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    Tom Izzo and Kalin Lucas both say the Spartans will run today...

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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2009 - 10:35 AM ET #1

    https://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2009/03/spartans_must_run_with_louisvi.html

    To think that anyone outside the NBA would dare attempt to run with uptempo Louisville would be considered ludicrous at best.

    Then again, why not?

    "We do want to run. That's what we do, too, so we plan on pushing it to get some easy opportunities," MSU coach Tom Izzo said on the eve of his national-best sixth Elite Eight appearance in the past 11 seasons, and Michigan State's 10th showing in a regional final, where the Spartans are 6-3.

    A popular belief is that the Spartans should revert back to the ho-hum, trudge along style so familiar in the Big Ten. A philosophy, some think, that just might lull the Cardinals into more of a sleepwalk rather than their go-for-broke philosophy.

    But why?

    By slowing it down, the Spartans are prone to turnovers. By taking their time, Michigan State plays right into Louisville's hands while dribbling longer, and allowing the Cardinals to jump more quickly into their well-known fullcourt press defense to create even more havoc.

    Louisville also is notorious for jumping in and out of multiple defensive sets. But, for the most part, the Cardinals love to attack an offense with zone looks.

    If you look back at the Spartans' regular season, zone defenses, for the most part, and the 1-3-1 zone that Louisville will unveil from time to time, in particular, gave MSU shooters fits. So why go slow, and give the Cardinals a better chance to get into their zone sets?

    Going full stride gives the nation's best rebounding team a better chance to clean the backboards and get upcourt to slice through the enemy's press while also negating the Cards' athleticism and length.

    If the Spartans were to decide to plod along, their chances of having their pockets picked by Louisville's press increase. That also allows the Cardinals to get back on defense off the press, and more effectively go to work with their aggressiveness in the zone.

    "We're going to push the ball. Fastbreak. "We're going to play our basketball," said MSU point guard Kalin Lucas, who leads the team with 13.7 points and 5.7 rebounds per game in tournament action.

    They keys to a State victory and a fifth Final Four berth in 11 years while pushing the basketball are twofold. First, do not get into turnover trouble, which the Spartans did in the first half of Friday's 67-62 win over Kansas in the Sweet 16, with all 10 of those first-half miscues coming in their halfcourt, and not transition, offense.

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    https://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2009/03/spartans_must_run_with_louisvi.html

    To think that anyone outside the NBA would dare attempt to run with uptempo Louisville would be considered ludicrous at best.

    Then again, why not?

    "We do want to run. That's what we do, too, so we plan on pushing it to get some easy opportunities," MSU coach Tom Izzo said on the eve of his national-best sixth Elite Eight appearance in the past 11 seasons, and Michigan State's 10th showing in a regional final, where the Spartans are 6-3.

    A popular belief is that the Spartans should revert back to the ho-hum, trudge along style so familiar in the Big Ten. A philosophy, some think, that just might lull the Cardinals into more of a sleepwalk rather than their go-for-broke philosophy.

    But why?

    By slowing it down, the Spartans are prone to turnovers. By taking their time, Michigan State plays right into Louisville's hands while dribbling longer, and allowing the Cardinals to jump more quickly into their well-known fullcourt press defense to create even more havoc.

    Louisville also is notorious for jumping in and out of multiple defensive sets. But, for the most part, the Cardinals love to attack an offense with zone looks.

    If you look back at the Spartans' regular season, zone defenses, for the most part, and the 1-3-1 zone that Louisville will unveil from time to time, in particular, gave MSU shooters fits. So why go slow, and give the Cardinals a better chance to get into their zone sets?

    Going full stride gives the nation's best rebounding team a better chance to clean the backboards and get upcourt to slice through the enemy's press while also negating the Cards' athleticism and length.

    If the Spartans were to decide to plod along, their chances of having their pockets picked by Louisville's press increase. That also allows the Cardinals to get back on defense off the press, and more effectively go to work with their aggressiveness in the zone.

