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    As Posted, was in Large on WKU +21...My Reaction to the Line movement against me at WKU +24.5

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    Ducks_Homer
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2014 - 3:47 PM ET #1

    Quote Originally Posted by Cooler999:

    24 ..YIKES

    Nothing makes me feel dumber (at least gambling wise) than UNLOADING on what I viewed as a very attractive line, and then seeing it go to more than a FG in the other direction. We all bet lines and see slight movement against us, but OVER A FG!  My book has it as WKU +24.5.  If I  had "nibbled" at +21, then no big deal....just start betting more on the better line on such a strong lean.  But, I bet large at WKU +21.

    I just emptied the roll on WKU +24.5.  The smart thing, perhaps, would have been to just let the large wager play out, and maybe I am being bated.  However, I think Marshall is over rated.  I think squares are pushing the line.  They see an 11-0 team that just broke the top 25 and is now ranked #24 nationally, and their highly rated defense that is #6 in the country.  These are people that don't dig deeper.  I see a defense that is ranked #6 in the country because they haven't played a good offense yet, thus making the #6 ranking seriously skewed.  I see a surging WKU team that Doughty, Dangerfield, and Allen probably not winning, but scoring some gaddam points!

    So, go ahead and take Marshall, and tell me about their #6 nationally rated defense, and WKU's horrendous defense ranked at #116 nationally (that part is true, it is horrendous).  While you're scratching the surface about national rankings, I'm doing the sweat labor and digging far deeper.  I'm looking at why teams are ranked as they are.  I am looking at how they've played lately.  I am thinking about such things as "this is Doughty's last game in college, how will his team rally for him (big, BTW)?"

    WKU +21 - Large

    WKU +24.5 - UBER LARGE

    A couple of final thoughts:

    1)  Why get so amped over such  "non-sexy" game?  I've made FAT STACKS on the games that are not on the radar.  

    2)  IF, and I mean IF, WKU can get up with an early TD, I will limit this much exposure by buying Marshall at any number under -21.  I will still be large on WKU, but probably shouldn't have thousands of dollars on it.  I am in BALLS DEEP.  If Marshall is up and running off the bat, then there is no escape route, and it will just have to play out.

    3)   While the line movement sucks for me, it makes me no less right or wrong for pounding WKU +21.  I don't think the lines makers play the game.

    4)    If I lose this, I am taking a break for a while.  Not because of any embarrassment on this forum, but because it will be a big loss of several thousand dollar.  I can take it, but I don't want to gamble just to chase.  Not the type to start a fake ID and start over.....some of us are real money betters.  And some of us do bet in the thousands.  Not trying to sound like a big shot....my normal bet is around $100 = $250.

    If I lose, life is good.  First anniversary with girlfriend, and she planned something big.  All I know is to be at Miami International Airport on Wed at 9:30 AM, and the destination/trip/itinerary is a surprise.  I don't know if I am going to New York, LA, or around the corner to the fridgen' Bahamas.  I do know that I am paying for it, but it's very sweet of her to make a big deal out of our first year.  

    Good luck guys.....and....

    GO HILLTOPPERS!!!!!!!!


    PS - If I lose, see you in a few months, right after I re-enter this thread, long enough to take my medicine like a man.

    PPS-  At least I wear my balls on my sleeve before kickoff. 



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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooler999:

    24 ..YIKES

    Nothing makes me feel dumber (at least gambling wise) than UNLOADING on what I viewed as a very attractive line, and then seeing it go to more than a FG in the other direction. We all bet lines and see slight movement against us, but OVER A FG!  My book has it as WKU +24.5.  If I  had "nibbled" at +21, then no big deal....just start betting more on the better line on such a strong lean.  But, I bet large at WKU +21.

    I just emptied the roll on WKU +24.5.  The smart thing, perhaps, would have been to just let the large wager play out, and maybe I am being bated.  However, I think Marshall is over rated.  I think squares are pushing the line.  They see an 11-0 team that just broke the top 25 and is now ranked #24 nationally, and their highly rated defense that is #6 in the country.  These are people that don't dig deeper.  I see a defense that is ranked #6 in the country because they haven't played a good offense yet, thus making the #6 ranking seriously skewed.  I see a surging WKU team that Doughty, Dangerfield, and Allen probably not winning, but scoring some gaddam points!

