Do you really think Trickett would have left if Winston wasn't ready to step up. Fisher and company know what theyre doing or Trickett would be the starter.
But Pitt has their talented secondary back and the defense, while not world-beaters, are no slouches.
Also, how much do you think the coaching staff put on Winston's shoulders in his first game? Not too much I reckon, especially if Florida State is ahead.
This screams Under and clock draining runs and short passes.
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Quote Originally Posted by eliminat0r85:
Do you really think Trickett would have left if Winston wasn't ready to step up. Fisher and company know what theyre doing or Trickett would be the starter.
But Pitt has their talented secondary back and the defense, while not world-beaters, are no slouches.
Also, how much do you think the coaching staff put on Winston's shoulders in his first game? Not too much I reckon, especially if Florida State is ahead.
This screams Under and clock draining runs and short passes.
Why would the coaching staff not want to get their new qb for quite a few years as many reps as possible. FSU is a winning program, coaches who don't win dont last long they all know that and they know they have to get Winston into a groove as soon as possible. I expect FSU to run the offense they always run, FSU is not a deep bomb team, yes they throw some here and there but FSU will run the offense theyve always ran.
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Why would the coaching staff not want to get their new qb for quite a few years as many reps as possible. FSU is a winning program, coaches who don't win dont last long they all know that and they know they have to get Winston into a groove as soon as possible. I expect FSU to run the offense they always run, FSU is not a deep bomb team, yes they throw some here and there but FSU will run the offense theyve always ran.
I
don’t trust Jimbo Fisher at all AND I definitely don’t trust the true freshman
under center to cover 10 on the road in a nationally televised game…Savage is a senior signal caller and I’m sure
he has a chip on his shoulder having loss his starting gig due to an injury as a
freshman at Rutgers…I guarantee he is hungry for this opportunity
after having to sit out the last two years…
Put
me down for Pittsburgh
plus the two score head start at the house on a day they will be retiring Larry
Fitzgerald’s jersey please.Thanks!
Do you think Winston is not ready to prove why he deserves to be the starting QB? Savage was sidelines because the other guy proved to be better, he transfered, he didnt play at AZ, he left when rod came in now hes at Pitt. He hasn't played a full game at game speed in 2 years. Hes just as much of a rookie as Winston is.
High School football is more competitive now, the notion that a freshman cant come in and start in a hostile environment is going to be slowly erased. These kids are coming in hyped up and ready to play.
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Quote Originally Posted by holtnt:
I
agree!
I
don’t trust Jimbo Fisher at all AND I definitely don’t trust the true freshman
under center to cover 10 on the road in a nationally televised game…Savage is a senior signal caller and I’m sure
he has a chip on his shoulder having loss his starting gig due to an injury as a
freshman at Rutgers…I guarantee he is hungry for this opportunity
after having to sit out the last two years…
Put
me down for Pittsburgh
plus the two score head start at the house on a day they will be retiring Larry
Fitzgerald’s jersey please.Thanks!
Do you think Winston is not ready to prove why he deserves to be the starting QB? Savage was sidelines because the other guy proved to be better, he transfered, he didnt play at AZ, he left when rod came in now hes at Pitt. He hasn't played a full game at game speed in 2 years. Hes just as much of a rookie as Winston is.
High School football is more competitive now, the notion that a freshman cant come in and start in a hostile environment is going to be slowly erased. These kids are coming in hyped up and ready to play.
Why would the coaching staff not want to get their new qb for quite a few years as many reps as possible. FSU is a winning program, coaches who don't win dont last long they all know that and they know they have to get Winston into a groove as soon as possible. I expect FSU to run the offense they always run, FSU is not a deep bomb team, yes they throw some here and there but FSU will run the offense theyve always ran.
Sounds like more fodder for an Under play.
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Quote Originally Posted by eliminat0r85:
Why would the coaching staff not want to get their new qb for quite a few years as many reps as possible. FSU is a winning program, coaches who don't win dont last long they all know that and they know they have to get Winston into a groove as soon as possible. I expect FSU to run the offense they always run, FSU is not a deep bomb team, yes they throw some here and there but FSU will run the offense theyve always ran.
