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    DannoDanger
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2010 - 7:23 PM ET #1

    Two plays so far:

    - Molina (+185) risking .8 to win 1.48

    - Jones ITD (-390) + Donaire ITD (-247) risking 2 to win 1.53

     

     

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    Two plays so far:

    - Molina (+185) risking .8 to win 1.48

    - Jones ITD (-390) + Donaire ITD (-247) risking 2 to win 1.53

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2010 - 7:33 PM ET #2

    Why Molina ? I played Lundy. I think he's too fast for Molina and will cruise to a decision and long as he doesnt get caught with a big shot
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    Why Molina ? I played Lundy. I think he's too fast for Molina and will cruise to a decision and long as he doesnt get caught with a big shot
     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2010 - 7:55 PM ET #3

    Hank is the better boxer in this matchup, and seeing him outbox Molina wouldn't be a shock to me.  That being said, I think Molina will rough him up any way possible and hopefully take him out of his game.  He's a lot taller than him and he holds a significant edge in punching power.  I'm betting on Molina being able to wear him down. 

     

    I love Mike Jones.  I'm not just talking about this fight, but in general.  The odds are huge, so I'm not going to be making any big money on this fight, but I think he dominates this showcase tonight.   

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    Hank is the better boxer in this matchup, and seeing him outbox Molina wouldn't be a shock to me.  That being said, I think Molina will rough him up any way possible and hopefully take him out of his game.  He's a lot taller than him and he holds a significant edge in punching power.  I'm betting on Molina being able to wear him down. 

     

    I love Mike Jones.  I'm not just talking about this fight, but in general.  The odds are huge, so I'm not going to be making any big money on this fight, but I think he dominates this showcase tonight.   

     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2010 - 8:47 PM ET #4

    i think Lundy stinks
    I give Molina a shot
    good luck
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    i think Lundy stinks
    I give Molina a shot
    good luck
     
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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2010 - 8:51 AM ET #6

    Both shows last night were really good.  I was out last night, so I just watched them now.  Really entertaining stuff.  Some thoughts:

    - Tyner/Smith was a really good fight.  I just wanted to watch this fight without action on it, to see if Smith could really pose a challenge to Jones.  That fight appears to be up in smoke now, so it doesn't matter.  Once his eye got really bad, he was totally out of the fight mentally.  Tyner fought well and was relentless at the end.  Good win for him.

    - Jones looked tight for the first round of the fight, maybe some nerves showing.  He's a huge welterweight, and once he started throwing that right hand with conviction, it was only a matter of time.  It was an obvious low blow, and bad call on the KO, but Garcia wanted no more.  That was obvious as well.  He was beaten at that point, and he wasn't going to hear the next bell no matter what.  Jones is still rough in a few areas, but I like him a lot.

    - Even though Biosse won pretty comfortably in the FNF opener, it was a good scrap.  Teddy even dropped the 'call your friends' line on us.  He was right.  Good scrap, good crowd, good card.

    - People might criticize this stoppage, but I think it was good (and not just because I had Molina).  Lundy looked ready to go at the beginning of the round, when he was holding the ropes with his left while getting tagged.  When the fight was stopped, he wasn't throwing anything back, and he was getting tagged with clean, hard shots.  As Teddy and Joe said, once his shoulders sagged, the ref had to get in there.  If he didn't, Lundy would've been on his back anyway.  Sure Lundy was mildly complaining afterwards, but when he got dropped in the 8th, he was also complaining that it was a trip (which it wasn't).  He was hurt pretty bad and was going to get KO'd in this fight if the ref didn't jump in.  Lundy is too small and doesn't hit hard enough to be successful, IMO.  Stronger guys will walk through his punches for as long as it takes and eventually get to him.  He's been dropped a bunch of times, and I just don't see anything good in his future.  Molina is very tough and can crack.  That's enough to beat a lot of guys.  I didn't write him off after that loss to Honorio, and I think he can have a nice career.

     

    Tonight, I'm rolling with the Donaire ITD bet, and maybe something else later. 