    So, go ahead and take Marshall, and tell me about their #6 nationally rated defense, and WKU's horrendous defense ranked at #116 nationally (that part is true, it is horrendous).  While you're scratching the surface about national rankings, I'm doing the sweat labor and digging far deeper.  I'm looking at why teams are ranked as they are.  I am looking at how they've played lately.  I am thinking about such things as "this is Doughty's last game in college, how will his team rally for him (big, BTW)?"

    WKU +21 - Large

    WKU +24.5 - UBER LARGE

    A couple of final thoughts:

    1)  Why get so amped over such  "non-sexy" game?  I've made FAT STACKS on the games that are not on the radar.  

    2)  IF, and I mean IF, WKU can get up with an early TD, I will limit this much exposure by buying Marshall at any number under -21.  I will still be large on WKU, but probably shouldn't have thousands of dollars on it.  I am in BALLS DEEP.  If Marshall is up and running off the bat, then there is no escape route, and it will just have to play out.

    3)   While the line movement sucks for me, it makes me no less right or wrong for pounding WKU +21.  I don't think the lines makers play the game.

    4)    If I lose this, I am taking a break for a while.  Not because of any embarrassment on this forum, but because it will be a big loss of several thousand dollar.  I can take it, but I don't want to gamble just to chase.  Not the type to start a fake ID and start over.....some of us are real money betters.  And some of us do bet in the thousands.  Not trying to sound like a big shot....my normal bet is around $100 = $250.

    If I lose, life is good.  First anniversary with girlfriend, and she planned something big.  All I know is to be at Miami International Airport on Wed at 9:30 AM, and the destination/trip/itinerary is a surprise.  I don't know if I am going to New York, LA, or around the corner to the fridgen' Bahamas.  I do know that I am paying for it, but it's very sweet of her to make a big deal out of our first year.  

    Good luck guys.....and....

    GO HILLTOPPERS!!!!!!!!


    PS - If I lose, see you in a few months, right after I re-enter this thread, long enough to take my medicine like a man.

    PPS-  At least I wear my balls on my sleeve before kickoff. 



     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2014 - 4:34 PM ET #2

    For the first time since I've been on Covers (2012), I just changed my avatar to something different than the Oregon mascot doing push-ups.  It's now WKU's Brandon Doughty for this game.  I figure it could wind up extra fodder for those of you who want to preach about Marshall's #6 defense.

    BTW....OF COURSE Cato and company are going to hang hang 45+ on WKU....I get that as, all my posts have said.  But my boys Doughty, Dangerfield, Allen (etc) will have something to say about preparing for a track meat!

    Let's go out in style Doughty and Company!
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    For the first time since I've been on Covers (2012), I just changed my avatar to something different than the Oregon mascot doing push-ups.  It's now WKU's Brandon Doughty for this game.  I figure it could wind up extra fodder for those of you who want to preach about Marshall's #6 defense.

    BTW....OF COURSE Cato and company are going to hang hang 45+ on WKU....I get that as, all my posts have said.  But my boys Doughty, Dangerfield, Allen (etc) will have something to say about preparing for a track meat!

    Let's go out in style Doughty and Company!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2014 - 4:38 PM ET #3

    Forgot.....one last thing.  I am in for thousands, and have even taken shots at myself for the line movement against me.  It is what it is.  Feel free to insult.....BUT BEFORE KICKOFF!  If you own a pair of testicles, tell me why you're with me, or why I am a dumb-azz.  

    If you tell me I am wrong before kick off, and you are proven right, then you have free reign to hold nothing back at what will be a huge loss (several thousand),  and what I probably should have made as $200 bet.
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    Forgot.....one last thing.  I am in for thousands, and have even taken shots at myself for the line movement against me.  It is what it is.  Feel free to insult.....BUT BEFORE KICKOFF!  If you own a pair of testicles, tell me why you're with me, or why I am a dumb-azz.  

    If you tell me I am wrong before kick off, and you are proven right, then you have free reign to hold nothing back at what will be a huge loss (several thousand),  and what I probably should have made as $200 bet.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2014 - 4:45 PM ET #4

    On it too at 23.5.  BOL to you this weekend
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    On it too at 23.5.  BOL to you this weekend
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2014 - 4:52 PM ET #5

    Ducks_Homer,
         WKU +21.5 was the first bet I made on Sunday when the lines came out.  I'm surprised by the heavy line movement as well.  BOL.  

