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Game was lost for NW backers when A&M did not get a short 1st down..
 
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Quote Originally Posted by tmoney618:

I agree with Boom you dont kick it since 3 pts wouldn't do you any good. They are up by 8 and not 7. If you can pin them deep inside 20 with no timeouts do so. You don't want a easy return TD and then recover onside kick in place to have field position to kick FG.

Extending your lead from 8 to 11 wouldn't do you any good? So if you went for it and didn't get the 4th down conversion, last time I checked, a team down 8 has to score a TD and due to that TD gets a chance at a 2 PT conversion. This can happen in 1 series.

If you extend to 11, the opposition can score a TD, but there is no 5 PT conversion try, just an onside kick prayer.

C'mon Man!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:



Ever heard of a 2 point conversion?
Thorpe thats not the fucking point hes making here

The point is more lost than could be gained in that situation heres why..................


1) he could miss it. no big deal really

2) it could be blocked and returned for a score

3) whether you make the first down or not... you still have your opponent pined to have to travel the entire length of the field.  with what???? less than 30 seconds...and NO FUCKING TIMEOUTS



 
 
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I agree with Boom you dont kick it since 3 pts wouldn't do you any good. They are up by 8 and not 7. If you can pin them deep inside 20 with no timeouts do so. You don't want a easy return TD and then recover onside kick in place to have field position to kick FG.

 

Haahahahahahahahahaha  this is the one guy that agrees with you

 
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Quote Originally Posted by tmoney618:

I agree with Boom you dont kick it since 3 pts wouldn't do you any good. They are up by 8 and not 7. If you can pin them deep inside 20 with no timeouts do so. You don't want a easy return TD and then recover onside kick in place to have field position to kick FG.


one of the dumbest post i ever seen on covers by far
 
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Boom, you have no argument here..Sorry buddy..
 
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nw had no business covering u should be thankful u even had a chance bro
 
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Not sure I agree Boom. They are just as likely to fumble running for the 1st down on 4th as they are getting the fg attempt blocked and returned for a score.

Just my opinion. I understand what you are talking about though. When I seen the clock winding down I was wondering if they would go or kick the fg, figured it was a 50-50 shot.
 
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No timeouts, but the clock stops every 1st down.. This gives them atleast a chance for a hail mary and a conversion to tie. Yet you go up 11 with a chip shot and there is zero chance .. Get a grip
 
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waaaa waaaa waaaa.



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Every coach would kick that ball. You have the best kicker in the country. You make it a two possession game. NW has shredded your defense in the second half so why give them the opportunity to go down and score?? Yes its 95 yards but with the clock stopping on first downs you could easily go 50 yards plus in 3 plays and still have an opportunity or two to thrown one in the endzone. Get over it you lost and shouldn't of even been that close
 
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I give up


Either you get it........or you dont


 
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 I can't believe I lost on this game and am trying to explain to someone that the call I lost on was a good call
 
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I give up


Either you get it........or you dont


give up


Either you get it........or you dont

Says the whiner 100% wrong

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Boom_Boom:

Thorpe thats not the fucking point hes making here

The point is more lost than could be gained in that situation heres why..................


1) he could miss it. no big deal really

2) it could be blocked and returned for a score

3) whether you make the first down or not... you still have your opponent pined to have to travel the entire length of the field.  with what???? less than 30 seconds...and NO FUCKING TIMEOUTS



 


4th and 6 and you want them to go for it.

I'd argue that there's the same chance of a strip, fumble return for a TD on their 4th down attempt as there is a FG block return for TD.

The play I'm pissed about as a NU backer is A&M's play call on 3rd and 2. RUN IT UP THE GUT and then you have an argument to go for it on 4th and short...but once they lost 4 yards on 3rd and 2, you HAVE to kick the FG and make it a 2-possession game.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by dixonbets:

A total of       this bowl season for me!

ND
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Tulsa
Iowa
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Way to many

same here except ND   THIS WEEKEND BLOWS

 
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So all of you saying they should have kicked, what would you have said if it WAS blocked?!?!?! 

Would you still be defending the 'good' decision?

 
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You subscribe to the George Costanza school of thought...

"It's not a lie, if you believe it."

 
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Quote Originally Posted by 416bet:

So all of you saying they should have kicked, what would you have said if it WAS blocked?!?!?! 

Would you still be defending the 'good' decision?


Yes, 100 out 100 times.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Boom_Boom:

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I give up


Either you get it........or you dont




answer this question.

why would you give a team the ball with 30 seconds left in a 1 possession game?

N.W. just scored 2 TD's in the 4th. you want a coach to give them the ball???

kicking the field goal ended any chance for N.W.
thats why it was the right call.
 
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YES you idiot, it was a 30 yarder not a fifty
 
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Put down the bottle Boom. You are dead wrong here and I had a Northwestern ticket. They were very lucky to be in that position anyway. A&M manhandled them.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Boom_Boom:

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I give up


Either you get it........or you dont



You're just making yourself look like you can't man up and take a reasonable loss...nowhere near a moose.

A&M's kicker makes the FG's at an 85% rate.  Let's be extremely generous and say that his kick will get blocked 5% of the time.  Based on simple math, you're telling me you would turn down an 80% chance to simply close out the game then and there?

So lets say he misses the FG, or gets the FG blocked with no return - NW essentially has the ball at the exact same location if they were to go for it and get stuffed.  The chances NW blocks the FG and return it for a TD are EXTREMELY small....a sane coach (to use your words) would pretty much dismiss this possibility as it is likely under a 1% chance.

Also, lets say they do go for it - there is no saying they don't score a TD if they go for it - if they run the ball and get past the first layer, its 7 pts (see OK last night).
 
 
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Hey416 bet, Would you defend the coach if he went for it and didn't get it.. Then NW got to the 40 (like they did) and then caught the hail mary.. Would you defend him for not kicking a 30 yd fg with the best kicker in the country ??? We can play this game all day
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