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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 7:09 PM ET #326

    Quote Originally Posted by yeller72:

    people it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure this method out...but all the talk will undoutably bring the tout services into this thread and will screw you in the line.."loose lips sink ships"


    Three major tout services were stealing the plays and my writeups word for word the last two years, even they aren't smart enough to be able to find the system plays themselves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeller72:

    people it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure this method out...but all the talk will undoutably bring the tout services into this thread and will screw you in the line.."loose lips sink ships"


    Three major tout services were stealing the plays and my writeups word for word the last two years, even they aren't smart enough to be able to find the system plays themselves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 7:17 PM ET #327

    It just got a little confusing when jageer1 in Post #268 and eastcoastplayer in Post #267 were just one game off in their System Plays predictions and we're told they weren't paying attention, rather than just simply pointing out that it's opening lines only.

    Could have saved a lot of crap. Sorry I didn't chime in and cut them some slack.

    GL
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    It just got a little confusing when jageer1 in Post #268 and eastcoastplayer in Post #267 were just one game off in their System Plays predictions and we're told they weren't paying attention, rather than just simply pointing out that it's opening lines only.

    Could have saved a lot of crap. Sorry I didn't chime in and cut them some slack.

    GL
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 7:21 PM ET #328

    Quote Originally Posted by KineProfessor:



    Three major tout services were stealing the plays and my writeups word for word the last two years, even they aren't smart enough to be able to find the system plays themselves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Now do you sheep get it?.... here is KILLA KINE spending hours upon hours of research developing and tracking this system... and these scumbag touts steal it.... AND KILLA KINE ISN'T EVEN ASKING FOR ANY MONEY!!

    Grow up, stop following the herd, take some time and determine why a play is a play, and STOP BITCHING ABOUT HOW THIS DUDE IS TRYING TO MAKE YOU MONEY....
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    Quote Originally Posted by KineProfessor:



    Three major tout services were stealing the plays and my writeups word for word the last two years, even they aren't smart enough to be able to find the system plays themselves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Now do you sheep get it?.... here is KILLA KINE spending hours upon hours of research developing and tracking this system... and these scumbag touts steal it.... AND KILLA KINE ISN'T EVEN ASKING FOR ANY MONEY!!

    Grow up, stop following the herd, take some time and determine why a play is a play, and STOP BITCHING ABOUT HOW THIS DUDE IS TRYING TO MAKE YOU MONEY....
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 7:36 PM ET #329

    Quote Originally Posted by Barnstorm:

    It just got a little confusing when jageer1 in Post #268 and eastcoastplayer in Post #267 were just one game off in their System Plays predictions and we're told they weren't paying attention, rather than just simply pointing out that it's opening lines only.

    Could have saved a lot of crap. Sorry I didn't chime in and cut them some slack.

    GL


    Completely agree, the advice to go back and read 1 and 2 was right on as it is clearly laid out in those posts that its opening lines only - we are trying to help these people learn to fish (or atleast learn the system) not give them a fish so they can gamble for a lifetime!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barnstorm:

    It just got a little confusing when jageer1 in Post #268 and eastcoastplayer in Post #267 were just one game off in their System Plays predictions and we're told they weren't paying attention, rather than just simply pointing out that it's opening lines only.

    Could have saved a lot of crap. Sorry I didn't chime in and cut them some slack.

    GL


    Completely agree, the advice to go back and read 1 and 2 was right on as it is clearly laid out in those posts that its opening lines only - we are trying to help these people learn to fish (or atleast learn the system) not give them a fish so they can gamble for a lifetime!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 7:41 PM ET #330

    The next problem I'm sure we will have in this thread is people accusing me of guaranteeing that all the plays would win - so if we could point them to post 1, 2, and 159 - that will say us a ton of headaches as well - good luck all

    Still looking into Marist and SE Miss St
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    The next problem I'm sure we will have in this thread is people accusing me of guaranteeing that all the plays would win - so if we could point them to post 1, 2, and 159 - that will say us a ton of headaches as well - good luck all

    Still looking into Marist and SE Miss St
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 7:43 PM ET #331

    Kine, would you take Wisky if Brice Cartwright is out for Iowa. Brice was their game killer for their first game against Wisky.
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    Kine, would you take Wisky if Brice Cartwright is out for Iowa. Brice was their game killer for their first game against Wisky.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 7:48 PM ET #332

    Quote Originally Posted by Barnstorm:

    It just got a little confusing when jageer1 in Post #268 and eastcoastplayer in Post #267 were just one game off in their System Plays predictions and we're told they weren't paying attention, rather than just simply pointing out that it's opening lines only.

