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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2018 - 4:00 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by barneybeans:

      No one, and I mean no one bet Mizzou nor Wake (OK one capper here had Wake).

     

    And that capper who had Wake had FSU

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    Quote Originally Posted by barneybeans:

      No one, and I mean no one bet Mizzou nor Wake (OK one capper here had Wake).

     

    And that capper who had Wake had FSU

     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2018 - 4:01 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by koua38:

    I have a 7 team parlay last night and my only loss was Long Beach St ML. Tell me how sports is not RIGGED...
    If  you had hit the parlay, would  that mean that sports aren’t rigged? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by koua38:

    I have a 7 team parlay last night and my only loss was Long Beach St ML. Tell me how sports is not RIGGED...
    If  you had hit the parlay, would  that mean that sports aren’t rigged? 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2018 - 4:02 PM ET #28

    It's just luck. And guys that to have a lot of luck are recruited. Just like anything else. 
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    It's just luck. And guys that to have a lot of luck are recruited. Just like anything else. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2018 - 4:09 PM ET #29

    My good Friend is also a book.....He will let me know when he is long on a game so I can bet the game with him...I mean 6 to 1 long. He used to layoff these games but now rarely lays a game off. He is also very rarely even on money for a game but, as he says there is always a right side to be on. that right side might not win every time but, a good percentage of the time is does. We have talked about how the lines makers know these totals and games sometimes to a half point.......it is just good information and percentages. It is a very...very rare occasion that a game is fixed. He said the fix could be eaiser on totals than the the game if you have a rogue referee or player but again a very rare thing that happens(but, I am sure it does). He has always said to me Vegas does not have to fix games because public is so predicable on betting the favorites and the overs. 

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    My good Friend is also a book.....He will let me know when he is long on a game so I can bet the game with him...I mean 6 to 1 long. He used to layoff these games but now rarely lays a game off. He is also very rarely even on money for a game but, as he says there is always a right side to be on. that right side might not win every time but, a good percentage of the time is does. We have talked about how the lines makers know these totals and games sometimes to a half point.......it is just good information and percentages. It is a very...very rare occasion that a game is fixed. He said the fix could be eaiser on totals than the the game if you have a rogue referee or player but again a very rare thing that happens(but, I am sure it does). He has always said to me Vegas does not have to fix games because public is so predicable on betting the favorites and the overs. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2018 - 4:13 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by Mancity:

    It's just luck. And guys that to have a lot of luck are recruited. Just like anything else.
    Diarhea mouth = me - I'll stop soon I swear but: 

    He is asking why the line didn't move when FSU and Bama were getting pounded.

     

    No more no less. 

     

    He is suspecting that the sports books knowingly took heavy lopsided action on FSU and Bama and did not move the line to attract Wake and Mizzou bets, thus taking a position on Wake and Mizzou with the "company money".

     

    He is wondering if the above is true (and I know that it is AT TIMES especially from the Roxy ESPN segment), how do the sportsbooks KNOW to do this?.

     

    No offense 'cause you're all great guys near and dear to my heart and some even addressed the question directly. Fragment on purpose.

     

    I'm not a robot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mancity:

    It's just luck. And guys that to have a lot of luck are recruited. Just like anything else.
    Diarhea mouth = me - I'll stop soon I swear but: 

    He is asking why the line didn't move when FSU and Bama were getting pounded.

     

    No more no less. 

     

    He is suspecting that the sports books knowingly took heavy lopsided action on FSU and Bama and did not move the line to attract Wake and Mizzou bets, thus taking a position on Wake and Mizzou with the "company money".

     

    He is wondering if the above is true (and I know that it is AT TIMES especially from the Roxy ESPN segment), how do the sportsbooks KNOW to do this?.

     

    No offense 'cause you're all great guys near and dear to my heart and some even addressed the question directly. Fragment on purpose.

     

    I'm not a robot.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2018 - 4:23 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by MLdogs:

    They know outcome of every game more less.

    Ok, so if Vegas knew FSU and Long Beach wouldn't cover the full game, did they also know both teams covered the first half spreads easily? We all have a choice on who/what we bet on. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by MLdogs:

    They know outcome of every game more less.

    Ok, so if Vegas knew FSU and Long Beach wouldn't cover the full game, did they also know both teams covered the first half spreads easily? We all have a choice on who/what we bet on. 
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2018 - 4:26 PM ET #32

    It's luck. Some guys have more of it than others especially in sports wagering department. And the really good ones get recruited.

    Just like models or any other professional. One gets lucky to be good at something. Why wasn't Einstein good at Cricket!!? He was ggood in a lab.... You understand?
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    It's luck. Some guys have more of it than others especially in sports wagering department. And the really good ones get recruited.

    Just like models or any other professional. One gets lucky to be good at something. Why wasn't Einstein good at Cricket!!? He was ggood in a lab.... You understand?
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