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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2010 - 1:34 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by 1bajalife:

    Anybody notice how little Florida threw the ball? I thought their new QB Brantley was supposed to be amazing. I watched most of that game and was unimpressed with the play calling and the apparent lack of throws down the field to open up the defense.
    They had a total of 28 net yards going into the 4th qtr at home to Miami, OH.
    Are you fucking kidding me? Seriously that game was a joke and Florida looked like a team that shouldn't be in the top 50.
    Thought???

    Well when you turn it over every possession from bad snaps and fumbles, its hard to have a lot of total yardage offensively when the other team has the ball the whole game. Much less all the negative yards from bad snaps backwards. Its not hard to figure out how that number was low
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1bajalife:

    Anybody notice how little Florida threw the ball? I thought their new QB Brantley was supposed to be amazing. I watched most of that game and was unimpressed with the play calling and the apparent lack of throws down the field to open up the defense.
    They had a total of 28 net yards going into the 4th qtr at home to Miami, OH.
    Are you fucking kidding me? Seriously that game was a joke and Florida looked like a team that shouldn't be in the top 50.
    Thought???

    Well when you turn it over every possession from bad snaps and fumbles, its hard to have a lot of total yardage offensively when the other team has the ball the whole game. Much less all the negative yards from bad snaps backwards. Its not hard to figure out how that number was low
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2010 - 1:41 AM ET #27

    Regardless of miscues, they did not throw the ball down the field once. They kept trying to run the ball with almost zero success bud. 
    I don't care how many times you have bad snaps, you were playing at home to a 1 win team last season. 28 yards after 3 quarters to a div. 1 bottom dweller is a fucking joke.
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    Regardless of miscues, they did not throw the ball down the field once. They kept trying to run the ball with almost zero success bud. 
    I don't care how many times you have bad snaps, you were playing at home to a 1 win team last season. 28 yards after 3 quarters to a div. 1 bottom dweller is a fucking joke.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2010 - 1:45 AM ET #28

    who said Florida played anything but awful? Im not here to be a biased fan and defend anything. 


    Im talking about capping this game, since I am a UF fan I knew damn well that there were many players out and even more Meyer didn't let play before the game for misconduct. Including our Senior OL, and Senior Safety. Not many knew that UF was playing with a makeshift OL and they thought that was what they are as a whole while watching horrible blocking in the run game.
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    who said Florida played anything but awful? Im not here to be a biased fan and defend anything. 


    Im talking about capping this game, since I am a UF fan I knew damn well that there were many players out and even more Meyer didn't let play before the game for misconduct. Including our Senior OL, and Senior Safety. Not many knew that UF was playing with a makeshift OL and they thought that was what they are as a whole while watching horrible blocking in the run game.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2010 - 1:51 AM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    USF was giving up pts evenly to Stony Brook in the First half last week.


    Stony Brook? That sounds like a cozy apartment complex

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    USF was giving up pts evenly to Stony Brook in the First half last week.


    Stony Brook? That sounds like a cozy apartment complex

     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2010 - 1:52 AM ET #30

    That's great. As a observer who watched the game I didn't understand the play calling at all. I mean I kept saying to myself when are they going to let Brantley loose? Just weird thats all. 
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    That's great. As a observer who watched the game I didn't understand the play calling at all. I mean I kept saying to myself when are they going to let Brantley loose? Just weird thats all. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2010 - 1:54 AM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by 1bajalife:

    That's great. As a observer who watched the game I didn't understand the play calling at all. I mean I kept saying to myself when are they going to let Brantley loose? Just weird thats all. 

    Well, imagine how frustrating it is as a fan to watch the OC be the most predictable and boring play caller in the nation with nothing but explosive weapons and knives to cut with. Especially now with a good passing QB and speedy backs
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1bajalife:

    That's great. As a observer who watched the game I didn't understand the play calling at all. I mean I kept saying to myself when are they going to let Brantley loose? Just weird thats all. 

    Well, imagine how frustrating it is as a fan to watch the OC be the most predictable and boring play caller in the nation with nothing but explosive weapons and knives to cut with. Especially now with a good passing QB and speedy backs
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2010 - 1:59 AM ET #32

    Maybe they just wanted to work on other parts of the play book and not show too much. I just wanted to see Brantley drop back and let loose. He looks like he has a laser for a arm.