    Could have saved a lot of crap. Sorry I didn't chime in and cut them some slack.

    GL

    Thanks...Barnstorm agree completely, thanks for the support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barnstorm:

    It just got a little confusing when jageer1 in Post #268 and eastcoastplayer in Post #267 were just one game off in their System Plays predictions and we're told they weren't paying attention, rather than just simply pointing out that it's opening lines only.

    Could have saved a lot of crap. Sorry I didn't chime in and cut them some slack.

    GL

    Thanks...Barnstorm agree completely, thanks for the support.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 7:50 PM ET #333

    KP, if the system plays don't win tonight, will you pay for my KenPom subscription next year?


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    KP, if the system plays don't win tonight, will you pay for my KenPom subscription next year?


     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 7:52 PM ET #334

    Quote Originally Posted by mtndew146:

    Kine, would you take Wisky if Brice Cartwright is out for Iowa. Brice was their game killer for their first game against Wisky.


    The bigger schools are not my specialty but I will say that any injuries are magnified at this point of the year so I would always rather back the team with a full squad if given the choice. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtndew146:

    Kine, would you take Wisky if Brice Cartwright is out for Iowa. Brice was their game killer for their first game against Wisky.


    The bigger schools are not my specialty but I will say that any injuries are magnified at this point of the year so I would always rather back the team with a full squad if given the choice. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 7:53 PM ET #335

    Quote Originally Posted by Barnstorm:

    It just got a little confusing when jageer1 in Post #268 and eastcoastplayer in Post #267 were just one game off in their System Plays predictions and we're told they weren't paying attention, rather than just simply pointing out that it's opening lines only.

    Could have saved a lot of crap. Sorry I didn't chime in and cut them some slack.

    GL


    Also, they were not paying attention or they didn't read post 1 and 2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barnstorm:

    It just got a little confusing when jageer1 in Post #268 and eastcoastplayer in Post #267 were just one game off in their System Plays predictions and we're told they weren't paying attention, rather than just simply pointing out that it's opening lines only.

    Could have saved a lot of crap. Sorry I didn't chime in and cut them some slack.

    GL


    Also, they were not paying attention or they didn't read post 1 and 2
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 7:53 PM ET #336

    Might have been a bit harsh. But the Kenpom subscription statement was to much for me.
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    Might have been a bit harsh. But the Kenpom subscription statement was to much for me.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 7:55 PM ET #337

    Quote Originally Posted by PitchBlack2011:


    Thanks...Barnstorm agree completely, thanks for the support.


    I've changed my mind, I support you as well, especially when you accused me of trying to make money as a "secret" kenpom employee despite the fact that you don't even need a kenpom account to easily figure out the system
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    Quote Originally Posted by PitchBlack2011:


    Thanks...Barnstorm agree completely, thanks for the support.


    I've changed my mind, I support you as well, especially when you accused me of trying to make money as a "secret" kenpom employee despite the fact that you don't even need a kenpom account to easily figure out the system
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 7:56 PM ET #338

    Quote Originally Posted by riccio14:

    KP, if the system plays don't win tonight, will you pay for my KenPom subscription next year?




    Hahaha - absolutely, because I get a little "taste" of .2% of those 19.99 yearly subscriptions, I'm already planning my European vacation for the year 2038
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    Quote Originally Posted by riccio14:

    KP, if the system plays don't win tonight, will you pay for my KenPom subscription next year?




    Hahaha - absolutely, because I get a little "taste" of .2% of those 19.99 yearly subscriptions, I'm already planning my European vacation for the year 2038
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 7:59 PM ET #339

    Quote Originally Posted by STEELERS in 07:

    Might have been a bit harsh. But the Kenpom subscription statement was to much for me.


