Coming off a disappointing loss on the CMU / Iowa over on Monday night.
But just as the previous plays this season, a nice early season
opportunity opens up tonight as both teams involved are going through a
philosophical transition due to roster turnover that the markets haven’t
accounted for.
Play:
St. Bonaventure / Cornell Over 132
Under Steve Donahue, Cornell was a roster filled with shooters. In his
last 4 years there, the Big Red ranked no lower than 25th in 3PT %
and in 2010 (his final year) actually were #1 in the country. Bill Courtney was
fully aware of that when he took over the program and the style of players that
he inherited. But now entering his 3rd season, he feels as though
the transformation from a jump shooting team into a more athletic, defensive
minded team is complete. Quotes in preseason publications support this
transition:
"We've
got to get a lot more in transition. We have to create some offense off our
defense. We won't shoot as many threes. We'll look to post up different guys.
We'll look to attack the basket and get fouled. We'll certainly change the way
we do things offensively because the last few years we've been doing everything
to get a 3-point shot."
Increased
pace and foul shot situations are always good for overs.
And
this philosophy was realized in their first game this season. Despite 63 – 55 final,
the game was played at 71 possessions versus an average paced Western Michigan
squad.
On
the flip side, we have a St Bonaventure team dealing with the loss of their
star Andrew Nicholson who anchored a defense that held opponents to 65.0 ppg
and 41.7% shooting from the field. Offensively last year, the Bonnies would be
very deliberate with their offensive sets and work the ball inside to
Nicholson. This should no longer be the case as they return a deep back court –
and overall they return eight players who averaged more than 10 minutes per
game last season, and 3 starters.
I
also believe we catch a lower total tonight due to the one game sample for the
Bonnies with only a 65-55 final in their opener vs Bethune Cookman on their
record this season. This result should be taken with a grain of salt as BC
ranked #290 in adjusted tempo last year and a much faster pace should be
expected tonight. SB played 12 games vs opponents ranked in the top 100 in
adjusted tempo last year and those games averaged 66.5 possessions. Cornell
fits this profile as they were the Ivy’s fastest paced team, averaging 68.4
possessions per game (#66).
I
fully expect to see a game played with at least 65 possessions tonight (KenPom
predicts 66). Last year’s game played at the Reilly Center supports this
thought as well; a 79-58 final that saw 66 possessions.
Good
luck if you decide to make a play
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YTD: 2-1
2011-'12: 34-23
2010-'11: 2-3-1
2009-'10: 14-7
Coming off a disappointing loss on the CMU / Iowa over on Monday night.
But just as the previous plays this season, a nice early season
opportunity opens up tonight as both teams involved are going through a
philosophical transition due to roster turnover that the markets haven’t
accounted for.
Play:
St. Bonaventure / Cornell Over 132
Under Steve Donahue, Cornell was a roster filled with shooters. In his
last 4 years there, the Big Red ranked no lower than 25th in 3PT %
and in 2010 (his final year) actually were #1 in the country. Bill Courtney was
fully aware of that when he took over the program and the style of players that
he inherited. But now entering his 3rd season, he feels as though
the transformation from a jump shooting team into a more athletic, defensive
minded team is complete. Quotes in preseason publications support this
transition:
"We've
got to get a lot more in transition. We have to create some offense off our
defense. We won't shoot as many threes. We'll look to post up different guys.
We'll look to attack the basket and get fouled. We'll certainly change the way
we do things offensively because the last few years we've been doing everything
to get a 3-point shot."
Increased
pace and foul shot situations are always good for overs.
And
this philosophy was realized in their first game this season. Despite 63 – 55 final,
the game was played at 71 possessions versus an average paced Western Michigan
squad.
On
the flip side, we have a St Bonaventure team dealing with the loss of their
star Andrew Nicholson who anchored a defense that held opponents to 65.0 ppg
and 41.7% shooting from the field. Offensively last year, the Bonnies would be
very deliberate with their offensive sets and work the ball inside to
Nicholson. This should no longer be the case as they return a deep back court –
and overall they return eight players who averaged more than 10 minutes per
game last season, and 3 starters.