     

     

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    Both shows last night were really good.  I was out last night, so I just watched them now.  Really entertaining stuff.  Some thoughts:

    - Tyner/Smith was a really good fight.  I just wanted to watch this fight without action on it, to see if Smith could really pose a challenge to Jones.  That fight appears to be up in smoke now, so it doesn't matter.  Once his eye got really bad, he was totally out of the fight mentally.  Tyner fought well and was relentless at the end.  Good win for him.

    - Jones looked tight for the first round of the fight, maybe some nerves showing.  He's a huge welterweight, and once he started throwing that right hand with conviction, it was only a matter of time.  It was an obvious low blow, and bad call on the KO, but Garcia wanted no more.  That was obvious as well.  He was beaten at that point, and he wasn't going to hear the next bell no matter what.  Jones is still rough in a few areas, but I like him a lot.

    - Even though Biosse won pretty comfortably in the FNF opener, it was a good scrap.  Teddy even dropped the 'call your friends' line on us.  He was right.  Good scrap, good crowd, good card.

    - People might criticize this stoppage, but I think it was good (and not just because I had Molina).  Lundy looked ready to go at the beginning of the round, when he was holding the ropes with his left while getting tagged.  When the fight was stopped, he wasn't throwing anything back, and he was getting tagged with clean, hard shots.  As Teddy and Joe said, once his shoulders sagged, the ref had to get in there.  If he didn't, Lundy would've been on his back anyway.  Sure Lundy was mildly complaining afterwards, but when he got dropped in the 8th, he was also complaining that it was a trip (which it wasn't).  He was hurt pretty bad and was going to get KO'd in this fight if the ref didn't jump in.  Lundy is too small and doesn't hit hard enough to be successful, IMO.  Stronger guys will walk through his punches for as long as it takes and eventually get to him.  He's been dropped a bunch of times, and I just don't see anything good in his future.  Molina is very tough and can crack.  That's enough to beat a lot of guys.  I didn't write him off after that loss to Honorio, and I think he can have a nice career.

     

    Tonight, I'm rolling with the Donaire ITD bet, and maybe something else later. 

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2010 - 1:02 PM ET #7

    I think if Lundy doesnt get caught in the 8th because he's screwing around he makes it to the final bell easily. That knock down totally turned the fight around and basically took everything out of Lundy .Scores were 98-91 twice and 97-92 at the time of stoppage.

    Good win on Molina Danno and GL tonight

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    I think if Lundy doesnt get caught in the 8th because he's screwing around he makes it to the final bell easily. That knock down totally turned the fight around and basically took everything out of Lundy .Scores were 98-91 twice and 97-92 at the time of stoppage.

    Good win on Molina Danno and GL tonight

     
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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2010 - 3:09 PM ET #8

    good job Danno. 

    Any thoughts on the Juan Manual Lopez tonight?   Was looking at the under there also.

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    good job Danno. 

    Any thoughts on the Juan Manual Lopez tonight?   Was looking at the under there also.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2010 - 4:34 PM ET #9

    Thanks.

    I think the JuanMa fight will be a pretty good one.  I don't think I'll be making any plays with it.  The o/u is tough at 8.5.  Lopez can certainly KO him at any point, but I think Concepcion might hang around for a while.  I'll just be watching this one, I think. 

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    Thanks.

    I think the JuanMa fight will be a pretty good one.  I don't think I'll be making any plays with it.  The o/u is tough at 8.5.  Lopez can certainly KO him at any point, but I think Concepcion might hang around for a while.  I'll just be watching this one, I think. 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2010 - 8:41 PM ET #10

    I agree Danno should be a decent fight.. Concepcion is is an okay fighter odds are very high.. this is a huge fight for Lopez he will fight be fighting Rafael Marquez this fall.

    I don't have a lot of confidence in this pick but Concepcion +30.5 points at +260 seems like a decent price.

    I'm not sold on Lopez just yet, he is hittable and likes to slug odds are he ends this fight but at +260 and taking +30.5 points (small play)

    Bernabe's fifth fight at 126 so maybe he can handle the power :)

    Good luck to all!

         
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    I agree Danno should be a decent fight.. Concepcion is is an okay fighter odds are very high.. this is a huge fight for Lopez he will fight be fighting Rafael Marquez this fall.

