First Bowl Season Post. 1-2 thus far, up .3 dimes. Losers in Troy and Fresno St. Winner in AZ. On a ten unit scale, taking the Seminoles for 4 dimes. Wisconsin may be the second most disappointing team this season behind Clemson. They brought a lot of talent back from last year, but a key injury to their stud TE and inconsistency at the QB position left them needing to win 4/5 to end up in this game. 2 of these wins over Indiana and Cal Poly (3 missed PATs away from losing to a non division 1 school). And who can forget the embarrassing collapse against Michigan? Wisconsin's Production Offensively = P.J. Hill. While PJ HIll is a stud, they are incapable of moving the ball in the air. Sherer's 6 games after taking over boast a whopping 53% completion percentage and 5TD and 5 INTs. A performance like this will not put them in a position to contend with FSU. The Noles hold advantages in PPG both offensively and defensively. +11.9 against their opponents on the season vs a measily +3.5 for Wisconsin. Ponder is not a stud arm by any means, but he plays with a much more athletic group of guys and can get it done with his feet. Smith has shown he can be explosive both rushing and catching the ball out of the backfield. Expect Bowden to sell out against the run and force Wisco into long 3rd down situations. Then expect a FSU team that is third in the nation in sacks (36) to get to Sherer, and either bring him down or force him to make a bad decision. Florida State is a fast team. Their corners are athletic and their special teamers are fast. HUGE ADVANTAGE SEMINOLES here. This is a coach and a team with a chip on their shoulder following a loss to Kentucky last year with the entire team suspended for the cheating scandal. The fact remains the FSU did not have the season they wanted, but played an extrmely tough schedule. Strong wins vs VaTech and at Maryland (by 34). Tough losses to a very good GA Tech team (with an unbelivable option game.... already laid 5 dimes on GATECH) and BC.
Finally, let's keep in mind they are expecting a Record-Setting Attendence in Citrus Bowl stadium, which is in Orlando... 200 miles from FSU.
NOLES AND BOWDEN GET IT DONE.
FSU 37 UW 20
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First Bowl Season Post. 1-2 thus far, up .3 dimes. Losers in Troy and Fresno St. Winner in AZ. On a ten unit scale, taking the Seminoles for 4 dimes. Wisconsin may be the second most disappointing team this season behind Clemson. They brought a lot of talent back from last year, but a key injury to their stud TE and inconsistency at the QB position left them needing to win 4/5 to end up in this game. 2 of these wins over Indiana and Cal Poly (3 missed PATs away from losing to a non division 1 school). And who can forget the embarrassing collapse against Michigan? Wisconsin's Production Offensively = P.J. Hill. While PJ HIll is a stud, they are incapable of moving the ball in the air. Sherer's 6 games after taking over boast a whopping 53% completion percentage and 5TD and 5 INTs. A performance like this will not put them in a position to contend with FSU. The Noles hold advantages in PPG both offensively and defensively. +11.9 against their opponents on the season vs a measily +3.5 for Wisconsin. Ponder is not a stud arm by any means, but he plays with a much more athletic group of guys and can get it done with his feet. Smith has shown he can be explosive both rushing and catching the ball out of the backfield. Expect Bowden to sell out against the run and force Wisco into long 3rd down situations. Then expect a FSU team that is third in the nation in sacks (36) to get to Sherer, and either bring him down or force him to make a bad decision. Florida State is a fast team. Their corners are athletic and their special teamers are fast. HUGE ADVANTAGE SEMINOLES here. This is a coach and a team with a chip on their shoulder following a loss to Kentucky last year with the entire team suspended for the cheating scandal. The fact remains the FSU did not have the season they wanted, but played an extrmely tough schedule. Strong wins vs VaTech and at Maryland (by 34). Tough losses to a very good GA Tech team (with an unbelivable option game.... already laid 5 dimes on GATECH) and BC.
Finally, let's keep in mind they are expecting a Record-Setting Attendence in Citrus Bowl stadium, which is in Orlando... 200 miles from FSU.
I have been looking at this game for a while and am still unsure about this game. If Vegas really thought this was a mis-match they would have made FSU at least a full td fav. I'm not saying I disagree with you I just think that Wisconsin might be able to pound the ball enough to keep it within a FG. Either way Wisconsin was easily one of the most disappointing teams of the season.
