i figured it's a waste when my record hasn't changed since Sunday
locked in: South Florida +13.5 (-110) @ Cincinnati
-The Bulls have been very good to me this year covering in losses to
Cleveland State and UCF. Cincinnati has played one of the weakest
non-conference schedules and I think this line is far too high. Cincy
isn't good enough as a team to push the pace for 40 minutes and I don't
think Mick Cronin will want to do that even though it would clearly
benefit Cincy here. Stan Heath will slow the pace, which makes the 13.5
points look like 20 (similar to my reasoning in the SLU-Temple game on
Sunday when 15.5 felt like 25) and it also requires a blowout to lose.
The number is above the point when USF would stop fouling and even then
that would require a team that always struggles at the line to make a
ton of FTs or to sink a ton of shots. Cincy isn't that team against a
tough defense like USF. The Bulls will need a good effort from
Gilchrist & Famous on the interior because their guards aren't
great scorers, which could be tough with Gates and Ibrahima Thomas on
the interior. I think they can hold their own and make it tough for UC
on the offensive end so as long as it's a battle this should be a tight
game. Villanova -4 (-110) vs. Louisville
-This line opened too short and I thought it would move a ton. It did
not, but I'll stick with 'Nova because in a battle of overrated teams
the visitor is far more overrated. The Wildcats are guard heavy and
will be able to break the press while they're going to get more calls
at home and they will shoot better there, too. Meanwhile, UL has
trouble scoring enough at home as compared to the road and they will
struggle here with the speed on the perimeter and Nova's length on the
interior. I'm expecting Nova to get some easy baskets after breaking
the press and they shoot FT well so if they can't cover the 4 then I
really don't know what to say.
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Quote Originally Posted by chinawigga:
no new thread for today?
i figured it's a waste when my record hasn't changed since Sunday
locked in: South Florida +13.5 (-110) @ Cincinnati
-The Bulls have been very good to me this year covering in losses to
Cleveland State and UCF. Cincinnati has played one of the weakest
non-conference schedules and I think this line is far too high. Cincy
isn't good enough as a team to push the pace for 40 minutes and I don't
think Mick Cronin will want to do that even though it would clearly
benefit Cincy here. Stan Heath will slow the pace, which makes the 13.5
points look like 20 (similar to my reasoning in the SLU-Temple game on
Sunday when 15.5 felt like 25) and it also requires a blowout to lose.
The number is above the point when USF would stop fouling and even then
that would require a team that always struggles at the line to make a
ton of FTs or to sink a ton of shots. Cincy isn't that team against a
tough defense like USF. The Bulls will need a good effort from
Gilchrist & Famous on the interior because their guards aren't
great scorers, which could be tough with Gates and Ibrahima Thomas on
the interior. I think they can hold their own and make it tough for UC
on the offensive end so as long as it's a battle this should be a tight
game. Villanova -4 (-110) vs. Louisville
-This line opened too short and I thought it would move a ton. It did
not, but I'll stick with 'Nova because in a battle of overrated teams
the visitor is far more overrated. The Wildcats are guard heavy and
will be able to break the press while they're going to get more calls
at home and they will shoot better there, too. Meanwhile, UL has
trouble scoring enough at home as compared to the road and they will
struggle here with the speed on the perimeter and Nova's length on the
interior. I'm expecting Nova to get some easy baskets after breaking
the press and they shoot FT well so if they can't cover the 4 then I
really don't know what to say.
Odd to say the least, but I can't go off of kenpom for everything yet I do listen to him for totals plays just to make sure i'm in the realm.
I think FSU is the right side, but if Duke gets off to a good start or even if they don't and hit a few 3pt shots then I'm not sure FSU will keep up. Duke is also the master of the frontdoor cover, as I'm sure you know, so no thanks even tho FSU's defense is unreal
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Quote Originally Posted by woopdurritis:
Duke -7.5
Kenpom has Duke winning by 16
Odd to say the least, but I can't go off of kenpom for everything yet I do listen to him for totals plays just to make sure i'm in the realm.
I think FSU is the right side, but if Duke gets off to a good start or even if they don't and hit a few 3pt shots then I'm not sure FSU will keep up. Duke is also the master of the frontdoor cover, as I'm sure you know, so no thanks even tho FSU's defense is unreal
Nice card today Bro, like all games except USF, u should look into SDST
GL
If I could have grabbed it at 4.5 like it was for a bit last night I would have, but the FT woes scare me for covering a 5.5 line. I think they will win this game and they need to if they're a championship contender, which I think they are.
leans: GTown -2.5 Hall -3
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Quote Originally Posted by wizkid30:
Nice card today Bro, like all games except USF, u should look into SDST
GL
If I could have grabbed it at 4.5 like it was for a bit last night I would have, but the FT woes scare me for covering a 5.5 line. I think they will win this game and they need to if they're a championship contender, which I think they are.
