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    Outlaws "it's been a rough 2 days" Thursday card

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    outlawgolfer6
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2016 - 11:42 AM ET #1

    On my way to Vegas my friends starting the morning will only have a few plays a days.
    Florida state -27 (b1/5) * fav play
    Vandy total o/135.5
    St. John's total o/135
    Mass total o/135.5

    Let's make a furious comeback this weekend. I'll be posting plays with dollar amounts Friday and Saturday so it will be a it different and we should crush it! Best of luck!!

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    On my way to Vegas my friends starting the morning will only have a few plays a days.
    Florida state -27 (b1/5) * fav play
    Vandy total o/135.5
    St. John's total o/135
    Mass total o/135.5

    Let's make a furious comeback this weekend. I'll be posting plays with dollar amounts Friday and Saturday so it will be a it different and we should crush it! Best of luck!!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2016 - 11:56 AM ET #2

    BOL
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2016 - 11:58 AM ET #3

    On your favorite play you are buying points. That makes no sense. If your favorite play you're so confident in, why will they not cover the number by 15? Why do you buy points on your strongest play. It seems to me that that is your weakest play because you have to buy points in your favor
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    On your favorite play you are buying points. That makes no sense. If your favorite play you're so confident in, why will they not cover the number by 15? Why do you buy points on your strongest play. It seems to me that that is your weakest play because you have to buy points in your favor
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2016 - 12:04 PM ET #4

    Florida state should win by 40.  
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2016 - 12:10 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by Shua12collegeFB:

    On your favorite play you are buying points. That makes no sense. If your favorite play you're so confident in, why will they not cover the number by 15? Why do you buy points on your strongest play. It seems to me that that is your weakest play because you have to buy points in your favor

    Very true. dont waste money where it's not needed. No bets are guaranteed 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shua12collegeFB:

    On your favorite play you are buying points. That makes no sense. If your favorite play you're so confident in, why will they not cover the number by 15? Why do you buy points on your strongest play. It seems to me that that is your weakest play because you have to buy points in your favor

    Very true. dont waste money where it's not needed. No bets are guaranteed 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2016 - 12:30 PM ET #6

    I'm seeing UMass total at 145 that's a great number at 135
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    I'm seeing UMass total at 145 that's a great number at 135
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2016 - 12:32 PM ET #7

    You can fade all four and parlay them together for big profits! judging by your last few days and haste to get your plays posted in the forum, along with buying points on your favorite play, I'll spot play against each and round robbin them in 4,3,&2 teamers  I suggest we all thank this man for his post  
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    You can fade all four and parlay them together for big profits! judging by your last few days and haste to get your plays posted in the forum, along with buying points on your favorite play, I'll spot play against each and round robbin them in 4,3,&2 teamers  I suggest we all thank this man for his post  
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2016 - 12:39 PM ET #8

    Also, 135 never existed for Pac/Mass game
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2016 - 12:44 PM ET #9

    Miss typed it's 145.
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    Miss typed it's 145.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2016 - 12:57 PM ET #10

    Funny that everyone has something to say about everything I do. I'll continue cashing in BOL to everyone. 
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    Funny that everyone has something to say about everything I do. I'll continue cashing in BOL to everyone. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2016 - 1:03 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by outlawgolfer6:

    Funny that everyone has something to say about everything I do. I'll continue cashing in BOL to everyone. 

    Explain it then. Your most confident play of the day and you're buying points on it. And it's the only play you're buying points on. 

    If that's your most confident play why the need to buy the points
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    Quote Originally Posted by outlawgolfer6:

    Funny that everyone has something to say about everything I do. I'll continue cashing in BOL to everyone. 

    Explain it then. Your most confident play of the day and you're buying points on it. And it's the only play you're buying points on. 

