I don't entirely agree with you. I think Boise would get in if undefeated ahead of a 2 loss team that the Committee has mad wood for like a FSU. But a one-loss FSU trumps them.
But for them to make it there would have to be a ton of teams with 2 losses.
Even then, I don't see how they make it against a Pac-12 champion with 2 losses or a big ten team with 2 losses,and after saturday's win Houston is ahead of them too.
Sorry but I don't see any possible scenario of getting in against some 2 loss teams like a big conference champion or someone like ND. Boise doesn't have too many quality W's on their schedule this year.
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Quote Originally Posted by squirrelhunter:
I don't entirely agree with you. I think Boise would get in if undefeated ahead of a 2 loss team that the Committee has mad wood for like a FSU. But a one-loss FSU trumps them.
But for them to make it there would have to be a ton of teams with 2 losses.
Even then, I don't see how they make it against a Pac-12 champion with 2 losses or a big ten team with 2 losses,and after saturday's win Houston is ahead of them too.
Sorry but I don't see any possible scenario of getting in against some 2 loss teams like a big conference champion or someone like ND. Boise doesn't have too many quality W's on their schedule this year.
Yes they would. The Boise State offense will look like it did when Kellen Moore was starting this season. With that said, Alabama would still route them.
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Quote Originally Posted by Tappy:
They wouldn't score a TD if they played Bama...
Yes they would. The Boise State offense will look like it did when Kellen Moore was starting this season. With that said, Alabama would still route them.
If you put that $10 in every Boise game as a ML and rolled over the proceeds on to the next ML, including the playoffs, I guarantee you will have more than 220-1. You will also have the option to bail out. You would have your $2200 before a playoff game even starts.
If Boise loses a game, then you would've lost $10 anyways.
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Quote Originally Posted by Tomkopec:
Its $10 let me have my fun
If you put that $10 in every Boise game as a ML and rolled over the proceeds on to the next ML, including the playoffs, I guarantee you will have more than 220-1. You will also have the option to bail out. You would have your $2200 before a playoff game even starts.
If Boise loses a game, then you would've lost $10 anyways.
If you put that $10 in every Boise game as a ML and rolled over the proceeds on to the next ML, including the playoffs, I guarantee you will have more than 220-1. You will also have the option to bail out. You would have your $2200 before a playoff game even starts.
If Boise loses a game, then you would've lost $10 anyways.
Highly unlikely.........BSU will be favored in most of their games, & heavily in many of them. Betting them on the ML will, should they win them all, show a profit but not 220/1.
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Quote Originally Posted by m0rtgageguy:
If you put that $10 in every Boise game as a ML and rolled over the proceeds on to the next ML, including the playoffs, I guarantee you will have more than 220-1. You will also have the option to bail out. You would have your $2200 before a playoff game even starts.
If Boise loses a game, then you would've lost $10 anyways.
Highly unlikely.........BSU will be favored in most of their games, & heavily in many of them. Betting them on the ML will, should they win them all, show a profit but not 220/1.
Highly unlikely.........BSU will be favored in most of their games, & heavily in many of them. Betting them on the ML will, should they win them all, show a profit but not 220/1.
You're right. Probably not. Actually I took the time to do some math...
If Boise State was -350 in each game, to win 'em all would pay about 20 to 1.
If they were -300 on average, then about 30 to 1.
The question is, IF they go undefeated, what are the chances they make the playoffs? I would say less than 10%.
IF they make the playoffs, what are the chances they beat Bama? 2% maybe?
What will the odds be for Boise to:
a) Go undefeated (we already established that at around 20 to 30 to 1 including juice)
b) Make the playoffs
c) Beat the two best teams in the country including Alabama. Those teams will probably include Alabama and one of: FSU, Ohio State, Michigan, Houston or Clemson. Those are the elites of the nation.
There is zero chance. A $1 scratch off ticket has a better chance to win $220. Those odds are offered as accumulated juice on the multiplying factors of Boise State winning each one of their games, making the playoffs, and winning out.
Heck, even if we gave Boise State 100% to win out, the 220 to 1 looks iffy.