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    Maybe they just wanted to work on other parts of the play book and not show too much. I just wanted to see Brantley drop back and let loose. He looks like he has a laser for a arm.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2010 - 2:05 AM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:



    You sound like you have a problem with this team. 

    The RB's coach was already at UF after he left the program I played for in 05 and was on the staff at UF for the 06 Championship. 

    Name the 4 "top" receivers they lost from last year

    Really?  You didn't know.  UF's Top 5 receivers per stats of '09:
    1. Hernandez
    2. Cooper
    3. Nelson
    4. Thompson - RETURNED (along with his 28 yard per game average.  Didn't he have a bad drop last Sat?)
    5. B James


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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:



    You sound like you have a problem with this team. 

    The RB's coach was already at UF after he left the program I played for in 05 and was on the staff at UF for the 06 Championship. 

    Name the 4 "top" receivers they lost from last year

    Really?  You didn't know.  UF's Top 5 receivers per stats of '09:
    1. Hernandez
    2. Cooper
    3. Nelson
    4. Thompson - RETURNED (along with his 28 yard per game average.  Didn't he have a bad drop last Sat?)
    5. B James


     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2010 - 2:05 AM ET #34

    Well, don't worry. I think it will happen this week, and even if not this week it will def happen in SEC play. I just think a motivated UF team after a bad game is too much personnel wise for a team like USF, though talented but with a new coach. Tough spot for them
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    Well, don't worry. I think it will happen this week, and even if not this week it will def happen in SEC play. I just think a motivated UF team after a bad game is too much personnel wise for a team like USF, though talented but with a new coach. Tough spot for them
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2010 - 2:11 AM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by rjmccool:


    Really?  You didn't know.  UF's Top 5 receivers per stats of '09:
    1. Hernandez
    2. Cooper
    3. Nelson
    4. Thompson - RETURNED (along with his 28 yard per game average.  Didn't he have a bad drop last Sat?)
    5. B James




    I am well aware, and aware that you just named 2 WR's and a TE/Z position

    Nelson never contributed anything in his time there worth missing, he was a good blocking WR and understood how to get to his landmarks and create spacing. Brandon James was rarely ever used offensively and when he was it made no sense, for some reason they used him more in the latter stages of last year. Deonte has made more big plays than Nelson even as a younger guy the last two years. Carl Moore missing last year was a BIG loss. Riley Cooper is missed the most out of the WR's, Hernandez played a different role but was a beast obviously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjmccool:


    Really?  You didn't know.  UF's Top 5 receivers per stats of '09:
    1. Hernandez
    2. Cooper
    3. Nelson
    4. Thompson - RETURNED (along with his 28 yard per game average.  Didn't he have a bad drop last Sat?)
    5. B James




    I am well aware, and aware that you just named 2 WR's and a TE/Z position

    Nelson never contributed anything in his time there worth missing, he was a good blocking WR and understood how to get to his landmarks and create spacing. Brandon James was rarely ever used offensively and when he was it made no sense, for some reason they used him more in the latter stages of last year. Deonte has made more big plays than Nelson even as a younger guy the last two years. Carl Moore missing last year was a BIG loss. Riley Cooper is missed the most out of the WR's, Hernandez played a different role but was a beast obviously.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2010 - 2:12 AM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    Well, don't worry. I think it will happen this week, and even if not this week it will def happen in SEC play. I just think a motivated UF team after a bad game is too much personnel wise for a team like USF, though talented but with a new coach. Tough spot for them

    Who?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    Well, don't worry. I think it will happen this week, and even if not this week it will def happen in SEC play. I just think a motivated UF team after a bad game is too much personnel wise for a team like USF, though talented but with a new coach. Tough spot for them

    Who?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2010 - 2:20 AM ET #37

    wat
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    wat
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2010 - 2:35 AM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:



    I am well aware, and aware that you just named 2 WR's and a TE/Z position

    Nelson never contributed anything in his time there worth missing, he was a good blocking WR and understood how to get to his landmarks and create spacing. Brandon James was rarely ever used offensively and when he was it made no sense, for some reason they used him more in the latter stages of last year. Deonte has made more big plays than Nelson even as a younger guy the last two years. Carl Moore missing last year was a BIG loss. Riley Cooper is missed the most out of the WR's, Hernandez played a different role but was a beast obviously.