    If that's your most confident play why the need to buy the points
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2016 - 1:14 PM ET #12

    If you win by a half or 30 a win is a win. I like he play but I hate halves in any of my plays so I'll lay the juice. I have done it and will continue to do it. Play your plays don't critic mine. If you are so confident why are you posting your damn plays?
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    If you win by a half or 30 a win is a win. I like he play but I hate halves in any of my plays so I'll lay the juice. I have done it and will continue to do it. Play your plays don't critic mine. If you are so confident why are you posting your damn plays?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2016 - 1:29 PM ET #13

    If you're smart you will buy half points more than you dont.
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    If you're smart you will buy half points more than you dont.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2016 - 1:32 PM ET #14

    The half a point is so dangerous it's why they have it. Why not buy it and bring a push into play? I don't understand not buying it. 
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    The half a point is so dangerous it's why they have it. Why not buy it and bring a push into play? I don't understand not buying it. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2016 - 1:42 PM ET #15

    I was not bashing you I just thought the line may have moved do to an injury or something. Its getting where you can barely make a comment without somebody taking it in a neg. Way sheesh
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    I was not bashing you I just thought the line may have moved do to an injury or something. Its getting where you can barely make a comment without somebody taking it in a neg. Way sheesh
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2016 - 1:49 PM ET #16

    Always buy the hook. Not worth losing a play over 1/2 point.
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    Always buy the hook. Not worth losing a play over 1/2 point.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2016 - 1:55 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by outlawgolfer6:

    The half a point is so dangerous it's why they have it. Why not buy it and bring a push into play? I don't understand not buying it. 

    I agree in certain situations on Key Numbers today I waited on Oakland in the NFL to go 3.5 from 3 and hit it hard once it did also I often buy off of 7.5 to 7 When laying, but in hoops I don't see it coming in to play as much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by outlawgolfer6:

    The half a point is so dangerous it's why they have it. Why not buy it and bring a push into play? I don't understand not buying it. 

    I agree in certain situations on Key Numbers today I waited on Oakland in the NFL to go 3.5 from 3 and hit it hard once it did also I often buy off of 7.5 to 7 When laying, but in hoops I don't see it coming in to play as much.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2016 - 2:08 PM ET #18

    I wasn't offended by you asking at all. I enjoy the back and forth to be honest it's the people who complain about things that refuse to post plays! 
    I just feel that buying the hook is necessary especially in basketball and on key numbers in football. 

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    I wasn't offended by you asking at all. I enjoy the back and forth to be honest it's the people who complain about things that refuse to post plays! 
    I just feel that buying the hook is necessary especially in basketball and on key numbers in football. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2016 - 2:17 PM ET #19

    Loop Got it.
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2016 - 2:17 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by outlawgolfer6:

    The half a point is so dangerous it's why they have it. Why not buy it and bring a push into play? I don't understand not buying it. 

    If you don't understand it then you don't know what you're doing. You have to win 52.3% of your bets just to break even if all your plays are at -110. At -120 that percentage jumps up to 56% just to break even. Millionaires, people who bet sports professionally for a living hit 57 -60% consistently long-term. you think they're buying the hook in a college basketball game to get from 27.5 down to 27? People buy the hook to get you a key number and in college hoops 27 is not that. 

    To compound this even further, this is your top play of the day, and you're worried about losing on a half a point
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    Quote Originally Posted by outlawgolfer6:

    The half a point is so dangerous it's why they have it. Why not buy it and bring a push into play? I don't understand not buying it. 

    If you don't understand it then you don't know what you're doing. You have to win 52.3% of your bets just to break even if all your plays are at -110. At -120 that percentage jumps up to 56% just to break even. Millionaires, people who bet sports professionally for a living hit 57 -60% consistently long-term. you think they're buying the hook in a college basketball game to get from 27.5 down to 27? People buy the hook to get you a key number and in college hoops 27 is not that. 

    To compound this even further, this is your top play of the day, and you're worried about losing on a half a point
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2016 - 2:49 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by Shua12collegeFB:

    Quote Originally Posted by outlawgolfer6:

    The half a point is so dangerous it's why they have it. Why not buy it and bring a push into play? I don't understand not buying it. 
    If you don't understand it then you don't know what you're doing. You have to win 52.3% of your bets just to break even if all your plays are at -110. At -120 that percentage jumps up to 56% just to break even. Millionaires, people who bet sports professionally for a living hit 57 -60% consistently long-term. you think they're buying the hook in a college basketball game to get from 27.5 down to 27? People buy the hook to get you a key number and in college hoops 27 is not that. To compound this even further, this is your top play of the day, and you're worried about losing on a half a point


    I normally buy the half point. I understand what everyone is saying but I hate losing by .5 point lol. There's a few of my losses that would have won if I bought the .5. Good luck. As long as you're pushing out winners I don't see the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shua12collegeFB:

    Quote Originally Posted by outlawgolfer6:

