Dudes, I will be back towards fight time with a big writeup but my 80% of my Summer dollars (lets f*%*&ing have em) are going on Amir Khan. Kotelnik is tailor made for Khan. He is not a banger and while he can box he is up against a guy with superior hand speed and height and reach. Frank Warren is a genuis. Get Khan out of the lightweight division where he cant beat the likes of Marquez etc and put him in the ring against a good but VERY beatable fighter in Kotelnik.
I have put on a huge bet on this..130k to won 80k. I truly believe this to be the bargin of the summer. If I lose, well (unless Federer wins Sunday, see my Tennis picks) then it hurts. BUT! I am sure of Khan as I am of Federer. I am a professional gambler its what I do. I give you winners...Take them and lets make money
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Dudes, I will be back towards fight time with a big writeup but my 80% of my Summer dollars (lets f*%*&ing have em) are going on Amir Khan. Kotelnik is tailor made for Khan. He is not a banger and while he can box he is up against a guy with superior hand speed and height and reach. Frank Warren is a genuis. Get Khan out of the lightweight division where he cant beat the likes of Marquez etc and put him in the ring against a good but VERY beatable fighter in Kotelnik.
I have put on a huge bet on this..130k to won 80k. I truly believe this to be the bargin of the summer. If I lose, well (unless Federer wins Sunday, see my Tennis picks) then it hurts. BUT! I am sure of Khan as I am of Federer. I am a professional gambler its what I do. I give you winners...Take them and lets make money
Dudes, I will be back towards fight time with a big writeup but my 80% of my Summer dollars (lets f*%*&ing have em) are going on Amir Khan. Kotelnik is tailor made for Khan. He is not a banger and while he can box he is up against a guy with superior hand speed and height and reach. Frank Warren is a genuis. Get Khan out of the lightweight division where he cant beat the likes of Marquez etc and put him in the ring against a good but VERY beatable fighter in Kotelnik.
I have put on a huge bet on this..130k to won 80k. I truly believe this to be the bargin of the summer. If I lose, well (unless Federer wins Sunday, see my Tennis picks) then it hurts. BUT! I am sure of Khan as I am of Federer. I am a professional gambler its what I do. I give you winners...Take them and lets make money
i agree......the 4 team parlay of federer, roddick, and the williams was the easiest payout ever....too bad roddick gets killed..
khan kills kotenlik....khan isnt madiana......khan actually has boxing skills......if ortiz had any he would be up still
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Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:
Dudes, I will be back towards fight time with a big writeup but my 80% of my Summer dollars (lets f*%*&ing have em) are going on Amir Khan. Kotelnik is tailor made for Khan. He is not a banger and while he can box he is up against a guy with superior hand speed and height and reach. Frank Warren is a genuis. Get Khan out of the lightweight division where he cant beat the likes of Marquez etc and put him in the ring against a good but VERY beatable fighter in Kotelnik.
I have put on a huge bet on this..130k to won 80k. I truly believe this to be the bargin of the summer. If I lose, well (unless Federer wins Sunday, see my Tennis picks) then it hurts. BUT! I am sure of Khan as I am of Federer. I am a professional gambler its what I do. I give you winners...Take them and lets make money
i agree......the 4 team parlay of federer, roddick, and the williams was the easiest payout ever....too bad roddick gets killed..
khan kills kotenlik....khan isnt madiana......khan actually has boxing skills......if ortiz had any he would be up still
Cee Money it really was. No Nadal, which means you have Del Petro, Hewitt, Murray and Roddick in the top half. I thought Simon might get to last 8. Then I had Berydch to cover Roddick just in case. I knew Murray is AT least 2 years away from a Wimbledon final. My only regret is that I didnt put more on Fed. Anyway...if Khan loses then i will be down 30k, but I am more sure of Khan then Fed. If they both lose...man back to Stock Broking..Man I don't want the 100 hour weeks anymore!
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Cee Money it really was. No Nadal, which means you have Del Petro, Hewitt, Murray and Roddick in the top half. I thought Simon might get to last 8. Then I had Berydch to cover Roddick just in case. I knew Murray is AT least 2 years away from a Wimbledon final. My only regret is that I didnt put more on Fed. Anyway...if Khan loses then i will be down 30k, but I am more sure of Khan then Fed. If they both lose...man back to Stock Broking..Man I don't want the 100 hour weeks anymore!
