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    I want to be better...

    brotherdame
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    brotherdame
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2021 - 10:35 AM ET #1

    Been getting taken to the woodshed lately in college hoops. Anything that you guys look at/any tips you have to help become a better handicapper would be appreciated. 

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    Been getting taken to the woodshed lately in college hoops. Anything that you guys look at/any tips you have to help become a better handicapper would be appreciated. 

     
    LetsGetRight333
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2021 - 11:38 AM ET #2

    @brotherdame

     

    James Madison 11:00 ??

    Virginia tech 2:00

    Saint Louis 2:00 ??

    Seton hall 2:00 ??

    Vcu 2:00 ??

    W Carolina 2:00 ??

    Mercer 2:00

    Uncg 2:00

    Lamar 3:00

    Memphis 3:00

    Sfa 3:00 ??

    Villanova 4:00

    Smu 4:00
    let’s make some money!!!

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    @brotherdame

     

    James Madison 11:00 ??

    Virginia tech 2:00

    Saint Louis 2:00 ??

    Seton hall 2:00 ??

    Vcu 2:00 ??

    W Carolina 2:00 ??

    Mercer 2:00

    Uncg 2:00

    Lamar 3:00

    Memphis 3:00

    Sfa 3:00 ??

    Villanova 4:00

    Smu 4:00
    let’s make some money!!!

     
    ToddC
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2021 - 11:39 AM ET #3

    Today is ugly IMO...... eyeing tomorrow already 

    T2
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    Today is ugly IMO...... eyeing tomorrow already 

     
    STLTarHeels
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2021 - 11:59 AM ET #4

    If it looks too good to be true, it typically is

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    If it looks too good to be true, it typically is

     
    ram6281
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2021 - 12:19 PM ET #5

    @brotherdame

     I’ve been buying 2pts for a lot of games lately, payout is less, but tired of losing on the freaking hook.  Win is a win

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    @brotherdame

     I’ve been buying 2pts for a lot of games lately, payout is less, but tired of losing on the freaking hook.  Win is a win

     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2021 - 12:23 PM ET #6

    @ram6281

     It will happen from time to time. Bad beats are awful and losing a bet in the last play sucks. You can always tease but I just try and find the best games out there, and do a little research, etc. Buying points is not a thing I do, and if I do it’s a half, to get rid of the hook. BOL brotha and remember this shit ain’t easy like we all want it to be! Lol

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     It will happen from time to time. Bad beats are awful and losing a bet in the last play sucks. You can always tease but I just try and find the best games out there, and do a little research, etc. Buying points is not a thing I do, and if I do it’s a half, to get rid of the hook. BOL brotha and remember this shit ain’t easy like we all want it to be! Lol

     
    VicVega91
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2021 - 12:26 PM ET #7

    Compare stats using sites like Ken Pom and team Rankings. Use Twitter to get feeds on injuries. Maybe look at playing money line parlays in college hoops (2-4 teams) at the moment while doing the other research and tracking your ats plays and simply tracking them. As an example; yesterday a money line parlay of Kent St, Iowa, Ohio and Arkansas was (of course it depends on the site) roughly +140. 

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    Compare stats using sites like Ken Pom and team Rankings. Use Twitter to get feeds on injuries. Maybe look at playing money line parlays in college hoops (2-4 teams) at the moment while doing the other research and tracking your ats plays and simply tracking them. As an example; yesterday a money line parlay of Kent St, Iowa, Ohio and Arkansas was (of course it depends on the site) roughly +140. 

     
    RMcCarthy1
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2021 - 12:35 PM ET #8

    Highly recommend a subscription to KenPom. Great data, easy to analyze and find mismatches. The other tip, simply use the power of the internet/Twitter. Many beat writers out there for teams and conferences. Before placing a wager, be sure to read their analysis on a game so you get a better sense for how to adjust the KenPom data to come up with a selection.

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    Highly recommend a subscription to KenPom. Great data, easy to analyze and find mismatches. The other tip, simply use the power of the internet/Twitter. Many beat writers out there for teams and conferences. Before placing a wager, be sure to read their analysis on a game so you get a better sense for how to adjust the KenPom data to come up with a selection.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2021 - 12:43 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by STLTarHeels:

    If it looks too good to be true, it typically is
    backed the heels yesterday an_burningbag

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    Quote Originally Posted by STLTarHeels:

    If it looks too good to be true, it typically is
    backed the heels yesterday an_burningbag

     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2021 - 12:43 PM ET #10

    I appreciate the feedback guys. peace_5

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    I appreciate the feedback guys. peace_5

     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2021 - 12:52 PM ET #11

    @brotherdame

     Just treat handicapping like being a Jedi 

    DO OR DO NOT

    THERE IS NO TRY

    (hope this helps)

    Red 4, BLACK 13. Hungry DOG's EAT, Scared Money don't make money
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    @brotherdame

     Just treat handicapping like being a Jedi 

    DO OR DO NOT

    THERE IS NO TRY

    (hope this helps)

     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2021 - 1:32 PM ET #12

    Wait till the crowds return. This is the biggest shitshow I’ve ever seen. Nothing makes sense.

