I'm a full believer in taking points where you can get them. This line is simply too high. Wofford comes into this game with 4 players averaging double figures (albeit through 2 games). But the scoring punch is there to keep them in this game vs a Vermont team that has had trouble consistently scoring early in the season. Wofford was leading at half vs tough LSU team (43-39) before succumbing into LSU pressure in 2nd half.
Vermont is a two trick pony with a 1-2 G-F punch inside out. They don't rebound extremely well which is stat one when comparing these mid major type schools. Wofford in their 2nd half meltdown vs LSU still held neck and neck rebounding in the game holding. 32-29 edge before eventually getting out rebounded 34-41 (skewed a by due to terrible shots late in game playing catch up). Vermont barely outrebounded an undersized Marist team 34-30. The other key factor when analyzing this game is Vermonts careless play early on. They have turned the ball over 18, 17, 17, & 15 times vs very average competition. Their guards simply force entirely too much an get to erratic with the ball.
I just think early morning games teams struggle to score and these games come down to who can rebound and who can limit their turnovers. Wofford isn't a sexy basketball name and naturally getting public backing vs a 3-1 Vermont team that is consistently competing for conference titles, but 9.5 is simply too many points for Vermont to cover given their issues with turnovers and given Wofford ability to put the ball in the hoop.
Play: Wofford (+9.5) (-141) 13* YETI ICE CHESTS FULL OF DOUGH
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Overall NCAAB Record: 2-1-0 (+8.7U)
Play: Wofford (+9.5) (-141) Bought 1.5 points
I'm a full believer in taking points where you can get them. This line is simply too high. Wofford comes into this game with 4 players averaging double figures (albeit through 2 games). But the scoring punch is there to keep them in this game vs a Vermont team that has had trouble consistently scoring early in the season. Wofford was leading at half vs tough LSU team (43-39) before succumbing into LSU pressure in 2nd half.
Vermont is a two trick pony with a 1-2 G-F punch inside out. They don't rebound extremely well which is stat one when comparing these mid major type schools. Wofford in their 2nd half meltdown vs LSU still held neck and neck rebounding in the game holding. 32-29 edge before eventually getting out rebounded 34-41 (skewed a by due to terrible shots late in game playing catch up). Vermont barely outrebounded an undersized Marist team 34-30. The other key factor when analyzing this game is Vermonts careless play early on. They have turned the ball over 18, 17, 17, & 15 times vs very average competition. Their guards simply force entirely too much an get to erratic with the ball.
I just think early morning games teams struggle to score and these games come down to who can rebound and who can limit their turnovers. Wofford isn't a sexy basketball name and naturally getting public backing vs a 3-1 Vermont team that is consistently competing for conference titles, but 9.5 is simply too many points for Vermont to cover given their issues with turnovers and given Wofford ability to put the ball in the hoop.
Play: Wofford (+9.5) (-141) 13* YETI ICE CHESTS FULL OF DOUGH
Early season revenge spot at E. Illinois just lost to Troy a week back by 3. Not much went right for the Panthers in the first game and I fully expect some of these key categories to retract to the mean. First, Troy shot 36 FTs in the game. Second, 2 key players fouled out for Eastern Illinois in the game and never really got into the flow of the game. Third, Eastern Illinois shot 27.3% from the 3 point line. This is a team that shot 41.2%, 47.1%, 38% in their other 3 games. This team can absolutely light it up. Also, this is a deep, experienced roster with big goals this year and I fully expect them to get back on track today vs a Troy team playing its second game of a 4 game road trip that sees them going from Alabama to Illinois to San Fransisco to Hawaii. Keep an eye on this team in the coming days/week as they will certainly wear down with all the travel/holidays.
In addition to the above, Eastern Illinois spotted them an 11 point halftime in the first meeting and simply never really got going until late second half. This will be a different game and a different outcome for sure
Play: Eastern Illinois ML (-193) 18* DISGUSTING SHRIMP BOATS FULL OF MONEY
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Play: Eastern Illinois ML (-193)
Early season revenge spot at E. Illinois just lost to Troy a week back by 3. Not much went right for the Panthers in the first game and I fully expect some of these key categories to retract to the mean. First, Troy shot 36 FTs in the game. Second, 2 key players fouled out for Eastern Illinois in the game and never really got into the flow of the game. Third, Eastern Illinois shot 27.3% from the 3 point line. This is a team that shot 41.2%, 47.1%, 38% in their other 3 games. This team can absolutely light it up. Also, this is a deep, experienced roster with big goals this year and I fully expect them to get back on track today vs a Troy team playing its second game of a 4 game road trip that sees them going from Alabama to Illinois to San Fransisco to Hawaii. Keep an eye on this team in the coming days/week as they will certainly wear down with all the travel/holidays.