I
also believe we catch a lower total tonight due to the one game sample for the
Bonnies with only a 65-55 final in their opener vs Bethune Cookman on their
record this season. This result should be taken with a grain of salt as BC
ranked #290 in adjusted tempo last year and a much faster pace should be
expected tonight. SB played 12 games vs opponents ranked in the top 100 in
adjusted tempo last year and those games averaged 66.5 possessions. Cornell
fits this profile as they were the Ivy’s fastest paced team, averaging 68.4
possessions per game (#66).
I
fully expect to see a game played with at least 65 possessions tonight (KenPom
predicts 66). Last year’s game played at the Reilly Center supports this
thought as well; a 79-58 final that saw 66 possessions.
only thing concerns me is, cornell still shot 25 3s in there first game...this game seems like a hit or miss...if the 3s are falling it will go over easily, but if not then who knows! could end up a 65-60 score
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only thing concerns me is, cornell still shot 25 3s in there first game...this game seems like a hit or miss...if the 3s are falling it will go over easily, but if not then who knows! could end up a 65-60 score
Just am curios where the points from bonnaventure will come from? Nicholson was a smart player who found the open men when they double teamed him. this being said makes it even more difficult for the bonnies to create points. I would suggest just to wait how the team addepts to the game without nicholson. there are just way to much questionmarks in this one. also to mension is the guard freshman nosser who led cornell in 3 pt shooting 6-8 in the first game. can he keep up that percentage. the whole other team just got 2 threepointers and finished with 63 points.
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Just am curios where the points from bonnaventure will come from? Nicholson was a smart player who found the open men when they double teamed him. this being said makes it even more difficult for the bonnies to create points. I would suggest just to wait how the team addepts to the game without nicholson. there are just way to much questionmarks in this one. also to mension is the guard freshman nosser who led cornell in 3 pt shooting 6-8 in the first game. can he keep up that percentage. the whole other team just got 2 threepointers and finished with 63 points.
I was actually looking at the total of this game and wasn't sure how to play it since Cornell is focused more on defense this year. As always love the write ups.
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I was actually looking at the total of this game and wasn't sure how to play it since Cornell is focused more on defense this year. As always love the write ups.
Just am curios where the points from bonnaventure will come from? Nicholson was a smart player who found the open men when they double teamed him. this being said makes it even more difficult for the bonnies to create points. I would suggest just to wait how the team addepts to the game without nicholson. there are just way to much questionmarks in this one.
Very valid points that the offense ran through Nicholson last year. But it's not like they were utilizing the double teams to knock down open 3's--in fact only 23.2% of their points came from behind the arc last year (#278 in country).
As stated in the original post, both teams had sneaky "low" final scores in their first games. But the Bonnies actually averaged 1.083 pts per poss vs BC -- match that production tonight with the expected pace and we would expect 71+ points from them.
But I appreciate your input -- as you state, there are always question marks with early season games....but there are also opportunities. And I think tonight is a good one.
GL
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Quote Originally Posted by Rolandoman:
Just am curios where the points from bonnaventure will come from? Nicholson was a smart player who found the open men when they double teamed him. this being said makes it even more difficult for the bonnies to create points. I would suggest just to wait how the team addepts to the game without nicholson. there are just way to much questionmarks in this one.
Very valid points that the offense ran through Nicholson last year. But it's not like they were utilizing the double teams to knock down open 3's--in fact only 23.2% of their points came from behind the arc last year (#278 in country).
As stated in the original post, both teams had sneaky "low" final scores in their first games. But the Bonnies actually averaged 1.083 pts per poss vs BC -- match that production tonight with the expected pace and we would expect 71+ points from them.
But I appreciate your input -- as you state, there are always question marks with early season games....but there are also opportunities. And I think tonight is a good one.
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