Cee Money it really was. No Nadal, which means you have Del Petro, Hewitt, Murray and Roddick in the top half. I thought Simon might get to last 8. Then I had Berydch to cover Roddick just in case. I knew Murray is AT least 2 years away from a Wimbledon final. My only regret is that I didnt put more on Fed. Anyway...if Khan loses then i will be down 30k, but I am more sure of Khan then Fed. If they both lose...man back to Stock Broking..Man I don't want the 100 hour weeks anymore!
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Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:
Cee Money it really was. No Nadal, which means you have Del Petro, Hewitt, Murray and Roddick in the top half. I thought Simon might get to last 8. Then I had Berydch to cover Roddick just in case. I knew Murray is AT least 2 years away from a Wimbledon final. My only regret is that I didnt put more on Fed. Anyway...if Khan loses then i will be down 30k, but I am more sure of Khan then Fed. If they both lose...man back to Stock Broking..Man I don't want the 100 hour weeks anymore!
Dudes, I will be back towards fight time with a big writeup but my 80% of my Summer dollars (lets f*%*&ing have em) are going on Amir Khan. Kotelnik is tailor made for Khan. He is not a banger and while he can box he is up against a guy with superior hand speed and height and reach. Frank Warren is a genuis. Get Khan out of the lightweight division where he cant beat the likes of Marquez etc and put him in the ring against a good but VERY beatable fighter in Kotelnik.
I have put on a huge bet on this..130k to won 80k. I truly believe this to be the bargin of the summer. If I lose, well (unless Federer wins Sunday, see my Tennis picks) then it hurts. BUT! I am sure of Khan as I am of Federer. I am a professional gambler its what I do. I give you winners...Take them and lets make money
Which book
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Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:
Dudes, I will be back towards fight time with a big writeup but my 80% of my Summer dollars (lets f*%*&ing have em) are going on Amir Khan. Kotelnik is tailor made for Khan. He is not a banger and while he can box he is up against a guy with superior hand speed and height and reach. Frank Warren is a genuis. Get Khan out of the lightweight division where he cant beat the likes of Marquez etc and put him in the ring against a good but VERY beatable fighter in Kotelnik.
I have put on a huge bet on this..130k to won 80k. I truly believe this to be the bargin of the summer. If I lose, well (unless Federer wins Sunday, see my Tennis picks) then it hurts. BUT! I am sure of Khan as I am of Federer. I am a professional gambler its what I do. I give you winners...Take them and lets make money
i was loving the thick, big breast williams today...I saw your posts and thought to myself why dont i just bet it...i did....won $800...thanks for the output...
i couldn't understand why everyone loved venus, honestly i think if it wasnt for daddy, serena would of kicked her ass even more in head to head matches
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i was loving the thick, big breast williams today...I saw your posts and thought to myself why dont i just bet it...i did....won $800...thanks for the output...
i couldn't understand why everyone loved venus, honestly i think if it wasnt for daddy, serena would of kicked her ass even more in head to head matches
Cee Money I loved Serena in that spot..I really did. Glad I could help. If Fed wins tomorrow will be up over 80k on Wimbledon (I posted my picks pre tiurney so you cant stay the value wasn't there). Anyway Khan is no Pacman but Kotelnick is overmatched here. I saw a easy points win for Khan..
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Cee Money I loved Serena in that spot..I really did. Glad I could help. If Fed wins tomorrow will be up over 80k on Wimbledon (I posted my picks pre tiurney so you cant stay the value wasn't there). Anyway Khan is no Pacman but Kotelnick is overmatched here. I saw a easy points win for Khan..
Cee Money I loved Serena in that spot..I really did. Glad I could help. If Fed wins tomorrow will be up over 80k on Wimbledon (I posted my picks pre tiurney so you cant stay the value wasn't there). Anyway Khan is no Pacman but Kotelnick is overmatched here. I saw a easy points win for Khan..
nice hit on wimbleton even though u were proabley sweating balls....before the match the only vaule i saw was the over or federer not to win 3-0......you swept it up man congrats
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Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:
Cee Money I loved Serena in that spot..I really did. Glad I could help. If Fed wins tomorrow will be up over 80k on Wimbledon (I posted my picks pre tiurney so you cant stay the value wasn't there). Anyway Khan is no Pacman but Kotelnick is overmatched here. I saw a easy points win for Khan..
nice hit on wimbleton even though u were proabley sweating balls....before the match the only vaule i saw was the over or federer not to win 3-0......you swept it up man congrats
I like Khan in this spot too. His big weakness is obviously his chin which I don't think that Kotelnik will be able to exploit. I'm thinking of linking him with Vic this Saturday who's available at a surprisingly low -300. A parlay with those 2 makes it about even money. Maybe I'll even throw Adamek in to make it even a little more profitable.
