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who has the rebounding edge
 
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that puerto rican pg for k st cant shoot or dribble god help him
 
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I just know that 'cuse is one of the worst defensive rebounding teams in the nation.  Really hurts when they are matched up against a team who is good on the off boards.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Johnnyg7:



The Big East beat 1 power six conference team (Cinci over Texas who sucked).


Kstate isnt much better than Texas. If you look at their head to head matchups you'll find them pretty even.
 
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FAB MELO is OUT tomorrow.   
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Professional1:

that puerto rican pg for k st cant shoot or dribble god help him


Not much worse than Triche.  Guy is way overrated. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by PokerProErik:

FAB MELO is OUT tomorrow.   


No SHIT.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by mtndew146:

who has the rebounding edge
    Shooting percentages play a big part in the rebound margin.  If you don't miss, there's no rebounds.  Just saying.  BOL
 
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When KSU is getting off rebound after rebound and has 20+ 2ND chance pts I wont say I told you so.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Crashdavis565:

The Big East just kicked the shit (again like every year) out of the rest of the NCAA. You get the Big East champion against a mediocre KSU squad from a mediocre division and you only have to give 4.5?
Are you kidding me, this line should be 7-9 at LEAST!
Here is the best part, 60% of covers are on KSU.




Mediocre division? I guess you mean conference, and the Big 12 was NOT mediocre this year.  Kansas, Mizzou and Baylor all were ranked in the top 5 for large portions of the season.   Not to mention Iowa State and Texas.  KSU is also not a mediocre squad, they are well coached and they have good size and are tough.

Would you have considered Lehigh or Norfolk "mediocre" before today?  Tournament is all about matchups, and right now w/o Melo Cuse does not match up well with KSU.   You think the Books are just going to hang a 1 seed and consensus #1 team in the country for half the season @4 points and its going to be an easy romp for them? 

Cuse could easily cover, but imo there are plenty of better spots in this round.   Good luck. 


 
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im on k state ml ...syracuse didnt look that impressive to me without their big guy. heyy anything can happen!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Crashdavis565:

 
1.)The Big East just kicked the shit (again like every year) out of the rest of the NCAA. 
2.)You get the Big East champion against a mediocre KSU squad from a mediocre division and you only have to give 4.5?
3.)Are you kidding me, this line should be 7-9 at LEAST!
4.)Here is the best part, 60% of covers are on KSU.


 

Please don't take offense to any of my responses...
1.) This is without a doubt embedded into the head's of millions world wide (Including the betting market place). Surely you don't think Vegas would just hand over any portion of cash free of charge...
2.) Once again IMO you are completely following a guideline here that is also noted into the heads of millions...
3.) Please forgive me as I can assure you with 100% confidence the books are not kidding and yet they are 100% serious. If you like Syracuse that much taking them -4.5 is just one click away...
4.) Check that % closer to game time after public america awakes from a night of leisure and starts clicking the laying chalk button. It may not flip flop but I'd be willing to guess Syracuse will have no trouble reaching 45% or more at most sites. Also in the process watch the -4.5 most likely shrink before game time...

Here's some things that I like to note on a game of this magnitude:

Did you know that Syracuse is 8-2su & 7-3ats this season vs defenses that rank from 50-100 in the fg% allowed department. In that same category of opponents that rank from 1-50 the Orange are a perfect 7-0su but they have not gotten to that point without any trouble as they are actually money burning 2-5ats vs 1-50 ranked opponents in fg% allowed (Georgetown, Uconn x3, L-Ville x2 & USF). That's very interesting as Kansas State comes into this game ranked 45th nationally in the FG% allowed department. It should also be noted that of all those opponents played listed in the 1-50 rank of FG% allowed Kansas State has the highest ranked offense of any of them at 80th with 71.4ppg. Georgetown#147(68.4ppg), Uconn#139(68.7ppg), L-Ville#137(68.8ppg) & USF#325(59ppg) are all below that of Kansas States 71.4ppg. So you can call them mediocre but as far as conference SOS & RPI the B12 is right behind the Big East coming in at #3 in both categories. I'll take those points with Frank Martin coaching your so called "Mediocre team in a Mediocre conference" vs this over hyped Syracuse squad... 

Give me those +4.5 pts with confidence...

Just saying, BOL!!!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by oddsbuster:

 

Please don't take offense to any of my responses...
1.) This is without a doubt embedded into the head's of millions world wide (Including the betting market place). Surely you don't think Vegas would just hand over any portion of cash free of charge...
2.) Once again IMO you are completely following a guideline here that is also noted into the heads of millions...
3.) Please forgive me as I can assure you with 100% confidence the books are not kidding and yet they are 100% serious. If you like Syracuse that much taking them -4.5 is just one click away...
4.) Check that % closer to game time after public america awakes from a night of leisure and starts clicking the laying chalk button. It may not flip flop but I'd be willing to guess Syracuse will have no trouble reaching 45% or more at most sites. Also in the process watch the -4.5 most likely shrink before game time...

