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    PURDUE @ MARYLAND: We made money off 'em last week and we'll do it again this week!

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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2016 - 7:57 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Please don't come in this thread and use "4-0 ATS in last 4 road games" as a defense of taking Purdue. I'm not even going to address an 'October trend'.

    But let's talk about those 4 road games because on their face, that appears attractive:


    @Iowa/Purdue getting 23 - loss 40-20. It was, embarrassingly, the second biggest number Iowa gave out all year after spotting 25 to North Texas. Think about that: We are supposed to laud Purdue for a 23 point spread road cover against an Iowa team, who, dare I say, didn't exactly run a spread offense last year, by a measly 3, and still got bombed in the real game. We are supposed to use this as 'capping ammo' for a potential road performance when analyzing this Maryland game?

    The next game?

    @ Northwestern: Lost 21-14. Embarrassingly, Northwestern gave as many points to Purdue, 14, as they almost did to...Ball State. Imagine a Power 5 team on the level of Ball state in terms of a spread. So sad. And only Eastern Illinois received more at +24 from NW. Again, Northwestern isn't the Run and Shoot Houston Oilers here to be spotting this kind of number, but when it comes to Purdue at the end of the year with their season spiraling out of control, 14 was quite reasonable. And of course, Purdue lost but to their credit covered. But still, the number itself is a bit outrageous given the above.

    @ Wisconsin: Lost 24-7 getting 21.5. Let's not brag about .5 pt cover in Purdue's most lackluster offensive performance of the year (and there were many but this was the worst) because Wisconsin sat on the ball in the second half as Purdue covered by a hair.

    @Michigan State: 24-21 getting 21. I'll give them credit for this one. So if you want to use THIS ONE GAME as ammo for your pick this year, be my guest. It happened almost a YEAR ago to the day on 10/3. That was EONS ago.

    So the 4-0 ATS on the road in the last 4 really isn't of any worth.


    That 4-0 came as Purdue was wrapping the season up, players were thinking about graduating and leaving that hell and Blough was still learning the ropes. The books couldn't give them enough points. I also think their OC Shoop was intentionally trying to get fired with some of his play calling.

    This year they are 2-1 and are getting a little more than two scores on the road. It's not enough, is completely different than the "end of year 'shoot me now' Purdue" where the numbers were bloated to the high heavens. I'm more than willing to defame them in this way for this ONE game to make money off it. I WANT them to win. Trust me. But they won't. And it could get ugly fast. I'll hope for better against Lovie Smith but a win here just isn't going to happen. I'd be floored if it did.



    both sides can bark but we shall wait till game day.  If your senior qb don't play is what I am betting upon and taking that spread. 


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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Please don't come in this thread and use "4-0 ATS in last 4 road games" as a defense of taking Purdue. I'm not even going to address an 'October trend'.

    But let's talk about those 4 road games because on their face, that appears attractive:


    @Iowa/Purdue getting 23 - loss 40-20. It was, embarrassingly, the second biggest number Iowa gave out all year after spotting 25 to North Texas. Think about that: We are supposed to laud Purdue for a 23 point spread road cover against an Iowa team, who, dare I say, didn't exactly run a spread offense last year, by a measly 3, and still got bombed in the real game. We are supposed to use this as 'capping ammo' for a potential road performance when analyzing this Maryland game?

    The next game?

    @ Northwestern: Lost 21-14. Embarrassingly, Northwestern gave as many points to Purdue, 14, as they almost did to...Ball State. Imagine a Power 5 team on the level of Ball state in terms of a spread. So sad. And only Eastern Illinois received more at +24 from NW. Again, Northwestern isn't the Run and Shoot Houston Oilers here to be spotting this kind of number, but when it comes to Purdue at the end of the year with their season spiraling out of control, 14 was quite reasonable. And of course, Purdue lost but to their credit covered. But still, the number itself is a bit outrageous given the above.

    @ Wisconsin: Lost 24-7 getting 21.5. Let's not brag about .5 pt cover in Purdue's most lackluster offensive performance of the year (and there were many but this was the worst) because Wisconsin sat on the ball in the second half as Purdue covered by a hair.

    @Michigan State: 24-21 getting 21. I'll give them credit for this one. So if you want to use THIS ONE GAME as ammo for your pick this year, be my guest. It happened almost a YEAR ago to the day on 10/3. That was EONS ago.

    So the 4-0 ATS on the road in the last 4 really isn't of any worth.