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I like Khan in this spot too. His big weakness is obviously his chin which I don't think that Kotelnik will be able to exploit. I'm thinking of linking him with Vic this Saturday who's available at a surprisingly low -300. A parlay with those 2 makes it about even money. Maybe I'll even throw Adamek in to make it even a little more profitable.
Dudes, I will be back towards fight time with a big writeup but my 80% of my Summer dollars (lets f*%*&ing have em) are going on Amir Khan. Kotelnik is tailor made for Khan. He is not a banger and while he can box he is up against a guy with superior hand speed and height and reach. Frank Warren is a genuis. Get Khan out of the lightweight division where he cant beat the likes of Marquez etc and put him in the ring against a good but VERY beatable fighter in Kotelnik.
I have put on a huge bet on this..130k to won 80k. I truly believe this to be the bargin of the summer. If I lose, well (unless Federer wins Sunday, see my Tennis picks) then it hurts. BUT! I am sure of Khan as I am of Federer. I am a professional gambler its what I do. I give you winners...Take them and lets make money
Which book? I may tail you
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Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:
Dudes, I will be back towards fight time with a big writeup but my 80% of my Summer dollars (lets f*%*&ing have em) are going on Amir Khan. Kotelnik is tailor made for Khan. He is not a banger and while he can box he is up against a guy with superior hand speed and height and reach. Frank Warren is a genuis. Get Khan out of the lightweight division where he cant beat the likes of Marquez etc and put him in the ring against a good but VERY beatable fighter in Kotelnik.
I have put on a huge bet on this..130k to won 80k. I truly believe this to be the bargin of the summer. If I lose, well (unless Federer wins Sunday, see my Tennis picks) then it hurts. BUT! I am sure of Khan as I am of Federer. I am a professional gambler its what I do. I give you winners...Take them and lets make money
Dude you can't put this kind of bets on over the net (If you can I don't know where). Had to organise a meeting with Bank Manager, have him accompany me to Ladbrokes who knew I was coming in advance. Had to sign a thrillion documents and then placed the bet. About 50 minutes after I placed the bet the odds went 8/13 to 4/9 . Listen no bet is a certainty and this is by no means either. You just have to use your knowledge best you can and be willing to lose. I never recommend anyone go all in and risk more then they can afford. That is a sure fire way to go broke. I mean look at Federer. That whole gig nearly cost me 92k! So always be careful. Betting Favourites is a tough business..So Eric as always I urge caution.
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Dude you can't put this kind of bets on over the net (If you can I don't know where). Had to organise a meeting with Bank Manager, have him accompany me to Ladbrokes who knew I was coming in advance. Had to sign a thrillion documents and then placed the bet. About 50 minutes after I placed the bet the odds went 8/13 to 4/9 . Listen no bet is a certainty and this is by no means either. You just have to use your knowledge best you can and be willing to lose. I never recommend anyone go all in and risk more then they can afford. That is a sure fire way to go broke. I mean look at Federer. That whole gig nearly cost me 92k! So always be careful. Betting Favourites is a tough business..So Eric as always I urge caution.
Kotelnik's not a banger, but he hits harder than Willie Limond or Michael Gomez who both badly hurt Khan. And I still can't shake the image of Khan getting rocked by Prescott's jab. Risky bet imo.
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Kotelnik's not a banger, but he hits harder than Willie Limond or Michael Gomez who both badly hurt Khan. And I still can't shake the image of Khan getting rocked by Prescott's jab. Risky bet imo.
Kotelnik's not a banger, but he hits harder than Willie Limond or Michael Gomez who both badly hurt Khan. And I still can't shake the image of Khan getting rocked by Prescott's jab. Risky bet imo.
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Quote Originally Posted by Atmanne:
Kotelnik's not a banger, but he hits harder than Willie Limond or Michael Gomez who both badly hurt Khan. And I still can't shake the image of Khan getting rocked by Prescott's jab. Risky bet imo.
I tailed you with Serena, and hopping on the Khan train now. Do you bet MMA as well, Mack05?I remember you saying something about the GSP/Alves fight a week or two ago which is why I ask. Best wishes, mate.