    I don't care what position they played they were the Top 5 receivers.  Against Miami OH your TE and Z caught TDs.  Neither of your WRs did.  As for Carl Moore missing last year, did he miss the opener as well or did he just get blanked?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:



    I am well aware, and aware that you just named 2 WR's and a TE/Z position

    Nelson never contributed anything in his time there worth missing, he was a good blocking WR and understood how to get to his landmarks and create spacing. Brandon James was rarely ever used offensively and when he was it made no sense, for some reason they used him more in the latter stages of last year. Deonte has made more big plays than Nelson even as a younger guy the last two years. Carl Moore missing last year was a BIG loss. Riley Cooper is missed the most out of the WR's, Hernandez played a different role but was a beast obviously.

    I don't care what position they played they were the Top 5 receivers.  Against Miami OH your TE and Z caught TDs.  Neither of your WRs did.  As for Carl Moore missing last year, did he miss the opener as well or did he just get blanked?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2010 - 2:48 AM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by kason1983:

    l0l thats what i was thinking .....Florida is more athletic and all they been hearing is how terrible they are... statment game saturday...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kason1983:

    l0l thats what i was thinking .....Florida is more athletic and all they been hearing is how terrible they are... statment game saturday...
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2010 - 2:59 AM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by rjmccool:


    I don't care what position they played they were the Top 5 receivers.  Against Miami OH your TE and Z caught TDs.  Neither of your WRs did.  As for Carl Moore missing last year, did he miss the opener as well or did he just get blanked?


    You sound like a Miami fan I know, you obviously hate Florida and want them to fail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjmccool:


    I don't care what position they played they were the Top 5 receivers.  Against Miami OH your TE and Z caught TDs.  Neither of your WRs did.  As for Carl Moore missing last year, did he miss the opener as well or did he just get blanked?


    You sound like a Miami fan I know, you obviously hate Florida and want them to fail.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2010 - 3:00 AM ET #41

    When a game looks to easy it never is.After last weeks offensive poor performance against Miami(Ohio) who themselves rushed for only 4 yards and had the worst offense output of any team last week.Florida will most likely get the offense back on track but I like So Florida with the points,they will run the ball.Total yards going into the 4th quarter for Florida last week was hard to imagine.Florida ended up with 99 yards rushing but I think 72 of them was from one play.So Florida rushed for 180 yards last week and I know it was against Stony Brook.
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    When a game looks to easy it never is.After last weeks offensive poor performance against Miami(Ohio) who themselves rushed for only 4 yards and had the worst offense output of any team last week.Florida will most likely get the offense back on track but I like So Florida with the points,they will run the ball.Total yards going into the 4th quarter for Florida last week was hard to imagine.Florida ended up with 99 yards rushing but I think 72 of them was from one play.So Florida rushed for 180 yards last week and I know it was against Stony Brook.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2010 - 3:17 AM ET #42

    I think most of us on this thread look at at a line and try to figure out how they came out with the number they gave us.  UF's struggles suggest a lower than expected line, but what does that say about USF's last perfomance?  Do they assume the betting public didnt see that one?  Are we making assumptions on what we know about USF in the past as a dog?  I dont know, but the line seems light based on my thoughts about USF coming into this year.  I jumped on UF myself.

    BOL

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    I think most of us on this thread look at at a line and try to figure out how they came out with the number they gave us.  UF's struggles suggest a lower than expected line, but what does that say about USF's last perfomance?  Do they assume the betting public didnt see that one?  Are we making assumptions on what we know about USF in the past as a dog?  I dont know, but the line seems light based on my thoughts about USF coming into this year.  I jumped on UF myself.

    BOL

     
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    Posted: Sep. 8, 2010 - 3:49 AM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:



    You sound like a Miami fan I know, you obviously hate Florida and want them to fail.

    What annoys me is your arrogant thinking that UF won't miss a beat despite all the production lost.  You guys will be elite again real soon, but not this year.  So what if I think USF w/ 10 starters back on offense and an upgraded staff will cover 15.5.  I thought so before the debacle of last week.  UF will probably pull it out.  Since you think UF will win by infinity, please divulge how so I can retool my thinking if necessary.  