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    Wait till the crowds return. This is the biggest shitshow I’ve ever seen. Nothing makes sense.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2021 - 4:33 PM ET #13

    Keep a log, track your play.

    Most bettors look at all kind of team stats as part of their handicapping - how a team performs as a fav, a dog, over, under, home, on the road, etc. But very few can tell you their own stats - what is their record when they play favs? Dogs? Are they stronger on overs or unders? What is your record on favs? Are you in the upper 50% range but have a losing record when you bet double digit or higher favs? If so, cut down on big favs and improve your bottom line. How do you know your strengths and weaknesses if you don't track your play?

    You may find nothing, but you might find stats you can incorporate into your 'capping and increase your overall win percentage.

    Other than that - just remember the basic stuff:

    Don't bet too many games (see my post in the general discussion forum thread "A Third Alternative to Fade or Follow" on this if you want more detail.)

    Don't make the mistake many amateurs make and chase losses.

    Don't vary unit size (it's difficult enough to maintain the necessary W % to be profitable, varying unit sizes makes it even more so. Some can do it successfully, most can't.

    Like anything else - put the time into it, do the work, and you should get better at it.

    Good luck.

    I always wave back at the little Amazon guy. I feel like it's the courteous thing to do.
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    Keep a log, track your play.

    Most bettors look at all kind of team stats as part of their handicapping - how a team performs as a fav, a dog, over, under, home, on the road, etc. But very few can tell you their own stats - what is their record when they play favs? Dogs? Are they stronger on overs or unders? What is your record on favs? Are you in the upper 50% range but have a losing record when you bet double digit or higher favs? If so, cut down on big favs and improve your bottom line. How do you know your strengths and weaknesses if you don't track your play?

    You may find nothing, but you might find stats you can incorporate into your 'capping and increase your overall win percentage.

    Other than that - just remember the basic stuff:

    Don't bet too many games (see my post in the general discussion forum thread "A Third Alternative to Fade or Follow" on this if you want more detail.)

    Don't make the mistake many amateurs make and chase losses.

    Don't vary unit size (it's difficult enough to maintain the necessary W % to be profitable, varying unit sizes makes it even more so. Some can do it successfully, most can't.

    Like anything else - put the time into it, do the work, and you should get better at it.

    Good luck.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2021 - 5:44 PM ET #14

    @brotherdame

     Betting on those kids has been a disaster this year.  But Saturday looks like a good spot, as regardless how bad we are, Duke is much worse.

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    @brotherdame

     Betting on those kids has been a disaster this year.  But Saturday looks like a good spot, as regardless how bad we are, Duke is much worse.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2021 - 5:58 PM ET #15

    @brotherdame

     You backed the Heels yesterday even though they have been bad ATS on the road and Clemson was 6-1 at home in addition to being 3-0 ATS last 3 games vs Heels? Also if you did your research you would have found UNC to be a poor FT shooting team, they made 9-19, and sloppy with the ball, they committed 17 turnovers. And Clemson was getting points. Ask yourself, why did you take the Heels? I did a write-up on the game explaining those exact things would in all likelihood lead to a SU win for Clemson. Not trying to beat you up, just examine your choices. Good luck in the future.peace_5

    "I'm afraid all we may have done is awakened a sleeping giant."
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    @brotherdame

     You backed the Heels yesterday even though they have been bad ATS on the road and Clemson was 6-1 at home in addition to being 3-0 ATS last 3 games vs Heels? Also if you did your research you would have found UNC to be a poor FT shooting team, they made 9-19, and sloppy with the ball, they committed 17 turnovers. And Clemson was getting points. Ask yourself, why did you take the Heels? I did a write-up on the game explaining those exact things would in all likelihood lead to a SU win for Clemson. Not trying to beat you up, just examine your choices. Good luck in the future.peace_5

     
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2021 - 3:33 PM ET #16

    How'd you do yesterday? Make any plays? Today?

    "I'm afraid all we may have done is awakened a sleeping giant."
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    How'd you do yesterday? Make any plays? Today?

     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 4, 2021 - 4:05 PM ET #17

    @VeritasAlways

     Well saidpeace_5

    "I'm afraid all we may have done is awakened a sleeping giant."
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    @VeritasAlways

     Well saidpeace_5

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