calipari is a loser, plain and simple....everything that his teams worked so hard for is erased and so many players that felt they were on the right side of title contending teams were cheated....all the coach has to do is move to another place where the naivety is fresh and can take advantage of people and the sport he is supposed to love....reminds me off someone that would have had an amazing career and HOPer for sure but erased that because he needed MORE...are you reading this MR BONDS
So Calipari should have had the foresight to know that Marcus Camby would accept money and that Derrick Rose cheated on a test?
As a business owner I would hope that if any employees I employ break any laws or do any sort of cheating that I would not be held responsible.
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Quote Originally Posted by LBCWeasie:
calipari is a loser, plain and simple....everything that his teams worked so hard for is erased and so many players that felt they were on the right side of title contending teams were cheated....all the coach has to do is move to another place where the naivety is fresh and can take advantage of people and the sport he is supposed to love....reminds me off someone that would have had an amazing career and HOPer for sure but erased that because he needed MORE...are you reading this MR BONDS
So Calipari should have had the foresight to know that Marcus Camby would accept money and that Derrick Rose cheated on a test?
As a business owner I would hope that if any employees I employ break any laws or do any sort of cheating that I would not be held responsible.
So Calipari should have had the foresight to know that Marcus Camby would accept money and that Derrick Rose cheated on a test?
As a business owner I would hope that if any employees I employ break any laws or do any sort of cheating that I would not be held responsible.
Calipari was getting paid a ridiculous amount of money to know what was going on with his guys. His job was to know what his guys were doing. Rose was the biggest recuit coming out of high school that year and you dont think Calipari knew about his test scores? His # 1 priority was getting Rose into Memphis. Calipari knew anything and everything regarding Rose's acedemic situation. you really think he didnt know anything about Rose's test scores? that was his job and number one priority.
Its not just coincidence that Umass and Memphis had to vacate wins and final four appearances. The funny thing is that Kentucky fans think all of this is simply a result of everyones "envy" for their program.
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Quote Originally Posted by TRENT13:
So Calipari should have had the foresight to know that Marcus Camby would accept money and that Derrick Rose cheated on a test?
As a business owner I would hope that if any employees I employ break any laws or do any sort of cheating that I would not be held responsible.
Calipari was getting paid a ridiculous amount of money to know what was going on with his guys. His job was to know what his guys were doing. Rose was the biggest recuit coming out of high school that year and you dont think Calipari knew about his test scores? His # 1 priority was getting Rose into Memphis. Calipari knew anything and everything regarding Rose's acedemic situation. you really think he didnt know anything about Rose's test scores? that was his job and number one priority.
Its not just coincidence that Umass and Memphis had to vacate wins and final four appearances. The funny thing is that Kentucky fans think all of this is simply a result of everyones "envy" for their program.
the only basketball program to ever recieve the "death penalty" was Kentucky in 1952. they came ever so close to recieving it again in 1989. so i guess what im saying is, what else would you expect from this program?
"The University of Kentucky didn't invent this particular way to mark time. But then the Kentucky basketball program didn't invent cheating, either; the Wildcats merely perfected it. Last Friday morning at 10 o'clock the waiting was finally over. Proud, elegant Kentucky stood threadbare, stripped of its medals and conceits, dispossessed of image and reputation, exposed as a common NCAA felon." ---sports illustrated May 29, 1989
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the only basketball program to ever recieve the "death penalty" was Kentucky in 1952. they came ever so close to recieving it again in 1989. so i guess what im saying is, what else would you expect from this program?
"The University of Kentucky didn't invent this particular way to mark time. But then the Kentucky basketball program didn't invent cheating, either; the Wildcats merely perfected it. Last Friday morning at 10 o'clock the waiting was finally over. Proud, elegant Kentucky stood threadbare, stripped of its medals and conceits, dispossessed of image and reputation, exposed as a common NCAA felon." ---sports illustrated May 29, 1989
Calipari was getting paid a ridiculous amount of money to know what was going on with his guys. His job was to know what his guys were doing. Rose was the biggest recuit coming out of high school that year and you dont think Calipari knew about his test scores? His # 1 priority was getting Rose into Memphis. Calipari knew anything and everything regarding Rose's acedemic situation. you really think he didnt know anything about Rose's test scores? that was his job and number one priority.
Its not just coincidence that Umass and Memphis had to vacate wins and final four appearances. The funny thing is that Kentucky fans think all of this is simply a result of everyones "envy" for their program.