The way I look at it is FSU obviously has great defense but their offense is anemic and even non-existent at times. They will need to play their best defense for this one to be close own the stretch... Like you said any Duke run 10-0 or 40% from downtown = no shot for FSU... they simply can't put up points the same way as Duke.
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The way I look at it is FSU obviously has great defense but their offense is anemic and even non-existent at times. They will need to play their best defense for this one to be close own the stretch... Like you said any Duke run 10-0 or 40% from downtown = no shot for FSU... they simply can't put up points the same way as Duke.
I have been writing down the the kenpom final scores 2 days in advance just to keep track. Its amazing the amount of times the predicted final score on a big game is the opening line.
Playing GT, Cuse and the Hall tonight. GL
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gw- Long time brother, keep up the wining.
I have been writing down the the kenpom final scores 2 days in advance just to keep track. Its amazing the amount of times the predicted final score on a big game is the opening line.
The way I look at it is FSU obviously has great defense but their offense is anemic and even non-existent at times. They will need to play their best defense for this one to be close own the stretch... Like you said any Duke run 10-0 or 40% from downtown = no shot for FSU... they simply can't put up points the same way as Duke.
completely agree, woop
drb-- I have looked at kenpom a lot in the past, but i haven't noticed how much the lines mirror him and I actually like it because it's given me a few winners this year wherever I don't agree with Ken
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Quote Originally Posted by woopdurritis:
The way I look at it is FSU obviously has great defense but their offense is anemic and even non-existent at times. They will need to play their best defense for this one to be close own the stretch... Like you said any Duke run 10-0 or 40% from downtown = no shot for FSU... they simply can't put up points the same way as Duke.
completely agree, woop
drb-- I have looked at kenpom a lot in the past, but i haven't noticed how much the lines mirror him and I actually like it because it's given me a few winners this year wherever I don't agree with Ken
add Seton Hall -3 (-105) @ DePaul -The Pirates are far better than DePaul and they have the guards in Jordan Theodore and Keon Lawrence to break Oliver Purnell's press. More importantly, I don't think DePaul has the shooters on the perimeter to beat the zone. They may not even have one shooter considering they make 27.6% of their 3pt shots good for 335th in the nation. The Hall aren't a great group of players, but their coach Kevin Willard knows what he's doing and this game is one that the Pirates know they can win and they will be motivated to take charge early. SHU's heart and soul Jeremy Hazell may be back, too, which is unbelievable news if true. Georgetown -2.5 (-103) vs. Pittsburgh -I've been looking to fade Pitt because I don't think they're good and this is as good of a time as any. I was hoping for a -1.5 here, but I think GTown has the shooters to ice the game down the stretch. The main reason for this play is I think GU matches up well on defense with whatever Pitt wants to do. The Panthers won't win if they run tonight and I think they'll lose if they play like they used to, too. Julian Vaughn should be able to keep Gary McGhee off the glass, Chris Wright will stop Woodall off the bench or Wannamaker if he draws that assignment. The only real offensive threats for Pitt are Wannamaker and Ashton Gibbs mainly because Gilbert Brown is only consequential when he gets left wide open because their opponents can't stop those two guys. I think we see Jason Clark and Austin Freeman slowing the go-two-guys (see what I did there?) and the Pitt bench doesn't feature any scorers. Besides the HCA, this game is a must-win for GTown and I think they get it done. Syracuse-St. John's UNDER 62 (-110, 1H) -Avoiding full-game unders for now to avoid overtime, especially in this one because I think it will be close. Both teams will play zone and MSG isn't friendly to long-distance shooting. I think buckets will be hard to come by in the interior, and both teams are poor from the line. Syracuse shoots 64.4% and St. John's is at 69.2% when you want your team to be above 70% to be considered competent/good. Hoping we don't get into the bonus early...
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huge card today...
add Seton Hall -3 (-105) @ DePaul -The Pirates are far better than DePaul and they have the guards in Jordan Theodore and Keon Lawrence to break Oliver Purnell's press. More importantly, I don't think DePaul has the shooters on the perimeter to beat the zone. They may not even have one shooter considering they make 27.6% of their 3pt shots good for 335th in the nation. The Hall aren't a great group of players, but their coach Kevin Willard knows what he's doing and this game is one that the Pirates know they can win and they will be motivated to take charge early. SHU's heart and soul Jeremy Hazell may be back, too, which is unbelievable news if true. Georgetown -2.5 (-103) vs. Pittsburgh -I've been looking to fade Pitt because I don't think they're good and this is as good of a time as any. I was hoping for a -1.5 here, but I think GTown has the shooters to ice the game down the stretch. The main reason for this play is I think GU matches up well on defense with whatever Pitt wants to do. The Panthers won't win if they run tonight and I think they'll lose if they play like they used to, too. Julian Vaughn should be able to keep Gary McGhee off the glass, Chris Wright will stop Woodall off the bench or Wannamaker if he draws that assignment. The only real offensive threats for Pitt are Wannamaker and Ashton Gibbs mainly because Gilbert Brown is only consequential when he gets left wide open because their opponents can't stop those two guys. I think we see Jason Clark and Austin Freeman slowing the go-two-guys (see what I did there?) and the Pitt bench doesn't feature any scorers. Besides the HCA, this game is a must-win for GTown and I think they get it done. Syracuse-St. John's UNDER 62 (-110, 1H) -Avoiding full-game unders for now to avoid overtime, especially in this one because I think it will be close. Both teams will play zone and MSG isn't friendly to long-distance shooting. I think buckets will be hard to come by in the interior, and both teams are poor from the line. Syracuse shoots 64.4% and St. John's is at 69.2% when you want your team to be above 70% to be considered competent/good. Hoping we don't get into the bonus early...
