8 years of Playoff Selection Committee history right here: Fewest losses has been the #1 deciding factor when determining the top 4 1. No team has ever made the Playoff with more losses than a team that was left out 2. Among teams with 1 loss, Conference Champ trumps non-conference champ. No non-champ has ever made Playoff over a Conference Champ with the same number of losses
This, Go back to when 11-1 OSU made it in over 11-2 Penn St despite Penn St winning H2H and winning the Big 10 title. I feel like the only teams in question are USC and OSU, USC wins they are in, they lose OSU is in. The other 3 spots should already be locked down with UGA, Mich, and TCU
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Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:
8 years of Playoff Selection Committee history right here: Fewest losses has been the #1 deciding factor when determining the top 4 1. No team has ever made the Playoff with more losses than a team that was left out 2. Among teams with 1 loss, Conference Champ trumps non-conference champ. No non-champ has ever made Playoff over a Conference Champ with the same number of losses
This, Go back to when 11-1 OSU made it in over 11-2 Penn St despite Penn St winning H2H and winning the Big 10 title. I feel like the only teams in question are USC and OSU, USC wins they are in, they lose OSU is in. The other 3 spots should already be locked down with UGA, Mich, and TCU
Quote Originally Posted by Last2thirst: Quote Originally Posted by BennyIcers: If USC loses. They clearly deserve in. Who else does? TENNESSEE!! or BUCKEYES !! ....better conference was BIG10 (dare I say it? ) Buckeyes just got smoked at home. Bama has two 2 losses of a combined 4 pts.
It was a 4 point game after 3 quarters and it was an 11 point game with under 5 minutes and OSU in the red zone. OSU was also outgaining michigan in yards until the final TD run late, OSU didn't get smoked
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Quote Originally Posted by BennyIcers:
Quote Originally Posted by Last2thirst: Quote Originally Posted by BennyIcers: If USC loses. They clearly deserve in. Who else does? TENNESSEE!! or BUCKEYES !! ....better conference was BIG10 (dare I say it? ) Buckeyes just got smoked at home. Bama has two 2 losses of a combined 4 pts.
It was a 4 point game after 3 quarters and it was an 11 point game with under 5 minutes and OSU in the red zone. OSU was also outgaining michigan in yards until the final TD run late, OSU didn't get smoked
It was NOT an 11 point game with under 5 minutes, it was 15 points from the 7 minute mark.
Buckeyes were out rushed in 2nd half 242-19.
But I hear what your saying. I made a couple of hundred bet last summer Buckeyes would go undefeated in regular season @ +180. Weather perfect, home game, revenge factor, 70% of Michigan's offense hobbled, and Buckeyes last lost games back to back to same Big10 team in 2004, decided not to hedge it.
Even with Buckeyes down in 4th by 15 I knew they had the ability to at least tie this game in 7 minutes. Man did they implode. The td pass that wasn't, spectacular play by Sainristil. Two int's. Michigan D was in typical "keep it all in front of you" mode and it worked. At the same time Buckeye defense imploded after Michigan's 15-play, 7 minute drive to end the third quarter.
A blowout from start to finish? Not at all.
A total implosion with game on the line? Yep.
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It was NOT an 11 point game with under 5 minutes, it was 15 points from the 7 minute mark.
Buckeyes were out rushed in 2nd half 242-19.
But I hear what your saying. I made a couple of hundred bet last summer Buckeyes would go undefeated in regular season @ +180. Weather perfect, home game, revenge factor, 70% of Michigan's offense hobbled, and Buckeyes last lost games back to back to same Big10 team in 2004, decided not to hedge it.
Even with Buckeyes down in 4th by 15 I knew they had the ability to at least tie this game in 7 minutes. Man did they implode. The td pass that wasn't, spectacular play by Sainristil. Two int's. Michigan D was in typical "keep it all in front of you" mode and it worked. At the same time Buckeye defense imploded after Michigan's 15-play, 7 minute drive to end the third quarter.
I meant to put 14 there, which means i still failed math, but the point still stands that it was a 2 score game with under 5 left and the trailing team in the red zone. This game was really entertaining throughout until the red zone INT(maybe not to OSU fans and bettors) and no where near a thumping as some are trying to make it out to be. This game would be in the misleading score category that a couple good posters do weekly here.
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I meant to put 14 there, which means i still failed math, but the point still stands that it was a 2 score game with under 5 left and the trailing team in the red zone. This game was really entertaining throughout until the red zone INT(maybe not to OSU fans and bettors) and no where near a thumping as some are trying to make it out to be. This game would be in the misleading score category that a couple good posters do weekly here.