Oh trust me I will not try to convince you not to hate Calipari or anything UK related. Hate away...I just do not see how rational people can make the leap from 2 incidents of poor choices young men made to Calipari being involved. In the Camby situation Calipari was the one who reported it to the NCAA when he found out. What else could he have done? How you can stop anyone from accepting money? Once the NCAA clearing house cleared Rose to play is Calipari suppose to second guess them and not let him play? I am an open minded person but no one has ever connected the dots rationally as to why Calipari is guilty of anything other then perhaps his judgement with young men with questionable character. Given the age range of those he is in charge of I consider that a given.
As for Kentucky fans being bias I am sure that that is inevitable in any fan base. Keep in mind there is a flip side to that coin too. If people already have preconceived "hate/disdain" for a coach,player,program,etc then that is no less bias.
Sports fans(humans in general) grasp at anything to validate their hatred.
Until then do not let the facts get in the way of a good story.
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Quote Originally Posted by DaimondD:
Calipari was getting paid a ridiculous amount of money to know what was going on with his guys. His job was to know what his guys were doing. Rose was the biggest recuit coming out of high school that year and you dont think Calipari knew about his test scores? His # 1 priority was getting Rose into Memphis. Calipari knew anything and everything regarding Rose's acedemic situation. you really think he didnt know anything about Rose's test scores? that was his job and number one priority.
Its not just coincidence that Umass and Memphis had to vacate wins and final four appearances. The funny thing is that Kentucky fans think all of this is simply a result of everyones "envy" for their program.
Oh trust me I will not try to convince you not to hate Calipari or anything UK related. Hate away...I just do not see how rational people can make the leap from 2 incidents of poor choices young men made to Calipari being involved. In the Camby situation Calipari was the one who reported it to the NCAA when he found out. What else could he have done? How you can stop anyone from accepting money? Once the NCAA clearing house cleared Rose to play is Calipari suppose to second guess them and not let him play? I am an open minded person but no one has ever connected the dots rationally as to why Calipari is guilty of anything other then perhaps his judgement with young men with questionable character. Given the age range of those he is in charge of I consider that a given.
As for Kentucky fans being bias I am sure that that is inevitable in any fan base. Keep in mind there is a flip side to that coin too. If people already have preconceived "hate/disdain" for a coach,player,program,etc then that is no less bias.
Sports fans(humans in general) grasp at anything to validate their hatred.
Until then do not let the facts get in the way of a good story.
Because we have this ridiculous notion that the head
coach is responsible for everything that goes on in his program,
Calipari is taking the blame.
And it has become acceptable now to blame Calipari for
Marcus Camby's acceptance of money from two different agents in 1996,
even though the coach was cleared of any wrongdoing in that case. The
fact that Camby took money is being blamed on Calipari, and the
situations at UMass and Memphis are being linked in an attempt to imply
that Calipari is dirty in this matter as well. It is a cheap smear, and
one without evidence to back it up.
Call me old-fashioned, but I require established facts
and evidence before I call someone a cheater. I am not naive about the
way things work in basketball, because I see it every day. But there is
a difference between the problems with the culture in the game and
making specific allegations of academic fraud against an individual. We
all share the blame collectively for what is going on in the game, but
we should require more evidence and hard facts before we indict any
individual.
So far, the only "evidence" against Calipari is that he
was the head coach, and the head coach is responsible for everything
that happens on his watch, that he was the head coach at UMass when
Marcus Camby accepted money from an agent and the head coach is
responsible for everything that happens on his watch, and he's at
Memphis and he lets Worldwide Wes and the FedEx CEO hang around his
program.
I don't buy that the head coach is fully responsible
for everything that happens on his watch. The head coach and the
institution are responsible for what they know or reasonably should
have known. The key word there is "reasonably." No head coach can or
should be responsible for the actions of players well before they reach
campus, and no coach can reasonably be expected to police the entire
college basketball landscape for agents, runners and boosters.
Tarring
Calipari with Camby's acceptance of money from an agent 13 years ago is
similarly unpersuasive to me. If we were in court, such "evidence"
would not be admissible, because even though Calipari was cleared of
any improper action, it would be considered a "prior bad act" that is
more prejudicial than probative. The fact that Camby took money from
agents in 1996 proves nothing about Rose and his academic issues.
