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    Is Boxing Almost Down for the Count?

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    Michaelperry
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2009 - 10:43 AM ET #1

    I understand why MMA has passed boxing in terms of popularity.

    There are more ways to win a match, plus you can still knock out your opponent with one punch, just like with boxing.

    When I visited Las Vegas in July last year, I saw firsthand that MMA has not only passed boxing, but its lapped it a few times.

    I was tempted to go to UFC 86 (Rampage Jackson vs. Forrest Griffin), but when I saw it was going to be $500 just to get in, I balked.

    Then I saw on the same night as UFC, that there was going to be a boxing match between Ricardo Torres and Kendall Holt to decide the WBO light welterweight title.

    I could get fifth-row tickets for $150 each. Sign me up. While I have never been to a MMA event, I hadn’t been to a boxing match, either.

    While 11,000 people were going bonkers at Mandalay Bay before the start of the UFC event, Planet Hollywood was listless, as there may have been 4,000 people at the boxing event.

    In between fights, Paris Hilton shockingly made a cameo, something that Showtime obviously paid big bucks for. The crowd was amused actually.

    Earlier in the day, I went to Imperial Palace and made a bet on the "Total Rounds" the fight would go. I bet over 9.5, figuring I would either see a few knockdowns or win some money. After seeing the 2/1 underdog Torres knock down Holt twice in the first 30 seconds, and then Holt knockout Torres 30 seconds later, I had never been so happy to lose a bet before.

    After the final knockout to decide the fight, I was jumping up and down like an 11-year-old girl at a Jonas Brothers concert.

    There is still a prominent spot on the sports map for boxing.

    One reason I think that boxing will always be somewhat popular, is you can't dilly-dally and bear hug someone for two minutes straight, like you can in MMA.  

    I think the emergence of MMA is great, but there is no reason for so many people to turn their back on boxing.

    Yes, there are neurological concerns for boxers, but that’s what doctors are for. The problem more times than naught is that there are too many boxers who don't know when to throw in the towel on their career.

    After witnessing the boxing match like I did live, I realize that I am not ready to throw the towel on boxing.

    Please let me know what you think about the state of boxing today.
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    I understand why MMA has passed boxing in terms of popularity.

    There are more ways to win a match, plus you can still knock out your opponent with one punch, just like with boxing.

    When I visited Las Vegas in July last year, I saw firsthand that MMA has not only passed boxing, but its lapped it a few times.

    I was tempted to go to UFC 86 (Rampage Jackson vs. Forrest Griffin), but when I saw it was going to be $500 just to get in, I balked.

    Then I saw on the same night as UFC, that there was going to be a boxing match between Ricardo Torres and Kendall Holt to decide the WBO light welterweight title.

    I could get fifth-row tickets for $150 each. Sign me up. While I have never been to a MMA event, I hadn’t been to a boxing match, either.

    While 11,000 people were going bonkers at Mandalay Bay before the start of the UFC event, Planet Hollywood was listless, as there may have been 4,000 people at the boxing event.

    In between fights, Paris Hilton shockingly made a cameo, something that Showtime obviously paid big bucks for. The crowd was amused actually.

    Earlier in the day, I went to Imperial Palace and made a bet on the "Total Rounds" the fight would go. I bet over 9.5, figuring I would either see a few knockdowns or win some money. After seeing the 2/1 underdog Torres knock down Holt twice in the first 30 seconds, and then Holt knockout Torres 30 seconds later, I had never been so happy to lose a bet before.

    After the final knockout to decide the fight, I was jumping up and down like an 11-year-old girl at a Jonas Brothers concert.

    There is still a prominent spot on the sports map for boxing.

    One reason I think that boxing will always be somewhat popular, is you can't dilly-dally and bear hug someone for two minutes straight, like you can in MMA.  

    I think the emergence of MMA is great, but there is no reason for so many people to turn their back on boxing.

    Yes, there are neurological concerns for boxers, but that’s what doctors are for. The problem more times than naught is that there are too many boxers who don't know when to throw in the towel on their career.

    After witnessing the boxing match like I did live, I realize that I am not ready to throw the towel on boxing.

    Please let me know what you think about the state of boxing today.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2009 - 1:17 PM ET #2

    the comparison u made is ridic. Ur comparing Rampage vs Forest Griffin who are two of the bigger names in sport. Torres and a noname guy is no comparison,, Go see how much Pacquiao vs Cotto or Mayweather vs Marquez tix go for. See how packed the crowd is for that fight. Thats a fair comparison, not two no name guys comapred to two top guns..  Boxing is fine. The welterweight division is great.. Only Heavyweights lack at this time
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    the comparison u made is ridic. Ur comparing Rampage vs Forest Griffin who are two of the bigger names in sport. Torres and a noname guy is no comparison,, Go see how much Pacquiao vs Cotto or Mayweather vs Marquez tix go for. See how packed the crowd is for that fight. Thats a fair comparison, not two no name guys comapred to two top guns..  Boxing is fine. The welterweight division is great.. Only Heavyweights lack at this time
     
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2009 - 10:58 PM ET #3

    I disagree that MMA has passed it. I love watching both

    I think a lot of MMA fans are Johnny Come Lately  Tapout T shirt wearing wannabe douchers and to me a lot of them have no clue about the ins and outs of the sport, they boo once a fight goes to the ground, they cry fix when Anderson Silva annihilates Forrest Griffin etc.