    And yes, I am a Canes fan.  But I don't root against UF because they don't need my help to lose.  You guys haven't gone undefeated once in school history.  We have 3 times.  Yes, your hyper-recent success is undeniable, but that was a hiccup in the history of cfb.  Miami is modern cfb.  5 titles and 8 title games in 27 years culminating with what might have been the best team ever in '01.  A record 58 game home winning streak.  100+ weeks and counting in which a Cane has scored a TD in the NFL.  We strung together the dynasty playing anyone anywhere anytime, and we still go head to head with whoever wherever whenever.  Since you hoes dropped us you still haven't played anyone West of the Mississippi.  Look it up. While you guys were busy playing football, we were changing it.  Doubt they'll make a documentary about UFag. The best part, however, is we're all the way back.  You won your 1st title while we were on probation, won your others while we were rebuilding.  You should thank us for allowing that.  We're the past, the present, and the future.  Saturday will show what's what. You might pull out a win at home vs USF for the third place program in FL.  Who knows?  Who cares?  The rest of the nation will already be tuned in for the resurrection of The U co-starring Ohio St.    
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:



    You sound like a Miami fan I know, you obviously hate Florida and want them to fail.

    What annoys me is your arrogant thinking that UF won't miss a beat despite all the production lost.  You guys will be elite again real soon, but not this year.  So what if I think USF w/ 10 starters back on offense and an upgraded staff will cover 15.5.  I thought so before the debacle of last week.  UF will probably pull it out.  Since you think UF will win by infinity, please divulge how so I can retool my thinking if necessary.  

    And yes, I am a Canes fan.  But I don't root against UF because they don't need my help to lose.  You guys haven't gone undefeated once in school history.  We have 3 times.  Yes, your hyper-recent success is undeniable, but that was a hiccup in the history of cfb.  Miami is modern cfb.  5 titles and 8 title games in 27 years culminating with what might have been the best team ever in '01.  A record 58 game home winning streak.  100+ weeks and counting in which a Cane has scored a TD in the NFL.  We strung together the dynasty playing anyone anywhere anytime, and we still go head to head with whoever wherever whenever.  Since you hoes dropped us you still haven't played anyone West of the Mississippi.  Look it up. While you guys were busy playing football, we were changing it.  Doubt they'll make a documentary about UFag. The best part, however, is we're all the way back.  You won your 1st title while we were on probation, won your others while we were rebuilding.  You should thank us for allowing that.  We're the past, the present, and the future.  Saturday will show what's what. You might pull out a win at home vs USF for the third place program in FL.  Who knows?  Who cares?  The rest of the nation will already be tuned in for the resurrection of The U co-starring Ohio St.    
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1lsu:

    I think most of us on this thread look at at a line and try to figure out how they came out with the number they gave us.  UF's struggles suggest a lower than expected line, but what does that say about USF's last perfomance?  Do they assume the betting public didnt see that one?  Are we making assumptions on what we know about USF in the past as a dog?  I dont know, but the line seems light based on my thoughts about USF coming into this year.  I jumped on UF myself.

    BOL


    You're right, my bad.  Got caught up.  In my estimation anything over 2 TDs is too much.  And I thought so before Miami (OH) b/c of how much UF lost, and b/c of how much USF brought back (10 starters on offense) while nabbing a very good coach.   
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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1lsu:

    I think most of us on this thread look at at a line and try to figure out how they came out with the number they gave us.  UF's struggles suggest a lower than expected line, but what does that say about USF's last perfomance?  Do they assume the betting public didnt see that one?  Are we making assumptions on what we know about USF in the past as a dog?  I dont know, but the line seems light based on my thoughts about USF coming into this year.  I jumped on UF myself.

    BOL


    You're right, my bad.  Got caught up.  In my estimation anything over 2 TDs is too much.  And I thought so before Miami (OH) b/c of how much UF lost, and b/c of how much USF brought back (10 starters on offense) while nabbing a very good coach.   
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjmccool:


    What annoys me is your arrogant thinking that UF won't miss a beat despite all the production lost.  You guys will be elite again real soon, but not this year.  So what if I think USF w/ 10 starters back on offense and an upgraded staff will cover 15.5.  I thought so before the debacle of last week.  UF will probably pull it out.  Since you think UF will win by infinity, please divulge how so I can retool my thinking if necessary.  