And
to continue to discredit Calipari with references to wrongdoing he
played no part in is simply wrong. If there is evidence that Calipari
knew about or participated in the alleged academic fraud, then bring it
forward. Just mentioning Camby and a vacated Final Four appearance does
not tell us anything about the current situation.
Maybe Calipari
and Memphis had a part in this alleged wrongdoing. But maybe, just
maybe, they did not. As reasonable people, we should establish the
facts first. Just because the NCAA alleges something doesn't make it
true.
We can always hang the head coach and take down the banners later, after we have proved the matters that are alleged.
Until then, a deep breath and some perspective wouldn't hurt.
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Because we have this ridiculous notion that the head
coach is responsible for everything that goes on in his program,
Calipari is taking the blame.
And it has become acceptable now to blame Calipari for
Marcus Camby's acceptance of money from two different agents in 1996,
even though the coach was cleared of any wrongdoing in that case. The
fact that Camby took money is being blamed on Calipari, and the
situations at UMass and Memphis are being linked in an attempt to imply
that Calipari is dirty in this matter as well. It is a cheap smear, and
one without evidence to back it up.
Call me old-fashioned, but I require established facts
and evidence before I call someone a cheater. I am not naive about the
way things work in basketball, because I see it every day. But there is
a difference between the problems with the culture in the game and
making specific allegations of academic fraud against an individual. We
all share the blame collectively for what is going on in the game, but
we should require more evidence and hard facts before we indict any
individual.
So far, the only "evidence" against Calipari is that he
was the head coach, and the head coach is responsible for everything
that happens on his watch, that he was the head coach at UMass when
Marcus Camby accepted money from an agent and the head coach is
responsible for everything that happens on his watch, and he's at
Memphis and he lets Worldwide Wes and the FedEx CEO hang around his
program.
I don't buy that the head coach is fully responsible
for everything that happens on his watch. The head coach and the
institution are responsible for what they know or reasonably should
have known. The key word there is "reasonably." No head coach can or
should be responsible for the actions of players well before they reach
campus, and no coach can reasonably be expected to police the entire
college basketball landscape for agents, runners and boosters.
Tarring
Calipari with Camby's acceptance of money from an agent 13 years ago is
similarly unpersuasive to me. If we were in court, such "evidence"
would not be admissible, because even though Calipari was cleared of
any improper action, it would be considered a "prior bad act" that is
more prejudicial than probative. The fact that Camby took money from
agents in 1996 proves nothing about Rose and his academic issues.
And
to continue to discredit Calipari with references to wrongdoing he
played no part in is simply wrong. If there is evidence that Calipari
knew about or participated in the alleged academic fraud, then bring it
forward. Just mentioning Camby and a vacated Final Four appearance does
not tell us anything about the current situation.
Maybe Calipari
and Memphis had a part in this alleged wrongdoing. But maybe, just
maybe, they did not. As reasonable people, we should establish the
facts first. Just because the NCAA alleges something doesn't make it
true.
We can always hang the head coach and take down the banners later, after we have proved the matters that are alleged.
Until then, a deep breath and some perspective wouldn't hurt.
Knight is simply calling the kettle a school wrecker here. Yeah sure, what Coach Cal did at UMASS and Memphis was far worse than anything else that Knight acted upon at IU and Tech. But just because one person shot a man, and another attempted too, doesn't mean you both aren't in the same boat...you both tried to take a life!
Bob has no room to talk about somebody wrecking a program. I love Knight, I love his old school ways, but he did damage at IU.
But I guess it's nothing that bad where they can bury you upside down so your critics can kiss your ass.
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Knight is simply calling the kettle a school wrecker here. Yeah sure, what Coach Cal did at UMASS and Memphis was far worse than anything else that Knight acted upon at IU and Tech. But just because one person shot a man, and another attempted too, doesn't mean you both aren't in the same boat...you both tried to take a life!
Bob has no room to talk about somebody wrecking a program. I love Knight, I love his old school ways, but he did damage at IU.
But I guess it's nothing that bad where they can bury you upside down so your critics can kiss your ass.
I cannot recall when I first heard the phrase "rush to
judgment," but it is now used so often and so forcefully by lawyers and
political commentators that it has lost all meaning. And nowhere do we
sports fans rush to judgment as often as we do when it comes to the
hint of any violation of NCAA rules.