    That 4-0 came as Purdue was wrapping the season up, players were thinking about graduating and leaving that hell and Blough was still learning the ropes. The books couldn't give them enough points. I also think their OC Shoop was intentionally trying to get fired with some of his play calling.

    This year they are 2-1 and are getting a little more than two scores on the road. It's not enough, is completely different than the "end of year 'shoot me now' Purdue" where the numbers were bloated to the high heavens. I'm more than willing to defame them in this way for this ONE game to make money off it. I WANT them to win. Trust me. But they won't. And it could get ugly fast. I'll hope for better against Lovie Smith but a win here just isn't going to happen. I'd be floored if it did.



    both sides can bark but we shall wait till game day.  If your senior qb don't play is what I am betting upon and taking that spread. 


     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2016 - 8:12 PM ET #27

    I think you said it's a road game but not sure it was mentioned it's Purdue's first road game of the year which is one of a handful coming this late... I like MD, I'm buying if it dips to 10 again. 
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    I think you said it's a road game but not sure it was mentioned it's Purdue's first road game of the year which is one of a handful coming this late... I like MD, I'm buying if it dips to 10 again. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2016 - 8:46 PM ET #28

    Maryland coach DJ Durkin on #B1G teleconference on QB Perry Hills: "We're expecting him to be back and playing and doing well."
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    Maryland coach DJ Durkin on #B1G teleconference on QB Perry Hills: "We're expecting him to be back and playing and doing well."
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2016 - 8:48 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Maryland coach DJ Durkin on #B1G teleconference on QB Perry Hills: "We're expecting him to be back and playing and doing well."


    ok if he plays, you win 

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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Maryland coach DJ Durkin on #B1G teleconference on QB Perry Hills: "We're expecting him to be back and playing and doing well."


    ok if he plays, you win 

    end rant 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2016 - 10:02 PM ET #30

    Agree with your analysis..UM has some steam this season, and off a bye..theyll make good on the opportunity to blow away a conference opponent.
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    Agree with your analysis..UM has some steam this season, and off a bye..theyll make good on the opportunity to blow away a conference opponent.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 29, 2016 - 10:15 PM ET #31

    Scal, great write-up as usual. Much info to support several points.

    People want to argue vs. 17-6, interesting......

    Certainly keep my eye on this one Saturday.

    GLTA
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    Scal, great write-up as usual. Much info to support several points.

    People want to argue vs. 17-6, interesting......

    Certainly keep my eye on this one Saturday.

    GLTA
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2016 - 1:43 AM ET #32

    Hawk gman Bridge Madison" Appreciate it!

    Nfl: He'll play. But even if he doesn't somehow, Maryland is still a run-first team.

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    Hawk gman Bridge Madison" Appreciate it!

    Nfl: He'll play. But even if he doesn't somehow, Maryland is still a run-first team.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2016 - 5:04 PM ET #33

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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2016 - 5:53 PM ET #34

    Maryland is clearly a different monster with DJ Durkin coaching now. I like the pick 
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    Maryland is clearly a different monster with DJ Durkin coaching now. I like the pick 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2016 - 6:11 PM ET #35

    Good luck brother.  Your write ups and plays are something I always look forward too.  Go Maryland!
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    Good luck brother.  Your write ups and plays are something I always look forward too.  Go Maryland!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2016 - 10:54 PM ET #36

    always love your write-ups scal. only thing is the line movement is scaring me. 92% of wagers on Maryland and the line keeps moving between -10.5 and -10. it hasn't gotten north of -11 at any book I've seen.
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    always love your write-ups scal. only thing is the line movement is scaring me. 92% of wagers on Maryland and the line keeps moving between -10.5 and -10. it hasn't gotten north of -11 at any book I've seen.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2016 - 1:21 AM ET #37

    Har good

    @Anaheim-

    Line movement? Line movement is a shortcut you can use for a bit of insight on the game if you want action on it.

    If you capped it fully (I did) you don't need line movement.


    Let me ask you a question.

    Name the worst FBS teams you can think of in 10 seconds...

    Go....





















    Done? You probably came up with some of the following names:


    Charlotte

    Georgia Southern

    North Texas

    Eastern Michigan


    Well guess what...

    Every single one of those teams is more efficient at stopping teams on third down this year.

    Every one.

    Yes, Purdue has the worst Opponent's 3rd down conversion rate against them, in the nation.

    I'll bet Darrell Hazell A) doesn't know this or B) hasn't addressed this even if he does know it.

    How do I know this? Because he allowed his team to give up 18 straight 3rd down conversions against Cincy and the very next week, Nevada converted 9 of 15 third downs.