Here's some things that I like to note on a game of this magnitude:

Did you know that Syracuse is 8-2su & 7-3ats this season vs defenses that rank from 50-100 in the fg% allowed department. In that same category of opponents that rank from 1-50 the Orange are a perfect 7-0su but they have not gotten to that point without any trouble as they are actually money burning 2-5ats vs 1-50 ranked opponents in fg% allowed (Georgetown, Uconn x3, L-Ville x2 & USF). That's very interesting as Kansas State comes into this game ranked 45th nationally in the FG% allowed department. It should also be noted that of all those opponents played listed in the 1-50 rank of FG% allowed Kansas State has the highest ranked offense of any of them at 80th with 71.4ppg. Georgetown#147(68.4ppg), Uconn#139(68.7ppg), L-Ville#137(68.8ppg) & USF#325(59ppg) are all below that of Kansas States 71.4ppg. So you can call them mediocre but as far as conference SOS & RPI the B12 is right behind the Big East coming in at #3 in both categories. I'll take those points with Frank Martin coaching your so called "Mediocre team in a Mediocre conference" vs this over hyped Syracuse squad... 

Give me those +4.5 pts with confidence...

Just saying, BOL!!!
Correction... Just got +5 right now. Maybe public america is waking up a little early this morning...
 
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Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:



No SHIT.

 
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LET GOOOO!!!! gonna lock in this bet and sleep in.

hopefully its a winna
 
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Quote Originally Posted by gamblingallday:



Kstate isnt much better than Texas. If you look at their head to head matchups you'll find them pretty even.
The Wildcats lost at Texas by 11 but beat Texas on their home floor by 4. What exactly is your point with the Texas reference? So let's just say they are even just to give you credit for something that makes absolutely no sense. What on earth is your point? To me the head to head research proves nothing more than a classic home court advantage within conference play schedule which has absolutely no bearing what so ever on this game. I truly hope you are making a wager based on what you have just said... 
 
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Odds, you going to make a thread and post any of your insight?

Would be much appreciated. I missed gettin after it earlier this season with you.

Cheers mate, I sent you a friend request as well.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by oddsbuster:

 

Please don't take offense to any of my responses...
1.) This is without a doubt embedded into the head's of millions world wide (Including the betting market place). Surely you don't think Vegas would just hand over any portion of cash free of charge...
2.) Once again IMO you are completely following a guideline here that is also noted into the heads of millions...
3.) Please forgive me as I can assure you with 100% confidence the books are not kidding and yet they are 100% serious. If you like Syracuse that much taking them -4.5 is just one click away...
4.) Check that % closer to game time after public america awakes from a night of leisure and starts clicking the laying chalk button. It may not flip flop but I'd be willing to guess Syracuse will have no trouble reaching 45% or more at most sites. Also in the process watch the -4.5 most likely shrink before game time...

Here's some things that I like to note on a game of this magnitude:

Did you know that Syracuse is 8-2su & 7-3ats this season vs defenses that rank from 50-100 in the fg% allowed department. In that same category of opponents that rank from 1-50 the Orange are a perfect 7-0su but they have not gotten to that point without any trouble as they are actually money burning 2-5ats vs 1-50 ranked opponents in fg% allowed (Georgetown, Uconn x3, L-Ville x2 & USF). That's very interesting as Kansas State comes into this game ranked 45th nationally in the FG% allowed department. It should also be noted that of all those opponents played listed in the 1-50 rank of FG% allowed Kansas State has the highest ranked offense of any of them at 80th with 71.4ppg. Georgetown#147(68.4ppg), Uconn#139(68.7ppg), L-Ville#137(68.8ppg) & USF#325(59ppg) are all below that of Kansas States 71.4ppg. So you can call them mediocre but as far as conference SOS & RPI the B12 is right behind the Big East coming in at #3 in both categories. I'll take those points with Frank Martin coaching your so called "Mediocre team in a Mediocre conference" vs this over hyped Syracuse squad... 

Give me those +4.5 pts with confidence...

Just saying, BOL!!!


While I'm on Cuse, I must say that was great fucking post. Too many people just wanna rebuttal without reason or evidence. Post like this make people money. That said, I think you're overlooking the Melo/UNC-A factor. It's mentioned every time Cuse comes up, TV, radio, internet(excluding your post), everywhere. It seems everyone is calling for the 8-1 upset, everyone feels this should be closer to pick 'em. I see the majority of tomorrow morning's wagers on K-state. That doesn't mean they won't cover, it very well could be a close game, where 5 points would be crucial. My money will be on Cuse ML. The talent disparity between the two can't be disputed. On a neutral court I feel confident the one-seeded Cuse will advance to the second weekend. 
 
