TopHog,
I apologize if I'm being really rude to you and everything. But honestly. Look at what I said about having children.
Do you really want your kid to be rapped? Anybody who has a child should be up in arms about this. Seriously it is almost as bad as murdering someone. These are kids against a grown man. They can't fight for themselves. They need to be protected and JoPa knowing what he did, did not do that. That in itself fires me up.
TopHog,
I apologize if I'm being really rude to you and everything. But honestly. Look at what I said about having children.
Do you really want your kid to be rapped? Anybody who has a child should be up in arms about this. Seriously it is almost as bad as murdering someone. These are kids against a grown man. They can't fight for themselves. They need to be protected and JoPa knowing what he did, did not do that. That in itself fires me up.
yeah, paterno ended up being a real DUMB FUCK. You'd figure a man 84 yrs. old would have some grasp of what is right and what is wrong in this world. How to act in certain situations. When to hold them, when to fold them.
Joey was just a egomaniacial, selfish loser it turns out in the end.
yeah, paterno ended up being a real DUMB FUCK. You'd figure a man 84 yrs. old would have some grasp of what is right and what is wrong in this world. How to act in certain situations. When to hold them, when to fold them.
Joey was just a egomaniacial, selfish loser it turns out in the end.
TopHog,
I apologize if I'm being really rude to you and everything. But honestly. Look at what I said about having children.
Do you really want your kid to be rapped? Anybody who has a child should be up in arms about this. Seriously it is almost as bad as murdering someone. These are kids against a grown man. They can't fight for themselves. They need to be protected and JoPa knowing what he did, did not do that. That in itself fires me up.
TopHog,
I apologize if I'm being really rude to you and everything. But honestly. Look at what I said about having children.
Do you really want your kid to be rapped? Anybody who has a child should be up in arms about this. Seriously it is almost as bad as murdering someone. These are kids against a grown man. They can't fight for themselves. They need to be protected and JoPa knowing what he did, did not do that. That in itself fires me up.
If you would have said it that way I would have not ragged on you as much.
But we can pass judgement on Sandusky. He is the only reason for any of this starting. Bastard was rapping the little boys. How the fuck do you do that? This subject gets me so fired up!
No kid deserves to have there childhood taking from them and it was. Feel so bad fo the victoms and there families in this more then anybody.
So Sad
If you would have said it that way I would have not ragged on you as much.
But we can pass judgement on Sandusky. He is the only reason for any of this starting. Bastard was rapping the little boys. How the fuck do you do that? This subject gets me so fired up!
No kid deserves to have there childhood taking from them and it was. Feel so bad fo the victoms and there families in this more then anybody.
So Sad
TopHog-
Do you really believe Joe wanted to get it out and the AD said no? That is crazy- It is the other way around- The AD probably wanted to get it out and Joe told him to eat shit- Joe was above the law at Penn St. Sandusky was a long time friend- He helped cover it up- I can almost promise when all is said and done that this thing is on a much bigger scale than has been reported.
I AGREE WITH YOU 100%......JoePa in the situation he was in was a god like figure, he was the proverbial tail that wagged the dog, if he had actually wanted to come out and say something NO ONE would have stopped him and his legend and legacy would have trebled if he HAD been fired for outting this situation.....BUT quite to the contrary he hushed it up, maybe not on the same level as the AD, et al.......but as the legend he was and the legacy that he had built he is as much a cohort as the others and tarnishes NAY RUINS what should have been a great career an legacy
TopHog-
Do you really believe Joe wanted to get it out and the AD said no? That is crazy- It is the other way around- The AD probably wanted to get it out and Joe told him to eat shit- Joe was above the law at Penn St. Sandusky was a long time friend- He helped cover it up- I can almost promise when all is said and done that this thing is on a much bigger scale than has been reported.
I AGREE WITH YOU 100%......JoePa in the situation he was in was a god like figure, he was the proverbial tail that wagged the dog, if he had actually wanted to come out and say something NO ONE would have stopped him and his legend and legacy would have trebled if he HAD been fired for outting this situation.....BUT quite to the contrary he hushed it up, maybe not on the same level as the AD, et al.......but as the legend he was and the legacy that he had built he is as much a cohort as the others and tarnishes NAY RUINS what should have been a great career an legacy
Tophog-
You are right- as of now nobody knows exactly what happend- But Joe admitted today he should have done more- this means to me that he knew that Sandusky was a pedophile- I can forgive him for not doing anything from 1998 to 2002. But after the shower incident in 2002 he should have gotten the proper people involved(child protection, police) If people think he wasn't trying to protect his legacy then they are dead wrong. A buddy on mine who graduated high school with worked at Penn St. for several years from 1996-1999. He was an information director i believe. He told me Joe Paterno while seemingly a good guy was also known to get his way and had the attitude that he was above anyone on campus. He got what he wanted and everyone backed down from him. I can see how after 6 decades of this the guy felt he could cover this up to help his friend. Let's not forget that this scumbag Sandusky was his friend and they still associated with each other up till very recently.