Honestly I have no lean on the total. I know FSU will score, I have no idea if pitt will be able to score or not, last time i saw savage he played good for rutgers, but that was big east like 2 years ago. FSU's may not be returning a lot of starters on defense but its not like the guys have never played a game before, defenders rotate in and out all the time. I have no doubt that FSU's defense will be up to the challenge.
The thing that worries me about the total is Winston has shown hes a gunslinger, hes not afraid to go up top, so if the run game does well and pitt starts cheating there might be quite a few highlight reel bombs in this one.
I'm thinking you're looking at a 35-21 type of game. Pitts defense is not that stout and they showed it last year and have gotten no coaching help. They maybe retiring a jersey and pitt may be hype but that hype will not last all game.
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Honestly I have no lean on the total. I know FSU will score, I have no idea if pitt will be able to score or not, last time i saw savage he played good for rutgers, but that was big east like 2 years ago. FSU's may not be returning a lot of starters on defense but its not like the guys have never played a game before, defenders rotate in and out all the time. I have no doubt that FSU's defense will be up to the challenge.
The thing that worries me about the total is Winston has shown hes a gunslinger, hes not afraid to go up top, so if the run game does well and pitt starts cheating there might be quite a few highlight reel bombs in this one.
I'm thinking you're looking at a 35-21 type of game. Pitts defense is not that stout and they showed it last year and have gotten no coaching help. They maybe retiring a jersey and pitt may be hype but that hype will not last all game.
I have no problem with Savage i'm just saying hes basically a freshman QB at this point, he hasnt played a competitive game in 2 years.
Also don't kid yourself Winston is 19 and he plays baseball for a very good FSU squad and was in some pretty tense environments during that time, i have no doubt he will be fine with pitts fan base at heinz field.
So if his football career fails i think he has a spot on the rangers squad.
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I have no problem with Savage i'm just saying hes basically a freshman QB at this point, he hasnt played a competitive game in 2 years.
Also don't kid yourself Winston is 19 and he plays baseball for a very good FSU squad and was in some pretty tense environments during that time, i have no doubt he will be fine with pitts fan base at heinz field.
So if his football career fails i think he has a spot on the rangers squad.
I'm confident Winston will impress tomorrow night. The X-factor for me is how good will Pitt be with Savage running things. Thats an unknown for me at this point. I know plenty about the Noles though.
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I'm confident Winston will impress tomorrow night. The X-factor for me is how good will Pitt be with Savage running things. Thats an unknown for me at this point. I know plenty about the Noles though.
Go against public perception lets face it were the public.... best bet is 2 stay away.... im for one not the public I actually watch every.game either side is capable of winning... toodays colorado over 23 pts was obvious and I gave away as a lock in my first post .... there is no lock 2 be had here.... you just want 2 bet to bet ? Pitt is going to take it to.fla st and try to out score them they have never been a ball control clock eating team.... look at notre dame look at louisville.... louisville beat fla ez.... fla.beat fla st ez pitt almost had louisville..... lmao stay away you fools or pick pitt and the over... pitt is no punks they arent gonna be afraid of fla st offence why keep the ball away ? Thats what inferior teams try when they are outclassed and b if they have a good proven running game and a qb that can make first downs... I wouldnt want to be one dimensional and make it ez for fla st. To win....pitt has a qb that can make reads and a wide out that can go long...... take pitt and the over or leave it alone.... no parlays damnit.... books only care about equal action and they will always have plenty of suckers on fla st.... fla st lost more than pitt.... lets face it.... just use ur head and stay away......
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Go against public perception lets face it were the public.... best bet is 2 stay away.... im for one not the public I actually watch every.game either side is capable of winning... toodays colorado over 23 pts was obvious and I gave away as a lock in my first post .... there is no lock 2 be had here.... you just want 2 bet to bet ? Pitt is going to take it to.fla st and try to out score them they have never been a ball control clock eating team.... look at notre dame look at louisville.... louisville beat fla ez.... fla.beat fla st ez pitt almost had louisville..... lmao stay away you fools or pick pitt and the over... pitt is no punks they arent gonna be afraid of fla st offence why keep the ball away ? Thats what inferior teams try when they are outclassed and b if they have a good proven running game and a qb that can make first downs... I wouldnt want to be one dimensional and make it ez for fla st. To win....pitt has a qb that can make reads and a wide out that can go long...... take pitt and the over or leave it alone.... no parlays damnit.... books only care about equal action and they will always have plenty of suckers on fla st.... fla st lost more than pitt.... lets face it.... just use ur head and stay away......
