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    If Clemson beats smu does smu still get in?

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    Dickey227
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2024 - 10:29 PM ET #1

    Or does the committee continue to kiss the ring of bama like they have done so many times in past 

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    Or does the committee continue to kiss the ring of bama like they have done so many times in past 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2024 - 10:56 PM ET #2

    Who knows at this point. CFP rankings have them at 8. You would think the fact that they didn't end up beating a team all year who ended up on the final CFP top 25 rankings, they shouldn't be in. Problem is then we will be stuck with Bama who is undeserving. Committee got the rankings wrong.

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    Who knows at this point. CFP rankings have them at 8. You would think the fact that they didn't end up beating a team all year who ended up on the final CFP top 25 rankings, they shouldn't be in. Problem is then we will be stuck with Bama who is undeserving. Committee got the rankings wrong.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2024 - 12:18 AM ET #3

    And Bama has the easiest path to NCconfusedquiet.........ND and Boise State to reach the semi-finals if I'm not mistaken........Tell me I'm wrongan_cry

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    And Bama has the easiest path to NCconfusedquiet.........ND and Boise State to reach the semi-finals if I'm not mistaken........Tell me I'm wrongan_cry

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2024 - 1:24 AM ET #4

    This is pretty easy. Bama, on a neutral field, would probably be -9 vs SMU (my line, not Vegas's).....If SMU has 2 losses they have no real argument other than the better record.....which is just something lazy people will look at.....SMU should/coulda easily lost to Nevada and Duke....If this was just 4 teams it wouldn't matter.....now that it's 12, of course there's gonna be drama......

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    This is pretty easy. Bama, on a neutral field, would probably be -9 vs SMU (my line, not Vegas's).....If SMU has 2 losses they have no real argument other than the better record.....which is just something lazy people will look at.....SMU should/coulda easily lost to Nevada and Duke....If this was just 4 teams it wouldn't matter.....now that it's 12, of course there's gonna be drama......

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2024 - 1:56 AM ET #5

    SMU donors get to legally pay for players now. No coincidence otherwise what recruit is going to SMU? The Methodist ones? Come on it's a medium sized private Texas school. Money talks the rest walks. Eric Dickerson is driving a Pontiac Trans Am and he commits! Financed under his grandmother's name. Slick an_roll_laugh

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    SMU donors get to legally pay for players now. No coincidence otherwise what recruit is going to SMU? The Methodist ones? Come on it's a medium sized private Texas school. Money talks the rest walks. Eric Dickerson is driving a Pontiac Trans Am and he commits! Financed under his grandmother's name. Slick an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2024 - 2:15 AM ET #6

    Dude no offense but if you think SMU is a better football team than Alabama you’re just part of the whole reason we needed 12 teams. You must have forgotten how the SEC walked all over the 4 team playoff year after year w a couple exceptions. There are 8 or 9 teams in the SEC better than SMU. Maybe more? What’s the spread on SMU vs Florida or Oklahoma or fucking Vanderbilt or Auburn.

     

    is SMU favored on any of those teams fields? They all came in 10th or worse in the SEC. SMU plays an SEC schedule and what’s their record? They are just gonna run through it right?!

     

    the ACC sucks it’s a shame them and the big12 are considered to be major conferences because they aren’t and there are 12 teams across the big ten and SEC that would smoke them all.

     

     

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    Dude no offense but if you think SMU is a better football team than Alabama you’re just part of the whole reason we needed 12 teams. You must have forgotten how the SEC walked all over the 4 team playoff year after year w a couple exceptions. There are 8 or 9 teams in the SEC better than SMU. Maybe more? What’s the spread on SMU vs Florida or Oklahoma or fucking Vanderbilt or Auburn.

     

    is SMU favored on any of those teams fields? They all came in 10th or worse in the SEC. SMU plays an SEC schedule and what’s their record? They are just gonna run through it right?!

     

    the ACC sucks it’s a shame them and the big12 are considered to be major conferences because they aren’t and there are 12 teams across the big ten and SEC that would smoke them all.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2024 - 7:38 AM ET #7

    I don’t think smu is better I’m just tired of bama always getting the benefit of the doubt yr after yr. Yes head to head bama beat sc, but sc is the better team now. Sc missed a 2 pt conversion w under a min left that would have tied the game in a game  a road game for a young sc team, that was just building chemistry. Take the head to head out of sc vs bama and sc resume is a lot better. I know head to head matters but a freshman qb on road early in season, game that came down to 2 pt Conversion should matter. I’m just trying to hope for away bama doesn’t get in and the committee won’t put sc over them so seeing opinions on smu. 