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I tailed you with Serena, and hopping on the Khan train now. Do you bet MMA as well, Mack05?I remember you saying something about the GSP/Alves fight a week or two ago which is why I ask. Best wishes, mate.
Wow money really coming for Khan...When I first posted this he was 8/13 now trading at 4/11..
"Amir Khan has been backed into 4/11 (from 1/2) with Coral ahead of his WBA light-welterweight title challenge in Manchester on Saturday.
The Bolton bomber was originally an 8/13 chance when the fight was announced a couple of months ago and backed into 1/2 after opponent Andreas Kotelnik moved the fight back after suffering with a tooth infection.
Coral spokesman Gary Burton said: "Punters see only one outcome on Saturday. The 8/13 Khan was snapped up weeks ago, and all the money in the fight since has gone the same way.
"He is already a poor result and if, as punters expect, he becomes a world champion on Saturday night, it will be an expensive night."
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Wow money really coming for Khan...When I first posted this he was 8/13 now trading at 4/11..
"Amir Khan has been backed into 4/11 (from 1/2) with Coral ahead of his WBA light-welterweight title challenge in Manchester on Saturday.
The Bolton bomber was originally an 8/13 chance when the fight was announced a couple of months ago and backed into 1/2 after opponent Andreas Kotelnik moved the fight back after suffering with a tooth infection.
Coral spokesman Gary Burton said: "Punters see only one outcome on Saturday. The 8/13 Khan was snapped up weeks ago, and all the money in the fight since has gone the same way.
"He is already a poor result and if, as punters expect, he becomes a world champion on Saturday night, it will be an expensive night."
I hope you win. It would suck to lose 130,000 peanuts but when you're betting heavy favorites, you really shouldn't pat yourself on the back too hard, should you??
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I hope you win. It would suck to lose 130,000 peanuts but when you're betting heavy favorites, you really shouldn't pat yourself on the back too hard, should you??
Esplanade I will pat myself considering I took the Opening pirice of 8/13, posted it here as soon as I did and the price is now 4/11.
Lets call a spade a spade. 8/13 (-170 roughly) is NOT a heavy Favourite. He is a reasonably heavy favourite now but I believed in my convictions and took a far better price so if it comes off I will pat myself on the back!
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Esplanade I will pat myself considering I took the Opening pirice of 8/13, posted it here as soon as I did and the price is now 4/11.
Lets call a spade a spade. 8/13 (-170 roughly) is NOT a heavy Favourite. He is a reasonably heavy favourite now but I believed in my convictions and took a far better price so if it comes off I will pat myself on the back!
Ok Guys here is the writeup. If you didn't take the price when I first posted, I still would recommend unloading as much as you can on the 4/11.. Below is why..
Amir Khan bids to complete a truly remarkable transformation when he meets Andreas Kotelnik for the WBA light-welterweight title in Manchester on Saturday night. Within the space of 12 months Khan has gone from pugilistic palooka to possible champion of the world and if he can get the better of Ukraine stylist Kotelnik at the MEN Arena this weekend he will finally realise his boyhood dream. Last September Khan's dreams were shattered by the brutal fists of Breidis Prescott, who stopped the Bolton prodigy in just 54 seconds in the very ring where Saturday's drama will be played out. Critics were queuing up after that KO defeat to write Khan's ring obituary despite his tender years. 'No chin, no defence, no chance' they crowed in the days after Prescott. However to his eternal credit Khan has rebuilt with two good wins since, including a fine taming of Mexican legend Marco Antonio Barrera last time out and as a result he finds himself on the cusp of world title glory. He's moving up in weight (from 135 to 140lbs) to have a crack at the more experienced Kotelnik but despite this there has been plenty of money for Khan to get the job done (he opened up at 8/13 with some layers but is as short as 1/3 in places now). Kotelnik is well known to fans this side of the pond having boxed in the UK. Like Khan he is an Olympic silver medallist at lightweight (Sydney 2000) and European fans will remember him from bouts against Junior Witter, Souley M'Baye and Gavin Rees. He lost a disputed decision to Witter in Nottingham in 2005 and two years later was held to a draw by M'baye in Liverpool (in a fight many observers had him winning handily). But he made it third time lucky on UK soil when he out-pointed Rees for the WBA belt in March 2008.