    "We're going to push the ball. Fastbreak. "We're going to play our basketball," said MSU point guard Kalin Lucas, who leads the team with 13.7 points and 5.7 rebounds per game in tournament action.

    They keys to a State victory and a fifth Final Four berth in 11 years while pushing the basketball are twofold. First, do not get into turnover trouble, which the Spartans did in the first half of Friday's 67-62 win over Kansas in the Sweet 16, with all 10 of those first-half miscues coming in their halfcourt, and not transition, offense.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2009 - 10:43 AM ET #2

    Great info buddy.
     
    Be interested to se if they run or slow it down.
    with this info were u pointing out a over bet?  Last time he stated this was vs usc  and that he wnated tor un with trojans and he did and we won and it was in the 70's and soared over the 129 posted total.
     
    6 finals 4's in 11 years is dman good if sparty wins but msu neevr gets the credit.  All I hear is they suck cuz big ten sucks and dotn score. getting to final 4 or elite 8 is good nuff regardless if us core 60 or 100 liek unc.  Izzo is a all of famer
     
    go state! :)
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    Great info buddy.
     
    Be interested to se if they run or slow it down.
    with this info were u pointing out a over bet?  Last time he stated this was vs usc  and that he wnated tor un with trojans and he did and we won and it was in the 70's and soared over the 129 posted total.
     
    6 finals 4's in 11 years is dman good if sparty wins but msu neevr gets the credit.  All I hear is they suck cuz big ten sucks and dotn score. getting to final 4 or elite 8 is good nuff regardless if us core 60 or 100 liek unc.  Izzo is a all of famer
     
    go state! :)
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2009 - 10:45 AM ET #3

    Reading your writing makes me want to shoot myself in the face, msu09. No offense. 
     
    I went massive on the over and it sounds like this is gonna be key to the game.  I also took Lou cause they will break out.
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    Reading your writing makes me want to shoot myself in the face, msu09. No offense. 
     
    I went massive on the over and it sounds like this is gonna be key to the game.  I also took Lou cause they will break out.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2009 - 10:59 AM ET #4

    Smoke and mirrors.  Game will be in the mid-high 20's
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    Smoke and mirrors.  Game will be in the mid-high 20's
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2009 - 11:00 AM ET #5

    Yeah, I just locked in on the 1st Half OVER 64.5 for 3 Units...still debating on the full game OVER.
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    Yeah, I just locked in on the 1st Half OVER 64.5 for 3 Units...still debating on the full game OVER.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2009 - 11:12 AM ET #6

    Teabagger (MSU09) is that you????   Persistent is the understatement of the year
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    Teabagger (MSU09) is that you????   Persistent is the understatement of the year
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2009 - 11:12 AM ET #7

    Makes sense, MSU needs all the easy buckets it can muster today, Cards too big for MSU in a half court game. Good stuff man.
     
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    Makes sense, MSU needs all the easy buckets it can muster today, Cards too big for MSU in a half court game. Good stuff man.
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2009 - 11:17 AM ET #8

    good info
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    good info
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2009 - 11:40 AM ET #9

    yes very good piont backed up by the usc gm they had another early in tournment I thought was an under went over
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    yes very good piont backed up by the usc gm they had another early in tournment I thought was an under went over
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2009 - 11:50 AM ET #10

    L8ks.....we still have that Teaser riding with UCONN/Louisville!!! GL Today
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    L8ks.....we still have that Teaser riding with UCONN/Louisville!!! GL Today
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2009 - 1:08 PM ET #11

    Nice find,that is an interesting read.  
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    Nice find,that is an interesting read.  
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2009 - 1:15 PM ET #12

    on the over. Hope they run, run, run.
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    on the over. Hope they run, run, run.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2009 - 1:16 PM ET #13

    Thanks for the info - makes sense
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    Thanks for the info - makes sense
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2009 - 1:16 PM ET #14