Quote Originally Posted by Last2thirst: Quote Originally Posted by BennyIcers: If USC loses. They clearly deserve in. Who else does? TENNESSEE!! or BUCKEYES !! ....better conference was BIG10 (dare I say it? ) Buckeyes just got smoked at home. Bama has two 2 losses of a combined 4 pts.
Ok, I will give you that...what a about the other shoe ?
Who won between Vols and Bama?
That was the season right there....certainly Saban would concede to this"? Why not his fans?
Proving is truth. Talk is cheap.
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Quote Originally Posted by BennyIcers:
Quote Originally Posted by Last2thirst: Quote Originally Posted by BennyIcers: If USC loses. They clearly deserve in. Who else does? TENNESSEE!! or BUCKEYES !! ....better conference was BIG10 (dare I say it? ) Buckeyes just got smoked at home. Bama has two 2 losses of a combined 4 pts.
Ok, I will give you that...what a about the other shoe ?
Who won between Vols and Bama?
That was the season right there....certainly Saban would concede to this"? Why not his fans?
Can't get hung up on bama for their reputation. They're just not a great team this year. Good? Sure, but not the bama many seem to think they always are. I don't agree with "bama would destroy USC on the field" sentiments.......bama gave up 52 to Tennessee......don't think that would happen vs. USC?
I'm not a USC fan but would like to see them in the playoffs.......for two reasons. One, just to see if that offense could do anything vs. Georgia, & two, it would put the Huskies in the Rose bowl....
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Can't get hung up on bama for their reputation. They're just not a great team this year. Good? Sure, but not the bama many seem to think they always are. I don't agree with "bama would destroy USC on the field" sentiments.......bama gave up 52 to Tennessee......don't think that would happen vs. USC?
I'm not a USC fan but would like to see them in the playoffs.......for two reasons. One, just to see if that offense could do anything vs. Georgia, & two, it would put the Huskies in the Rose bowl....
Can't get hung up on bama for their reputation. They're just not a great team this year. Good? Sure, but not the bama many seem to think they always are. I don't agree with "bama would destroy USC on the field" sentiments.......bama gave up 52 to Tennessee......don't think that would happen vs. USC? I'm not a USC fan but would like to see them in the playoffs.......for two reasons. One, just to see if that offense could do anything vs. Georgia, & two, it would put the Huskies in the Rose bowl....
USC can hang 52 on anyone and lose.
It will all figure itself out. If USC plays Bama on neutral field I will take Bama.
No way? Way
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Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:
Can't get hung up on bama for their reputation. They're just not a great team this year. Good? Sure, but not the bama many seem to think they always are. I don't agree with "bama would destroy USC on the field" sentiments.......bama gave up 52 to Tennessee......don't think that would happen vs. USC? I'm not a USC fan but would like to see them in the playoffs.......for two reasons. One, just to see if that offense could do anything vs. Georgia, & two, it would put the Huskies in the Rose bowl....
USC can hang 52 on anyone and lose.
It will all figure itself out. If USC plays Bama on neutral field I will take Bama.
U$C wont lose. if they do, 1 loss tOSU likely gets in. I suspect the Pac12 will do everything possible to ensure U$C wins here. While they surely hate that the Trojans are leaving to the B1G, the conference needs the exposure having rarely been to the playoffs.
TCU should be in regardless if they win or lose. Their resume is better than Alabama's (beating 5 top 25 teams, 2 on the road) and still would have 1 loss compared to Bama's two. They may have luckboxed their way to a couple of wins, but so did Bama (Texas, TAMU.....)
Bama's loss to Tenny shouldnt count against them. But their defeat by a 4 loss LSU team should keep them out.
really hoping we get expanded playoffs soon. some teams are left out that shouldnt be. and many fans have grown weary of seeing the same 6 teams make it year after year.
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U$C wont lose. if they do, 1 loss tOSU likely gets in. I suspect the Pac12 will do everything possible to ensure U$C wins here. While they surely hate that the Trojans are leaving to the B1G, the conference needs the exposure having rarely been to the playoffs.
TCU should be in regardless if they win or lose. Their resume is better than Alabama's (beating 5 top 25 teams, 2 on the road) and still would have 1 loss compared to Bama's two. They may have luckboxed their way to a couple of wins, but so did Bama (Texas, TAMU.....)
Bama's loss to Tenny shouldnt count against them. But their defeat by a 4 loss LSU team should keep them out.
really hoping we get expanded playoffs soon. some teams are left out that shouldnt be. and many fans have grown weary of seeing the same 6 teams make it year after year.
@TRAIN69 been sayin it...on a nuetral Bama would be favored against anyone but Georgia. Ohio State probably go off as a pickem
Too funny.....after Michigan beats the #1 or #2 offense in College Football and #2 in the land...... by over 20 pts in a DECIDER GAME.... no fucken way Bama is favorite over MICHIGAN on a neutral
I repeat *see above VEGAS WOULD GET RAPED* .....NO FUCKEN WAY is Michigan gonna be a dog vs Alabama right now on an open field....
