I love the line movement on this game as well. Vegas has been sharp with the lines this bowl season, and they didn't put the Wolverines as a FG fav on this one. GL!!
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I love the line movement on this game as well. Vegas has been sharp with the lines this bowl season, and they didn't put the Wolverines as a FG fav on this one. GL!!
Much respect for u Train, I read ur threads in all sports daily but I am not in agreement with u on this one man. I am a huge Michigan fan, have been since I was a kid even though im from NY but I strongly disagree with ur play here. First off, someone in this thread called Michigan's offense "one dimensional", Mr Rainman and your 3 posts, you obviously dont know ur ass from a hole in the ground. This Michigan team has only fallen under 28 pts twice this year, against Michigan St (best D in Big 10 by far) @ Lansing they put up 14 and had 16 in a huge letdown game @ Iowa where they failed to find points twice inside the 10 yrd line in the 4th Q. Correcting your innacuracy, they never played Indiana this year, but did put up 40 on Ohio St, 45 on Nebraska and 31 on Illinois @ Illinois (as bad as they can play, Illinois's D is respectable). I will agree that VTech will be one of the best D's they will see this season but the thing I love about hoke as a 1st yr coach is that he has prepared them for the big games. Michigan is known to be a school that puts up letdown performances in bowl games. We always did under LLoyd Carr, but hoke has this team believing and that is mostly evident on the defensive side of the ball. Denard Robinson will be the fastest guy on the field tonight and all he needs is a step to break one and we saw what the speed of Clemson did to VTech....Don't be surprised if Michigan pulls off a couple trick plays tonight that go for TD's aswell. I loved this prop at 27 but still see Michigan getting at least 4 TD's tonight. As always, best of luck regardless Train but we are on opposite sides tonight.
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Much respect for u Train, I read ur threads in all sports daily but I am not in agreement with u on this one man. I am a huge Michigan fan, have been since I was a kid even though im from NY but I strongly disagree with ur play here. First off, someone in this thread called Michigan's offense "one dimensional", Mr Rainman and your 3 posts, you obviously dont know ur ass from a hole in the ground. This Michigan team has only fallen under 28 pts twice this year, against Michigan St (best D in Big 10 by far) @ Lansing they put up 14 and had 16 in a huge letdown game @ Iowa where they failed to find points twice inside the 10 yrd line in the 4th Q. Correcting your innacuracy, they never played Indiana this year, but did put up 40 on Ohio St, 45 on Nebraska and 31 on Illinois @ Illinois (as bad as they can play, Illinois's D is respectable). I will agree that VTech will be one of the best D's they will see this season but the thing I love about hoke as a 1st yr coach is that he has prepared them for the big games. Michigan is known to be a school that puts up letdown performances in bowl games. We always did under LLoyd Carr, but hoke has this team believing and that is mostly evident on the defensive side of the ball. Denard Robinson will be the fastest guy on the field tonight and all he needs is a step to break one and we saw what the speed of Clemson did to VTech....Don't be surprised if Michigan pulls off a couple trick plays tonight that go for TD's aswell. I loved this prop at 27 but still see Michigan getting at least 4 TD's tonight. As always, best of luck regardless Train but we are on opposite sides tonight.
Much respect for u Train, I read ur threads in all sports daily but I am not in agreement with u on this one man. I am a huge Michigan fan, have been since I was a kid even though im from NY but I strongly disagree with ur play here. First off, someone in this thread called Michigan's offense "one dimensional", Mr Rainman and your 3 posts, you obviously dont know ur ass from a hole in the ground. This Michigan team has only fallen under 28 pts twice this year, against Michigan St (best D in Big 10 by far) @ Lansing they put up 14 and had 16 in a huge letdown game @ Iowa where they failed to find points twice inside the 10 yrd line in the 4th Q. Correcting your innacuracy, they never played Indiana this year, but did put up 40 on Ohio St, 45 on Nebraska and 31 on Illinois @ Illinois (as bad as they can play, Illinois's D is respectable). I will agree that VTech will be one of the best D's they will see this season but the thing I love about hoke as a 1st yr coach is that he has prepared them for the big games. Michigan is known to be a school that puts up letdown performances in bowl games. We always did under LLoyd Carr, but hoke has this team believing and that is mostly evident on the defensive side of the ball. Denard Robinson will be the fastest guy on the field tonight and all he needs is a step to break one and we saw what the speed of Clemson did to VTech....Don't be surprised if Michigan pulls off a couple trick plays tonight that go for TD's aswell. I loved this prop at 27 but still see Michigan getting at least 4 TD's tonight. As always, best of luck regardless Train but we are on opposite sides tonight.