Go against public perception lets face it were the public.... best bet is 2 stay away.... im for one not the public I actually watch every.game either side is capable of winning... toodays colorado over 23 pts was obvious and I gave away as a lock in my first post .... there is no lock 2 be had here.... you just want 2 bet to bet ? Pitt is going to take it to.fla st and try to out score them they have never been a ball control clock eating team.... look at notre dame look at louisville.... louisville beat fla ez.... fla.beat fla st ez pitt almost had louisville..... lmao stay away you fools or pick pitt and the over... pitt is no punks they arent gonna be afraid of fla st offence why keep the ball away ? Thats what inferior teams try when they are outclassed and b if they have a good proven running game and a qb that can make first downs... I wouldnt want to be one dimensional and make it ez for fla st. To win....pitt has a qb that can make reads and a wide out that can go long...... take pitt and the over or leave it alone.... no parlays damnit.... books only care about equal action and they will always have plenty of suckers on fla st.... fla st lost more than pitt.... lets face it.... just use ur head and stay away......
Under it is, thank you.
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Quote Originally Posted by k0nk1n:
Go against public perception lets face it were the public.... best bet is 2 stay away.... im for one not the public I actually watch every.game either side is capable of winning... toodays colorado over 23 pts was obvious and I gave away as a lock in my first post .... there is no lock 2 be had here.... you just want 2 bet to bet ? Pitt is going to take it to.fla st and try to out score them they have never been a ball control clock eating team.... look at notre dame look at louisville.... louisville beat fla ez.... fla.beat fla st ez pitt almost had louisville..... lmao stay away you fools or pick pitt and the over... pitt is no punks they arent gonna be afraid of fla st offence why keep the ball away ? Thats what inferior teams try when they are outclassed and b if they have a good proven running game and a qb that can make first downs... I wouldnt want to be one dimensional and make it ez for fla st. To win....pitt has a qb that can make reads and a wide out that can go long...... take pitt and the over or leave it alone.... no parlays damnit.... books only care about equal action and they will always have plenty of suckers on fla st.... fla st lost more than pitt.... lets face it.... just use ur head and stay away......
As many here have already said, I see an under also. Florida State seems much more athletic and Pitts O definitely appears underwhelming. The freshman QB is what holds me back from an FSU play, I just don't know what to expect. I have a sneaking feeling he is going to be pretty good.... I may just sit out until the half or a small under play and go from there. Best of luck.
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As many here have already said, I see an under also. Florida State seems much more athletic and Pitts O definitely appears underwhelming. The freshman QB is what holds me back from an FSU play, I just don't know what to expect. I have a sneaking feeling he is going to be pretty good.... I may just sit out until the half or a small under play and go from there. Best of luck.
ONE THING I KNOW ABOUT BETTING WHEN EVERYBODY BETTING ON ONE THING GO THE OTHER WAY I SEE EVERYBODY TAKING THE UNDER BOY I SURE HOPE YALL RIGHT THATS ALL IM SAYIN
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ONE THING I KNOW ABOUT BETTING WHEN EVERYBODY BETTING ON ONE THING GO THE OTHER WAY I SEE EVERYBODY TAKING THE UNDER BOY I SURE HOPE YALL RIGHT THATS ALL IM SAYIN
It doesn't matter who you put under center if he has time, will beat you thru air. FSU much better lines.
FSU better on O line & D line. Pitt is isn't even matching up close to FSU. Pitt is going no where, dont over think this and waste money.
FSU wins this by 17. Not blowout but comfortable win
Btw FSU QB is a stud. Number one recruit in country for QBs. He redshirted last yr, knows system. I ll take a stud QB, better d fence and Offense for -10 pts over a team that with no speed and much lower talent.
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It doesn't matter who you put under center if he has time, will beat you thru air. FSU much better lines.
FSU better on O line & D line. Pitt is isn't even matching up close to FSU. Pitt is going no where, dont over think this and waste money.