Best of luck with your plan bud,
Merry Christmas
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I have been looking at this game for a while and am still unsure about this game. If Vegas really thought this was a mis-match they would have made FSU at least a full td fav. I'm not saying I disagree with you I just think that Wisconsin might be able to pound the ball enough to keep it within a FG. Either way Wisconsin was easily one of the most disappointing teams of the season.
Honestly I was leaning on Wisky in this one. Think they will be prepared well for the game, only thing that really scares me is the speed of the FSU defense. I know that score is way off though. Honestly don't think FSU is going to get anywhere near 37 points. I'm thinking FSU 24-21
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Honestly I was leaning on Wisky in this one. Think they will be prepared well for the game, only thing that really scares me is the speed of the FSU defense. I know that score is way off though. Honestly don't think FSU is going to get anywhere near 37 points. I'm thinking FSU 24-21
FSU is Young AND Fast AND Got Stronger and More Confident All Year . . Ive taken them a Few Times this Year and Always Started game Slow and then Turned it up in 2nd half.. Love the Play!! FSU!!
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FSU is Young AND Fast AND Got Stronger and More Confident All Year . . Ive taken them a Few Times this Year and Always Started game Slow and then Turned it up in 2nd half.. Love the Play!! FSU!!
Sorry I cant help you on this one. Couldnt get a read at all on ND/Hawaii. The following remains to be seen: Is ND treating this as a vacation or a chance to prove themselves? Can Charlie Weiss win a big game at ND? Can Jimmy Clausen stop throwing teh ball up for grabs? Was Hawaii's game vs Cincinnati a preview of what they are capable of, or was Cinci laying down knowing they already had a BCS berth locked up?
I think a better play would be to either teaser on FSU+.5 and ND +4. I am hitting FSU relatively hard with the 4 dimes, but could see doing a two game par on FSU and the over, or a two-team teaser on FSU +.5 and Over 46.
GL!
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Quote Originally Posted by FadeOnly:
I'm with you bud...
FSU gets in done easy!
What do you think of the parlay?
FSU -5.5 & ND -2
4 units to win 10
Merry X-mas...
Sorry I cant help you on this one. Couldnt get a read at all on ND/Hawaii. The following remains to be seen: Is ND treating this as a vacation or a chance to prove themselves? Can Charlie Weiss win a big game at ND? Can Jimmy Clausen stop throwing teh ball up for grabs? Was Hawaii's game vs Cincinnati a preview of what they are capable of, or was Cinci laying down knowing they already had a BCS berth locked up?
I think a better play would be to either teaser on FSU+.5 and ND +4. I am hitting FSU relatively hard with the 4 dimes, but could see doing a two game par on FSU and the over, or a two-team teaser on FSU +.5 and Over 46.
I have been looking at this game for a while and am still unsure about this game. If Vegas really thought this was a mis-match they would have made FSU at least a full td fav. I'm not saying I disagree with you I just think that Wisconsin might be able to pound the ball enough to keep it within a FG. Either way Wisconsin was easily one of the most disappointing teams of the season.
Best of luck with your plan bud,
Merry Christmas
I think Vegas played the trends on this one in that Wisconsin finished strong (in terms of win/loss) and havent had under an 8 win season in quite some time. I have to believe they consider this a home game for FSU meaning they believe FSU is only 2.5 pnts better than Wisco on a neutral field. If you believe that is the case, then your Wisco bet is a good one. However, I think FSU is flat out a quicker, more athletic, has a MUCH BETTER defense, and has a coach that has been working them overtime to make sure they will not lose another bowl game. Wisconsin has a lot against them here with the travel and vacation in Florida during the holiday season. In no way do I see them coming out fast in this game. They do not have the offense to play from behind. They failed to move th ball enough to put the game away against Michigan. I was in Madison for Wisco/OSU, a game in which Wisco played the best I saw them all season. However, they really had 2 successful drives the entire game, and the majority of it was set up through the passing game. Sherer was not taking the snaps in that game. The run game only was set up on a couple occasions after Ohio State began to respect the passing game. OSU did not get to the quartback nearly as much as FSU did this season (36 sacks to 17) and thus the Badgers were able to complete a few passes. I just don't see Wisco coming out with enough speed and energy to start the game... and am positive they are incapable of coming from behind.