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    I don’t think smu is better I’m just tired of bama always getting the benefit of the doubt yr after yr. Yes head to head bama beat sc, but sc is the better team now. Sc missed a 2 pt conversion w under a min left that would have tied the game in a game  a road game for a young sc team, that was just building chemistry. Take the head to head out of sc vs bama and sc resume is a lot better. I know head to head matters but a freshman qb on road early in season, game that came down to 2 pt Conversion should matter. I’m just trying to hope for away bama doesn’t get in and the committee won’t put sc over them so seeing opinions on smu. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2024 - 8:26 AM ET #8

    Is Bama better than SMU - yes.

    Is Bama gonna make the playoffs if SMU loses - no.

    They are not going to penalize a team for making it to the conference championship. 

    if SMU was sitting there with 2 loses and a loss in the championship would be there 3rd it’s a different discussion. 

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    Is Bama better than SMU - yes.

    Is Bama gonna make the playoffs if SMU loses - no.

    They are not going to penalize a team for making it to the conference championship. 

    if SMU was sitting there with 2 loses and a loss in the championship would be there 3rd it’s a different discussion. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2024 - 10:23 AM ET #9

    The committee will screw someone if they have to just to get Bama in. That's what they do year in year out.bigsmile

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    The committee will screw someone if they have to just to get Bama in. That's what they do year in year out.bigsmile

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2024 - 10:42 AM ET #10

    It isn't about whether people think Bama is better then SMU it is about giving those teams the chance to show if they are or how far they have to go to get there. Just like college basketball some of those small conference teams are not better than the middle of the big conferences but they are there to give them a chance and have variety. Those who would get looked over at the end of the 12 team playoff just like the last few out in college basketball have little to complain about. 

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    It isn't about whether people think Bama is better then SMU it is about giving those teams the chance to show if they are or how far they have to go to get there. Just like college basketball some of those small conference teams are not better than the middle of the big conferences but they are there to give them a chance and have variety. Those who would get looked over at the end of the 12 team playoff just like the last few out in college basketball have little to complain about. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2024 - 11:54 AM ET #11

    NO

    And although they might 'deserve it' - they shouldn't be in.

    Bama, S Caro, Ole Miss and maybe a few more - kick their azz. Fine year but caught their few decent opponents at a great time. TCU, Louisville beat them now probably.

    It is better to be feared - than to be loved.
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    NO

    And although they might 'deserve it' - they shouldn't be in.

    Bama, S Caro, Ole Miss and maybe a few more - kick their azz. Fine year but caught their few decent opponents at a great time. TCU, Louisville beat them now probably.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2024 - 1:34 PM ET #12

    @Dickey227

     Just to be on the safe side they better not lose to Clemson. an_roll_laugh

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     Just to be on the safe side they better not lose to Clemson. an_roll_laugh

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2024 - 2:03 PM ET #13

    The Committee dude was quoted last night saying " no team who is the loser of a championship game will be knocked out by a lower seed if their season is over. They don't want to penalize any team for playing the extra game.

     

    So SMU is ranked higher 8th than Bama 11th so according to how he answered the question if SMU loses they are still in and Bama is out. 

     

    We shall see! Exciting times. an_2drinks

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    The Committee dude was quoted last night saying " no team who is the loser of a championship game will be knocked out by a lower seed if their season is over. They don't want to penalize any team for playing the extra game.

     

    So SMU is ranked higher 8th than Bama 11th so according to how he answered the question if SMU loses they are still in and Bama is out. 

     

    We shall see! Exciting times. an_2drinks

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2024 - 3:04 PM ET #14

    smu is in, win or lose. bid stealer game.peace_5peace

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    smu is in, win or lose. bid stealer game.peace_5peace

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2024 - 4:50 PM ET #15

    smu loses they are out 

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    smu loses they are out 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2024 - 4:52 PM ET #16

    @oldshakey

     betpeace_5peace

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     betpeace_5peace

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2024 - 5:43 PM ET #17

    @Eddy_Winslow

     What's the RULE man?

    When in doubt - ax yourself "which way makes us the most MONEY?" Right/wrong/ fairness has nothing to do with it - especially now.

    It is better to be feared - than to be loved.
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     What's the RULE man?