Proving is truth. Talk is cheap.
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Quote Originally Posted by Natty68:
@TRAIN69 been sayin it...on a nuetral Bama would be favored against anyone but Georgia. Ohio State probably go off as a pickem
Too funny.....after Michigan beats the #1 or #2 offense in College Football and #2 in the land...... by over 20 pts in a DECIDER GAME.... no fucken way Bama is favorite over MICHIGAN on a neutral
I repeat *see above VEGAS WOULD GET RAPED* .....NO FUCKEN WAY is Michigan gonna be a dog vs Alabama right now on an open field....
@BWS77 Depends on what tcu and USC do. Just wait and see. I think both win. But if both lose then take the Tide to win it all.. They will have the 2 best players on the field and of course Saban.. But the main thing is Bryce Young is finally healthy.....
Once again, no they are not getting in. 8 years of Committee history along them being placed in that #6 spot shows that. Nobody outside of Tuscaloosa can name a single WR on the team. They are Bryce Young and nothing else and that wasn't enough this year. They struggled when he was healthy, Saban never was able to adjust because he didn't have all that elite NFL talent at the skill positions this year. Take the name brand away from the team and what do you have?
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Quote Originally Posted by Longbeach102:
@BWS77 Depends on what tcu and USC do. Just wait and see. I think both win. But if both lose then take the Tide to win it all.. They will have the 2 best players on the field and of course Saban.. But the main thing is Bryce Young is finally healthy.....
Once again, no they are not getting in. 8 years of Committee history along them being placed in that #6 spot shows that. Nobody outside of Tuscaloosa can name a single WR on the team. They are Bryce Young and nothing else and that wasn't enough this year. They struggled when he was healthy, Saban never was able to adjust because he didn't have all that elite NFL talent at the skill positions this year. Take the name brand away from the team and what do you have?
Ain’t I body going to beat Bama now? Lol! There defense sucks and Young was healthy against LSU- Texas was whipping their azz handily until Ewers got hurt- their DB’s are terrible and their run defense is lousy. They are dangerous on offense but take your blinders off. They are very beatable this year. I hate Ohio St but they are not jumping them. They only get in if USC and TCU both lose and that’s not happening.
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@Longbeach102
Ain’t I body going to beat Bama now? Lol! There defense sucks and Young was healthy against LSU- Texas was whipping their azz handily until Ewers got hurt- their DB’s are terrible and their run defense is lousy. They are dangerous on offense but take your blinders off. They are very beatable this year. I hate Ohio St but they are not jumping them. They only get in if USC and TCU both lose and that’s not happening.
@buddygurt If tcu and USC lose. Osu and Bama r in. That's a fact.
That is not a fact at all lol, that is your opinion. TCU will need to get absolutely blown out to get left out of the playoff. USC loses and Ohio St is in. Bama only has a very outside shot.
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Quote Originally Posted by Longbeach102:
@buddygurt If tcu and USC lose. Osu and Bama r in. That's a fact.
That is not a fact at all lol, that is your opinion. TCU will need to get absolutely blown out to get left out of the playoff. USC loses and Ohio St is in. Bama only has a very outside shot.
Quote Originally Posted by Natty68: @TRAIN69 been sayin it...on a nuetral Bama would be favored against anyone but Georgia. Ohio State probably go off as a pickem Too funny.....after Michigan beats the #1 or #2 offense in College Football and #2 in the land...... by over 20 pts in a DECIDER GAME.... no fucken way Bama is favorite over MICHIGAN on a neutral I repeat *see above VEGAS WOULD GET RAPED* .....NO FUCKEN WAY is Michigan gonna be a dog vs Alabama right now on an open field....
According the Jeff Sagarin the game would be pickem.. So how exactly would Vegas get raped?
The SEC is ALOT stronger than the Big 10, and if the line came out pick'em, i would be all over Alabama.
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Quote Originally Posted by Last2thirst:
Quote Originally Posted by Natty68: @TRAIN69 been sayin it...on a nuetral Bama would be favored against anyone but Georgia. Ohio State probably go off as a pickem Too funny.....after Michigan beats the #1 or #2 offense in College Football and #2 in the land...... by over 20 pts in a DECIDER GAME.... no fucken way Bama is favorite over MICHIGAN on a neutral I repeat *see above VEGAS WOULD GET RAPED* .....NO FUCKEN WAY is Michigan gonna be a dog vs Alabama right now on an open field....
According the Jeff Sagarin the game would be pickem.. So how exactly would Vegas get raped?
The SEC is ALOT stronger than the Big 10, and if the line came out pick'em, i would be all over Alabama.
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