add Seton Hall -3 (-105) @ DePaul -The Pirates are far better than DePaul and they have the guards in Jordan Theodore and Keon Lawrence to break Oliver Purnell's press. More importantly, I don't think DePaul has the shooters on the perimeter to beat the zone. They may not even have one shooter considering they make 27.6% of their 3pt shots good for 335th in the nation. The Hall aren't a great group of players, but their coach Kevin Willard knows what he's doing and this game is one that the Pirates know they can win and they will be motivated to take charge early. SHU's heart and soul Jeremy Hazell may be back, too, which is unbelievable news if true. Georgetown -2.5 (-103) vs. Pittsburgh -I've been looking to fade Pitt because I don't think they're good and this is as good of a time as any. I was hoping for a -1.5 here, but I think GTown has the shooters to ice the game down the stretch. The main reason for this play is I think GU matches up well on defense with whatever Pitt wants to do. The Panthers won't win if they run tonight and I think they'll lose if they play like they used to, too. Julian Vaughn should be able to keep Gary McGhee off the glass, Chris Wright will stop Woodall off the bench or Wannamaker if he draws that assignment. The only real offensive threats for Pitt are Wannamaker and Ashton Gibbs mainly because Gilbert Brown is only consequential when he gets left wide open because their opponents can't stop those two guys. I think we see Jason Clark and Austin Freeman slowing the go-two-guys (see what I did there?) and the Pitt bench doesn't feature any scorers. Besides the HCA, this game is a must-win for GTown and I think they get it done. Syracuse-St. John's UNDER 62 (-110, 1H) -Avoiding full-game unders for now to avoid overtime, especially in this one because I think it will be close. Both teams will play zone and MSG isn't friendly to long-distance shooting. I think buckets will be hard to come by in the interior, and both teams are poor from the line. Syracuse shoots 64.4% and St. John's is at 69.2% when you want your team to be above 70% to be considered competent/good. Hoping we don't get into the bonus early...
this is the final card correct?
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Quote Originally Posted by GWarner27:
huge card today...
add Seton Hall -3 (-105) @ DePaul -The Pirates are far better than DePaul and they have the guards in Jordan Theodore and Keon Lawrence to break Oliver Purnell's press. More importantly, I don't think DePaul has the shooters on the perimeter to beat the zone. They may not even have one shooter considering they make 27.6% of their 3pt shots good for 335th in the nation. The Hall aren't a great group of players, but their coach Kevin Willard knows what he's doing and this game is one that the Pirates know they can win and they will be motivated to take charge early. SHU's heart and soul Jeremy Hazell may be back, too, which is unbelievable news if true. Georgetown -2.5 (-103) vs. Pittsburgh -I've been looking to fade Pitt because I don't think they're good and this is as good of a time as any. I was hoping for a -1.5 here, but I think GTown has the shooters to ice the game down the stretch. The main reason for this play is I think GU matches up well on defense with whatever Pitt wants to do. The Panthers won't win if they run tonight and I think they'll lose if they play like they used to, too. Julian Vaughn should be able to keep Gary McGhee off the glass, Chris Wright will stop Woodall off the bench or Wannamaker if he draws that assignment. The only real offensive threats for Pitt are Wannamaker and Ashton Gibbs mainly because Gilbert Brown is only consequential when he gets left wide open because their opponents can't stop those two guys. I think we see Jason Clark and Austin Freeman slowing the go-two-guys (see what I did there?) and the Pitt bench doesn't feature any scorers. Besides the HCA, this game is a must-win for GTown and I think they get it done. Syracuse-St. John's UNDER 62 (-110, 1H) -Avoiding full-game unders for now to avoid overtime, especially in this one because I think it will be close. Both teams will play zone and MSG isn't friendly to long-distance shooting. I think buckets will be hard to come by in the interior, and both teams are poor from the line. Syracuse shoots 64.4% and St. John's is at 69.2% when you want your team to be above 70% to be considered competent/good. Hoping we don't get into the bonus early...
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