When we hear of allegations
of NCAA rules violations, we all too readily assume guilt, blame only
the head coach in charge and get ourselves prepared for the penalty
phase. Instead of a public hanging, we call for things already hanging
publicly to be taken down.
Nobody is suggesting that compliance with NCAA rules is
not important. It is. But we must also acknowledge that the process is
flawed and unfair. We must also acknowledge that the rules are not
handed down from Mount Sinai. The rules themselves are horribly flawed.
The NCAA rule book is gigantic, and it is impossible to
properly interpret. One basketball program I know uses an interesting
system to determine what to do with regard to the NCAA's archaic rules.
When there is a question about an interpretation, three members of the
staff separately call the NCAA for an answer. Invariably, there are
three different interpretations provided by the NCAA, and the staff
then chooses the interpretation it likes the best.
The NCAA is
ill-equipped to gather facts and properly adjudicate these matters, and
the process is incredibly unfair to those alleged to have violated the
rules. As the system works now, you are guilty until you prove yourself
innocent. The NCAA does not make its allegations public, and does not
comment on investigations, yet the institutions are expected to air
everything publicly when accused of rules violations, investigate
themselves, and penalize themselves before the NCAA has to do it. While
there is an allegation pending, the NCAA rules mandate that any player
with a cloud will not compete until that cloud is affirmatively proven
to be untrue.
There is no burden of proof for the NCAA to
satisfy when it makes allegations. None. The NCAA is investigator,
prosecutor, judge, jury and executioner. The NCAA is allowed to believe
or disbelieve anyone involved in the process, and is allowed to
consider or disregard whatever evidence it likes, no matter how
unreliable it might be. It is a stacked and unfair process; there are
legitimate ethical questions at every step.
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I cannot recall when I first heard the phrase "rush to
judgment," but it is now used so often and so forcefully by lawyers and
political commentators that it has lost all meaning. And nowhere do we
sports fans rush to judgment as often as we do when it comes to the
hint of any violation of NCAA rules.
When we hear of allegations
of NCAA rules violations, we all too readily assume guilt, blame only
the head coach in charge and get ourselves prepared for the penalty
phase. Instead of a public hanging, we call for things already hanging
publicly to be taken down.
Nobody is suggesting that compliance with NCAA rules is
not important. It is. But we must also acknowledge that the process is
flawed and unfair. We must also acknowledge that the rules are not
handed down from Mount Sinai. The rules themselves are horribly flawed.
The NCAA rule book is gigantic, and it is impossible to
properly interpret. One basketball program I know uses an interesting
system to determine what to do with regard to the NCAA's archaic rules.
When there is a question about an interpretation, three members of the
staff separately call the NCAA for an answer. Invariably, there are
three different interpretations provided by the NCAA, and the staff
then chooses the interpretation it likes the best.
The NCAA is
ill-equipped to gather facts and properly adjudicate these matters, and
the process is incredibly unfair to those alleged to have violated the
rules. As the system works now, you are guilty until you prove yourself
innocent. The NCAA does not make its allegations public, and does not
comment on investigations, yet the institutions are expected to air
everything publicly when accused of rules violations, investigate
themselves, and penalize themselves before the NCAA has to do it. While
there is an allegation pending, the NCAA rules mandate that any player
with a cloud will not compete until that cloud is affirmatively proven
to be untrue.
There is no burden of proof for the NCAA to
satisfy when it makes allegations. None. The NCAA is investigator,
prosecutor, judge, jury and executioner. The NCAA is allowed to believe
or disbelieve anyone involved in the process, and is allowed to
consider or disregard whatever evidence it likes, no matter how
unreliable it might be. It is a stacked and unfair process; there are
legitimate ethical questions at every step.
This is hardly the first time such allegations have been
made after a prospect bolting for the NBA. After Kansas beat Memphis in
the 2008 title game, allegations surfaced that Darrell Arthur had a
grade changed when he was in high school in Dallas so he could compete
in the state tournament. The championship Arthur won was stripped, but
the Jayhawks did not suffer any penalties because it was determined
that there was no way KU could "reasonably" have known. The banner
remains hanging.
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This is hardly the first time such allegations have been
made after a prospect bolting for the NBA. After Kansas beat Memphis in
the 2008 title game, allegations surfaced that Darrell Arthur had a
grade changed when he was in high school in Dallas so he could compete
in the state tournament. The championship Arthur won was stripped, but
the Jayhawks did not suffer any penalties because it was determined
that there was no way KU could "reasonably" have known. The banner
remains hanging.