    The half a point is so dangerous it's why they have it. Why not buy it and bring a push into play? I don't understand not buying it. 
    If you don't understand it then you don't know what you're doing. You have to win 52.3% of your bets just to break even if all your plays are at -110. At -120 that percentage jumps up to 56% just to break even. Millionaires, people who bet sports professionally for a living hit 57 -60% consistently long-term. you think they're buying the hook in a college basketball game to get from 27.5 down to 27? People buy the hook to get you a key number and in college hoops 27 is not that. To compound this even further, this is your top play of the day, and you're worried about losing on a half a point


    I normally buy the half point. I understand what everyone is saying but I hate losing by .5 point lol. There's a few of my losses that would have won if I bought the .5. Good luck. As long as you're pushing out winners I don't see the problem.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2016 - 3:32 PM ET #22

    And this is exactly why I haven't rated a play up until today. You are so concerned with what I do why don't you hop in here post some winners and worry about your plays instead of being so worried about what I do. Don't think I don't understand where you're coming from but I just don't care. I'm going to bet the way I bet and continue to churn out winners. BOL to you. 
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    And this is exactly why I haven't rated a play up until today. You are so concerned with what I do why don't you hop in here post some winners and worry about your plays instead of being so worried about what I do. Don't think I don't understand where you're coming from but I just don't care. I'm going to bet the way I bet and continue to churn out winners. BOL to you. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shua12collegeFB:


    If you don't understand it then you don't know what you're doing. You have to win 52.3% of your bets just to break even if all your plays are at -110. At -120 that percentage jumps up to 56% just to break even. Millionaires, people who bet sports professionally for a living hit 57 -60% consistently long-term. you think they're buying the hook in a college basketball game to get from 27.5 down to 27? People buy the hook to get you a key number and in college hoops 27 is not that. 

    To compound this even further, this is your top play of the day, and you're worried about losing on a half a point

    Everything you said here is 100% correct, but there's absolutely no chance you're ever going to convince the original poster that buying a half point to move from one arbitrary number to another is a waste of money.

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    If you don't understand it then you don't know what you're doing. You have to win 52.3% of your bets just to break even if all your plays are at -110. At -120 that percentage jumps up to 56% just to break even. Millionaires, people who bet sports professionally for a living hit 57 -60% consistently long-term. you think they're buying the hook in a college basketball game to get from 27.5 down to 27? People buy the hook to get you a key number and in college hoops 27 is not that. 

    To compound this even further, this is your top play of the day, and you're worried about losing on a half a point

    Everything you said here is 100% correct, but there's absolutely no chance you're ever going to convince the original poster that buying a half point to move from one arbitrary number to another is a waste of money.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2016 - 4:24 PM ET #24

    I might be wrong but it's only a waste of money if you happen to lose?
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    Quote Originally Posted by outlawgolfer6:

    I might be wrong but it's only a waste of money if you happen to lose?

    Well, yes, but that's awfully short-sighted.

    Someone who plays a large volume of games (say, 100 bets per week) and bets the same amount on each game will need to hit 53/100 to turn a profit that week. That's at -110 juice. 

    Take that same 53/100 result and assume you buy a half-point on all 100 of your bets that week. Now, instead of turning a profit, you're in the hole. Why? Because you won 53 units on the 53 successful bets, but lost 56.4 units on your losing 47 bets. 

    In addition to the simple math set forth above, is there a particular significance to buying down a number from 27.5 to 27? If it's as basic as "I don't want to lose by a half point," when why aren't you applying the same approach to your Vandy/MTSU over/under play? Couldn't you lose by a half-point there, too? 


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    Quote Originally Posted by outlawgolfer6:

    I might be wrong but it's only a waste of money if you happen to lose?

    Well, yes, but that's awfully short-sighted.

    Someone who plays a large volume of games (say, 100 bets per week) and bets the same amount on each game will need to hit 53/100 to turn a profit that week. That's at -110 juice. 

    Take that same 53/100 result and assume you buy a half-point on all 100 of your bets that week. Now, instead of turning a profit, you're in the hole. Why? Because you won 53 units on the 53 successful bets, but lost 56.4 units on your losing 47 bets. 

    In addition to the simple math set forth above, is there a particular significance to buying down a number from 27.5 to 27? If it's as basic as "I don't want to lose by a half point," when why aren't you applying the same approach to your Vandy/MTSU over/under play? Couldn't you lose by a half-point there, too? 


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