Tophog-
You are right- as of now nobody knows exactly what happend- But Joe admitted today he should have done more- this means to me that he knew that Sandusky was a pedophile- I can forgive him for not doing anything from 1998 to 2002. But after the shower incident in 2002 he should have gotten the proper people involved(child protection, police) If people think he wasn't trying to protect his legacy then they are dead wrong. A buddy on mine who graduated high school with worked at Penn St. for several years from 1996-1999. He was an information director i believe. He told me Joe Paterno while seemingly a good guy was also known to get his way and had the attitude that he was above anyone on campus. He got what he wanted and everyone backed down from him. I can see how after 6 decades of this the guy felt he could cover this up to help his friend. Let's not forget that this scumbag Sandusky was his friend and they still associated with each other up till very recently.
I agree with you 100% with not casting judgement.....but ask yourself this.........Do you think he would have acted differently had that boy been hid GRANDSON??......Do you think he would have said that "in hindsight" he would have acted differently?
I agree with you 100% with not casting judgement.....but ask yourself this.........Do you think he would have acted differently had that boy been hid GRANDSON??......Do you think he would have said that "in hindsight" he would have acted differently?
qbangambler
You also have to realize that the only thing he had to do to hush it up was be quiet about it. The others would do most of the covering up for him. He was the man. He had the power as well as respect. But from what i am told they also feared him as well.
qbangambler
You also have to realize that the only thing he had to do to hush it up was be quiet about it. The others would do most of the covering up for him. He was the man. He had the power as well as respect. But from what i am told they also feared him as well.
I agree with you 100% with not casting judgement.....but ask yourself this.........Do you think he would have acted differently had that boy been hid GRANDSON??......Do you think he would have said that "in hindsight" he would have acted differently?
It's amazing how things change when everything hits home. In virtually any aspect of life. Once you are involved all of a sudden you become morally correct. He should have looked at it that way the whole time. I wonder if his grandchildren were allowed to be left alone this guy. I guarantee they weren't!
I agree with you 100% with not casting judgement.....but ask yourself this.........Do you think he would have acted differently had that boy been hid GRANDSON??......Do you think he would have said that "in hindsight" he would have acted differently?
It's amazing how things change when everything hits home. In virtually any aspect of life. Once you are involved all of a sudden you become morally correct. He should have looked at it that way the whole time. I wonder if his grandchildren were allowed to be left alone this guy. I guarantee they weren't!
It's amazing how things change when everything hits home. In virtually any aspect of life. Once you are involved all of a sudden you become morally correct. He should have looked at it that way the whole time. I wonder if his grandchildren were allowed to be left alone this guy. I guarantee they weren't!
MY POINT EXACTLY KUDDISH.......AND WHAT CHUTZPAH HE HAS TO THINK HE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO WALK AWAY IN HIS OWN TERMS......THINK ABOUT IT....HE WAS STEPPING DOWN AFTER THE SEASON BECAUSE THE PROVERBIAL SHIT HIT THE FAN.....OTHERWISE HE WOULD HAVE GONE ON COACHING AS IF NOTHING HAD HAPPENED........COME TO THINK OF IT, IF IT HADN'T BLOWN UP IN HIS FACE IT MAKES YOU WONDER IF THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN ANY HINSIGHT FOR HIM TO SAY HE SHOULD HAVE DONE MORE..........SORTA THING THAT MAKES U SAY HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
It's amazing how things change when everything hits home. In virtually any aspect of life. Once you are involved all of a sudden you become morally correct. He should have looked at it that way the whole time. I wonder if his grandchildren were allowed to be left alone this guy. I guarantee they weren't!
MY POINT EXACTLY KUDDISH.......AND WHAT CHUTZPAH HE HAS TO THINK HE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO WALK AWAY IN HIS OWN TERMS......THINK ABOUT IT....HE WAS STEPPING DOWN AFTER THE SEASON BECAUSE THE PROVERBIAL SHIT HIT THE FAN.....OTHERWISE HE WOULD HAVE GONE ON COACHING AS IF NOTHING HAD HAPPENED........COME TO THINK OF IT, IF IT HADN'T BLOWN UP IN HIS FACE IT MAKES YOU WONDER IF THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN ANY HINSIGHT FOR HIM TO SAY HE SHOULD HAVE DONE MORE..........SORTA THING THAT MAKES U SAY HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
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