January 30, 2014
Barclays Center
Brooklyn, NY
Fox Sports 1
I have not yet found any odds posted for this fight. Is this fight still happening? If yes, do any sportsbooks have odds available?
January 30, 2014
Barclays Center
Brooklyn, NY
Fox Sports 1
I have not yet found any odds posted for this fight. Is this fight still happening? If yes, do any sportsbooks have odds available?
January 30, 2014
Barclays Center
Brooklyn, NY
Fox Sports 1
I have not yet found any odds posted for this fight. Is this fight still happening? If yes, do any sportsbooks have odds available?
I realize this is not ground breaking news but I find his constant ranting comical.
When asked about a potential match-up against Alvarez, Ortiz’ answer was straight to the point.
“Absolutely, why not? I already said it, 147 or 154, when I’m back opponents are done. I’m hungry, very hungry. “
When tasked with choosing a victor between the two it was clear that the Maidana loss stills resonates with Ortiz.
“It’s a no brainer, bro. Hands down, Broner. That fight’s a joke. I mean, what Maidana did with me, if you go back and watch the replay of my fight with Maidana, I walked straight into a straight-right. Big deal. I got up, I didn’t remember getting up, but I fought him for six rounds like that, on auto-pilot and I was still whoopin’ that behind. So, you be the judge, but Broner hands down, no big deal.”
“Just pay attention on January 30th, and you’re gonna see my opponents are in trouble.”
The above information (in blue and red) was provided by “Tha Boxing Voice” on
That’s very boisterous for a guy with a fighting heart smaller than a pea.
In 2009 he came in highly touted against Maidana, and although ahead 48-45 on all three judges scorecards, he was hurt in the 6th round and quit.
After winning a great fight against Andre Berto in 2011, fans believed he proved his worth.
Later in 2011 he fought Mayweather, and he showed his true colors in a cowardly intentional head-butt and then the hands down knockdown followed by bad acting. Another quit in a championship fight.
In a 2012 championship bout he was physically destroying Josesito Lopez and ahead on all three scorecards but got his jaw broke in the 9th round and no surprise that he quit again. That’s THREE quits. I could understand the broken jaw, but his previous performances showed he’s a quitter when it gets rough.
It’s hard to call any pro fighter a quitter because of the grit it takes to be one, but Victor Ortiz has proved what he is.
Does anyone object?
All opinions are warmly welcomed.
I realize this is not ground breaking news but I find his constant ranting comical.
When asked about a potential match-up against Alvarez, Ortiz’ answer was straight to the point.
“Absolutely, why not? I already said it, 147 or 154, when I’m back opponents are done. I’m hungry, very hungry. “
When tasked with choosing a victor between the two it was clear that the Maidana loss stills resonates with Ortiz.
“It’s a no brainer, bro. Hands down, Broner. That fight’s a joke. I mean, what Maidana did with me, if you go back and watch the replay of my fight with Maidana, I walked straight into a straight-right. Big deal. I got up, I didn’t remember getting up, but I fought him for six rounds like that, on auto-pilot and I was still whoopin’ that behind. So, you be the judge, but Broner hands down, no big deal.”
“Just pay attention on January 30th, and you’re gonna see my opponents are in trouble.”
The above information (in blue and red) was provided by “Tha Boxing Voice” on
That’s very boisterous for a guy with a fighting heart smaller than a pea.
In 2009 he came in highly touted against Maidana, and although ahead 48-45 on all three judges scorecards, he was hurt in the 6th round and quit.
After winning a great fight against Andre Berto in 2011, fans believed he proved his worth.
Later in 2011 he fought Mayweather, and he showed his true colors in a cowardly intentional head-butt and then the hands down knockdown followed by bad acting. Another quit in a championship fight.
In a 2012 championship bout he was physically destroying Josesito Lopez and ahead on all three scorecards but got his jaw broke in the 9th round and no surprise that he quit again. That’s THREE quits. I could understand the broken jaw, but his previous performances showed he’s a quitter when it gets rough.
It’s hard to call any pro fighter a quitter because of the grit it takes to be one, but Victor Ortiz has proved what he is.
Does anyone object?
All opinions are warmly welcomed.
I was hoping to hear off any odds available, but it appears not likely. Also, apparently the boxing forum here must have had enough of Victor Ortiz, or (me) my article, the match, a few of the previous, or all the previous. LOL!
Anyone that sees any odds available, a reply would be much appreciated. Thanks Again!
BTW - It appears the Cover's Boxing Forum has diminished and lost many handicappers that posted years ago according to what I've read in posts lately, and also I don't recognize any names from years ago except for the one post "Whatever Happened to these guys ?" by MIXED_NUTS ! Your post was good MIXED_NUTS as it did show that many still view, but rarely post. I've always read since day one, but never posted here.
I was hoping to hear off any odds available, but it appears not likely. Also, apparently the boxing forum here must have had enough of Victor Ortiz, or (me) my article, the match, a few of the previous, or all the previous. LOL!
Anyone that sees any odds available, a reply would be much appreciated. Thanks Again!
BTW - It appears the Cover's Boxing Forum has diminished and lost many handicappers that posted years ago according to what I've read in posts lately, and also I don't recognize any names from years ago except for the one post "Whatever Happened to these guys ?" by MIXED_NUTS ! Your post was good MIXED_NUTS as it did show that many still view, but rarely post. I've always read since day one, but never posted here.
Tough fight to pick. Ortiz has had some odd ring moments thus far in his career. While Collazo is somewhat of an enigma. But if, and it's a big IF, if Ortiz is right, he can fight with power AND speed. And it will be too much for Collazo to handle.