    And yes, I am a Canes fan.  But I don't root against UF because they don't need my help to lose.  You guys haven't gone undefeated once in school history.  We have 3 times.  Yes, your hyper-recent success is undeniable, but that was a hiccup in the history of cfb.  Miami is modern cfb.  5 titles and 8 title games in 27 years culminating with what might have been the best team ever in '01.  A record 58 game home winning streak.  100+ weeks and counting in which a Cane has scored a TD in the NFL.  We strung together the dynasty playing anyone anywhere anytime, and we still go head to head with whoever wherever whenever.  Since you hoes dropped us you still haven't played anyone West of the Mississippi.  Look it up. While you guys were busy playing football, we were changing it.  Doubt they'll make a documentary about UFag. The best part, however, is we're all the way back.  You won your 1st title while we were on probation, won your others while we were rebuilding.  You should thank us for allowing that.  We're the past, the present, and the future.  Saturday will show what's what. You might pull out a win at home vs USF for the third place program in FL.  Who knows?  Who cares?  The rest of the nation will already be tuned in for the resurrection of The U co-starring Ohio St.    


    I had to stop reading there because your blatant bashing of UF has only shown instead of talking about capping the game itself. You are shooting down everything about them in hate rather than being objective at all when we could actually talk football. Im not that kind of fan at all, lol I have played ball all my life and am still playing now out of college. I make a good extra penny betting these games, you are talking to me like a blatant ignorant homer of my favorite team which is the furthest from the case. I am acting like what? Im acting like UF is good enough with what is there this year and staff wise to take care of business against a Big East team at home after being doubted and getting up to be the best team in Florida against a team that says they can not only play with them, but beat them. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjmccool:


    What annoys me is your arrogant thinking that UF won't miss a beat despite all the production lost.  You guys will be elite again real soon, but not this year.  So what if I think USF w/ 10 starters back on offense and an upgraded staff will cover 15.5.  I thought so before the debacle of last week.  UF will probably pull it out.  Since you think UF will win by infinity, please divulge how so I can retool my thinking if necessary.  

    And yes, I am a Canes fan.  But I don't root against UF because they don't need my help to lose.  You guys haven't gone undefeated once in school history.  We have 3 times.  Yes, your hyper-recent success is undeniable, but that was a hiccup in the history of cfb.  Miami is modern cfb.  5 titles and 8 title games in 27 years culminating with what might have been the best team ever in '01.  A record 58 game home winning streak.  100+ weeks and counting in which a Cane has scored a TD in the NFL.  We strung together the dynasty playing anyone anywhere anytime, and we still go head to head with whoever wherever whenever.  Since you hoes dropped us you still haven't played anyone West of the Mississippi.  Look it up. While you guys were busy playing football, we were changing it.  Doubt they'll make a documentary about UFag. The best part, however, is we're all the way back.  You won your 1st title while we were on probation, won your others while we were rebuilding.  You should thank us for allowing that.  We're the past, the present, and the future.  Saturday will show what's what. You might pull out a win at home vs USF for the third place program in FL.  Who knows?  Who cares?  The rest of the nation will already be tuned in for the resurrection of The U co-starring Ohio St.    


    I had to stop reading there because your blatant bashing of UF has only shown instead of talking about capping the game itself. You are shooting down everything about them in hate rather than being objective at all when we could actually talk football. Im not that kind of fan at all, lol I have played ball all my life and am still playing now out of college. I make a good extra penny betting these games, you are talking to me like a blatant ignorant homer of my favorite team which is the furthest from the case. I am acting like what? Im acting like UF is good enough with what is there this year and staff wise to take care of business against a Big East team at home after being doubted and getting up to be the best team in Florida against a team that says they can not only play with them, but beat them. 
     