    Purdue allows opponents to convert 57.1% of third downs on them. That is incredible.

    Now if they played Syracuse's schedule (South Florida, Louisville) I could understand.

    Purdue has played: Eastern Kentucky (FCS), Cincinnati, Nevada.

    Yes, those three teams converted more third downs over three games than any of team in the nation.

    Arkansas State, for god's sake, is second worst and better than Purdue.

    That is why I say 10 or 10.5 or 11 simply isn't enough here.

    2-1 means nothing when you bring up a stat like that because that is the proof in the pudding of that record, and that pudding is rancid. 

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    Har good

    @Anaheim-

    Line movement? Line movement is a shortcut you can use for a bit of insight on the game if you want action on it.

    If you capped it fully (I did) you don't need line movement.


    Let me ask you a question.

    Name the worst FBS teams you can think of in 10 seconds...

    Go....





















    Done? You probably came up with some of the following names:


    Charlotte

    Georgia Southern

    North Texas

    Eastern Michigan


    Well guess what...

    Every single one of those teams is more efficient at stopping teams on third down this year.

    Every one.

    Yes, Purdue has the worst Opponent's 3rd down conversion rate against them, in the nation.

    I'll bet Darrell Hazell A) doesn't know this or B) hasn't addressed this even if he does know it.

    How do I know this? Because he allowed his team to give up 18 straight 3rd down conversions against Cincy and the very next week, Nevada converted 9 of 15 third downs.

    Purdue allows opponents to convert 57.1% of third downs on them. That is incredible.

    Now if they played Syracuse's schedule (South Florida, Louisville) I could understand.

    Purdue has played: Eastern Kentucky (FCS), Cincinnati, Nevada.

    Yes, those three teams converted more third downs over three games than any of team in the nation.

    Arkansas State, for god's sake, is second worst and better than Purdue.

    That is why I say 10 or 10.5 or 11 simply isn't enough here.

    2-1 means nothing when you bring up a stat like that because that is the proof in the pudding of that record, and that pudding is rancid. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2016 - 1:47 AM ET #38

    I guess the confusing part is you are confident they get to 5 wins but you talk about them like they're the worst team in football. And the schedule only gets harder from here

    Is tomorrow's bet a modified hedge?
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    I guess the confusing part is you are confident they get to 5 wins but you talk about them like they're the worst team in football. And the schedule only gets harder from here

    Is tomorrow's bet a modified hedge?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2016 - 9:47 AM ET #39

    Let's get it scal! 
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    Let's get it scal! 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2016 - 10:26 AM ET #40

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDTITLE:

    I guess the confusing part is you are confident they get to 5 wins but you talk about them like they're the worst team in football. And the schedule only gets harder from here

    Is tomorrow's bet a modified hedge?

    BigD - That's quite a logical stretch if you are going to debate Purdue's merits and the win total bet with me.

    I made the Purdue Over 4.5 wins at the beginning of the season. At most, I saw them winning 6 games to sneak into a bowl.

    When I saw them play Cincy I tempered that to 5 games at best. That game was an utter annihilation....at home. As noted above, this game is their first road game. They've been quite comfortable with 3 straight home games with 2 teams largely inferior.

    I also said the season win total bet would cause us to 'scratch and claw' to get there. It would be a intense fight and I said you would hate me at times if you joined me in the total wins bet. At 2-1 we are not scratching and clawing yet but that time will come very soon.

    At this record, I am content with my season win total bet but it is unfathomable to think this team will get to 3-1 (.750) after watching that Nevada game.

    They wanted to give that game away in every way possible. 4 turnovers, nearly all in the first quarter and digging themselves a hole they took the entire game to get out of. And they still wanted to give that game away at the end.

    That was with the bye. That was with Nevada being a lower-tier, undersized, devoid of substantive recruiting FBS team. That was at home. That was a game with the season on the line. They won, but they didn't coast over the finish line to say the least.

    A win is a win for money but that is not a win that was light years from impressing me, which Purdue hasn't really done in the entire Hazell era (except for maybe Nebraska last year but that was in a 2 win season for god's sake and Nebraska's starting QB was out).

    If they are going to lose 7 games, I am more than willing to bet against them even with the season win total bet. I need not sit on the sidelines and pray they go to 3-1 for a win total when that is unrealistic. I can make money off a situational play and have no problem bringing others along for the ride.

    And in the Hazell era, he's come off of wins 7 times. In each subsequent game he lost by >=14 points except once against Notre Dame all the way back in 2013 where he lost by 7. This team typically gets their a** handed to them off wins and I have no problem betting on that! 