Michigan is the play tonite. When hokies lose, they usually get smashed Denard Robinson
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Quote Originally Posted by Logan-NYC:
Much respect for u Train, I read ur threads in all sports daily but I am not in agreement with u on this one man. I am a huge Michigan fan, have been since I was a kid even though im from NY but I strongly disagree with ur play here. First off, someone in this thread called Michigan's offense "one dimensional", Mr Rainman and your 3 posts, you obviously dont know ur ass from a hole in the ground. This Michigan team has only fallen under 28 pts twice this year, against Michigan St (best D in Big 10 by far) @ Lansing they put up 14 and had 16 in a huge letdown game @ Iowa where they failed to find points twice inside the 10 yrd line in the 4th Q. Correcting your innacuracy, they never played Indiana this year, but did put up 40 on Ohio St, 45 on Nebraska and 31 on Illinois @ Illinois (as bad as they can play, Illinois's D is respectable). I will agree that VTech will be one of the best D's they will see this season but the thing I love about hoke as a 1st yr coach is that he has prepared them for the big games. Michigan is known to be a school that puts up letdown performances in bowl games. We always did under LLoyd Carr, but hoke has this team believing and that is mostly evident on the defensive side of the ball. Denard Robinson will be the fastest guy on the field tonight and all he needs is a step to break one and we saw what the speed of Clemson did to VTech....Don't be surprised if Michigan pulls off a couple trick plays tonight that go for TD's aswell. I loved this prop at 27 but still see Michigan getting at least 4 TD's tonight. As always, best of luck regardless Train but we are on opposite sides tonight.
Michigan is the play tonite. When hokies lose, they usually get smashed Denard Robinson
Much respect for u Train, I read ur threads in all sports daily but I am not in agreement with u on this one man. I am a huge Michigan fan, have been since I was a kid even though im from NY but I strongly disagree with ur play here. First off, someone in this thread called Michigan's offense "one dimensional", Mr Rainman and your 3 posts, you obviously dont know ur ass from a hole in the ground. This Michigan team has only fallen under 28 pts twice this year, against Michigan St (best D in Big 10 by far) @ Lansing they put up 14 and had 16 in a huge letdown game @ Iowa where they failed to find points twice inside the 10 yrd line in the 4th Q. Correcting your innacuracy, they never played Indiana this year, but did put up 40 on Ohio St, 45 on Nebraska and 31 on Illinois @ Illinois (as bad as they can play, Illinois's D is respectable). I will agree that VTech will be one of the best D's they will see this season but the thing I love about hoke as a 1st yr coach is that he has prepared them for the big games. Michigan is known to be a school that puts up letdown performances in bowl games. We always did under LLoyd Carr, but hoke has this team believing and that is mostly evident on the defensive side of the ball. Denard Robinson will be the fastest guy on the field tonight and all he needs is a step to break one and we saw what the speed of Clemson did to VTech....Don't be surprised if Michigan pulls off a couple trick plays tonight that go for TD's aswell. I loved this prop at 27 but still see Michigan getting at least 4 TD's tonight. As always, best of luck regardless Train but we are on opposite sides tonight.
No problems Logan, I love good chats about games.
I think Denard will find it tough sledding and if he gets rocked a time or 2 Michigan is in trouble....
The Illinois/NW comment was just a jab at the Big 10 in general, didnt mean it literally as you could interchange Inadian with over half of the Big 10.