    Noticed the line moved from 138 to 137.5 and the percentage of bets on the over has dropped from 90 to 82%. Seems more is coming in on the under while the line move favors the over. mmmm?
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    Noticed the line moved from 138 to 137.5 and the percentage of bets on the over has dropped from 90 to 82%. Seems more is coming in on the under while the line move favors the over. mmmm?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2009 - 1:17 PM ET #15

    What are todays plays buddy?
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    What are todays plays buddy?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2009 - 1:18 PM ET #16

     8 im leaning state + the pts what you think
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     8 im leaning state + the pts what you think
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2009 - 1:42 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by ricref64:

    L8ks.....we still have that Teaser riding with UCONN/Louisville!!! GL Today

    Yep, we got Da Ville working -1.5...     

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricref64:

    L8ks.....we still have that Teaser riding with UCONN/Louisville!!! GL Today

    Yep, we got Da Ville working -1.5...     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2009 - 1:47 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by DaRaiders:

    What are todays plays buddy?

    I just have that teaser and the 1st Half OVER so far...whatta you like buddy?

    I know it's been all favorites and I just think it stays that way......I'm contemplating putting in another teaser with Louisville -1.5/UNC -2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaRaiders:

    What are todays plays buddy?

    I just have that teaser and the 1st Half OVER so far...whatta you like buddy?

    I know it's been all favorites and I just think it stays that way......I'm contemplating putting in another teaser with Louisville -1.5/UNC -2.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2009 - 2:03 PM ET #19

    DAMMIT! Let's go Dallas Mavericks!!!!!  Get the upset baby! Beat these mofos! 
     
    Put my Lakers back in the #1 overall spot!!! 
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    DAMMIT! Let's go Dallas Mavericks!!!!!  Get the upset baby! Beat these mofos! 
     
    Put my Lakers back in the #1 overall spot!!! 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2009 - 2:05 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by L8kersFan74:

    DAMMIT! Let's go Dallas Mavericks!!!!!  Get the upset baby! Beat these mofos! 
     
    Put my Lakers back in the #1 overall spot!!! 

     

      NEVER!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by L8kersFan74:

    DAMMIT! Let's go Dallas Mavericks!!!!!  Get the upset baby! Beat these mofos! 
     
    Put my Lakers back in the #1 overall spot!!! 

     

      NEVER!!!!

     
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    sorry, i believe Izzo is BSing, how can they play at that tempo and be successful?  

    why change your game plan 35 games into the season and on the most important game thus far, doesn't sound like a good plan and if Izzo really does change to a fast pace tempo then he knows his team doesn't match up well and needs to pull a rabbit out of his hat to give his team a chance
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    sorry, i believe Izzo is BSing, how can they play at that tempo and be successful?  

    why change your game plan 35 games into the season and on the most important game thus far, doesn't sound like a good plan and if Izzo really does change to a fast pace tempo then he knows his team doesn't match up well and needs to pull a rabbit out of his hat to give his team a chance
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2009 - 2:13 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by ceecare:

     

      NEVER!!!!

     

    How you been doin' ma'am? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by ceecare:

     

      NEVER!!!!

     

    How you been doin' ma'am? 

     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2009 - 2:14 PM ET #23

    i'm not sure that's a good strategy from Izzo, but i'm taking the points anyways.

    good luck on the over
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    i'm not sure that's a good strategy from Izzo, but i'm taking the points anyways.

    good luck on the over
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2009 - 2:16 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by L8kersFan74:

     

    How you been doin' ma'am? 

     

    GOOD I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING YOU...  WE HAVE BEEN DOING GREAT!!!

    WITH ONE TO GO! 

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    Quote Originally Posted by L8kersFan74:

     

    How you been doin' ma'am? 

     

    GOOD I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING YOU...  WE HAVE BEEN DOING GREAT!!!

    WITH ONE TO GO! 

     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2009 - 2:21 PM ET #25

    1st Half Over 65.
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