If you don't think Cal did the things (cheat) to bring in a "1 and done guy" like Rose to Memphis you are living under a Rock Trent. Was it maybe the CEO of FedEx that pulled the strings? probably. Im sure he didn't have John Wooden's thinking of "I don't care what you do, just not in my gym" like he said to the big UCLA "doners" that brought the Like of Lew Alcinder from NYC.
Cal knew he had to "just get him in" and he would have a chance to win it all. Funny, Wall was arrested months before he "picked" Tucky and Cal to come play for. Wonder what that cost?
These are just "FACTS". You can say I am judging too soon.
Do it once, shame on you. Do it twice, shame on me for thinking different.
I know how the "story" ends with tucky and Cal!!!
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If you don't think Cal did the things (cheat) to bring in a "1 and done guy" like Rose to Memphis you are living under a Rock Trent. Was it maybe the CEO of FedEx that pulled the strings? probably. Im sure he didn't have John Wooden's thinking of "I don't care what you do, just not in my gym" like he said to the big UCLA "doners" that brought the Like of Lew Alcinder from NYC.
Cal knew he had to "just get him in" and he would have a chance to win it all. Funny, Wall was arrested months before he "picked" Tucky and Cal to come play for. Wonder what that cost?
These are just "FACTS". You can say I am judging too soon.
Do it once, shame on you. Do it twice, shame on me for thinking different.
There's going to be the rush to judgment from a media crowd that made up its mind about Calipari a long time ago.
That's
the crowd that, despite what the record may show, believes Cal was
responsible for getting UMass in trouble with Marcus Camby, that he at
least knew about Derrick Rose's standardized test at Memphis, that he's
too close to William Wesley, that he's too good at getting star
recruits.
Thing is, Knight prides himself on being smarter than
the media herd he so often chastises. But turns out he is still what
he's always been, a bully. Only now he's a washed-up bully.
Before
a rapt audience Thursday night, Knight tried to make it sound like he
was the one too good for the game, when actually the game's grown too
good for him. The days of coaches abusively treating players and fans
and administrators is coming to a close. Ask Mark Mangino, the former
football coach at Kansas. He, too, has some time on his hands.
Remember,
we're talking about a coach who once put a feminine hygiene product
into a player's locker to show the player he wasn't tough enough.
And he's talking about integrity of the game?
That
"I'm clean" claim is Knight's tired old defense for his inexcusable
acts. And if you beat Bob, you must be a cheater. What other answer
could there be? Didn't matter if it was Joe B. Hall, or Lou Henson, or
Denny Crum, or Bill Frieder. Bob has always painted with a broad brush.
But
imagine the tables are turned, and it was John Calipari who was out of
coaching, and said, "We've gotten into this situation where
self-control is really lacking and that's why I'm glad I'm not
coaching. You see we've got a coach at (Indiana/Texas Tech) who throws
chairs, puts his hands on his players, berates administrators, and he's
still coaching. I really don't understand that."
Here's another
question: Why hasn't Knight said the same thing on ESPN? He was in New
York for the SEC/Big East Challenge, he could have easily made his
views on Calipari known to a national audience. Instead, he saved it
for an Indiana Basketball Hall of Fame fund-raiser, five days after the
Cats beat the Hoosiers in Assembly Hall.
Who's the calculated one?
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There's going to be the rush to judgment from a media crowd that made up its mind about Calipari a long time ago.
That's
the crowd that, despite what the record may show, believes Cal was
responsible for getting UMass in trouble with Marcus Camby, that he at
least knew about Derrick Rose's standardized test at Memphis, that he's
too close to William Wesley, that he's too good at getting star
recruits.
Thing is, Knight prides himself on being smarter than
the media herd he so often chastises. But turns out he is still what
he's always been, a bully. Only now he's a washed-up bully.
Before
a rapt audience Thursday night, Knight tried to make it sound like he
was the one too good for the game, when actually the game's grown too
good for him. The days of coaches abusively treating players and fans
and administrators is coming to a close. Ask Mark Mangino, the former
football coach at Kansas. He, too, has some time on his hands.
Remember,
we're talking about a coach who once put a feminine hygiene product
into a player's locker to show the player he wasn't tough enough.
And he's talking about integrity of the game?