    TD
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    Ducks_Homer,
         WKU +21.5 was the first bet I made on Sunday when the lines came out.  I'm surprised by the heavy line movement as well.  BOL.  

    TD
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2014 - 5:12 PM ET #6

    Like the play Mah man GL this weekend *& Happy Thanksgiving to you & your family Ducks_Homer *quack *handshake;$
    What do you call an Eternal Optimist? An accordion player with a beeper!
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    Like the play Mah man GL this weekend *& Happy Thanksgiving to you & your family Ducks_Homer *quack *handshake;$
     
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    Posted: Nov. 27, 2014 - 5:25 PM ET #7

    Glad I'm not alone. I got it at WKU +24.5 and even threw a small amount on the ML +1335. I don't think they win, but it honestly wouldn't surprise me. At those odds I couldn't resist putting a little bit on it. I never double hit a bet on a line change. But I think you will be good on both. Marshall will have to score a ton to cover. BOL bro
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    Glad I'm not alone. I got it at WKU +24.5 and even threw a small amount on the ML +1335. I don't think they win, but it honestly wouldn't surprise me. At those odds I couldn't resist putting a little bit on it. I never double hit a bet on a line change. But I think you will be good on both. Marshall will have to score a ton to cover. BOL bro
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 1:32 AM ET #8

    "Nothing makes me feel dumber (at least gambling wise) than UNLOADING on what I viewed as a very attractive line, and then seeing it go to more than a FG in the other direction."

    Well said. We've all been there before and when it happens in games you have such confidence in your handicap on, it's hard not to say "eff that" and add to your outlay. It did strike me as a hefty price against a team that can score with them but one bad aspect is Marshall figures to bring its A-game tomorrow. It's final home game with possible new year day bowl on line and off a frustrating win last week which really wasn't the result of any weaknesses being exposed. Marshall is an impossible team for C-Usa d's to stop with their speed and balance. But I'm with you on this, albeit quite smaller, because we'll get a great effort from a very capable team that may even be on the improve this late in the season and as long as they never fall beyond one score out, which may never happen and now means 31, we'll be very much alive. Good luck brotha...
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    "Nothing makes me feel dumber (at least gambling wise) than UNLOADING on what I viewed as a very attractive line, and then seeing it go to more than a FG in the other direction."

    Well said. We've all been there before and when it happens in games you have such confidence in your handicap on, it's hard not to say "eff that" and add to your outlay. It did strike me as a hefty price against a team that can score with them but one bad aspect is Marshall figures to bring its A-game tomorrow. It's final home game with possible new year day bowl on line and off a frustrating win last week which really wasn't the result of any weaknesses being exposed. Marshall is an impossible team for C-Usa d's to stop with their speed and balance. But I'm with you on this, albeit quite smaller, because we'll get a great effort from a very capable team that may even be on the improve this late in the season and as long as they never fall beyond one score out, which may never happen and now means 31, we'll be very much alive. Good luck brotha...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 5:45 AM ET #9

    good luck to you man!

    i did an uber small parlay on WKU +26.5 and over 71.5. 
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    good luck to you man!

    i did an uber small parlay on WKU +26.5 and over 71.5. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 6:13 AM ET #10

    Good luck on your play. 

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    Good luck on your play. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 7:56 AM ET #11

    Very good luck for your pick, i will follow you in a small bet!
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    Very good luck for your pick, i will follow you in a small bet!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 8:46 AM ET #12

    Good luck everyone!  I won a large bet on the Seahawks last night (as posted in NFL), so that take a little pressure off.  If WKU can cover ATS, it will be my biggest week ever.
     
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    Good luck everyone!  I won a large bet on the Seahawks last night (as posted in NFL), so that take a little pressure off.  If WKU can cover ATS, it will be my biggest week ever.
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 9:22 AM ET #13

    Fair call I reckon. WKU has been in good form and should be able to keep it close, however they'll really need to be firing against Marshall.

    Best of luck.
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    Fair call I reckon. WKU has been in good form and should be able to keep it close, however they'll really need to be firing against Marshall.