    I been on here for years and didn't think I could be surprised by something some writes on this forum, I was incorrect - the super secret kenpom employee even surprised me - hilarious

    The fact that you don't need a subscription to easily follow the system is what kills me

    Despite what it sounds like, I'm actually really liking this thread and its going WAY BETTER than the other threads from the last few years. 

    We could actually start discussing some of the other "almost" system plays if people could actually fathom the simple system but if I start mention OTHER games - you don't want to see the types of questions we will be getting in here
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    Quote Originally Posted by STEELERS in 07:

    Might have been a bit harsh. But the Kenpom subscription statement was to much for me.


    I been on here for years and didn't think I could be surprised by something some writes on this forum, I was incorrect - the super secret kenpom employee even surprised me - hilarious

    The fact that you don't need a subscription to easily follow the system is what kills me

    Despite what it sounds like, I'm actually really liking this thread and its going WAY BETTER than the other threads from the last few years. 

    We could actually start discussing some of the other "almost" system plays if people could actually fathom the simple system but if I start mention OTHER games - you don't want to see the types of questions we will be getting in here
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 8:02 PM ET #340

     Kine's humble opinion
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 8:12 PM ET #341

    Can you say cluster fuck
    Shame really..Another good post gets diluted to the point of not worth reading.

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    Can you say cluster fuck
    Shame really..Another good post gets diluted to the point of not worth reading.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 8:21 PM ET #342

    I'm sure you guys remember how the threads use to get.  The most brutal, annoying part was we would have a daily thread and literally dozens of people would come in and ask, "I'm interested, can you explain the system" and others would say "what are the system plays" and then we would have to waste a million posts going over the same simple crap over and over again.  I can't stress this enough, WE HAVE SOLVED THAT PROBLEM.  If anyone asks about the system or the plays, tell them to read post 1 and 2 - PROBLEM SOLVED.  If they still don't comprehend and understand, then this isn't a good system for them.  Its that plain and simple. 

    And if that isn't enough, I'm posting all the system plays the night before and also including ALL the other plays that we should consider based on the system principles and ALL the plays I'm looking at personally. 

    This isn't so much a system as a philosophy of finding value and winning money at the most "beatable" of all the sports to gamble on (with maybe the exception of mma).  As has been stated before, if you just read post 1 and 2, you don't even ever have to come into this thread again and you still know the system plays. 

    The goal of this thread is to discuss the "other" games that don't fit the system or are other "under the radar" games and share information (much like our friend that posted the Citadel tempo article and the first half, second half, and game under all hit as the article suggested it would).  We have a ton of experience between us and if we put our heads together, share info, articles, angles, etc. we could do really well (and that really should be the goal of this entire forum). 

    So, again, its for the betterment of the thread if you just request people read post 1 and 2 we could actually get down to discussing the games, like the interesting Marist vs Siena game or why SE Miss St is a 3.5 and climbing dog to Jacksonville St.  This is something that would help all of us, and I think we could all agree on that
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    I'm sure you guys remember how the threads use to get.  The most brutal, annoying part was we would have a daily thread and literally dozens of people would come in and ask, "I'm interested, can you explain the system" and others would say "what are the system plays" and then we would have to waste a million posts going over the same simple crap over and over again.  I can't stress this enough, WE HAVE SOLVED THAT PROBLEM.  If anyone asks about the system or the plays, tell them to read post 1 and 2 - PROBLEM SOLVED.  If they still don't comprehend and understand, then this isn't a good system for them.  Its that plain and simple. 

    And if that isn't enough, I'm posting all the system plays the night before and also including ALL the other plays that we should consider based on the system principles and ALL the plays I'm looking at personally. 

    This isn't so much a system as a philosophy of finding value and winning money at the most "beatable" of all the sports to gamble on (with maybe the exception of mma).  As has been stated before, if you just read post 1 and 2, you don't even ever have to come into this thread again and you still know the system plays. 

