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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2013 - 3:00 PM ET #26

    mj45...your a miserable person bro...I see all you do is write negative s hit and bash people...i feel bad for your boyfriend
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    mj45...your a miserable person bro...I see all you do is write negative s hit and bash people...i feel bad for your boyfriend
     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2013 - 3:02 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by GUTPLAYS:

    yseallee...obviously craft was waiting till last second to shoot so either for ISU it was OT or lose the game...why not change your odds of winning and have the ball in your court to either win the game or at least tie it...I think there playing to win the game and having possession at the end gives them that best shot...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GUTPLAYS:

    yseallee...obviously craft was waiting till last second to shoot so either for ISU it was OT or lose the game...why not change your odds of winning and have the ball in your court to either win the game or at least tie it...I think there playing to win the game and having possession at the end gives them that best shot...

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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2013 - 3:03 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by mj4523:

    thanks topHog....just playing...in a tie game you let your defense try in make the stop and if they don't they better hope there's enough time on clock to get a shot off

    It's all good bro. I don't take message board jokes to heart, lol.


    But I do agree with the OP. Like I said, I've seen this strategy work many times. 

    The head coach is math guy and I remember him explaining to all us football coaches that the chance of winning the game goes up by like 40% when you have opportunity to take the last shot and be able to win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mj4523:

    thanks topHog....just playing...in a tie game you let your defense try in make the stop and if they don't they better hope there's enough time on clock to get a shot off

    It's all good bro. I don't take message board jokes to heart, lol.


    But I do agree with the OP. Like I said, I've seen this strategy work many times. 

    The head coach is math guy and I remember him explaining to all us football coaches that the chance of winning the game goes up by like 40% when you have opportunity to take the last shot and be able to win.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2013 - 3:03 PM ET #29

    frank the tank...sh ut up man...obviously if you calculate the odds its makes  more sense and  gives you better odds at winning the game..but  it obviously seems your not that bright..
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    frank the tank...sh ut up man...obviously if you calculate the odds its makes  more sense and  gives you better odds at winning the game..but  it obviously seems your not that bright..
     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2013 - 3:05 PM ET #30

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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2013 - 3:07 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by GUTPLAYS:

    2 team parlay HOw do you " basically give them the game?!? your a moron you would then have the chance with time left to score...you dont htink they can hit a 3 with 7 seconds left...

    cuz if they even hit one free throw u r forced to score, its easier to defend a last second shot then make one.

    and of course u can hit a last second shot, but odds are against u.. u have a better chance of d-ing them up and trying to force them into a bad shot..

    idk y u feel the need to call me a moron u fu.cking dipsh!t
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    Quote Originally Posted by GUTPLAYS:

    2 team parlay HOw do you " basically give them the game?!? your a moron you would then have the chance with time left to score...you dont htink they can hit a 3 with 7 seconds left...

    cuz if they even hit one free throw u r forced to score, its easier to defend a last second shot then make one.

    and of course u can hit a last second shot, but odds are against u.. u have a better chance of d-ing them up and trying to force them into a bad shot..

    idk y u feel the need to call me a moron u fu.cking dipsh!t
     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2013 - 3:10 PM ET #32

    gutplays, 

    hindsight is always 20/20 yeah it seems like the right thin to do cuz craft made the shot but i guarantee u ask any coach in that situation and they will not foul
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    gutplays, 

    hindsight is always 20/20 yeah it seems like the right thin to do cuz craft made the shot but i guarantee u ask any coach in that situation and they will not foul
     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2013 - 3:12 PM ET #33

    There are situations where I would foul in that spot:

    1. If the ball goes into the hands of a terrible foul shooter...somebody 60% or below

    2. If I am matched up with a far superior team

    3. If I have major players fouled out and don't have the depth for OT.

    None of these occurred so I would have played for OT as well

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    There are situations where I would foul in that spot:

    1. If the ball goes into the hands of a terrible foul shooter...somebody 60% or below

    2. If I am matched up with a far superior team

    3. If I have major players fouled out and don't have the depth for OT.

    None of these occurred so I would have played for OT as well

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2013 - 3:14 PM ET #34

    Not miserable at all bro...just bashing ur ignorance about the game of basketball...someone who never played the game starts a stupid ass thread I just wanted to let you bout it...in a tie game both teams did what they were supposed to...ohio state was to play for last shot and iowa st was to hope for a stop and maybe a last chance shot or hopefully over time
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    Not miserable at all bro...just bashing ur ignorance about the game of basketball...someone who never played the game starts a stupid ass thread I just wanted to let you bout it...in a tie game both teams did what they were supposed to...ohio state was to play for last shot and iowa st was to hope for a stop and maybe a last chance shot or hopefully over time
     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2013 - 3:17 PM ET #35

    Comparing high school bball to top ncaa teams lol
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    Comparing high school bball to top ncaa teams lol
     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2013 - 3:30 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by FishnGritz:

    Comparing high school bball to top ncaa teams lol
    Haha that was my first thought after reading this thread just doesn't make any sense to compare the two.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FishnGritz:

    Comparing high school bball to top ncaa teams lol
    Haha that was my first thought after reading this thread just doesn't make any sense to compare the two.


     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2013 - 3:33 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by FishnGritz:

    Comparing high school bball to top ncaa teams lol

    Who's comparing teams? I'm guessing reading comprehension isn't a strong suit for you.

    I'm only talking about a strategy. Learn to read and understand kid. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by FishnGritz:

    Comparing high school bball to top ncaa teams lol

    Who's comparing teams? I'm guessing reading comprehension isn't a strong suit for you.

    I'm only talking about a strategy. Learn to read and understand kid. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2013 - 3:47 PM ET #38

    Strategy is what it is...don't matter if its highschool..college or nba...just because gutplays prob had money on iowa st 2 win he wld foul n hopes to get ball back for last shot to win the game...I had money on iowa st getten 7.5 and who gives a crap cause I'm sure I lose more then I win...to watch the game as a spectator the right thing was done in that situation
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    Strategy is what it is...don't matter if its highschool..college or nba...just because gutplays prob had money on iowa st 2 win he wld foul n hopes to get ball back for last shot to win the game...I had money on iowa st getten 7.5 and who gives a crap cause I'm sure I lose more then I win...to watch the game as a spectator the right thing was done in that situation
     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2013 - 3:58 PM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by freebet123:


    First time I hear this!!!

    It was a tied game.

    Didn't Jimmy V do this on that magical run '83 run?
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    Quote Originally Posted by freebet123:


    First time I hear this!!!

    It was a tied game.

    Didn't Jimmy V do this on that magical run '83 run?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2013 - 4:00 PM ET #40

    A chance to atleast tie in an already tied game
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    A chance to atleast tie in an already tied game
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayLumen:


    Didn't Jimmy V do this on that magical run '83 run?


    He did indeed.  Survive and advance.

    Against North Carolina, the team was trailing with about one-and-a-half minutes remaining in the game. The coach told his players to start fouling, a move that was relatively original at the time.

    Later in the year, Valvano even instructed his team to foul in a tie game because he thought it would give his team a chance to get the last shot and win the game. As it turned out, he was right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayLumen:


    Didn't Jimmy V do this on that magical run '83 run?


    He did indeed.  Survive and advance.

    Against North Carolina, the team was trailing with about one-and-a-half minutes remaining in the game. The coach told his players to start fouling, a move that was relatively original at the time.

    Later in the year, Valvano even instructed his team to foul in a tie game because he thought it would give his team a chance to get the last shot and win the game. As it turned out, he was right.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2013 - 4:09 PM ET #42

    Still debating about this?

    If the team is so good at making shots, they have full 39 minutes and 50 seconds to win the game, don't have to wait till last second and foul (while the game is tied) and make the last shot.
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    Still debating about this?

    If the team is so good at making shots, they have full 39 minutes and 50 seconds to win the game, don't have to wait till last second and foul (while the game is tied) and make the last shot.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2013 - 4:09 PM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by TopHog:

    I actually agree. The high school coach where I coach at never allows the other team to have the last shot. They foul make them shoot free throws and always get last shot. You'd be surprised at how many times they've won with this strategy. 


    Thats why he is only, and will remain a high school coach. And you clearly don't have a clue what your talking about.