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    lol and Miami will lose to Ohio State, all you Miami fans are the same. Exactly the same. Jacory gags on his own dick like every other black qb when he faces even a decent defense, since the ACC has no defenses everyone thinks he is a beast. Until they got blasted by VT last year, everyone was actually ignorant enough to be duped, and duped they were that they were dumb enough to think a team was legit because they beat two of the worst defenses imaginable the first two games of the year in FSU and GT. When FSU and GT played each other after Miami was embarrassed by an always average VT team, everyone realized they both had arena ball defenses and well Miami was bye bye. They will get mangled this weekend physically like they did against Wisconsin in the bowl game, except this time, they are playing a much better defense and certainly a much better offense as a whole. good luck with that "payback" I keep hearing about for 2002. LOL
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    lol and Miami will lose to Ohio State, all you Miami fans are the same. Exactly the same. Jacory gags on his own dick like every other black qb when he faces even a decent defense, since the ACC has no defenses everyone thinks he is a beast. Until they got blasted by VT last year, everyone was actually ignorant enough to be duped, and duped they were that they were dumb enough to think a team was legit because they beat two of the worst defenses imaginable the first two games of the year in FSU and GT. When FSU and GT played each other after Miami was embarrassed by an always average VT team, everyone realized they both had arena ball defenses and well Miami was bye bye. They will get mangled this weekend physically like they did against Wisconsin in the bowl game, except this time, they are playing a much better defense and certainly a much better offense as a whole. good luck with that "payback" I keep hearing about for 2002. LOL
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:



    I had to stop reading there because your blatant bashing of UF has only shown instead of talking about capping the game itself. You are shooting down everything about them in hate rather than being objective at all when we could actually talk football. Im not that kind of fan at all, lol I have played ball all my life and am still playing now out of college. I make a good extra penny betting these games, you are talking to me like a blatant ignorant homer of my favorite team which is the furthest from the case. I am acting like what? Im acting like UF is good enough with what is there this year and staff wise to take care of business against a Big East team at home after being doubted and getting up to be the best team in Florida against a team that says they can not only play with them, but beat them. 

    Okay.  I already gave you my rundown on why USF will play them tight.  To repeat, UF is devoid of proven playmakers.  I don't expect them to be as bad as they were last week, but I don't expect them to totally flip the script either.  Their play calling is inept and they have the wrong players for the system we saw on Sat.  Across from them will be a Bulls D that lost some name players, but still has a lot of talent.  DTs Terrel McClain and Keith McKaskill can clog up the middle if UF tries power.  More likely, UF will throw it downfield mixing in Rainey and Demps on the edge.  USF's LBs and DEs are fast enough to keep up, heck Mia OH was able to own the edges, and what I'm banking on from Holtz is discipline and tackling fundamentals.  The USF defenders only need to get a hand on Demps/Rainey to bring em down.  USF's secondary is their defensive strength, and with UF's average receivers, I see Brantley, still a baby, having to make throws into tight windows.  Can he?  Yes.  Will it happen in his 2nd start?  I doubt it.  

    When USF has the ball, they're employing a crafty QB with good WRs, above average RBs, and above all a stellar, veteran o-line that returns all 5 from last year.  Holtz wants to play power football, and I think that's the best way to attack UF's D as it's predicated on speed.  If running right at UF doesn't work, USF won't fold up shop. They'll revert to a passing game which moves Daniels around and puts pressure on the back 7 to stay disciplined.  UF has a good back 7, but they also have a few very young guys in very big roles. I expect Daniels to exploit Bostic and/or Jelani Jenkins, Brown, and when UF goes nickel, Elam will get torched.  

    Special teams are what worry me most.  USF is breaking in a new punter who only got one off last week for 37 yards.  The only way I see UF blowing them out is if they're playing on a short field all day long.  

    From what I see and read, USF has an advantage in intangibles. They have nothing to lose and if things start to go wrong for UF, they might panic after last week.  UF is supposed to win, and they know it, so if it's a tight game, I think the Gators might get tight too, especially Brantley.  Of course The Swamp will be load, but USF has a Remington candidate at center who will make sure his guys get the right calls.