Looking forward to this game, as I grew up watching and going to school in the Big Ten (I-L-L).. and wishing I was watchinig any other real conference.
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Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Tressel:
I have been looking at this game for a while and am still unsure about this game. If Vegas really thought this was a mis-match they would have made FSU at least a full td fav. I'm not saying I disagree with you I just think that Wisconsin might be able to pound the ball enough to keep it within a FG. Either way Wisconsin was easily one of the most disappointing teams of the season.
Best of luck with your plan bud,
Merry Christmas
I think Vegas played the trends on this one in that Wisconsin finished strong (in terms of win/loss) and havent had under an 8 win season in quite some time. I have to believe they consider this a home game for FSU meaning they believe FSU is only 2.5 pnts better than Wisco on a neutral field. If you believe that is the case, then your Wisco bet is a good one. However, I think FSU is flat out a quicker, more athletic, has a MUCH BETTER defense, and has a coach that has been working them overtime to make sure they will not lose another bowl game. Wisconsin has a lot against them here with the travel and vacation in Florida during the holiday season. In no way do I see them coming out fast in this game. They do not have the offense to play from behind. They failed to move th ball enough to put the game away against Michigan. I was in Madison for Wisco/OSU, a game in which Wisco played the best I saw them all season. However, they really had 2 successful drives the entire game, and the majority of it was set up through the passing game. Sherer was not taking the snaps in that game. The run game only was set up on a couple occasions after Ohio State began to respect the passing game. OSU did not get to the quartback nearly as much as FSU did this season (36 sacks to 17) and thus the Badgers were able to complete a few passes. I just don't see Wisco coming out with enough speed and energy to start the game... and am positive they are incapable of coming from behind.
Looking forward to this game, as I grew up watching and going to school in the Big Ten (I-L-L).. and wishing I was watchinig any other real conference.
Def like FSU in this one!! I would think at a complete neutral site FSU would win by a TD in this one... Being basically a home game for FSU makes this one a little easier.Final FSU 31 Wisc 20
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Def like FSU in this one!! I would think at a complete neutral site FSU would win by a TD in this one... Being basically a home game for FSU makes this one a little easier.Final FSU 31 Wisc 20
Thanks for the contribution. I dont care if you are going to disagree... I stongly encourage people on the other side of any of my games to post their reasoning. What you wrote is dumb and offers nothing.
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Quote Originally Posted by Streak69:
your smokin crackola
Thanks for the contribution. I dont care if you are going to disagree... I stongly encourage people on the other side of any of my games to post their reasoning. What you wrote is dumb and offers nothing.
Def like FSU in this one!! I would think at a complete neutral site FSU would win by a TD in this one... Being basically a home game for FSU makes this one a little easier.Final FSU 31 Wisc 20
I see at least one defensive or special teams TD in this game for FSU.... theyre soo much faster and more athletic than Wisco. I think the over is a great play here. I have a 1.5 'unit' parlay on FSU and the over. I see FSU scoring 4TDs in this one. Badgers just plain cant keep up.
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Quote Originally Posted by yankees2k6:
Def like FSU in this one!! I would think at a complete neutral site FSU would win by a TD in this one... Being basically a home game for FSU makes this one a little easier.Final FSU 31 Wisc 20
I see at least one defensive or special teams TD in this game for FSU.... theyre soo much faster and more athletic than Wisco. I think the over is a great play here. I have a 1.5 'unit' parlay on FSU and the over. I see FSU scoring 4TDs in this one. Badgers just plain cant keep up.
Is anyone concerned that the public is on FSU big! over 85%
I would be concerned if this percentage didnt result in line movement, but it's shifted a full point or more. Big conference alums and big money homers are usually able to hold Big Ten and SEC lines pretty steady. Im surprised the LSU faithful and alums weren't able to keep that line in the 4.5-5 range.
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Quote Originally Posted by champ7724:
Is anyone concerned that the public is on FSU big! over 85%
I would be concerned if this percentage didnt result in line movement, but it's shifted a full point or more. Big conference alums and big money homers are usually able to hold Big Ten and SEC lines pretty steady. Im surprised the LSU faithful and alums weren't able to keep that line in the 4.5-5 range.
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