins. Stevenson has power and can box a
bet but he is nothing like the fighters that trouble Cloud. Cloud has
showed a sturdy chin and as long as he can get on the inside to take
away Stevenson's power he should be able to stay in the fight. I am very tempted to take Cloud but I like the over 7.5 rounds better.
Over 7.5 Rounds +110
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Everyone is sh!ting on Chavez for the weight fiasco and rightfully so.
Bryan Vera has a very solid resume and has fight some really good
fighters. Vera is the perfect opponent for Chavez to get back on the
rgiht track. He won't have anything to keep Chavez off him and Chavez
will stop him. I would really be surprised if Chavez does not looks
spectacular today. I think he comes out and proves a point and runs
right over Vera. Chavez should be entering the ring from 180-190 pounds.
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. by KO/TKO -185
I
think Adonis Stevenson is slightly overrated right now. (I took
Stevenson BIG vs Dawson because it was a bad matchup for Dawson). Stevenson has looked pretty bad at times vs some fighters that aren't really good. The
fighters that gave Cloud problem were pure boxers and guys that were
able to move, Campillo and Hopkins. Stevenson has power and can box a
bet but he is nothing like the fighters that trouble Cloud. Cloud has
showed a sturdy chin and as long as he can get on the inside to take
away Stevenson's power he should be able to stay in the fight. I am very tempted to take Cloud but I like the over 7.5 rounds better.
Everyone is sh!ting on Chavez for the weight fiasco and rightfully so.
Bryan Vera has a very solid resume and has fight some really good
fighters. Vera is the perfect opponent for Chavez to get back on the
rgiht track. He won't have anything to keep Chavez off him and Chavez
will stop him. I would really be surprised if Chavez does not looks
spectacular today. I think he comes out and proves a point and runs
right over Vera. Chavez should be entering the ring from 180-190 pounds.
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. by KO/TKO -185
I
think Adonis Stevenson is slightly overrated right now. (I took
Stevenson BIG vs Dawson because it was a bad matchup for Dawson). Stevenson has looked pretty bad at times vs some fighters that aren't really good. The
fighters that gave Cloud problem were pure boxers and guys that were
able to move, Campillo and Hopkins. Stevenson has power and can box a
bet but he is nothing like the fighters that trouble Cloud. Cloud has
showed a sturdy chin and as long as he can get on the inside to take
away Stevenson's power he should be able to stay in the fight. I am very tempted to take Cloud but I like the over 7.5 rounds better.
Over 7.5 Rounds +110
wtf...does that count as a win for over 7.5?
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Quote Originally Posted by frank the tank:
Everyone is sh!ting on Chavez for the weight fiasco and rightfully so.
Bryan Vera has a very solid resume and has fight some really good
fighters. Vera is the perfect opponent for Chavez to get back on the
rgiht track. He won't have anything to keep Chavez off him and Chavez
will stop him. I would really be surprised if Chavez does not looks
spectacular today. I think he comes out and proves a point and runs
right over Vera. Chavez should be entering the ring from 180-190 pounds.
Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. by KO/TKO -185
I
think Adonis Stevenson is slightly overrated right now. (I took
Stevenson BIG vs Dawson because it was a bad matchup for Dawson). Stevenson has looked pretty bad at times vs some fighters that aren't really good. The
fighters that gave Cloud problem were pure boxers and guys that were
able to move, Campillo and Hopkins. Stevenson has power and can box a
bet but he is nothing like the fighters that trouble Cloud. Cloud has
showed a sturdy chin and as long as he can get on the inside to take
away Stevenson's power he should be able to stay in the fight. I am very tempted to take Cloud but I like the over 7.5 rounds better.
I don't think Bradley's been the same since the Pacquiao fight and his last fight might have ruined him. Marquez has had a career rejuvenation and wouldn't be surprised if he was juicing.
I'm adding more on Marquez which makes it pretty much a max bet. I've done okay on max bets on boxing. Not saying it's a lock or anything but I'm not just not talking out of my @ss. I really think Marquez stops Bradley here.
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Juan Manuel WARquez -140
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Hopkins/Cloud max bet https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=39&sub=101576465
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Quote Originally Posted by frank the tank:
Taking this early before it goes up higher.
Juan Manuel Marquez -140 vs. Timothy Bradley
I don't think Bradley's been the same since the Pacquiao fight and his last fight might have ruined him. Marquez has had a career rejuvenation and wouldn't be surprised if he was juicing.
I'm adding more on Marquez which makes it pretty much a max bet. I've done okay on max bets on boxing. Not saying it's a lock or anything but I'm not just not talking out of my @ss. I really think Marquez stops Bradley here.