Collazo to win
Straddled with Ortiz by KO.
Tough fight to pick. Ortiz has had some odd ring moments thus far in his career. While Collazo is somewhat of an enigma. But if, and it's a big IF, if Ortiz is right, he can fight with power AND speed. And it will be too much for Collazo to handle.
Collazo to win
Straddled with Ortiz by KO.
Yet another odd ring moment for our boy Victor. I rarely straddle but because of his anamolous career felt it was appropriate this particular time.
Yet another odd ring moment for our boy Victor. I rarely straddle but because of his anamolous career felt it was appropriate this particular time.
Thanks LRM704 and others for the support. My apologies for not following up posts prior to the fights as the week was unexpectedly busy.
My pre-fight analysis similair as others, but my final analysis prior to the fight was such.
Here we have two fighters that are quite the opposite in most aspects. Collazo, an aged fighter with grit and some previously losses that were vicious has succeeded so long as he a true fighters heart, but does lack the physical attributes needed to beat top level fighters.
He has much experience and it might serve him well in the fight. Looking at the physical dynamics, Ortiz who seems to quit at the first sign of difficulties, has made it on pure physical skills, and his speed and power will be overwhelming to Collazo. One thing I remember, being around trainers, fighters, etc... there was a common motto.
We can make you faster, stronger and teach you how to fight, the one ingredient we cannot give you is heart. That really sat with me considering Ortiz and his previous performances. People that are not experienced in such think a man with skills of destruction psyches fighters out more than anything.
Although it is true it is much more intimidating when you give an opponents everything you got for several rounds, and he is up ready to go for next round starts. Fighters with heart continue even though it is an intimidating and humbling experience.
Ortiz lacks that heart in every manner. Had the fight been +300 or more, I would have gone small with Collazo as I know he comes to fight, but I was uncertain of his match-up with physical skills.I had concern if a cut or swelling started early on Collazo, Ortiz would have the much needed confidence to finish or wait out a stoppage.
I held off and have yet to watch the fight, but I have read the posts. As I stated, Ortiz quits, and his boasting of fighters to be weary only proves his lack of confidence in himself as real fighters speak in the ring, he was doing all of it outside the ring He quits, that's all he shown previously, and apparently again.
I have been reading this forum since its inception, but had yet to post. Good luck and thanks again everyone for the support and the welcomes to the forum.
Thanks LRM704 and others for the support. My apologies for not following up posts prior to the fights as the week was unexpectedly busy.
My pre-fight analysis similair as others, but my final analysis prior to the fight was such.
Here we have two fighters that are quite the opposite in most aspects. Collazo, an aged fighter with grit and some previously losses that were vicious has succeeded so long as he a true fighters heart, but does lack the physical attributes needed to beat top level fighters.
He has much experience and it might serve him well in the fight. Looking at the physical dynamics, Ortiz who seems to quit at the first sign of difficulties, has made it on pure physical skills, and his speed and power will be overwhelming to Collazo. One thing I remember, being around trainers, fighters, etc... there was a common motto.
We can make you faster, stronger and teach you how to fight, the one ingredient we cannot give you is heart. That really sat with me considering Ortiz and his previous performances. People that are not experienced in such think a man with skills of destruction psyches fighters out more than anything.
Although it is true it is much more intimidating when you give an opponents everything you got for several rounds, and he is up ready to go for next round starts. Fighters with heart continue even though it is an intimidating and humbling experience.
Ortiz lacks that heart in every manner. Had the fight been +300 or more, I would have gone small with Collazo as I know he comes to fight, but I was uncertain of his match-up with physical skills.I had concern if a cut or swelling started early on Collazo, Ortiz would have the much needed confidence to finish or wait out a stoppage.
I held off and have yet to watch the fight, but I have read the posts. As I stated, Ortiz quits, and his boasting of fighters to be weary only proves his lack of confidence in himself as real fighters speak in the ring, he was doing all of it outside the ring He quits, that's all he shown previously, and apparently again.
I have been reading this forum since its inception, but had yet to post. Good luck and thanks again everyone for the support and the welcomes to the forum.
I was hoping to hear off any odds available, but it appears not likely. Also, apparently the boxing forum here must have had enough of Victor Ortiz, or (me) my article, the match, a few of the previous, or all the previous. LOL!
Anyone that sees any odds available, a reply would be much appreciated. Thanks Agai
BTW - It appears the Cover's Boxing Forum has diminished and lost many handicappers that posted years ago according to what I've read in posts lately, and also I don't recognize any names from years ago except for the one post "Whatever Happened to these guys ?" by MIXED_NUTS ! Your post was good MIXED_NUTS as it did show that many still view, but rarely post. I've always read since day one, but never posted here.
I think you posted on here under a different name. Just my opinion.....
I was hoping to hear off any odds available, but it appears not likely. Also, apparently the boxing forum here must have had enough of Victor Ortiz, or (me) my article, the match, a few of the previous, or all the previous. LOL!
Anyone that sees any odds available, a reply would be much appreciated. Thanks Agai
BTW - It appears the Cover's Boxing Forum has diminished and lost many handicappers that posted years ago according to what I've read in posts lately, and also I don't recognize any names from years ago except for the one post "Whatever Happened to these guys ?" by MIXED_NUTS ! Your post was good MIXED_NUTS as it did show that many still view, but rarely post. I've always read since day one, but never posted here.
I think you posted on here under a different name. Just my opinion.....
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