The Lotto Max here can reach up to $55,000,000. It costs $5 to play 3 combinations. The odds of winning are 60 million to 1 against. So 20 million to 1 against to win $55M (if no one else wins) for your $5.
It's only $5, so why not eh? It's only $5.
I wouldn't mind the bet if it had a chance. A quantitative CHANCE.
The Columbus Blue Jackets have a QUANTITATIVE chance of winning the Stanley Cup. And that's offered at 65 to 1.
The Cincinatti Reds had a QUANTITATIVE chance at winning the World Series.
Here we have a subjective ranking where no way an SEC Champ gets left out, even with 2 losses. No way a 1-loss Big 10 Champ gets left out. No way an ACC Champ in Clemson or FSU gets left out. There are way too many deathmines for Boise State to even make the playoffs.
... IF they go undefeated.
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Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:
Highly unlikely.........BSU will be favored in most of their games, & heavily in many of them. Betting them on the ML will, should they win them all, show a profit but not 220/1.
You're right. Probably not. Actually I took the time to do some math...
If Boise State was -350 in each game, to win 'em all would pay about 20 to 1.
If they were -300 on average, then about 30 to 1.
The question is, IF they go undefeated, what are the chances they make the playoffs? I would say less than 10%.
IF they make the playoffs, what are the chances they beat Bama? 2% maybe?
What will the odds be for Boise to:
a) Go undefeated (we already established that at around 20 to 30 to 1 including juice)
b) Make the playoffs
c) Beat the two best teams in the country including Alabama. Those teams will probably include Alabama and one of: FSU, Ohio State, Michigan, Houston or Clemson. Those are the elites of the nation.
There is zero chance. A $1 scratch off ticket has a better chance to win $220. Those odds are offered as accumulated juice on the multiplying factors of Boise State winning each one of their games, making the playoffs, and winning out.
Heck, even if we gave Boise State 100% to win out, the 220 to 1 looks iffy.
The Lotto Max here can reach up to $55,000,000. It costs $5 to play 3 combinations. The odds of winning are 60 million to 1 against. So 20 million to 1 against to win $55M (if no one else wins) for your $5.
It's only $5, so why not eh? It's only $5.
I wouldn't mind the bet if it had a chance. A quantitative CHANCE.
The Columbus Blue Jackets have a QUANTITATIVE chance of winning the Stanley Cup. And that's offered at 65 to 1.
The Cincinatti Reds had a QUANTITATIVE chance at winning the World Series.
Here we have a subjective ranking where no way an SEC Champ gets left out, even with 2 losses. No way a 1-loss Big 10 Champ gets left out. No way an ACC Champ in Clemson or FSU gets left out. There are way too many deathmines for Boise State to even make the playoffs.
What if the Aztecs went undefeated too up until their conference championship game. Would that make a stronger case?
Sure.
The Azteks also having the cupcake schedule, could go undefeated.. I mean they have to play the mighty Hawaii Ranbow Warriors, SJSU and UNLV at home
So now we need Boise State to go undefeated AND SDSU up until the MW conference game
IF all that could happen, AND there is major cannibalism amongst the Power Conference elites, then sure Boise would have a legitimate case of getting into the playoffs.
Now let's talk about Boise State winning 2 games against the two best teams in the country, probably Alabama and then Michigan or FSU.
2% and the 6% = 833 to 1
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Quote Originally Posted by Tomkopec:
What if the Aztecs went undefeated too up until their conference championship game. Would that make a stronger case?
Sure.
The Azteks also having the cupcake schedule, could go undefeated.. I mean they have to play the mighty Hawaii Ranbow Warriors, SJSU and UNLV at home
So now we need Boise State to go undefeated AND SDSU up until the MW conference game
IF all that could happen, AND there is major cannibalism amongst the Power Conference elites, then sure Boise would have a legitimate case of getting into the playoffs.
Now let's talk about Boise State winning 2 games against the two best teams in the country, probably Alabama and then Michigan or FSU.
P.S. I would absolutely LOVE to see Boise State win every game by 50 à la 2007 and beat an undefeated MW team in the conference game AND beat Bama in the playoffs. Just imagine the hype.
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P.S. I would absolutely LOVE to see Boise State win every game by 50 à la 2007 and beat an undefeated MW team in the conference game AND beat Bama in the playoffs. Just imagine the hype.
