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    ryno23
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2014 - 10:11 PM ET #1451

    great start boys.....

    TROY  +10   winner

    MONTANA ST +8.5 winner

    EDWARDSVILLE +11.5 winner

    hope you all made money.   sweeeeep!   cya tomorrow  ryno

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    great start boys.....

    TROY  +10   winner

    MONTANA ST +8.5 winner

    EDWARDSVILLE +11.5 winner

    hope you all made money.   sweeeeep!   cya tomorrow  ryno

     
    Demps6203
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2014 - 10:12 PM ET #1452

    First night I followed. Great job tonight!
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    First night I followed. Great job tonight!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2014 - 10:13 PM ET #1453

    Followed 2 of the 3 and won! Let's keep this rolling.....
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    Followed 2 of the 3 and won! Let's keep this rolling.....
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2014 - 10:14 PM ET #1454

    NICE!!!
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    NICE!!!
     
    NewEra760
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2014 - 10:17 PM ET #1455

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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2014 - 10:21 PM ET #1456

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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2014 - 10:25 PM ET #1457

    How sweet it is.   Not job by the system tonight. 
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    How sweet it is.   Not job by the system tonight. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2014 - 10:25 PM ET #1458

    What a great comeback by Troy. Never a
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    What a great comeback by Troy. Never a
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2014 - 10:26 PM ET #1459

    ***seen so many prayer 3s go in. I'll take it!
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    ***seen so many prayer 3s go in. I'll take it!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2014 - 10:29 PM ET #1460

    Monster 3's down the stretch by Troy, especially the one with 20 seconds left. Nice to get a sweep after just missing two nights ago
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    Monster 3's down the stretch by Troy, especially the one with 20 seconds left. Nice to get a sweep after just missing two nights ago
     
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2014 - 10:31 PM ET #1461

    Took them all.  Sucks making all this money.

    I am sure someone will bash this success.  I want to be the first.

    Great job Kine & Ryno!
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    Took them all.  Sucks making all this money.

    I am sure someone will bash this success.  I want to be the first.

    Great job Kine & Ryno!
     
    Leapfrog
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2014 - 10:32 PM ET #1462

    Quote Originally Posted by ryno23:

    great start boys.....

    TROY  +10   winner

    MONTANA ST +8.5 winner

    EDWARDSVILLE +11.5 winner

    hope you all made money.   sweeeeep!   cya tomorrow  ryno


    Got em all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryno23:

    great start boys.....

    TROY  +10   winner

    MONTANA ST +8.5 winner

    EDWARDSVILLE +11.5 winner

    hope you all made money.   sweeeeep!   cya tomorrow  ryno


    Got em all!

     
    purpledays
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2014 - 10:36 PM ET #1463

    money money money 
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    money money money 
     
    thomthekid
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    Posted: Feb. 13, 2014 - 10:37 PM ET #1464

    Congrats to all who played all three.  Nice way to start the system season.

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    Congrats to all who played all three.  Nice way to start the system season.

     
    mserenil
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    Posted: Feb. 14, 2014 - 1:01 AM ET #1465

    NICE GREAT JOB !
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    NICE GREAT JOB !
     
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    Posted: Feb. 14, 2014 - 1:55 AM ET #1466

    Thanks Kine and Ryno.. Three winners for me and more money from my friends. Another winning night.
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    Thanks Kine and Ryno.. Three winners for me and more money from my friends. Another winning night.
     
    Deepee
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    Posted: Feb. 14, 2014 - 2:25 AM ET #1467

    Any games for Friday?
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    Any games for Friday?
     
    JesusJoint
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    Posted: Feb. 14, 2014 - 2:27 AM ET #1468

    Tailed today, thanks for the system! $$$
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    Tailed today, thanks for the system! $$$
     
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    Posted: Feb. 14, 2014 - 2:31 AM ET #1469

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    Posted: Feb. 14, 2014 - 3:07 AM ET #1470

    If the line moves to +10 on Pennsylvania vs Yale will that be a play? I see no others possible for tomorrow.
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    If the line moves to +10 on Pennsylvania vs Yale will that be a play? I see no others possible for tomorrow.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 14, 2014 - 3:33 AM ET #1471

    It does not have to be a double digit spread to make it a play.  Montana st. was +8.5.  The home team just needs to be favored by 6.5.  That being said, this is a marginal game.  Yale is #147.  If you go by the original parameters of the system then this is definitely no-play.  If you go by the new parameters outlined in post #1247, then it is marginal.  You will have to decide for yourself.  I may make it a no-play for myself.  I have not decided yet.




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    It does not have to be a double digit spread to make it a play.  Montana st. was +8.5.  The home team just needs to be favored by 6.5.  That being said, this is a marginal game.  Yale is #147.  If you go by the original parameters of the system then this is definitely no-play.  If you go by the new parameters outlined in post #1247, then it is marginal.  You will have to decide for yourself.  I may make it a no-play for myself.  I have not decided yet.




     
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    Posted: Feb. 14, 2014 - 3:36 AM ET #1472

    Quote Originally Posted by thomthekid:

    It does not have to be a double digit spread to make it a play.  Montana st. was +8.5.  The home team just needs to be favored by 6.5.  That being said, this is a marginal game.  Yale is #147.  If you go by the original parameters of the system then this is definitely no-play.  If you go by the new parameters
    outlined in post #1247, then it is marginal.  You will have to decide for yourself.  I may make it a no-play for myself.  I have not decided yet.