    Saying this dumbass strategy will work on high caliber college players because it worked against some skinny frekkled HS dweeb is the most STUPIDEST SH IT I have ever heard.

    NCAA is not your local HS bullshi t. Watch more and keep your outside the box dumb fuk ideas to yourself idiot.




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    Quote Originally Posted by TopHog:

    I actually agree. The high school coach where I coach at never allows the other team to have the last shot. They foul make them shoot free throws and always get last shot. You'd be surprised at how many times they've won with this strategy. 


    Thats why he is only, and will remain a high school coach. And you clearly don't have a clue what your talking about.

    Saying this dumbass strategy will work on high caliber college players because it worked against some skinny frekkled HS dweeb is the most STUPIDEST SH IT I have ever heard.

    NCAA is not your local HS bullshi t. Watch more and keep your outside the box dumb fuk ideas to yourself idiot.




     
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    Quote Originally Posted by TopHog:

    I actually agree. The high school coach where I coach at never allows the other team to have the last shot. They foul make them shoot free throws and always get last shot. You'd be surprised at how many times they've won with this strategy. 


    Thats why he is only, and will remain a high school coach. And you clearly don't have a clue what your talking about.

    Saying this dumbass strategy will work on high caliber college players because it worked against some skinny frekkled HS dweeb is the most STUPIDEST SH IT I have ever heard.

    NCAA is not your local HS bullshi t. Watch more and keep your outside the box dumb fuk ideas to yourself. Comprehend that moron.




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    Quote Originally Posted by TopHog:

    I actually agree. The high school coach where I coach at never allows the other team to have the last shot. They foul make them shoot free throws and always get last shot. You'd be surprised at how many times they've won with this strategy. 


    Thats why he is only, and will remain a high school coach. And you clearly don't have a clue what your talking about.

    Saying this dumbass strategy will work on high caliber college players because it worked against some skinny frekkled HS dweeb is the most STUPIDEST SH IT I have ever heard.

    NCAA is not your local HS bullshi t. Watch more and keep your outside the box dumb fuk ideas to yourself. Comprehend that moron.




     
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2013 - 4:19 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by FishnGritz:



    Thats why he is only, and will remain a high school coach. And you clearly don't have a clue what your talking about.

    Saying this dumbass strategy will work on high caliber college players because it worked against some skinny frekkled HS dweeb is the most STUPIDEST SH IT I have ever heard.

    NCAA is not your local HS bullshi t. Watch more and keep your outside the box dumb fuk ideas to yourself idiot.





    You have personal issues don't you?? Do the world a favor and find a tall building and jump off
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    Quote Originally Posted by FishnGritz:



    Thats why he is only, and will remain a high school coach. And you clearly don't have a clue what your talking about.

    Saying this dumbass strategy will work on high caliber college players because it worked against some skinny frekkled HS dweeb is the most STUPIDEST SH IT I have ever heard.

    NCAA is not your local HS bullshi t. Watch more and keep your outside the box dumb fuk ideas to yourself idiot.





    You have personal issues don't you?? Do the world a favor and find a tall building and jump off
     
    FishnGritz
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2013 - 4:29 PM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by TopHog:


    You have personal issues don't you?? Do the world a favor and find a tall building and jump off


    LOL you got exposed as a clueless moron . Do the world a favor and STFU about things you know nothing about kid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TopHog:


    You have personal issues don't you?? Do the world a favor and find a tall building and jump off


    LOL you got exposed as a clueless moron . Do the world a favor and STFU about things you know nothing about kid.
     
     
    PJay24
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    Posted: Mar. 24, 2013 - 4:35 PM ET #47

    Quote Originally Posted by GUTPLAYS:

    Burseker...Actuallly you wouldnt want to be my bookie...I had OSU ML in a big parlay and doubled down on ISU 2h +4 so double whammy winner..I took a risk and paid off..

    Then why make this thread if you hit both plays? Come onnnn mannn
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    Quote Originally Posted by GUTPLAYS:

    Burseker...Actuallly you wouldnt want to be my bookie...I had OSU ML in a big parlay and doubled down on ISU 2h +4 so double whammy winner..I took a risk and paid off..

    Then why make this thread if you hit both plays? Come onnnn mannn
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