That
"I'm clean" claim is Knight's tired old defense for his inexcusable
acts. And if you beat Bob, you must be a cheater. What other answer
could there be? Didn't matter if it was Joe B. Hall, or Lou Henson, or
Denny Crum, or Bill Frieder. Bob has always painted with a broad brush.
But
imagine the tables are turned, and it was John Calipari who was out of
coaching, and said, "We've gotten into this situation where
self-control is really lacking and that's why I'm glad I'm not
coaching. You see we've got a coach at (Indiana/Texas Tech) who throws
chairs, puts his hands on his players, berates administrators, and he's
still coaching. I really don't understand that."
Here's another
question: Why hasn't Knight said the same thing on ESPN? He was in New
York for the SEC/Big East Challenge, he could have easily made his
views on Calipari known to a national audience. Instead, he saved it
for an Indiana Basketball Hall of Fame fund-raiser, five days after the
Cats beat the Hoosiers in Assembly Hall.
If you don't think Cal did the things (cheat) to bring in a "1 and done guy" like Rose to Memphis you are living under a Rock Trent. Was it maybe the CEO of FedEx that pulled the strings? probably. Im sure he didn't have John Wooden's thinking of "I don't care what you do, just not in my gym" like he said to the big UCLA "doners" that brought the Like of Lew Alcinder from NYC.
Cal knew he had to "just get him in" and he would have a chance to win it all. Funny, Wall was arrested months before he "picked" Tucky and Cal to come play for. Wonder what that cost?
These are just "FACTS". You can say I am judging too soon.
Do it once, shame on you. Do it twice, shame on me for thinking different.
I know how the "story" ends with tucky and Cal!!!
Is the view better on the high horse than under the rock?
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Quote Originally Posted by bracks:
If you don't think Cal did the things (cheat) to bring in a "1 and done guy" like Rose to Memphis you are living under a Rock Trent. Was it maybe the CEO of FedEx that pulled the strings? probably. Im sure he didn't have John Wooden's thinking of "I don't care what you do, just not in my gym" like he said to the big UCLA "doners" that brought the Like of Lew Alcinder from NYC.
Cal knew he had to "just get him in" and he would have a chance to win it all. Funny, Wall was arrested months before he "picked" Tucky and Cal to come play for. Wonder what that cost?
These are just "FACTS". You can say I am judging too soon.
Do it once, shame on you. Do it twice, shame on me for thinking different.
I know how the "story" ends with tucky and Cal!!!
Is the view better on the high horse than under the rock?
Watching Bobby Knight over the past few decades you may wonder if he started his senility a little sooner than most. In any case,
with the comments he made last night at the Indiana Hall of Fame
dinner, it's obvious old age has gotten the best of him. It's also
worth noting Indiana is currently on probation (ironic?).
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Watching Bobby Knight over the past few decades you may wonder if he started his senility a little sooner than most. In any case,
with the comments he made last night at the Indiana Hall of Fame
dinner, it's obvious old age has gotten the best of him. It's also
worth noting Indiana is currently on probation (ironic?).
The
NCAA specifically mentioned Calipari in it's report on the Marcus Camby
incident as having no way of knowing what was happening, much less
having anything to do with the money Marcus received by a wanna-be
sports agent. I'll also note this money was given to Camby WHILE he was
at UMass in hopes he would sign with that agent when he became a
professional, not in an attempt to recruit Camby. The NCAA punished the
wrong people.
In
the case of Derrick Rose, the NCAA clearinghouse cleared him to play.
Enough said. It is not Memphis or John Calipari's responsibility to
second guess when the NCAA grants eligibility to a player. And has it
struck anyone that pretty much every school in the country would have
gladly taken this kid who was deemed eligible? Once again, the NCAA
punished the wrong people. They should have punished themselves.
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FACTS:
The
NCAA specifically mentioned Calipari in it's report on the Marcus Camby
incident as having no way of knowing what was happening, much less
having anything to do with the money Marcus received by a wanna-be
sports agent. I'll also note this money was given to Camby WHILE he was
at UMass in hopes he would sign with that agent when he became a
professional, not in an attempt to recruit Camby. The NCAA punished the
wrong people.
In
the case of Derrick Rose, the NCAA clearinghouse cleared him to play.