In addition to the above, Eastern Illinois spotted them an 11 point halftime in the first meeting and simply never really got going until late second half. This will be a different game and a different outcome for sure
Play: Eastern Illinois ML (-193) 18* DISGUSTING SHRIMP BOATS FULL OF MONEY
Really like this matchup for Hofstra. Don't let these records fool you folks Bradley has beat Illinois-Springfield Prarie and Southeast Missouri and got beat by 14 to Delaware. Bradley will be overmatched athletically and giving up a whole bunch of size today. In addition, they shoot FTs at 60%, 3 pointers at 33%, and have a FG% of 44% as a team. That simply doesn't get it done today vs an attacking style defense that will overwhelm them. Bradley will struggle to score today and Hofstra will run away with it in the 2nd half.
This is an experienced Hofstra team that returns the core group from a 24-10 team a year ago and added a very talented freshman guard who can flat out go! Mismatches all over the court today and Hofstra should find early success attacking the basket!
Play: Hofstra ML (-197) 15* DIRTY SMELLY SOCKS FULL OF MONEY
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Play: Hofstra ML (-197)
Really like this matchup for Hofstra. Don't let these records fool you folks Bradley has beat Illinois-Springfield Prarie and Southeast Missouri and got beat by 14 to Delaware. Bradley will be overmatched athletically and giving up a whole bunch of size today. In addition, they shoot FTs at 60%, 3 pointers at 33%, and have a FG% of 44% as a team. That simply doesn't get it done today vs an attacking style defense that will overwhelm them. Bradley will struggle to score today and Hofstra will run away with it in the 2nd half.
This is an experienced Hofstra team that returns the core group from a 24-10 team a year ago and added a very talented freshman guard who can flat out go! Mismatches all over the court today and Hofstra should find early success attacking the basket!
Play: Hofstra ML (-197) 15* DIRTY SMELLY SOCKS FULL OF MONEY
Haven't looked that far down yet on OK St. May take a look at it
Play: Green Bay (-1.5) (-110)
This is simply a case of public perception vs reality. The perception is UMKC is going to walk all over Green Bay today given the fact they went toe to toe with a very good Creighton team and beat quality opponents in Drake, BGSU, Murray St but the reality is the combined record of those 3 teams right now is 3-8 and while 3-1 with a close loss looks sexy to some it doesn't hold water to the reality. Meanwhile, Green Bay comes into this game 2-2 with ugly loss vs Murray St (whom UMKC handled) and loss @Pacific who sits at 1-2 (but loses vs UCLA and UCI).
Green Bay has been the staple for consistent college basketball at a mid major program. Every year they rack up 20 wins and compete for the Horizon League Chanpionship. The last two years they are a combined 47-21 w/1 Horizon title and NCAA birth. They have another roster poised to make a similar run. They are balanced, athletic and experienced. 4 of their 6 leading scorers are seniors and they will have the most versitile player on the floor today in 6'7 Sr Guard Botz. He is a matchup nightmare specially for a team who's center is barely 6'8. His is a matchup nightmare for UMKC.
Measurables
UMKC - 5'11, 6'0, 6'3, 5'8, 6'8
Green Bay - 6'2, 6'4, 6'3, 6'7, 6'7
Basketball is all about matchups and this one is awful for an undersized team. Again we isolate the rebounding discrepancy here. If you can't rebound the basketball I don't care how much talent you have your not winning. Green Bay holds a huge rebounding advantage in this game at nearly +11 RPG differential compared to UMKC. While UMKC outside shooting could keep them in this game I just think this game will be won attacking the rim and 2nd chance points. In the mid major world this is David (UMKC) v Goliath (Green Bay) yet we find a short short opening line.
