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    New Mexico St vs Northern Colorado

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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2011 - 1:01 AM ET #1

    New Mexico St Aggies v Northern Colorado Bears

    I try to hang my hat on betting Colorado (and mostly Northern Colorado and the Big Sky) teams, and have done a pretty good job over he past few years. I was not able to post as much as I wanted to, due to working 16-18 hour days in BFE North Dakota. I moved to Denver, so I will be doing more Denver games.  I'm hoping to make a bigger contribution this year.

    Anyway, this Northern Colorado team has been a blast to watch the last 2 years, even making it to the big dance last year.  This year will be a big rebuilding year, and is  full of question marks.

    They lost 4 starters, with only Elliot Llyod returning. This team has never really had "Bigs" (the bigs played more on the outside), but that is especially true this year. They have a couple young guys with size-Emmanual Addo and Connor Osborne.  Addo was really inconsistant lat year, but showed flashes last year.  Osborne was hurt last year, and brings much needed size to the front court.

    Mike Proctor is their true "Big" but really struggled with defense last year, which got him a lot of minutes on the bench, compared to year's past. He really needs to step up his game for NC to do anything this year.  I really like Soph guard, Paul Garnica. He will probably take over for the BSky Player of Year, Bietzel and take over at PG, moving Lylod to his more natural position at the 2. Garnica is a much better defended that Bieztel, but lacks the offense, although he is good at getting to the rim, but may be a year away from being "the guy" (reminds me a lot of Will Figures, if he can develop his long range game) This team will struggle at first to find the right mix/chemistry.  They have a bunch on other young, unproven guards, and ju-co transfer could be a nice piece for this team.

    They will continue to be a team that lives and dies by the 3 point shot, however, this year I have read that Coach Hill is going to try to emphasize more of an attack style offense; we'll see.

    Like NC, NMSt loses their best players from last year as well, Troy Glenwater. Unlike NC, the Aggies pretty much bring back everyone else, including Wendell McKines who was hurt last year. McKines is a big dude who can mash inside. McKines has the ability to be one of the best players (if not the best) in the WAC this year.  Also, senior guard Hernst LaRoche returns and IMO should be able to step up as the leader, and although not be able to replace the scoring of Glenwater, he should continue to get the rest of his team involved, and score between 13-15 pts per game.  They have a decent backcourt, and with a year under their belt, they should be much improved, especially on defense.  I have read in several places that coach Menzies wants to go to a more aggressive man2man style offense, and mix in a bit of zone; again, we'll see.

    These 2 teams played last year in Las Cruces, with UNC winning the game in a nail biter.  These 2 teams are completely different match-up wise, compared from last year.  To me this game comes down to a team who has players that have played a lot with each other vs a team that will need time to mesh, as well as size (NMSt) and lack there of (NC). NC can usually shoot lights out at home, but I expect a lot of nerves and sloppy play from all the new guys. And with the size on the inside, I see NMSt being at to dominate the paint and get easy buckets and get to the line. Also, if NC is not hitting from outside, outside the Proctor, I don't see much rebounding from the Bears.

    I like NM ST 68 Northern Colorado 61

    We'll see what the line comes out at.

    Depending on the line, not sure I will be this.

    GL fellas, and if I missed something or have anything to add or have any questions, feel free to drop it one me. If I have time I will have thoughts on Portland St and Denver.


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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    New Mexico St Aggies v Northern Colorado Bears

    I try to hang my hat on betting Colorado (and mostly Northern Colorado and the Big Sky) teams, and have done a pretty good job over he past few years. I was not able to post as much as I wanted to, due to working 16-18 hour days in BFE North Dakota. I moved to Denver, so I will be doing more Denver games.  I'm hoping to make a bigger contribution this year.

    Anyway, this Northern Colorado team has been a blast to watch the last 2 years, even making it to the big dance last year.  This year will be a big rebuilding year, and is  full of question marks.

    They lost 4 starters, with only Elliot Llyod returning. This team has never really had "Bigs" (the bigs played more on the outside), but that is especially true this year. They have a couple young guys with size-Emmanual Addo and Connor Osborne.  Addo was really inconsistant lat year, but showed flashes last year.  Osborne was hurt last year, and brings much needed size to the front court.

    Mike Proctor is their true "Big" but really struggled with defense last year, which got him a lot of minutes on the bench, compared to year's past. He really needs to step up his game for NC to do anything this year.  I really like Soph guard, Paul Garnica. He will probably take over for the BSky Player of Year, Bietzel and take over at PG, moving Lylod to his more natural position at the 2. Garnica is a much better defended that Bieztel, but lacks the offense, although he is good at getting to the rim, but may be a year away from being "the guy" (reminds me a lot of Will Figures, if he can develop his long range game) This team will struggle at first to find the right mix/chemistry.  They have a bunch on other young, unproven guards, and ju-co transfer could be a nice piece for this team.

    They will continue to be a team that lives and dies by the 3 point shot, however, this year I have read that Coach Hill is going to try to emphasize more of an attack style offense; we'll see.