    I don't have a lot of confidence in this pick but Concepcion +30.5 points at +260 seems like a decent price.

    I'm not sold on Lopez just yet, he is hittable and likes to slug odds are he ends this fight but at +260 and taking +30.5 points (small play)

    Bernabe's fifth fight at 126 so maybe he can handle the power :)

    Good luck to all!

         
     
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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2010 - 8:45 PM ET #11

    I am a JuanMa fan.  I will unload on him against Marquez, when that fight happens.  If Marquez struggles tonight, and it gets me better odds in the winter, that's fine with me. 

     

    Good luck rich.

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    I am a JuanMa fan.  I will unload on him against Marquez, when that fight happens.  If Marquez struggles tonight, and it gets me better odds in the winter, that's fine with me. 

     

    Good luck rich.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DannoDanger:

    I am a JuanMa fan.  I will unload on him against Marquez, when that fight happens.  If Marquez struggles tonight, and it gets me better odds in the winter, that's fine with me. 

     

    Good luck rich.



    I couldn't sit this one out. I put a moderate/ large wager on Juanma wins via decision at +292. Concepcion should hang around if he gets out of the first 5 rounds.

    I agree on unloading on Juanma, Marquez is riding a false wave of popularity due to the fights with Vazquez. I wouldn't be shocked if they set that line at -400 for Juanma. What opening number do you think we'll see assuming tonight goes well for Juanma?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DannoDanger:

    I am a JuanMa fan.  I will unload on him against Marquez, when that fight happens.  If Marquez struggles tonight, and it gets me better odds in the winter, that's fine with me. 

     

    Good luck rich.



    I couldn't sit this one out. I put a moderate/ large wager on Juanma wins via decision at +292. Concepcion should hang around if he gets out of the first 5 rounds.

    I agree on unloading on Juanma, Marquez is riding a false wave of popularity due to the fights with Vazquez. I wouldn't be shocked if they set that line at -400 for Juanma. What opening number do you think we'll see assuming tonight goes well for Juanma?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2010 - 9:42 PM ET #13

    Good luck Danno  and Walk :)

    Hopefully will be a good fight!

                  
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    Good luck Danno  and Walk :)

    Hopefully will be a good fight!

                  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:




    I agree on unloading on Juanma, Marquez is riding a false wave of popularity due to the fights with Vazquez. I wouldn't be shocked if they set that line at -400 for Juanma. What opening number do you think we'll see assuming tonight goes well for Juanma?

    If Juanma wins impressively tonight, I think you're right, with the -400 range.  If Bernabe goes the distance and looks good in spots, it'll probably be slightly less.  I'll play Juanma ITD big against Marquez. 

     

    And Donaire is good, but that fight lasted about five rounds longer than it should've.  He says he wanted to get some rounds in, but he took a little damage along the way. 

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    I agree on unloading on Juanma, Marquez is riding a false wave of popularity due to the fights with Vazquez. I wouldn't be shocked if they set that line at -400 for Juanma. What opening number do you think we'll see assuming tonight goes well for Juanma?

    If Juanma wins impressively tonight, I think you're right, with the -400 range.  If Bernabe goes the distance and looks good in spots, it'll probably be slightly less.  I'll play Juanma ITD big against Marquez. 

     

    And Donaire is good, but that fight lasted about five rounds longer than it should've.  He says he wanted to get some rounds in, but he took a little damage along the way. 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2010 - 10:08 PM ET #15

    Donaire just wanted rounds but he did get hit a lot by a guy who was a pure tomato can and a full weight class lower than him.

    Marquez fought men who were 1-12 1-20 0-20 etc etc. Donaire clearly wanted to box a few rounds leading me to believe he is taking a big fight next.

    Hopefully it's against Vic Darchinyan so I can bet against Vic who is done as a top boxer. :)

    I think if Juanman Blows conception out of the water he will be about -300 -320 at most just like you guys said Marquez got his name for the wars with Vasquez.

    If Juanma gets tagged a bit or goes the distance I see Juanma as a -200 -190.