Play: Green Bay (-1.5) 15* STEAMY HOT SEASONED CRAWFISH POTS FULL OF MONEY
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Haven't looked that far down yet on OK St. May take a look at it
Play: Green Bay (-1.5) (-110)
This is simply a case of public perception vs reality. The perception is UMKC is going to walk all over Green Bay today given the fact they went toe to toe with a very good Creighton team and beat quality opponents in Drake, BGSU, Murray St but the reality is the combined record of those 3 teams right now is 3-8 and while 3-1 with a close loss looks sexy to some it doesn't hold water to the reality. Meanwhile, Green Bay comes into this game 2-2 with ugly loss vs Murray St (whom UMKC handled) and loss @Pacific who sits at 1-2 (but loses vs UCLA and UCI).
Green Bay has been the staple for consistent college basketball at a mid major program. Every year they rack up 20 wins and compete for the Horizon League Chanpionship. The last two years they are a combined 47-21 w/1 Horizon title and NCAA birth. They have another roster poised to make a similar run. They are balanced, athletic and experienced. 4 of their 6 leading scorers are seniors and they will have the most versitile player on the floor today in 6'7 Sr Guard Botz. He is a matchup nightmare specially for a team who's center is barely 6'8. His is a matchup nightmare for UMKC.
Measurables
UMKC - 5'11, 6'0, 6'3, 5'8, 6'8
Green Bay - 6'2, 6'4, 6'3, 6'7, 6'7
Basketball is all about matchups and this one is awful for an undersized team. Again we isolate the rebounding discrepancy here. If you can't rebound the basketball I don't care how much talent you have your not winning. Green Bay holds a huge rebounding advantage in this game at nearly +11 RPG differential compared to UMKC. While UMKC outside shooting could keep them in this game I just think this game will be won attacking the rim and 2nd chance points. In the mid major world this is David (UMKC) v Goliath (Green Bay) yet we find a short short opening line.
Play: Green Bay (-1.5) 15* STEAMY HOT SEASONED CRAWFISH POTS FULL OF MONEY
Some of these early season games getting squirrelly. Basketball gods answered several Bradley shot attempts but in the end Hofstra pulled it out. Again ML is a little riskier here but it cashed ticket!
On to the next one....
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Some of these early season games getting squirrelly. Basketball gods answered several Bradley shot attempts but in the end Hofstra pulled it out. Again ML is a little riskier here but it cashed ticket!
Not saying it's a bad pick but I think people look at size when it doesn't really make a difference. There are ways to play around being a smaller team
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Not saying it's a bad pick but I think people look at size when it doesn't really make a difference. There are ways to play around being a smaller team
terrible shiity pick with green bay, wmkc is outrebounding them
u hav no idea what you're talking about
stop spewing bs as facts
This guy has quality pick after quality pick whats your problem. Cannot win at 100% its impossible. Don't be mad because you followed a bad one still plenty of game left its basketball, relax
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Quote Originally Posted by PoeticJustice:
terrible shiity pick with green bay, wmkc is outrebounding them
u hav no idea what you're talking about
stop spewing bs as facts
This guy has quality pick after quality pick whats your problem. Cannot win at 100% its impossible. Don't be mad because you followed a bad one still plenty of game left its basketball, relax
Everyone ok? Stepped away for 5 minutes and all of a sudden I'm fielding DMs and forum filled with shenanigans 3:30 minutes into a game?
Can we proceed to our schedule program?
Play: UCONN (+6) (-147)
Bought 2 Full Points
This line is getting out of hand. Lest anyone forget OK St simply isn't right the last couple of years. A 3-0 start to the season vs a barrel of scrubs is hardly something to ride home about much less start laying relatively large spreads vs top competition. According to KenPom power rankings, despite the 3-0 start Ok St sits at #61 and despite the rocky bumps UCONN has experienced they are currently sitting #68.
Make no mistake about it this UCONN team is absolutely LOADED but they are very young! Their top 4 scorers are 2 freshman and 2 sophomores but they are in a different class of talent compared to their opposition tonight. While OSU is hanging big huge sexy numbers on the board please be reminded they have played Campbell, UCA, and UNO.