    Like NC, NMSt loses their best players from last year as well, Troy Glenwater. Unlike NC, the Aggies pretty much bring back everyone else, including Wendell McKines who was hurt last year. McKines is a big dude who can mash inside. McKines has the ability to be one of the best players (if not the best) in the WAC this year.  Also, senior guard Hernst LaRoche returns and IMO should be able to step up as the leader, and although not be able to replace the scoring of Glenwater, he should continue to get the rest of his team involved, and score between 13-15 pts per game.  They have a decent backcourt, and with a year under their belt, they should be much improved, especially on defense.  I have read in several places that coach Menzies wants to go to a more aggressive man2man style offense, and mix in a bit of zone; again, we'll see.

    These 2 teams played last year in Las Cruces, with UNC winning the game in a nail biter.  These 2 teams are completely different match-up wise, compared from last year.  To me this game comes down to a team who has players that have played a lot with each other vs a team that will need time to mesh, as well as size (NMSt) and lack there of (NC). NC can usually shoot lights out at home, but I expect a lot of nerves and sloppy play from all the new guys. And with the size on the inside, I see NMSt being at to dominate the paint and get easy buckets and get to the line. Also, if NC is not hitting from outside, outside the Proctor, I don't see much rebounding from the Bears.

    I like NM ST 68 Northern Colorado 61

    We'll see what the line comes out at.

    Depending on the line, not sure I will be this.

    GL fellas, and if I missed something or have anything to add or have any questions, feel free to drop it one me. If I have time I will have thoughts on Portland St and Denver.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2011 - 1:36 AM ET #2

    predicting a small favorite in NMST?
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    predicting a small favorite in NMST?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2011 - 1:45 AM ET #3

    I would think NMSt come out as a 2-3 pt favorite.
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    I would think NMSt come out as a 2-3 pt favorite.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2011 - 2:03 AM ET #4

    Hey Gonzo! Any thoughts on the CSU game this weekend? You going to the game?
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    Hey Gonzo! Any thoughts on the CSU game this weekend? You going to the game?
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2011 - 8:47 AM ET #5

    Actually 2-3 might be a bit low, maybe 4-5...we'll see.

    Hey B, yea, I will try to have something on the DU game and CSU game.  Good to see ya around; I don't fly back to Denver until mid Saturday afternoon, so not going to be around for the game in Fort Collins.
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    Actually 2-3 might be a bit low, maybe 4-5...we'll see.

    Hey B, yea, I will try to have something on the DU game and CSU game.  Good to see ya around; I don't fly back to Denver until mid Saturday afternoon, so not going to be around for the game in Fort Collins.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2011 - 11:14 AM ET #6

    Just for information purposes, here is my prediction of Big Sky this year:

    1) Weber St
    2) Montana
    3) Portland St
    4) Eastern Washington
    5) Northern Colorado
    6) Montana St
    7) Northern Arizona
    8) Idaho St
    9) Sac St
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    Just for information purposes, here is my prediction of Big Sky this year:

    1) Weber St
    2) Montana
    3) Portland St
    4) Eastern Washington
    5) Northern Colorado
    6) Montana St
    7) Northern Arizona
    8) Idaho St
    9) Sac St
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2011 - 4:59 PM ET #7

    I think your right on track with Weber St winning the Big Sky.

    They get back jr G Damian Lillard who got a medical redshirt last year is considered by many as the leagues best player,and with Kyle Bullinger and Scott Bamforth,both 1st team all-conf players by some rankings,they should have enough to hold off Montana to win the league. Good luck this year    

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    I think your right on track with Weber St winning the Big Sky.

    They get back jr G Damian Lillard who got a medical redshirt last year is considered by many as the leagues best player,and with Kyle Bullinger and Scott Bamforth,both 1st team all-conf players by some rankings,they should have enough to hold off Montana to win the league. Good luck this year    

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2011 - 9:52 PM ET #8

    Yea, Montana is gonna be a contender for sure, but Weber St has too much talent. Lillard is best player in the conference, and he is going to chompin at the bit to get after it this year. Bullinger pretty much did the heavy lifting last year when Lillard went down, and he should pick up where left off last year. Banforth has tremendous range and might be the best shooter in the Big Sky. The loss of Qvale for Montana is HUGE, since he was such a beast inside for them. Montana has some really impressive guards, and Cherry has the ability to shut down any guard.

    I have flip flopped on 3/4 (Portland St/East Washington), I do think Portland St should be a bit better. Love Tapscot for Portland St.


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    Yea, Montana is gonna be a contender for sure, but Weber St has too much talent. Lillard is best player in the conference, and he is going to chompin at the bit to get after it this year. Bullinger pretty much did the heavy lifting last year when Lillard went down, and he should pick up where left off last year. Banforth has tremendous range and might be the best shooter in the Big Sky. The loss of Qvale for Montana is HUGE, since he was such a beast inside for them. Montana has some really impressive guards, and Cherry has the ability to shut down any guard.

    I have flip flopped on 3/4 (Portland St/East Washington), I do think Portland St should be a bit better. Love Tapscot for Portland St.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2011 - 10:50 PM ET #9

      great stuff.
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      great stuff.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2011 - 9:14 AM ET #10

    Friday Card: (I will try to have more of an explanation later on these)

    OU -17 Not a huge fan of OU right now, but Idaho St is bad.