    Overall, UF is more talented, but so much of that talent has yet to grow up.  USF has talent too, but it's also a very mature team.  The key guy on either side is Brantley.  If he steps it up, gets everyone involved, USF will lose and maybe lose big.  But I'll put my money on BJ Daniels, a fearless, tougher than nails dual threat.                 
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:



    I had to stop reading there because your blatant bashing of UF has only shown instead of talking about capping the game itself. You are shooting down everything about them in hate rather than being objective at all when we could actually talk football. Im not that kind of fan at all, lol I have played ball all my life and am still playing now out of college. I make a good extra penny betting these games, you are talking to me like a blatant ignorant homer of my favorite team which is the furthest from the case. I am acting like what? Im acting like UF is good enough with what is there this year and staff wise to take care of business against a Big East team at home after being doubted and getting up to be the best team in Florida against a team that says they can not only play with them, but beat them. 

    Okay.  I already gave you my rundown on why USF will play them tight.  To repeat, UF is devoid of proven playmakers.  I don't expect them to be as bad as they were last week, but I don't expect them to totally flip the script either.  Their play calling is inept and they have the wrong players for the system we saw on Sat.  Across from them will be a Bulls D that lost some name players, but still has a lot of talent.  DTs Terrel McClain and Keith McKaskill can clog up the middle if UF tries power.  More likely, UF will throw it downfield mixing in Rainey and Demps on the edge.  USF's LBs and DEs are fast enough to keep up, heck Mia OH was able to own the edges, and what I'm banking on from Holtz is discipline and tackling fundamentals.  The USF defenders only need to get a hand on Demps/Rainey to bring em down.  USF's secondary is their defensive strength, and with UF's average receivers, I see Brantley, still a baby, having to make throws into tight windows.  Can he?  Yes.  Will it happen in his 2nd start?  I doubt it.  

    When USF has the ball, they're employing a crafty QB with good WRs, above average RBs, and above all a stellar, veteran o-line that returns all 5 from last year.  Holtz wants to play power football, and I think that's the best way to attack UF's D as it's predicated on speed.  If running right at UF doesn't work, USF won't fold up shop. They'll revert to a passing game which moves Daniels around and puts pressure on the back 7 to stay disciplined.  UF has a good back 7, but they also have a few very young guys in very big roles. I expect Daniels to exploit Bostic and/or Jelani Jenkins, Brown, and when UF goes nickel, Elam will get torched.  

    Special teams are what worry me most.  USF is breaking in a new punter who only got one off last week for 37 yards.  The only way I see UF blowing them out is if they're playing on a short field all day long.  

    From what I see and read, USF has an advantage in intangibles. They have nothing to lose and if things start to go wrong for UF, they might panic after last week.  UF is supposed to win, and they know it, so if it's a tight game, I think the Gators might get tight too, especially Brantley.  Of course The Swamp will be load, but USF has a Remington candidate at center who will make sure his guys get the right calls.

    Overall, UF is more talented, but so much of that talent has yet to grow up.  USF has talent too, but it's also a very mature team.  The key guy on either side is Brantley.  If he steps it up, gets everyone involved, USF will lose and maybe lose big.  But I'll put my money on BJ Daniels, a fearless, tougher than nails dual threat.                 
     
