KANSAS STATE VS. WEST VIRGINIA

Quote Originally Posted by KANSASSTATECAT:

Ya, treblecyde...I hear you.  Iowa State doesn't get that much respect.  Although they did crack the top 25 after taking a loss.  I really like Iowa State against Oke State, as far as covering the spread tomorrow.  I wouldn't be surprised to see Iowa State surprise some people with a straight up win.  Frankly, that game scared the shit out of me when K State had to travel to their house.  Good luck buddy!

Quote Originally Posted by TheTruthPolice:

Where did you get those shorts? WVU is clearly the play here.  You think there are hostile places to play in the Big XII?  The West Virginia inbreds will be all moonshined up for your boys.  West Virginia manages KSU's run game, gets enough stops, and scores at will.  You're going to lose your ass, but from the looks of your picture, you've got plenty to lose.  Good luck with the rest of your picks.

Quote Originally Posted by KANSASSTATECAT:

 Excellent insight...

Quote Originally Posted by apeterson8809:

Quote Originally Posted by TrebIecyde:

I was all over KSU the second the line came out. Why is Iowa State getting no respect? Their offense is below average but their defense is one of the best in the Big XII. Paul Rhoads knows defense.

Quote Originally Posted by ApocalypseLater:





DING DING DING DING DING!!!!!


pay the fuck attention people... all of you talking about a wounded dog... this is the REAL psychological factor that you should be looking at in this game...


WV came into last week thinking legitimately that they could be playing in the NC... losing did not FIRE THEM UP... it DEFLATED THEM... i fucking promise you... i've seen this 1000 times in college football... these are not pro athletes that just bounce right back after a loss...

these kids just had their dreams crushed!  and now they face a team that still has that dream alive and well...


go back over the past 10 years, and look at the results of teams playing the week after they just lost their shot at a National Championship game... i can tell you right now, it is IMPRESSIVE... and not in a good way...



WV is going to be fired up???  really?  this is what you've learned from watching sports?  is that a team in W Virginia's situation will be "fired up"?


NO!

Quote Originally Posted by MrBogey:

can you provide the games that you are talking about?

Quote Originally Posted by ApocalypseLater:




Baylor and their 63 points suggests otherwise... in theory, yes, defense will play better at home... but to suggest THIS defense is significantly different at home, to the point that they can be expected to not have 45+ points put up on them just because it's a home game... i disagree...

also disagree that Kansas St will "at no point stop W Virginia"...

Big 12 teams are not over-whelmed by what W Virginia brings to the table, and preparing for it is a fairly routine task for Bill Snyder... they see powerful offense every week...

the team that is in over their heads is W Virginia... they've come from the offensively inept Big East (where they routinely surrendered 30 or 40 points to teams like Pittsburgh or South Florida)... to the Big 12... where those teams frequently have ZERO players who would be starters on most teams in the Big 12...


on another thread people talked about squares being too late to see value... i couldn't disagree more strongly with respect to this game... THIS IS THE YEAR to get as much value as you can betting against W Virginia as they go through the Big 12... this is no time to jump off of the fade wagon...

if you think W Virginia is lighting up Snyder's defense, i think you are fooling yourself... i've seen this W Virginia offense struggle against far worse defenses than this one... they can frequently become too predictable, and rely on Geno or Austin's individual play-making ability... whereas Kansas St is a well-oiled, fundamentally disciplined, offensive machine...


i think you'll get your over bet... but it's Kansas St who is gonna get you there...

Quote Originally Posted by CurtisBlow304:



Hope you're here to eat your words after the game. WVU struggled last week because Texas Tech had a great game plan, WVU was flat off a big road win, & the wind really fucked up Geno's passing game. The wind was 30 MPH. Geno couldn't adjust. He's thrown dime deep balls all year and wasn't even close at Texas Tech. Don't expect the same thing in Morgantown. This team is fired up & pissed off and ready to bounce back. That's why Vegas has them as the favorite. Sucker money is on Texas Tech. WVU scores 40+. Take the over. Geno bounces back & WVU wins 52-46.

Quote Originally Posted by ApocalypseLater:





WV might score a lot of points... but that doesn't mean much if Kansas St scores more... i think your score looks pretty close... just have the wrong team winning... K St is the team that will get to 50 in this game... WV probably in the low 40's... your over bet is a good way to go...

as for the "wind" and other excuses for last week's loss... i can only shake my head... that was an ass-whooping, and an embarrassing one... if you can't win cuz it's windy... college football ain't your game...

i'm a big fan of Geno Smith... i can assure you, even HE isn't using the wind as an excuse for last week... he is a legit QB, and will be a legit pro QB... but he's on a team that has exactly 2 football players on it... think about that!

Quote Originally Posted by rydahJ05:

This really is a super tuff game to call! BOL KSC

Quote Originally Posted by KANSASSTATECAT:

Good Luck everyone!  Off to Morgantown...