I'm from Boise and I cap every BSU game. Having said that, I already hate this weeks tilt. Does the WSU team from 2015 show up or do we get the 2015 version that loses it's first game to Eastern Wash? At home no less.
If you took your winnings each week and plowed them into the next game- parlaying the whole banana week after week- you'd make a fortune. Instead of moneylines- I'd use points though. You'd have 1754 by week 9.
M4N
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DannerB7 has the right idea.
I'm from Boise and I cap every BSU game. Having said that, I already hate this weeks tilt. Does the WSU team from 2015 show up or do we get the 2015 version that loses it's first game to Eastern Wash? At home no less.
If you took your winnings each week and plowed them into the next game- parlaying the whole banana week after week- you'd make a fortune. Instead of moneylines- I'd use points though. You'd have 1754 by week 9.
Even undefeated I still think it's impossible for them to win a championship.
Even if in their best case scenario, Washington St wins the Pac12, how are you going to put them ahead of a possible 1 loss Louisville or a second place SEC team or whoever lose Michigan - Ohio St. Heck even in the BIG 12 there are 2 undefeated teams.
They are a lock for a new year's bowl, but playoffs? Not happening.
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Even undefeated I still think it's impossible for them to win a championship.
Even if in their best case scenario, Washington St wins the Pac12, how are you going to put them ahead of a possible 1 loss Louisville or a second place SEC team or whoever lose Michigan - Ohio St. Heck even in the BIG 12 there are 2 undefeated teams.
They are a lock for a new year's bowl, but playoffs? Not happening.
Even undefeated I still think it's impossible for them to win a championship.
Even if in their best case scenario, Washington St wins the Pac12, how are you going to put them ahead of a possible 1 loss Louisville or a second place SEC team or whoever lose Michigan - Ohio St. Heck even in the BIG 12 there are 2 undefeated teams.
They are a lock for a new year's bowl, but playoffs? Not happening.
Of course a lot of other things have to fall into place. 4 out of the 5 P5 conference champions needs to have 2 losses + Washington state needs to win the Pac 12. In this scenario Boise get's in. All they have to do is get 1 of the 4 spots. They win out plus a bunch of upsets and they they end the season ranked top 5.
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Quote Originally Posted by BerkshireEBull:
Even undefeated I still think it's impossible for them to win a championship.
Even if in their best case scenario, Washington St wins the Pac12, how are you going to put them ahead of a possible 1 loss Louisville or a second place SEC team or whoever lose Michigan - Ohio St. Heck even in the BIG 12 there are 2 undefeated teams.
They are a lock for a new year's bowl, but playoffs? Not happening.
Of course a lot of other things have to fall into place. 4 out of the 5 P5 conference champions needs to have 2 losses + Washington state needs to win the Pac 12. In this scenario Boise get's in. All they have to do is get 1 of the 4 spots. They win out plus a bunch of upsets and they they end the season ranked top 5.
It is going to be tough to get in......but if they do, look out. They have some talent and are pretty formidable on defense.
If WSU can win the Pac, and good luck dealing with UW right now, then they have a shot.
BUT, if UW wins the Pac then they will represent the West Coast in the playoff. Followed by at least 1 Big Ten, SEC, and ACC team.
Even at 150-1, it looks like dead money.
You could really argue that Bosie State is basically WSU. If WSU wins out Boise will be the PAC 12's representative in the playoffs. The SDSU loss to South Alabama was huge. SDSU would have been a top 15 ranked team when they play Boise later this year.
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Quote Originally Posted by bigvern1013:
It is going to be tough to get in......but if they do, look out. They have some talent and are pretty formidable on defense.
If WSU can win the Pac, and good luck dealing with UW right now, then they have a shot.
BUT, if UW wins the Pac then they will represent the West Coast in the playoff. Followed by at least 1 Big Ten, SEC, and ACC team.
Even at 150-1, it looks like dead money.
You could really argue that Bosie State is basically WSU. If WSU wins out Boise will be the PAC 12's representative in the playoffs. The SDSU loss to South Alabama was huge. SDSU would have been a top 15 ranked team when they play Boise later this year.
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