    Best of luck.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 10:15 AM ET #14

    Good luck Ducks_Homer. I thought 21 was a pretty fair line. It was 21 when Marshall played Rice at Marshall. I consider Rice a more balanced and better team than WKU. Rice got smoke 41-14. I watched that game and it seemed like Marshall wasn't even really trying on offense. They held on defense, just seemed vanilla on offense. 

    Now Im sure Rice is more balanced top to bottom than WKU but I'm positive WKU offense is far superior. Maybe that's enough for them to cover. Also it's a weird Thanksgiving type of week and a Friday game so again that could benefit the away team. Anyway I'm rambling about nothing. Good luck though.
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    Good luck Ducks_Homer. I thought 21 was a pretty fair line. It was 21 when Marshall played Rice at Marshall. I consider Rice a more balanced and better team than WKU. Rice got smoke 41-14. I watched that game and it seemed like Marshall wasn't even really trying on offense. They held on defense, just seemed vanilla on offense. 

    Now Im sure Rice is more balanced top to bottom than WKU but I'm positive WKU offense is far superior. Maybe that's enough for them to cover. Also it's a weird Thanksgiving type of week and a Friday game so again that could benefit the away team. Anyway I'm rambling about nothing. Good luck though.
     
    mrquija27
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 10:18 AM ET #15

    I honestly don't understand this line myself.  I'd be less confused if the line was -10 -13 maybe.  But -24.  Wtf.  Maybe we lose but I'm not over thinking this one.  I'll take any team who knows how to put up big numbers +24
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    I honestly don't understand this line myself.  I'd be less confused if the line was -10 -13 maybe.  But -24.  Wtf.  Maybe we lose but I'm not over thinking this one.  I'll take any team who knows how to put up big numbers +24
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 10:22 AM ET #16

    Good luck.  You seem like an honest bloke.

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
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    Good luck.  You seem like an honest bloke.

     
    UTEP_2STEP
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 10:25 AM ET #17

    Coming from a fan over at UTEP, I know it's not much but WKU offense has it going on this year. I'm puzzled at this line....

    Let's go WKU!
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    Coming from a fan over at UTEP, I know it's not much but WKU offense has it going on this year. I'm puzzled at this line....

    Let's go WKU!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 10:33 AM ET #18

    all this mafe me decide to put WKU in a 10 point teaser...what the hell...
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    all this mafe me decide to put WKU in a 10 point teaser...what the hell...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 10:37 AM ET #19

    Marshall has covered a lot of these big lines this year, -21 to Rice won 41-14, -27 SOMISS won 63-17, -21 FIU won 45-13, -23.5 MTU won 49-24, -20.5 to Ohio won 44-14 plus they wont to make a statement today I see them putting up big numbers today
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    Marshall has covered a lot of these big lines this year, -21 to Rice won 41-14, -27 SOMISS won 63-17, -21 FIU won 45-13, -23.5 MTU won 49-24, -20.5 to Ohio won 44-14 plus they wont to make a statement today I see them putting up big numbers today
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 10:47 AM ET #20

    I love public reverse line movement-find comfort in the Super Bowl my friend-I just kept betting more on Seattle all week and even live...biggest win for me ever...seems similar here too...the books have to collect juice...I collected vs. Marshall in the 2nd half last week vs. UAB-they almost blew that one...GL!
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    I love public reverse line movement-find comfort in the Super Bowl my friend-I just kept betting more on Seattle all week and even live...biggest win for me ever...seems similar here too...the books have to collect juice...I collected vs. Marshall in the 2nd half last week vs. UAB-they almost blew that one...GL!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 10:50 AM ET #21

    Best of L:uck Brother 
    BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
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    Best of L:uck Brother 
     
    MGD
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 10:50 AM ET #22

    GL and hope it is a winner, I am on the same side!  If nothing else, enjoy the upcoming trip!!   
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    GL and hope it is a winner, I am on the same side!  If nothing else, enjoy the upcoming trip!!   
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 11:01 AM ET #23

    I'm on it also, but I took the fat free, sorry, drama free wager.

    WKU +24.5

    Let do this.

    See you around.....................

     

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    I'm on it also, but I took the fat free, sorry, drama free wager.

    WKU +24.5

    Let do this.

    See you around.....................

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 12:20 PM ET #24

    14-0 start for you.
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    14-0 start for you.
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2014 - 12:22 PM ET #25

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