    What happened to Gamboa vs Lopez.. they were supposed to be fighting.. would be a war!

    Seems like if both guys are still undefeated by Late Summer/Fall of 2011 they will be fighting each other.

    :)

    Fight is about to start, good luck to everyone!

                               
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    Donaire just wanted rounds but he did get hit a lot by a guy who was a pure tomato can and a full weight class lower than him.

    Marquez fought men who were 1-12 1-20 0-20 etc etc. Donaire clearly wanted to box a few rounds leading me to believe he is taking a big fight next.

    Hopefully it's against Vic Darchinyan so I can bet against Vic who is done as a top boxer. :)

    I think if Juanman Blows conception out of the water he will be about -300 -320 at most just like you guys said Marquez got his name for the wars with Vasquez.

    If Juanma gets tagged a bit or goes the distance I see Juanma as a -200 -190.

    What happened to Gamboa vs Lopez.. they were supposed to be fighting.. would be a war!

    Seems like if both guys are still undefeated by Late Summer/Fall of 2011 they will be fighting each other.

    :)

    Fight is about to start, good luck to everyone!

                               
     
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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2010 - 10:14 PM ET #16

    LMFAO!!! What a round!!! (I'm toast already)
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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2010 - 10:15 PM ET #17

    Oh boy..... 
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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2010 - 10:23 PM ET #18

    Concepcion reminded me of Manny Pacquiao, except for the being shitty and getting KO'd part.

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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2010 - 10:24 PM ET #19

    Well was fun while it lasted lol!

    Conception did tag him at the end of the 1st round, and two good body punches during round two but in the end Lopez was too strong from the get go.

    Why I like watching Lopez is he takes shots he doesn't have to he's a bit too aggressive and he will exchange with anyone even if he could easily OUT BOX them.

    Congrats Danno

                  
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    Well was fun while it lasted lol!

    Conception did tag him at the end of the 1st round, and two good body punches during round two but in the end Lopez was too strong from the get go.

    Why I like watching Lopez is he takes shots he doesn't have to he's a bit too aggressive and he will exchange with anyone even if he could easily OUT BOX them.

    Congrats Danno

                  
     
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    Showtime had a winning night and so did we 

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    Nice
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2010 - 4:07 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by DannoDanger:

    Two plays so far:

    - Molina (+185) risking .8 to win 1.48

    - Jones ITD (-390) + Donaire ITD (-247) risking 2 to win 1.53

     

     




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    Two plays so far:

    - Molina (+185) risking .8 to win 1.48

    - Jones ITD (-390) + Donaire ITD (-247) risking 2 to win 1.53

     

     




     
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2010 - 11:15 PM ET #23

    Thanks. 

     

    Lots of fights on TV next weekend too.  I have tickets to the Zab Judah fight in Newark at The Rock.  Unfortunately, my brother just gave me tickets to the NYY/TB Rays game that night too.  Tough call.    

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    Lots of fights on TV next weekend too.  I have tickets to the Zab Judah fight in Newark at The Rock.  Unfortunately, my brother just gave me tickets to the NYY/TB Rays game that night too.  Tough call.    

     
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    Posted: Jul. 12, 2010 - 1:13 AM ET #24

    Zab

    Yanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by EricLinny:

    Zab

    Yanks

    I agree, even though I'm not a Yanks fan (should be a good game).  Zab probably blows out Santa Cruz.  The problem is, I'm super-lazy.  I live two blocks from the Newark city subway and can be at The Rock in less than 15 minutes.  The Bronx can be a pain in the ass.  I either have to drive or take three different trains.  But he gave me these tickets for my birthday, and it would be shitty for me to give them away.  That's the deciding factor, I guess. 

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    Zab

    Yanks

    I agree, even though I'm not a Yanks fan (should be a good game).  Zab probably blows out Santa Cruz.  The problem is, I'm super-lazy.  I live two blocks from the Newark city subway and can be at The Rock in less than 15 minutes.  The Bronx can be a pain in the ass.  I either have to drive or take three different trains.  But he gave me these tickets for my birthday, and it would be shitty for me to give them away.  That's the deciding factor, I guess. 

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