Enough said. It is not Memphis or John Calipari's responsibility to
second guess when the NCAA grants eligibility to a player. And has it
struck anyone that pretty much every school in the country would have
gladly taken this kid who was deemed eligible? Once again, the NCAA
punished the wrong people. They should have punished themselves.
BLAH, BLah, Blah......blah!!! All I hear is a bunch of whining pukes shakin in their boots because they all know that UK is back after 13 years from the TOP of this sport and Big Blue Nation is gonna hang banners in RUPP real soon. I cannot figure it out college basketball is a much better place with UK on top no questions asked because we bring the best out of everyone.....now if you expect your coach to do the NCAA's job or tell the future about what a player is gonna do then you are a DREAMER....Coach Cal has done nothing wrong and I cannot wait to sit back and watch all of you squirm in your seats as UK takes it rightful spot atop NCAAB.
Now to the tune of HERE COMES SANTA CLAUSE:
Here comes John Wall
Here comes John Wall
Right down thru the lane
Breaking Ankles
Scoring baskets
Driving you insane.
Merry Christmas to All!!!!!!!!!
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BLAH, BLah, Blah......blah!!! All I hear is a bunch of whining pukes shakin in their boots because they all know that UK is back after 13 years from the TOP of this sport and Big Blue Nation is gonna hang banners in RUPP real soon. I cannot figure it out college basketball is a much better place with UK on top no questions asked because we bring the best out of everyone.....now if you expect your coach to do the NCAA's job or tell the future about what a player is gonna do then you are a DREAMER....Coach Cal has done nothing wrong and I cannot wait to sit back and watch all of you squirm in your seats as UK takes it rightful spot atop NCAAB.
Knight could not be more right, the NCAA needs more Bobby Knights its a shame they do not look at it like that. How Calipari is still coaching is an absolute joke and disgrace. Pizza boy we all make mistakes geez the chair throwing was 25 years ago and well the choking all allegations.... see the problem with kids today you cant tell them what to do and get into their face, they all expect something even when they lose.
DaMN right man, look at Kansas coach, he gave a player a little spank on the ass and he got fired.
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Quote Originally Posted by ctconnection:
Knight could not be more right, the NCAA needs more Bobby Knights its a shame they do not look at it like that. How Calipari is still coaching is an absolute joke and disgrace. Pizza boy we all make mistakes geez the chair throwing was 25 years ago and well the choking all allegations.... see the problem with kids today you cant tell them what to do and get into their face, they all expect something even when they lose.
DaMN right man, look at Kansas coach, he gave a player a little spank on the ass and he got fired.
The
NCAA specifically mentioned Calipari in it's report on the Marcus Camby
incident as having no way of knowing what was happening, much less
having anything to do with the money Marcus received by a wanna-be
sports agent. I'll also note this money was given to Camby WHILE he was
at UMass in hopes he would sign with that agent when he became a
professional, not in an attempt to recruit Camby. The NCAA punished the
wrong people.
In
the case of Derrick Rose, the NCAA clearinghouse cleared him to play.
Enough said. It is not Memphis or John Calipari's responsibility to
second guess when the NCAA grants eligibility to a player. And has it
struck anyone that pretty much every school in the country would have
gladly taken this kid who was deemed eligible? Once again, the NCAA
punished the wrong people. They should have punished themselves.
Amazing how it just keeps happening to poor old Coach Cal. Rrrright...
Plenty of programs went out of their way to avoid Rose, and for good reason. And Wall always wanted to go to Carolina, but Carolina inexplicably did not offer. Hmmm...I guess they can't evaluate talent there. And neither can Duke.Sure thing!!!
Cal is an innocent naif, so honest he gets fooled time and again by sleazy 18 year olds.Uh huh. Sure.
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Quote Originally Posted by TRENT13:
FACTS:
The
NCAA specifically mentioned Calipari in it's report on the Marcus Camby
incident as having no way of knowing what was happening, much less
having anything to do with the money Marcus received by a wanna-be
sports agent. I'll also note this money was given to Camby WHILE he was
at UMass in hopes he would sign with that agent when he became a
professional, not in an attempt to recruit Camby. The NCAA punished the
wrong people.
In
the case of Derrick Rose, the NCAA clearinghouse cleared him to play.
Enough said. It is not Memphis or John Calipari's responsibility to
second guess when the NCAA grants eligibility to a player. And has it
struck anyone that pretty much every school in the country would have
gladly taken this kid who was deemed eligible? Once again, the NCAA
punished the wrong people. They should have punished themselves.