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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGDTITLE:

    I guess the confusing part is you are confident they get to 5 wins but you talk about them like they're the worst team in football. And the schedule only gets harder from here

    Is tomorrow's bet a modified hedge?

    BigD - That's quite a logical stretch if you are going to debate Purdue's merits and the win total bet with me.

    I made the Purdue Over 4.5 wins at the beginning of the season. At most, I saw them winning 6 games to sneak into a bowl.

    When I saw them play Cincy I tempered that to 5 games at best. That game was an utter annihilation....at home. As noted above, this game is their first road game. They've been quite comfortable with 3 straight home games with 2 teams largely inferior.

    I also said the season win total bet would cause us to 'scratch and claw' to get there. It would be a intense fight and I said you would hate me at times if you joined me in the total wins bet. At 2-1 we are not scratching and clawing yet but that time will come very soon.

    At this record, I am content with my season win total bet but it is unfathomable to think this team will get to 3-1 (.750) after watching that Nevada game.

    They wanted to give that game away in every way possible. 4 turnovers, nearly all in the first quarter and digging themselves a hole they took the entire game to get out of. And they still wanted to give that game away at the end.

    That was with the bye. That was with Nevada being a lower-tier, undersized, devoid of substantive recruiting FBS team. That was at home. That was a game with the season on the line. They won, but they didn't coast over the finish line to say the least.

    A win is a win for money but that is not a win that was light years from impressing me, which Purdue hasn't really done in the entire Hazell era (except for maybe Nebraska last year but that was in a 2 win season for god's sake and Nebraska's starting QB was out).

    If they are going to lose 7 games, I am more than willing to bet against them even with the season win total bet. I need not sit on the sidelines and pray they go to 3-1 for a win total when that is unrealistic. I can make money off a situational play and have no problem bringing others along for the ride.

    And in the Hazell era, he's come off of wins 7 times. In each subsequent game he lost by >=14 points except once against Notre Dame all the way back in 2013 where he lost by 7. This team typically gets their a** handed to them off wins and I have no problem betting on that! 


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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2016 - 3:27 PM ET #42

    Good luck Scal
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    Good luck Scal
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2016 - 3:29 PM ET #43

    Love this play, it's one of my top picks this week.

    Good luck!

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    Love this play, it's one of my top picks this week.

    Good luck!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2016 - 3:59 PM ET #44

    BOL.. Purdue is bad at home and is absolutely terrible on the road.
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    BOL.. Purdue is bad at home and is absolutely terrible on the road.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2016 - 4:02 PM ET #45

    You are my bailout Scal,  got middled last night on byu, lets get this  

     
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    You are my bailout Scal,  got middled last night on byu, lets get this  

     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2016 - 4:29 PM ET #46

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    scalabrine
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2016 - 4:33 PM ET #47

    Quote Originally Posted by snowman76:

    You are my bailout Scal,  got middled last night on byu, lets get this  

     

    Gotta be careful with BYU. There is some talent there (and a decent coach)! Just not enough to be laying points. Like Purdue, you REALLY have to pick your spots!

    Santa Coin Saints 


    So far so good at 15-0 Maryland. Purdue leading in time of possession and have 0 points to show for it. This is what they do folks. Missed FG's. Penalties. The turnovers will come. Just wait. You'll see. What a shame. Can't even win two fu**ing games in a row. Two games. A disgrace. Maryland isn't exactly Ohio State here...


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    Quote Originally Posted by snowman76:

    You are my bailout Scal,  got middled last night on byu, lets get this  

     

    Gotta be careful with BYU. There is some talent there (and a decent coach)! Just not enough to be laying points. Like Purdue, you REALLY have to pick your spots!

    Santa Coin Saints 


    So far so good at 15-0 Maryland. Purdue leading in time of possession and have 0 points to show for it. This is what they do folks. Missed FG's. Penalties. The turnovers will come. Just wait. You'll see. What a shame. Can't even win two fu**ing games in a row. Two games. A disgrace. Maryland isn't exactly Ohio State here...


     
    D-ro
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2016 - 4:46 PM ET #48

    Looking good so far scal. Keep up the good work. Any insights on other college or tomorrow's NFL?
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    Looking good so far scal. Keep up the good work. Any insights on other college or tomorrow's NFL?
     
    StoneyMcPony
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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2016 - 5:06 PM ET #49

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    Posted: Oct. 1, 2016 - 5:55 PM ET #50

    Atta boy
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    Atta boy
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