    I think boxing may be in a lull but watch the buzz and the crowds for Manny-Cotto or the just announced Paul Williams-Kelly Pavlik fight..or the Klitschko brothers over in Europe are friggin huge.

    I think the MMA people like to hype that they are passing boxing but honestly i disagree and like I said I love watching both sports. You get another heavyweight guy like a Tyson in there who crosses over and grabs "manistream" people and boxing will be back..not as big as it was but I dont think its going anywhere

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    I disagree that MMA has passed it. I love watching both

    I think a lot of MMA fans are Johnny Come Lately  Tapout T shirt wearing wannabe douchers and to me a lot of them have no clue about the ins and outs of the sport, they boo once a fight goes to the ground, they cry fix when Anderson Silva annihilates Forrest Griffin etc.

    I think boxing may be in a lull but watch the buzz and the crowds for Manny-Cotto or the just announced Paul Williams-Kelly Pavlik fight..or the Klitschko brothers over in Europe are friggin huge.

    I think the MMA people like to hype that they are passing boxing but honestly i disagree and like I said I love watching both sports. You get another heavyweight guy like a Tyson in there who crosses over and grabs "manistream" people and boxing will be back..not as big as it was but I dont think its going anywhere

     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2009 - 7:45 AM ET #5

    IMO: Boxing still rules. But there's plenty of room for MMA, too.
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    IMO: Boxing still rules. But there's plenty of room for MMA, too.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 12, 2009 - 10:07 AM ET #6

    Floyd vs. JMM
    Pac vs. Cotto
    Pavlik vs. PW
    Froch vs. Dirrell
    Kessler vs. Ward
    Taylor vs. Abraham
    Klitschko vs. Arreola
    Haye Vs. Valuev
    C Dawson Vs. G. Johnson
    Klit vs. Chambers
    Bute vs. Andrade
     
    Its a great fall to be a boxing fan. Can't remember a time I've been this excited about the coming matchups. If they keep making the fights people wanna see, it will start to comeback and this fall is a great start.
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    Floyd vs. JMM
    Pac vs. Cotto
    Pavlik vs. PW
    Froch vs. Dirrell
    Kessler vs. Ward
    Taylor vs. Abraham
    Klitschko vs. Arreola
    Haye Vs. Valuev
    C Dawson Vs. G. Johnson
    Klit vs. Chambers
    Bute vs. Andrade
     
    Its a great fall to be a boxing fan. Can't remember a time I've been this excited about the coming matchups. If they keep making the fights people wanna see, it will start to comeback and this fall is a great start.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2009 - 4:41 AM ET #8

    Diaz Malignaggi is also interesting  even though its not a great fight
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    Diaz Malignaggi is also interesting  even though its not a great fight
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2009 - 12:08 PM ET #9

    I don't think boxing is going to die soon.
     
    Boxing gives a longer spectacle, and more established champions.
     
    To many people, MMA contains to much of a luck factor and it doesn't seem a proper contest because of this.
     
    If worse comes to worse, boxing will revert to a smaller glove, which I think would not be a bad thing.
     
    A small glove = puncher gloves = more KO's and less hiding behind a turtle guard like Winky Wright, Clottey, Kotelnik.
     
    Using judges and referees from a third party or other "fair" source might help too, but then again maybe it has little effect on the ticket sales.
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    I don't think boxing is going to die soon.
     
    Boxing gives a longer spectacle, and more established champions.
     
    To many people, MMA contains to much of a luck factor and it doesn't seem a proper contest because of this.
     
    If worse comes to worse, boxing will revert to a smaller glove, which I think would not be a bad thing.
     
    A small glove = puncher gloves = more KO's and less hiding behind a turtle guard like Winky Wright, Clottey, Kotelnik.
     
    Using judges and referees from a third party or other "fair" source might help too, but then again maybe it has little effect on the ticket sales.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2009 - 1:12 PM ET #10

    MMA......... CHOKEHOLD THESE NUTS !!! ......BOXING IS ALIVE & KICKIN' ASS
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    MMA......... CHOKEHOLD THESE NUTS !!! ......BOXING IS ALIVE & KICKIN' ASS
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dajizzman23:

    the comparison u made is ridic. Ur comparing Rampage vs Forest Griffin who are two of the bigger names in sport. Torres and a noname guy is no comparison,, Go see how much Pacquiao vs Cotto or Mayweather vs Marquez tix go for. See how packed the crowd is for that fight. Thats a fair comparison, not two no name guys comapred to two top guns..  Boxing is fine. The welterweight division is great.. Only Heavyweights lack at this time
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    the comparison u made is ridic. Ur comparing Rampage vs Forest Griffin who are two of the bigger names in sport. Torres and a noname guy is no comparison,, Go see how much Pacquiao vs Cotto or Mayweather vs Marquez tix go for. See how packed the crowd is for that fight. Thats a fair comparison, not two no name guys comapred to two top guns..  Boxing is fine. The welterweight division is great.. Only Heavyweights lack at this time
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    Quote Originally Posted by morbe290:

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