Amazing how it just keeps happening to poor old Coach Cal. Rrrright...
Plenty of programs went out of their way to avoid Rose, and for good reason. And Wall always wanted to go to Carolina, but Carolina inexplicably did not offer. Hmmm...I guess they can't evaluate talent there. And neither can Duke.Sure thing!!!
Cal is an innocent naif, so honest he gets fooled time and again by sleazy 18 year olds.Uh huh. Sure.
BLAH, BLah, Blah......blah!!! All I hear is a bunch of whining pukes shakin in their boots because they all know that UK is back after 13 years from the TOP of this sport and Big Blue Nation is gonna hang banners in RUPP real soon. I cannot figure it out college basketball is a much better place with UK on top no questions asked because we bring the best out of everyone.....now if you expect your coach to do the NCAA's job or tell the future about what a player is gonna do then you are a DREAMER....Coach Cal has done nothing wrong and I cannot wait to sit back and watch all of you squirm in your seats as UK takes it rightful spot atop NCAAB.
Now to the tune of HERE COMES SANTA CLAUSE:
Here comes John Wall
Here comes John Wall
Right down thru the lane
Breaking Ankles
Scoring baskets
Driving you insane.
Merry Christmas to All!!!!!!!!!
How does it feel to be the first sucker to fall for calipari's bullsh*t? He's one hell of a car salesman isnt he?
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Quote Originally Posted by bps2004:
BLAH, BLah, Blah......blah!!! All I hear is a bunch of whining pukes shakin in their boots because they all know that UK is back after 13 years from the TOP of this sport and Big Blue Nation is gonna hang banners in RUPP real soon. I cannot figure it out college basketball is a much better place with UK on top no questions asked because we bring the best out of everyone.....now if you expect your coach to do the NCAA's job or tell the future about what a player is gonna do then you are a DREAMER....Coach Cal has done nothing wrong and I cannot wait to sit back and watch all of you squirm in your seats as UK takes it rightful spot atop NCAAB.
Now to the tune of HERE COMES SANTA CLAUSE:
Here comes John Wall
Here comes John Wall
Right down thru the lane
Breaking Ankles
Scoring baskets
Driving you insane.
Merry Christmas to All!!!!!!!!!
How does it feel to be the first sucker to fall for calipari's bullsh*t? He's one hell of a car salesman isnt he?
knight love him or hate him really didnt cheat in recruiting. a kids parents knew their kid would get their degree and play for a very demanding coach who would make them understand college and also how to win. knight didnt get kids from city places. ny,philly, la, dc. and many other places.
however in caliparis defense. he along with probably 95 percent of coaches today go get the talent . wherever and however they can get it. so i wouldnt crucify calipari. bobby knight has spoken the truth about the places cal has been.
i love knight for how he coached and the way he handled the media . but bob the world has changed and one thing for sure that wont change is that the colleges and alumni will continue to cheat and it wont be stopped.
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my opinion on bobby knight blasting calipari.
knight love him or hate him really didnt cheat in recruiting. a kids parents knew their kid would get their degree and play for a very demanding coach who would make them understand college and also how to win. knight didnt get kids from city places. ny,philly, la, dc. and many other places.
however in caliparis defense. he along with probably 95 percent of coaches today go get the talent . wherever and however they can get it. so i wouldnt crucify calipari. bobby knight has spoken the truth about the places cal has been.
i love knight for how he coached and the way he handled the media . but bob the world has changed and one thing for sure that wont change is that the colleges and alumni will continue to cheat and it wont be stopped.
here we go again 1st it was rupp, then he bashed hall. then he pounded sutton and pitino, now calipari hope he is around long enough to whine about the next uk coach from his nursing home bed and i bet he bitches about the help there
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here we go again 1st it was rupp, then he bashed hall. then he pounded sutton and pitino, now calipari hope he is around long enough to whine about the next uk coach from his nursing home bed and i bet he bitches about the help there
Calipari is just very good at covering his tracks so none of his indiscretion would come back to him directly and then he plays dumb like he never knew what was going on.
He knew about Rose and Camby. He is a grade A snake who is bad for the college game.
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Knight tells it like it is.
Calipari is just very good at covering his tracks so none of his indiscretion would come back to him directly and then he plays dumb like he never knew what was going on.
He knew about Rose and Camby. He is a grade A snake who is bad for the college game.
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