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Oh and

Quote Originally Posted by PokerProErik:

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Quote Originally Posted by Crashdavis565:




psssssst, the tourney has always and will always belong to the Guards.

Tell that to Cincy who hopped on Yancy Gate's back for a piggy back ride into the victory column behind his 15pts & 10reb's. Or ask Michigan how their guard play was able to help them yesterday as I think they are still waiting for a 3 pointer to fall because they couldn't make a layup. And I absolutely dare you to ask Florida st on their guard play yesterday as Bernard James was needed along with his 19pts & 9reb's to mount a comeback win on a night when guard Michael Snare went 0 for 7 including 0 for 5 from 3 pt land (FSU's guards went a combined 9 for 30 in that win)...

That's just a few teams that would be willing to throw this comment in the trash without hesitation...
 
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I also recently got K- ST +5......Cuse is just not the same without their 7 footer.....The only loss The Orange had during the regular season was a game when Melo was out and I think he only missed a few games this year......Notre Dame had the luxary of playing Cuse without Melo and they absolutely dominated the paint and crashed the boards and won.....If Melo was in there that dosent happen........Now they have to play K-ST  who are one of the better rebounding  teams in the country because they pull down the offensive rebounds as well.......Melo had 80-90 blocks this season leading the team, the next guy up had like 20, he is a big piece of what they do on "D".......Wildcats will have the upperhand in the paint and on the boards and they will have the best player who is also the best guard in the game in McGruder.........I think this will be a tight game....5 points is a gift.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by theguru1:

Kansas St barely beat Southern Miss and if the guards are so important, then why did Mizzouri lose? they clearly have the best overall guards. Syracuse is a gift at -4.5.
OHHH, I know, I know. Please pick me I have an answer. Because Kyle O'uinn is a beast. I bet them in all 3 games that had spreads early in the season as they cashed easily as +15, +6 & +22 dogs winning outright in those games 2 times (TCU & Drexel). Please note that Drexel was without Chris Fouch but still. That was the only 3 times you could bet on Norfolk during the regular season (Sad face). By the time post season got here the books had the heavy chalk ready with in their conference. So i passed and wouldn't you know it they went 3-0su & 2-1ats in their conference Tourney to finish the season at 5-1su & 5-1ats in lined games. I was not on Norfolk yesterday +21 because I have avoided fading Mizzo in any spot this season (18-10-2ats) as I was also a believer they were ready for a primed run. So after all my rambling Mizzo lost because Norfolk is a bad ass fucking basketball team. They may not win another game but I can honestly say I wouldn't be the least bit shocked to see them beat Florida on on Sunday after they have put together a season with notable wins vs Drexel, TCU & Toledo and now Mizzo to put on that list along with a 2pt loss to Marquette that followed up the early season Drexel & TCU wins...

Go Norfolk!!!!
 
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*Kyle O'Quinn...
 
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Kansas with the upset tomorrow, better team imo Cuse is barely winning as well
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by BlaineTheMono:



While I'm on Cuse, I must say that was great fucking post. Too many people just wanna rebuttal without reason or evidence. Post like this make people money. That said, I think you're overlooking the Melo/UNC-A factor. It's mentioned every time Cuse comes up, TV, radio, internet(excluding your post), everywhere. It seems everyone is calling for the 8-1 upset, everyone feels this should be closer to pick 'em. I see the majority of tomorrow morning's wagers on K-state. That doesn't mean they won't cover, it very well could be a close game, where 5 points would be crucial. My money will be on Cuse ML. The talent disparity between the two can't be disputed. On a neutral court I feel confident the one-seeded Cuse will advance to the second weekend. 
There is absolutely no way around it. His nick name is Fab and he's 7 foot tall & he just so happens to play for the #1 RPI team in the nation. I'm pretty sure I may be able to find out what Fab ate last night for dinner along with his upcoming breakfast Saturday morning with a little research. Of course we are going to constantly here every analyst talk about No Melo this, and No Melo that. It's inevitable that it plays out this way in the media world as it's their job to report to us all the have and have not's of these games. As a bettor I have learned to block out the stupid talk from the heavily publicized media portion of the world and conduct my betting on a manor that suit's the thought's in my head along with a mass amount of stats and trends of course. So to me it just so happens that a very tall player on a decent basketball team is out. Don't really understand what you mean by me overlooking Fab/UNC-A factor? Nothing of serious signification happened in that game that would lead me to believe Syracuse has an easy time this time around yet again vs another top tier defensive squad...
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