Let's dive deeper! First and foremost looking at these two teams on paper we see a glaring issue! Size, athleticism and length all heavily favor the Huskies tonight! OSU goes 5'11, 6'1, 6'1, 6'5, 6'8 v UCONN rangy 6'0, 6'2, 6'4, 6'8, 7'0. Again in a game predicated on matchups UCONN has two big ones in Brimah (7'0 post) and Larnier (6'8 wing). The biggest issue this year for UCONN has simply been executed shots as they have shot 27% from 3 and a horrible 38% from the field. However, tonight's matchup will be a total run and gun get up and down the floor free flowing game and UCONN should excel! Everyone wants to talk 1-2 start but they played 3 teams that execute in half court and control pace at all cost! Tonight's style of play will benefit UCONN tremendously and I look for them to get out of their funk.
This line is simply disrespectful and the public is hammering OK St! Ok St didn't fix 12-20 record last year overnight!
Also, something that has to be factored in when capping this game is the fact OK St has played 3 straight home games in the middle of the country and now travel to play in Maui which is a 4 hour time difference. In what looks to be a brilliant scheduling move now for UCONN, UCONN played their last game on the west coast @ Loyola Marymount in LA before heading to Maui. Doesn't seem like a big advantage but this is certainly an edge! Keep in mind last year on the away from home court they went an icy 4-11.
When the public completely turns their back on a team it's time to pounce!
Play: UCONN (+6) (-147) 18* DIRTY FILTHY CRAP TRAPS FULL OF MONEY
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Everyone ok? Stepped away for 5 minutes and all of a sudden I'm fielding DMs and forum filled with shenanigans 3:30 minutes into a game?
Can we proceed to our schedule program?
Play: UCONN (+6) (-147)
Bought 2 Full Points
This line is getting out of hand. Lest anyone forget OK St simply isn't right the last couple of years. A 3-0 start to the season vs a barrel of scrubs is hardly something to ride home about much less start laying relatively large spreads vs top competition. According to KenPom power rankings, despite the 3-0 start Ok St sits at #61 and despite the rocky bumps UCONN has experienced they are currently sitting #68.
Make no mistake about it this UCONN team is absolutely LOADED but they are very young! Their top 4 scorers are 2 freshman and 2 sophomores but they are in a different class of talent compared to their opposition tonight. While OSU is hanging big huge sexy numbers on the board please be reminded they have played Campbell, UCA, and UNO.
Let's dive deeper! First and foremost looking at these two teams on paper we see a glaring issue! Size, athleticism and length all heavily favor the Huskies tonight! OSU goes 5'11, 6'1, 6'1, 6'5, 6'8 v UCONN rangy 6'0, 6'2, 6'4, 6'8, 7'0. Again in a game predicated on matchups UCONN has two big ones in Brimah (7'0 post) and Larnier (6'8 wing). The biggest issue this year for UCONN has simply been executed shots as they have shot 27% from 3 and a horrible 38% from the field. However, tonight's matchup will be a total run and gun get up and down the floor free flowing game and UCONN should excel! Everyone wants to talk 1-2 start but they played 3 teams that execute in half court and control pace at all cost! Tonight's style of play will benefit UCONN tremendously and I look for them to get out of their funk.
This line is simply disrespectful and the public is hammering OK St! Ok St didn't fix 12-20 record last year overnight!
Also, something that has to be factored in when capping this game is the fact OK St has played 3 straight home games in the middle of the country and now travel to play in Maui which is a 4 hour time difference. In what looks to be a brilliant scheduling move now for UCONN, UCONN played their last game on the west coast @ Loyola Marymount in LA before heading to Maui. Doesn't seem like a big advantage but this is certainly an edge! Keep in mind last year on the away from home court they went an icy 4-11.
When the public completely turns their back on a team it's time to pounce!
Play: UCONN (+6) (-147) 18* DIRTY FILTHY CRAP TRAPS FULL OF MONEY
Any worries about the loss of the freshman PG Gibson for UConn? The McDonald's All-American left the Loyola game with a separated shoulder (he's done it twice before) and the team looked a little lost without him before recovering.
Wasn't sure if there was any update for his playing status in Maui.
Best of luck.
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Any worries about the loss of the freshman PG Gibson for UConn? The McDonald's All-American left the Loyola game with a separated shoulder (he's done it twice before) and the team looked a little lost without him before recovering.
Wasn't sure if there was any update for his playing status in Maui.
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