    I mean post #1241.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thomthekid:

    It does not have to be a double digit spread to make it a play.  Montana st. was +8.5.  The home team just needs to be favored by 6.5.  That being said, this is a marginal game.  Yale is #147.  If you go by the original parameters of the system then this is definitely no-play.  If you go by the new parameters
    outlined in post #1247, then it is marginal.  You will have to decide for yourself.  I may make it a no-play for myself.  I have not decided yet.





    I mean post #1241.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 14, 2014 - 4:44 AM ET #1473

    Any jump on Sat Games ?? Just asking ! 
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    Any jump on Sat Games ?? Just asking ! 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 14, 2014 - 4:51 AM ET #1474

    Because the Yale line opened at -9 and not double digit, it is not considered a play, but if this line moves to -10 or higher, is this a play?
    Does the system only act on the opening line? Sorry in advance if this is already answered, yes I've checked #1241
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    Because the Yale line opened at -9 and not double digit, it is not considered a play, but if this line moves to -10 or higher, is this a play?
    Does the system only act on the opening line? Sorry in advance if this is already answered, yes I've checked #1241
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 14, 2014 - 8:23 AM ET #1475

    Quote Originally Posted by KineProfessor:

    Ryno: I contacted you with some inside information for your eyes only

    System Update (for those that are interested):

    1. System should start Feb 13th (some would argue Feb 20th and they would have a point) and run to the end of the season and not include conference tourney games (although you could certainly use some of the principles to narrow down cards and look more closely at games).

    2. System should use a sliding scale and begin around Kenpom 140, understand that for teams ranked by Kenpom between  #140-200, lines should be DD before it qualifies as a play.  For teams #200-Southern Utah, lines of 7.5 or higher to constitute a play (of course you are still welcome to use your own brain and consider games that just miss the criteria as games that you should possibly look at more closely and consider playing).

    3. Games played on Thursday (or Friday) should be weighed more heavily than Saturday (or Sunday) aka the infamous two-game in three night small conference road trips.  So what I am saying is that I am more likely to play a borderline game on a Thursday (or Friday) and more likely to layoff a borderline game on Saturday (or Sunday). 

    Lastly, there are just guidelines to help you dwindle down big cards and give you are things to consider besides the normal capping BS that you read on this forum (and many other including the 140-character site, hope you see how those "cappers" are doing - ouch).  The fact is that most gamblers are still doing the same things that they were doing when the system blew up a number of years ago.  They still bet big teams that are televised (and who, of course, have the tightest lines imaginable).  They still bet favorites and they still feel completely stupid when they bet on small conference team that gets destroyed.  Listen, we still need some of these game to lose (and if they are going to lose, we want it to be a spectacular trainwreck) because those cappers would rather lose their money watching an OSU game then tracking a Samford or Appy St game online. 

    Remember, keep it simple, don't overthink it, have fun and we are all in this together.  I wont be around much or answering question but if Ryno wants to keep this thread alive and track the updated system plays (and he, as well as you guys, are welcome to tweak it as well) that is fine. 



    Reposting the infamous post 1241

    Penn at +9 doesn't quite qualify (Yale is in Kenpom 140s), however it's a Friday game, so as KP outlines in bullet 3, he's more likely to go with a marginal game (I qualify this as marginal since it's close to the magic 10 line...also my personal favorite rating system has Yale in the 200s).

    I'll be playing it to see how it does. However, I'm 99.9% sure Ryno will not count as an official play as I'm guessing he's sticking to the strict rules in bullets 1 and 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KineProfessor:

    Ryno: I contacted you with some inside information for your eyes only

    System Update (for those that are interested):

    1. System should start Feb 13th (some would argue Feb 20th and they would have a point) and run to the end of the season and not include conference tourney games (although you could certainly use some of the principles to narrow down cards and look more closely at games).

    2. System should use a sliding scale and begin around Kenpom 140, understand that for teams ranked by Kenpom between  #140-200, lines should be DD before it qualifies as a play.  For teams #200-Southern Utah, lines of 7.5 or higher to constitute a play (of course you are still welcome to use your own brain and consider games that just miss the criteria as games that you should possibly look at more closely and consider playing).

    3. Games played on Thursday (or Friday) should be weighed more heavily than Saturday (or Sunday) aka the infamous two-game in three night small conference road trips.  So what I am saying is that I am more likely to play a borderline game on a Thursday (or Friday) and more likely to layoff a borderline game on Saturday (or Sunday). 

    Lastly, there are just guidelines to help you dwindle down big cards and give you are things to consider besides the normal capping BS that you read on this forum (and many other including the 140-character site, hope you see how those "cappers" are doing - ouch).  The fact is that most gamblers are still doing the same things that they were doing when the system blew up a number of years ago.  They still bet big teams that are televised (and who, of course, have the tightest lines imaginable).  They still bet favorites and they still feel completely stupid when they bet on small conference team that gets destroyed.  Listen, we still need some of these game to lose (and if they are going to lose, we want it to be a spectacular trainwreck) because those cappers would rather lose their money watching an OSU game then tracking a Samford or Appy St game online. 

    Remember, keep it simple, don't overthink it, have fun and we are all in this together.  I wont be around much or answering question but if Ryno wants to keep this thread alive and track the updated system plays (and he, as well as you guys, are welcome to tweak it as well) that is fine. 



    Reposting the infamous post 1241

    Penn at +9 doesn't quite qualify (Yale is in Kenpom 140s), however it's a Friday game, so as KP outlines in bullet 3, he's more likely to go with a marginal game (I qualify this as marginal since it's close to the magic 10 line...also my personal favorite rating system has Yale in the 200s).

    I'll be playing it to see how it does. However, I'm 99.9% sure Ryno will not count as an official play as I'm guessing he's sticking to the strict rules in bullets 1 and 2.
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