    Colo St -6.5 Really like this Montana team, but without Selvig,  they aren't the same team, and don't have the big mismatch. Interesting to so see how CSU plays without Franklin and Ogidae. we are gonna see ALOT of small line-ups in this game.

    Portland St +11.5 I really like this Portland St team, and while DU is really tough at Denver, I think this will be close, and Portland St may pull off the upset. I may be way off here, but I can't see a DD win by DU. We will get a slow grind it out game, and the Vikings are kinda my sleeper in the BSky this year.

    Utah St -2 Really like the home team here.

    Nevada -6.5 BandosWB couldn't have said it any better and has a good write-up on this game and I completely agree.

    (I will have a final play on this NMSt v NC game as soon as the line comes out) GL today

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    Friday Card: (I will try to have more of an explanation later on these)

    OU -17 Not a huge fan of OU right now, but Idaho St is bad.

    Colo St -6.5 Really like this Montana team, but without Selvig,  they aren't the same team, and don't have the big mismatch. Interesting to so see how CSU plays without Franklin and Ogidae. we are gonna see ALOT of small line-ups in this game.

    Portland St +11.5 I really like this Portland St team, and while DU is really tough at Denver, I think this will be close, and Portland St may pull off the upset. I may be way off here, but I can't see a DD win by DU. We will get a slow grind it out game, and the Vikings are kinda my sleeper in the BSky this year.

    Utah St -2 Really like the home team here.

    Nevada -6.5 BandosWB couldn't have said it any better and has a good write-up on this game and I completely agree.

    (I will have a final play on this NMSt v NC game as soon as the line comes out) GL today

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2011 - 9:19 AM ET #11

    btw...1st plays of the year Record (0-0) 99% of my plays are for 1 unit
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    btw...1st plays of the year Record (0-0) 99% of my plays are for 1 unit
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2011 - 2:23 PM ET #12

    Thanks swolesbee...GL to you as well
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    Thanks swolesbee...GL to you as well
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2011 - 2:25 PM ET #13

    Good insight, good luck gonzo
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    Good insight, good luck gonzo
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2011 - 3:47 PM ET #14

    Thanks PP, you as well bro!
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    Thanks PP, you as well bro!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2011 - 7:16 PM ET #15

    Just got the line for the game on Saturday...

    New Mexico St Aggies -2.5

    (See Above for Write-up on this game)
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    Just got the line for the game on Saturday...

    New Mexico St Aggies -2.5

    (See Above for Write-up on this game)
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2011 - 7:19 PM ET #16

    I have the game a 7 pt game, but I can see the Aggies winning by DD (10-12)
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    I have the game a 7 pt game, but I can see the Aggies winning by DD (10-12)
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2011 - 7:28 PM ET #17

    Hey buddy!

    I'm so glad to see you on Portland St., as it's my only play today.  I came in here about to ask you your opinion on that game before I lock in my bet only to see you're already on it.  I may be able to throw a write-up together in the next hour or so, time pending, but either way I'm on it now.

    Best of luck today on all your plays today and this season.
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    Hey buddy!

    I'm so glad to see you on Portland St., as it's my only play today.  I came in here about to ask you your opinion on that game before I lock in my bet only to see you're already on it.  I may be able to throw a write-up together in the next hour or so, time pending, but either way I'm on it now.

    Best of luck today on all your plays today and this season.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2011 - 11:42 PM ET #18

    2-2 with Nevada getting killed, so looking to start 2-3.

    Added VMI -9 (Following KP)

    Really like NMSt play tomorrow. May have 1-2 or plays...hope everyone is having a good night.
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    2-2 with Nevada getting killed, so looking to start 2-3.

    Added VMI -9 (Following KP)

    Really like NMSt play tomorrow. May have 1-2 or plays...hope everyone is having a good night.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2011 - 10:49 AM ET #19

    Stumbling out of the gate...only 2 for today.

    New Mexico St -2.5
    Northern Iowa +4.5


    Travel day, so won't be around until tomorrow. GL fellas!
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    Stumbling out of the gate...only 2 for today.

    New Mexico St -2.5
    Northern Iowa +4.5


    Travel day, so won't be around until tomorrow. GL fellas!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2011 - 11:01 AM ET #20

    YTD 2-4 -2.18
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    YTD 2-4 -2.18
     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2011 - 11:31 AM ET #21

    Added VMI/AF O158
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    Added VMI/AF O158
     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2011 - 11:17 PM ET #22

    nice work on new mex st!  and northern iowa too!
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    nice work on new mex st!  and northern iowa too!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2011 - 1:20 AM ET #23

    You know that UNC club buddy! Nice work!
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    You know that UNC club buddy! Nice work!
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2011 - 12:44 PM ET #24

    Making up some ground...the inexperience really showed down the stretch for the Bears. Nice W!

    YTD: 4-5 (-1.36 Units)
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    Making up some ground...the inexperience really showed down the stretch for the Bears. Nice W!

    YTD: 4-5 (-1.36 Units)
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