He's made two defences since then including a hugely impressive points win over Marcos Maidana last time out. Maidana was last seen icing top US prospect 'Vicious' Victor Ortiz and so the fact that Kotelnik holds a win over the Argentine should tell us plenty about his ability. He boxes out of a classic European style. He's very upright and spears out a fine jab through a tight defence. In 34 fights he's never been stopped which suggests his chin is pretty decent. Indeed Khan himself conceded this week that he doesn't see the fight ending via an early KO. Speaking at a press conference on Thursday he said "It's going to be a skilful fight, more about technique, and I don't think it's going to finish early." Nor do I. I envisage a chess match early on as both men try to take control of the bout from ring centre. The jury is still out on Khan's chin but I don't think Kotelnik has the power to trouble Amir (his KO ratio is less than 40%) and that could ultimately be his downfall on the night. Khan is one of the fastest, most dynamic fighters in the game and looks a fighter reborn under Freddie Roach. I can see him trying to dazzle his eastern European opponent with those flashy, accurate combinations and though he may have to survive one of two rocky moments himself I see him doing enough to earn a unanimous decision win. So if you looking for value that might be the way to go.
However, I do not like or recommend beating on methods of victory. I believed that day when I saw Khan win silver in Athens, with the right guidance this guy would be a world champion. He has got the right fight, against the right opponent and he fights on home turf. If you haven't done so already unload. You won't regret it...
5 Star bet. Amir Khan to win.
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Ok Guys here is the writeup. If you didn't take the price when I first posted, I still would recommend unloading as much as you can on the 4/11.. Below is why..
Amir Khan bids to complete a truly remarkable transformation when he meets Andreas Kotelnik for the WBA light-welterweight title in Manchester on Saturday night. Within the space of 12 months Khan has gone from pugilistic palooka to possible champion of the world and if he can get the better of Ukraine stylist Kotelnik at the MEN Arena this weekend he will finally realise his boyhood dream. Last September Khan's dreams were shattered by the brutal fists of Breidis Prescott, who stopped the Bolton prodigy in just 54 seconds in the very ring where Saturday's drama will be played out. Critics were queuing up after that KO defeat to write Khan's ring obituary despite his tender years. 'No chin, no defence, no chance' they crowed in the days after Prescott. However to his eternal credit Khan has rebuilt with two good wins since, including a fine taming of Mexican legend Marco Antonio Barrera last time out and as a result he finds himself on the cusp of world title glory. He's moving up in weight (from 135 to 140lbs) to have a crack at the more experienced Kotelnik but despite this there has been plenty of money for Khan to get the job done (he opened up at 8/13 with some layers but is as short as 1/3 in places now). Kotelnik is well known to fans this side of the pond having boxed in the UK. Like Khan he is an Olympic silver medallist at lightweight (Sydney 2000) and European fans will remember him from bouts against Junior Witter, Souley M'Baye and Gavin Rees. He lost a disputed decision to Witter in Nottingham in 2005 and two years later was held to a draw by M'baye in Liverpool (in a fight many observers had him winning handily). But he made it third time lucky on UK soil when he out-pointed Rees for the WBA belt in March 2008.
He's made two defences since then including a hugely impressive points win over Marcos Maidana last time out. Maidana was last seen icing top US prospect 'Vicious' Victor Ortiz and so the fact that Kotelnik holds a win over the Argentine should tell us plenty about his ability. He boxes out of a classic European style. He's very upright and spears out a fine jab through a tight defence. In 34 fights he's never been stopped which suggests his chin is pretty decent. Indeed Khan himself conceded this week that he doesn't see the fight ending via an early KO. Speaking at a press conference on Thursday he said "It's going to be a skilful fight, more about technique, and I don't think it's going to finish early." Nor do I. I envisage a chess match early on as both men try to take control of the bout from ring centre. The jury is still out on Khan's chin but I don't think Kotelnik has the power to trouble Amir (his KO ratio is less than 40%) and that could ultimately be his downfall on the night. Khan is one of the fastest, most dynamic fighters in the game and looks a fighter reborn under Freddie Roach. I can see him trying to dazzle his eastern European opponent with those flashy, accurate combinations and though he may have to survive one of two rocky moments himself I see him doing enough to earn a unanimous decision win. So if you looking for value that might be the way to go.
However, I do not like or recommend beating on methods of victory. I believed that day when I saw Khan win silver in Athens, with the right guidance this guy would be a world champion. He has got the right fight, against the right opponent and he fights on home turf. If you haven't done so already unload. You won't regret it...
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