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    you are underestimating Brantley so bad, its just plain unreal. Tebow couldn't even simply read a defense and he is thought of as one of the "greats" in all of college football.
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    you are underestimating Brantley so bad, its just plain unreal. Tebow couldn't even simply read a defense and he is thought of as one of the "greats" in all of college football.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    lol and Miami will lose to Ohio State, all you Miami fans are the same. Exactly the same. Jacory gags on his own dick like every other black qb when he faces even a decent defense, since the ACC has no defenses everyone thinks he is a beast. Until they got blasted by VT last year, everyone was actually ignorant enough to be duped, and duped they were that they were dumb enough to think a team was legit because they beat two of the worst defenses imaginable the first two games of the year in FSU and GT. When FSU and GT played each other after Miami was embarrassed by an always average VT team, everyone realized they both had arena ball defenses and well Miami was bye bye. They will get mangled this weekend physically like they did against Wisconsin in the bowl game, except this time, they are playing a much better defense and certainly a much better offense as a whole. good luck with that "payback" I keep hearing about for 2002. LOL
    I was with you until you brought that Black QB bullshit into this forum. The last time I looked, it's more white QB's in the league than Black QB's. But, I wouldn't be dumb or ignorant enough to say 90% of the White QB's would chock on their  dick's. Please be respectful to the forum. finally, we are here to "MAKE MONEY", people can have a difference of opinions and then make rational decisions.  Good Luck to all.  Da Pun. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    lol and Miami will lose to Ohio State, all you Miami fans are the same. Exactly the same. Jacory gags on his own dick like every other black qb when he faces even a decent defense, since the ACC has no defenses everyone thinks he is a beast. Until they got blasted by VT last year, everyone was actually ignorant enough to be duped, and duped they were that they were dumb enough to think a team was legit because they beat two of the worst defenses imaginable the first two games of the year in FSU and GT. When FSU and GT played each other after Miami was embarrassed by an always average VT team, everyone realized they both had arena ball defenses and well Miami was bye bye. They will get mangled this weekend physically like they did against Wisconsin in the bowl game, except this time, they are playing a much better defense and certainly a much better offense as a whole. good luck with that "payback" I keep hearing about for 2002. LOL
    I was with you until you brought that Black QB bullshit into this forum. The last time I looked, it's more white QB's in the league than Black QB's. But, I wouldn't be dumb or ignorant enough to say 90% of the White QB's would chock on their  dick's. Please be respectful to the forum. finally, we are here to "MAKE MONEY", people can have a difference of opinions and then make rational decisions.  Good Luck to all.  Da Pun. 
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    lol and Miami will lose to Ohio State, all you Miami fans are the same. Exactly the same. Jacory gags on his own dick like every other black qb when he faces even a decent defense, since the ACC has no defenses everyone thinks he is a beast. Until they got blasted by VT last year, everyone was actually ignorant enough to be duped, and duped they were that they were dumb enough to think a team was legit because they beat two of the worst defenses imaginable the first two games of the year in FSU and GT. When FSU and GT played each other after Miami was embarrassed by an always average VT team, everyone realized they both had arena ball defenses and well Miami was bye bye. They will get mangled this weekend physically like they did against Wisconsin in the bowl game, except this time, they are playing a much better defense and certainly a much better offense as a whole. good luck with that "payback" I keep hearing about for 2002. LOL


    "Jacory gags on his own dick like every other black qb"

    Wow.  In this day and age, we have to deal with a bigot, and not just that, a quarterback bigot.  Sad.  I thought this was cleared up a long time ago, at least as far back as Doug Williams winning a Super Bowl.  Just sad. Wait a second.  Isn't UF backup Trey Burton black?  Will he, as you so eloquently espoused, gag on his own dick?  I'm sure if you thought so you'd say it to his face.  I'm also wondering, what's it like wearing a white sheet over your head?  Is it itchy?  Do you throw it on your donkey's head when you plunder his ass?  Hey Wheels, let me guess, you don't like Obama, do you?  What a sick douchebag you are brotha'.  Seek help.           
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

    lol and Miami will lose to Ohio State, all you Miami fans are the same. Exactly the same. Jacory gags on his own dick like every other black qb when he faces even a decent defense, since the ACC has no defenses everyone thinks he is a beast. Until they got blasted by VT last year, everyone was actually ignorant enough to be duped, and duped they were that they were dumb enough to think a team was legit because they beat two of the worst defenses imaginable the first two games of the year in FSU and GT. When FSU and GT played each other after Miami was embarrassed by an always average VT team, everyone realized they both had arena ball defenses and well Miami was bye bye. They will get mangled this weekend physically like they did against Wisconsin in the bowl game, except this time, they are playing a much better defense and certainly a much better offense as a whole. good luck with that "payback" I keep hearing about for 2002. LOL


    "Jacory gags on his own dick like every other black qb"

    Wow.  In this day and age, we have to deal with a bigot, and not just that, a quarterback bigot.  Sad.  I thought this was cleared up a long time ago, at least as far back as Doug Williams winning a Super Bowl.  Just sad. Wait a second.  Isn't UF backup Trey Burton black?  Will he, as you so eloquently espoused, gag on his own dick?  I'm sure if you thought so you'd say it to his face.  I'm also wondering, what's it like wearing a white sheet over your head?  Is it itchy?  Do you throw it on your donkey's head when you plunder his ass?  Hey Wheels, let me guess, you don't like Obama, do you?  What a sick douchebag you are brotha'.  Seek help.           
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