FSU wins this by 17. Not blowout but comfortable win
Btw FSU QB is a stud. Number one recruit in country for QBs. He redshirted last yr, knows system. I ll take a stud QB, better d fence and Offense for -10 pts over a team that with no speed and much lower talent.
The number is LOW for College game with two good teams at 49 so it scares me to think this game will be in Low 20s if spread is 10 Vegas is trying to get money on PITT - / Vegas knows everyone will be on FL State and they will NOT Cover this game may come in at 23 -16 : Pitt cover the number goes way Under as the public sees a 35 17 beat-down.- If it seems to low there is a reason. Either way get on Vegas side of bet.
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The number is LOW for College game with two good teams at 49 so it scares me to think this game will be in Low 20s if spread is 10 Vegas is trying to get money on PITT - / Vegas knows everyone will be on FL State and they will NOT Cover this game may come in at 23 -16 : Pitt cover the number goes way Under as the public sees a 35 17 beat-down.- If it seems to low there is a reason. Either way get on Vegas side of bet.
The number is LOW for College game with two good teams at 49 so it scares me to think this game will be in Low 20s if spread is 10 Vegas is trying to get money on PITT - / Vegas knows everyone will be on FL State and they will NOT Cover this game may come in at 23 -16 : with a Pitt cover the number goes way Under as the public sees a 35 17 beat-down.- If it seems to low there is a reason. Either way get on Vegas side of bet. Let me add Never go against a HOME DOG - PITT should cover and Under would be the play
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Quote Originally Posted by TheOldQB:
The number is LOW for College game with two good teams at 49 so it scares me to think this game will be in Low 20s if spread is 10 Vegas is trying to get money on PITT - / Vegas knows everyone will be on FL State and they will NOT Cover this game may come in at 23 -16 : with a Pitt cover the number goes way Under as the public sees a 35 17 beat-down.- If it seems to low there is a reason. Either way get on Vegas side of bet. Let me add Never go against a HOME DOG - PITT should cover and Under would be the play
Florida State will dominate this game. It is laughable how some of you lack even a basic understanding on the capabilities of both teams. Haven't you done your research? Have you not already watched the youtube footage of the respective spring games? if this were a midseason game at pitt, then maybe the noles would lay an egg like they did against NC State last year. they have an off week prior to lowly Nevada in Tal. they have been preparing for pitt since the start of camp with no look aheads. pitt's skill position returning starters are relegated to street, and FSU will put their best corner on him to limit his effectiveness. FSU has one of the best Offensive Lines in the country, and a DL loaded with young but #1 and #2 ranked players at their positions. FSU's D will be more aggressive than what they had with Stoops. The talent differential between FSU and Pitt is huge. Chryst is a great coach and he will turn Pitt into a sustainable winning program. I just don't see it in week 1. Sure, Winston has a lot of hype, and he will need to produce, but he is extremely gifted, and I don't get the impression that he will get rattled at pitt. plus, fisher will put a simplified game plan focused on the run first. If Pitt tries to stack the box, Winston will burn them with their freakishly talented WRs.
I think FSU -10 and FSU/Pitt Under is the play here.
Florida State 35
Pitt 10
LonghornHoosier
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Florida State will dominate this game. It is laughable how some of you lack even a basic understanding on the capabilities of both teams. Haven't you done your research? Have you not already watched the youtube footage of the respective spring games? if this were a midseason game at pitt, then maybe the noles would lay an egg like they did against NC State last year. they have an off week prior to lowly Nevada in Tal. they have been preparing for pitt since the start of camp with no look aheads. pitt's skill position returning starters are relegated to street, and FSU will put their best corner on him to limit his effectiveness. FSU has one of the best Offensive Lines in the country, and a DL loaded with young but #1 and #2 ranked players at their positions. FSU's D will be more aggressive than what they had with Stoops. The talent differential between FSU and Pitt is huge. Chryst is a great coach and he will turn Pitt into a sustainable winning program. I just don't see it in week 1. Sure, Winston has a lot of hype, and he will need to produce, but he is extremely gifted, and I don't get the impression that he will get rattled at pitt. plus, fisher will put a simplified game plan focused on the run first. If Pitt tries to stack the box, Winston will burn them with their freakishly talented WRs.
I think FSU -10 and FSU/Pitt Under is the play here.
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