    When in doubt - ax yourself "which way makes us the most MONEY?" Right/wrong/ fairness has nothing to do with it - especially now.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2024 - 5:51 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by Eddy_Winslow:

    smu is in, win or lose. bid stealer game.
    I think you're right Hoss peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddy_Winslow:

    smu is in, win or lose. bid stealer game.
    I think you're right Hoss peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2024 - 6:41 PM ET #19

    @bookieassassin

     tough to argue that, hope youre good.peace_5peace

     

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    @bookieassassin

     tough to argue that, hope youre good.peace_5peace

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:

    @Eddy_Winslow  What's the RULE man? When in doubt - ax yourself "which way makes us the most MONEY?" Right/wrong/ fairness has nothing to do with it - especially now.
    I agree with the rule BUT now that there are 12 teams I don't think that Bama's absence would be that substantial jmo peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:

    @Eddy_Winslow  What's the RULE man? When in doubt - ax yourself "which way makes us the most MONEY?" Right/wrong/ fairness has nothing to do with it - especially now.
    I agree with the rule BUT now that there are 12 teams I don't think that Bama's absence would be that substantial jmo peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 5, 2024 - 1:37 PM ET #21

    Here's what I've got, post championship games...

    1. Ore

    2. Tex

    3. Cleman_eek2

    4. Zona st

    5. ND

    6. Ohio st

    7. Tennessee 

    8. Penn st

    9. Georgia 

    10. Indiana 

    11. SMU

    12. UNLV

     

    round 1 - unlv@nd, smu@ohio st, ind@tenn, Geo@penn st.

     

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    Here's what I've got, post championship games...

    1. Ore

    2. Tex

    3. Cleman_eek2

    4. Zona st

    5. ND

    6. Ohio st

    7. Tennessee 

    8. Penn st

    9. Georgia 

    10. Indiana 

    11. SMU

    12. UNLV

     

    round 1 - unlv@nd, smu@ohio st, ind@tenn, Geo@penn st.

     

    peace_5peace

     
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    Is the idea that it's the 12 best teams and protection for each P5 conference and then 1 G5?

     

    On that basis, then 3-loss Bama deserves to go

    I am a huge Indiana fan (local connection to rourke) but Bama would be big favourites vs. Hoosiers

    Just average Sagarin basic rating and recent rating and Bama is probably top 6... EDIT: Bama is #5 and #6

     

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    Is the idea that it's the 12 best teams and protection for each P5 conference and then 1 G5?

     

    On that basis, then 3-loss Bama deserves to go

    I am a huge Indiana fan (local connection to rourke) but Bama would be big favourites vs. Hoosiers

    Just average Sagarin basic rating and recent rating and Bama is probably top 6... EDIT: Bama is #5 and #6

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimrockford22:

    Is the idea that it's the 12 best teams and protection for each P5 conference and then 1 G5?   On that basis, then 3-loss Bama deserves to go I am a huge Indiana fan (local connection to rourke) but Bama would be big favourites vs. Hoosiers Just average Sagarin basic rating and recent rating and Bama is probably top 6... EDIT: Bama is #5 and #6
    I'm not one to argue with Sargarin but that 3rd loss to 6-6 Oaklahoma by 35 - 3 score can not be ignored. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimrockford22:

    Is the idea that it's the 12 best teams and protection for each P5 conference and then 1 G5?   On that basis, then 3-loss Bama deserves to go I am a huge Indiana fan (local connection to rourke) but Bama would be big favourites vs. Hoosiers Just average Sagarin basic rating and recent rating and Bama is probably top 6... EDIT: Bama is #5 and #6
    I'm not one to argue with Sargarin but that 3rd loss to 6-6 Oaklahoma by 35 - 3 score can not be ignored. 

     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2024 - 9:15 AM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by Eddy_Winslow:

    Here's what I've got, post championship games... 1. Ore 2. Tex 3. Clem 4. Zona st 5. ND 6. Ohio st 7. Tennessee  8. Penn st 9. Georgia  10. Indiana  11. SMU 12. UNLV   round 1 - unlv@nd, smu@ohio st, ind@tenn, Geo@penn st.
    if smu loses they would likely be replaced by Alabama, the loss proves smu can't hang with the big boys. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddy_Winslow:

    Here's what I've got, post championship games... 1. Ore 2. Tex 3. Clem 4. Zona st 5. ND 6. Ohio st 7. Tennessee  8. Penn st 9. Georgia  10. Indiana  11. SMU 12. UNLV   round 1 - unlv@nd, smu@ohio st, ind@tenn, Geo@penn st.
    if smu loses they would likely be replaced by Alabama, the loss proves smu can't hang with the big boys. 

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