BOL
Juan Manuel WARquez -140
Donaire/Montiel max bet https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=39&sub=100980504
Stevenson/Dawson max bet https://www.covers.com/postingforum/POST01/showmessage.aspx?spt=39&sub=101620565
Hopkins/Cloud max bet https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=39&sub=101576465
I'm adding more on Marquez which makes it pretty much a max bet. I've done okay on max bets on boxing. Not saying it's a lock or anything but I'm not just not talking out of my @ss. I really think Marquez stops Bradley here.
BOL
Juan Manuel WARquez -140
Donaire/Montiel max bet https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=39&sub=100980504
Stevenson/Dawson max bet https://www.covers.com/postingforum/POST01/showmessage.aspx?spt=39&sub=101620565
Hopkins/Cloud max bet https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=39&sub=101576465
JMM can get the stoppage if he hurts Bradley or if Bradley mistaking thinks he can make it rough with JMM. It entirely depends on how Bradley.
i fully expect him to come out and try to use his jab and speed but that will not be working with JMM. Later round will decided how the fight does because Timmy is a warrior with heart that comes to win, but that might be his downfall here. JMM can counter punch with power shots and combinations. If he hurts Timm, it might be bbig big trouble. The guys saying this is a lock going the distance are playing with fire. This fight has the potnetial for FOTY.
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Quote Originally Posted by frank the tank:
I'm adding more on Marquez which makes it pretty much a max bet. I've done okay on max bets on boxing. Not saying it's a lock or anything but I'm not just not talking out of my @ss. I really think Marquez stops Bradley here.
BOL
Juan Manuel WARquez -140
Donaire/Montiel max bet https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=39&sub=100980504
Stevenson/Dawson max bet https://www.covers.com/postingforum/POST01/showmessage.aspx?spt=39&sub=101620565
Hopkins/Cloud max bet https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=39&sub=101576465
JMM can get the stoppage if he hurts Bradley or if Bradley mistaking thinks he can make it rough with JMM. It entirely depends on how Bradley.
i fully expect him to come out and try to use his jab and speed but that will not be working with JMM. Later round will decided how the fight does because Timmy is a warrior with heart that comes to win, but that might be his downfall here. JMM can counter punch with power shots and combinations. If he hurts Timm, it might be bbig big trouble. The guys saying this is a lock going the distance are playing with fire. This fight has the potnetial for FOTY.
Frank it was a premature stoppage (we all know that) but Groves was not going to get to the end of 12..He was blowing heavy after 7 rounds. He put in a HUGE effort and Froch wouldn't go away. He got caught at the start of 8 and that changed everything. Round 9 he had gassed. I dont think he would have survived to the bell and for sure he wouldn't have gotten to 12...
Now Froch was never the quickest but he has aged as a fighter tonight. If Groves gets a rematch he is a better fighter, but he his stamina is a BIG problem..
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Frank it was a premature stoppage (we all know that) but Groves was not going to get to the end of 12..He was blowing heavy after 7 rounds. He put in a HUGE effort and Froch wouldn't go away. He got caught at the start of 8 and that changed everything. Round 9 he had gassed. I dont think he would have survived to the bell and for sure he wouldn't have gotten to 12...
Now Froch was never the quickest but he has aged as a fighter tonight. If Groves gets a rematch he is a better fighter, but he his stamina is a BIG problem..
Frank it was a premature stoppage (we all know that) but Groves was not going to get to the end of 12..He was blowing heavy after 7 rounds. He put in a HUGE effort and Froch wouldn't go away. He got caught at the start of 8 and that changed everything. Round 9 he had gassed. I dont think he would have survived to the bell and for sure he wouldn't have gotten to 12...
Now Froch was never the quickest but he has aged as a fighter tonight. If Groves gets a rematch he is a better fighter, but he his stamina is a BIG problem..
I'm not 100% saying Groves would have survived but he absolutely deserved a chance to survive. he wasn't taking any big punches when the fight was stopped. And yes Stamina is big and who knows if Groves punches took a lot out of Froch as well? Maybe Froch could have got tired in the championship rounds.
Either way the ref robbed us of a good fight
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Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:
Frank it was a premature stoppage (we all know that) but Groves was not going to get to the end of 12..He was blowing heavy after 7 rounds. He put in a HUGE effort and Froch wouldn't go away. He got caught at the start of 8 and that changed everything. Round 9 he had gassed. I dont think he would have survived to the bell and for sure he wouldn't have gotten to 12...
Now Froch was never the quickest but he has aged as a fighter tonight. If Groves gets a rematch he is a better fighter, but he his stamina is a BIG problem..
I'm not 100% saying Groves would have survived but he absolutely deserved a chance to survive. he wasn't taking any big punches when the fight was stopped. And yes Stamina is big and who knows if Groves punches took a lot out of Froch as well? Maybe Froch could have got tired in the championship rounds.
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Liked JMM as soon as this fight was announced. Bradley was given a boxing lesson by Manny, then his last fight he was almost KO'd 3 times. Unless he gets his third gift decision in a row, can't see him beating JMM.
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