GL tonight bro
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Quote Originally Posted by Logan-NYC:
Much respect for u Train, I read ur threads in all sports daily but I am not in agreement with u on this one man. I am a huge Michigan fan, have been since I was a kid even though im from NY but I strongly disagree with ur play here. First off, someone in this thread called Michigan's offense "one dimensional", Mr Rainman and your 3 posts, you obviously dont know ur ass from a hole in the ground. This Michigan team has only fallen under 28 pts twice this year, against Michigan St (best D in Big 10 by far) @ Lansing they put up 14 and had 16 in a huge letdown game @ Iowa where they failed to find points twice inside the 10 yrd line in the 4th Q. Correcting your innacuracy, they never played Indiana this year, but did put up 40 on Ohio St, 45 on Nebraska and 31 on Illinois @ Illinois (as bad as they can play, Illinois's D is respectable). I will agree that VTech will be one of the best D's they will see this season but the thing I love about hoke as a 1st yr coach is that he has prepared them for the big games. Michigan is known to be a school that puts up letdown performances in bowl games. We always did under LLoyd Carr, but hoke has this team believing and that is mostly evident on the defensive side of the ball. Denard Robinson will be the fastest guy on the field tonight and all he needs is a step to break one and we saw what the speed of Clemson did to VTech....Don't be surprised if Michigan pulls off a couple trick plays tonight that go for TD's aswell. I loved this prop at 27 but still see Michigan getting at least 4 TD's tonight. As always, best of luck regardless Train but we are on opposite sides tonight.
No problems Logan, I love good chats about games.
I think Denard will find it tough sledding and if he gets rocked a time or 2 Michigan is in trouble....
The Illinois/NW comment was just a jab at the Big 10 in general, didnt mean it literally as you could interchange Inadian with over half of the Big 10.
The thing that has caught my eye is that everyone is on the under tonight. On paper, I get it. But the stats are misleading. Michigan very much so has a "bend but don't break" defense. They give up a lot of yardage comparitive to their points allowed. The thing is, they've had an amazing ability to create turnovers on their own half of the field and really haven't faced a highly efficient redzone offense. The best they faced was prolly Nebraska. I have also been impressed at how Michigan has been able to take what an opposing defense expects and use it against them this year. Everyone knows to watch out to D Rob but in games where teams have overemphasized not letting Robinson beat them Toussaint has gone off with games aproaching 200 yrds. Michigan has 3 quality backs, but he has earned #1 status by his play throughout this season. Their bread ånd butter is the lead option draw and an opposing D better be able to stop the RB up the middle as well as protect the outside from Robinson.....a lot easier said than done. I hear what ur saying about Robinson getting knocked around (as he has in most games), however, Gardner is a much better passer out of the 2 of them and he has seen action in most games this season. Gardner's a freshman and is still young and inexperienced, but when he is in a game he brings a whole different style of offense most teams have not prepared for. I do see VT getting their points tonight too as they have a multi-dimensional offense that can beat u several ways. One other point people don't realize is that Michigan played 8 home games this year having 2 of their biggest 3 games in Ann Arbor. (Nebraska and Ohio State) Only big road game was a loss @ Mich ST.
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The thing that has caught my eye is that everyone is on the under tonight. On paper, I get it. But the stats are misleading. Michigan very much so has a "bend but don't break" defense. They give up a lot of yardage comparitive to their points allowed. The thing is, they've had an amazing ability to create turnovers on their own half of the field and really haven't faced a highly efficient redzone offense. The best they faced was prolly Nebraska. I have also been impressed at how Michigan has been able to take what an opposing defense expects and use it against them this year. Everyone knows to watch out to D Rob but in games where teams have overemphasized not letting Robinson beat them Toussaint has gone off with games aproaching 200 yrds. Michigan has 3 quality backs, but he has earned #1 status by his play throughout this season. Their bread ånd butter is the lead option draw and an opposing D better be able to stop the RB up the middle as well as protect the outside from Robinson.....a lot easier said than done. I hear what ur saying about Robinson getting knocked around (as he has in most games), however, Gardner is a much better passer out of the 2 of them and he has seen action in most games this season. Gardner's a freshman and is still young and inexperienced, but when he is in a game he brings a whole different style of offense most teams have not prepared for. I do see VT getting their points tonight too as they have a multi-dimensional offense that can beat u several ways. One other point people don't realize is that Michigan played 8 home games this year having 2 of their biggest 3 games in Ann Arbor. (Nebraska and Ohio State) Only big road game was a loss @ Mich ST.
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You obviously watched a lot of Michigan games this year.
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