    The goal of this thread is to discuss the "other" games that don't fit the system or are other "under the radar" games and share information (much like our friend that posted the Citadel tempo article and the first half, second half, and game under all hit as the article suggested it would).  We have a ton of experience between us and if we put our heads together, share info, articles, angles, etc. we could do really well (and that really should be the goal of this entire forum). 

    So, again, its for the betterment of the thread if you just request people read post 1 and 2 we could actually get down to discussing the games, like the interesting Marist vs Siena game or why SE Miss St is a 3.5 and climbing dog to Jacksonville St.  This is something that would help all of us, and I think we could all agree on that
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 8:23 PM ET #343

    Eastern Illinois didn't get off to an ideal start.



    The others are doing okay though.
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    Eastern Illinois didn't get off to an ideal start.



    The others are doing okay though.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 8:23 PM ET #344

    Quote Originally Posted by PitchBlack2011:

     Kine's humble opinion


    you're about as cocky as that Matt Damon character in your photo
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    Quote Originally Posted by PitchBlack2011:

     Kine's humble opinion


    you're about as cocky as that Matt Damon character in your photo
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 8:28 PM ET #345

    Plays:
    The four system plays
    Fullerton -3
    Ar St +9
    SE Miss St +4
    Marist ML

    Might take some 2nd half middle chances if we get some good spots.

    Please read post 342 and lets all get on the same page
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    Plays:
    The four system plays
    Fullerton -3
    Ar St +9
    SE Miss St +4
    Marist ML

    Might take some 2nd half middle chances if we get some good spots.

    Please read post 342 and lets all get on the same page
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 8:29 PM ET #346

    Quote Originally Posted by Sal_Tessio:

    Eastern Illinois didn't get off to an ideal start.



    The others are doing okay though.


    Believe it or not, some of the these system plays will start even worse!  And other times they have came back to cover as crazy as it sounds
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal_Tessio:

    Eastern Illinois didn't get off to an ideal start.



    The others are doing okay though.


    Believe it or not, some of the these system plays will start even worse!  And other times they have came back to cover as crazy as it sounds
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 8:31 PM ET #347

    Quote Originally Posted by riccio14:

    KP, if the system plays don't win tonight, will you pay for my KenPom subscription next year?


    yea..kine if they dont win tonight can you pay for my football season? and riccio..if your totals dotn hit tonight can get a autographed ryno sandberg jersy? lol...gl guys ryno

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    Quote Originally Posted by riccio14:

    KP, if the system plays don't win tonight, will you pay for my KenPom subscription next year?


    yea..kine if they dont win tonight can you pay for my football season? and riccio..if your totals dotn hit tonight can get a autographed ryno sandberg jersy? lol...gl guys ryno

     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 8:33 PM ET #348

    Kine, apologies if I missed it... but could you share a couple of quick sentences re: why you like ASU and Fullerton?  TIA
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    Kine, apologies if I missed it... but could you share a couple of quick sentences re: why you like ASU and Fullerton?  TIA
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 8:34 PM ET #349

    Well since I haven't invested the $20 for the KenPom sub, I'll use rankings to help use order our thoughts.

    SE Missouri State is #221 130 in AdjO, 306 in AdjD
    Jacksonville St. is #201 251 in AdjO, and 159 in AdjD

    hmmm...they seem fairly evenly matched to me. I don't know anything in depth about their teams.
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    Well since I haven't invested the $20 for the KenPom sub, I'll use rankings to help use order our thoughts.

    SE Missouri State is #221 130 in AdjO, 306 in AdjD
    Jacksonville St. is #201 251 in AdjO, and 159 in AdjD

    hmmm...they seem fairly evenly matched to me. I don't know anything in depth about their teams.
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2012 - 8:38 PM ET #350

    KP - SE Miss St is a good look, Jax St does have revenge on their mind and against a team that may be a bit inflated on their conf record, but a team that's in it none the less. Marist is circled for sure, and what about the Zags possibly laying too much?


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    KP - SE Miss St is a good look, Jax St does have revenge on their mind and against a team that may be a bit inflated on their conf record, but a team that's in it none the less. Marist is circled for sure, and what about the Zags possibly laying too much?


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