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    Tulsa Vs UCF 3/11/2011 Write-up

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    Laroja
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2011 - 5:30 PM ET #1

    I've been doing research on this game for a while now and I think I'll have a good handle on the outcome of the game. I've been pretty cold as of late to take what I say with a grain of salt. However this will be a 3 unit play and I'm 4-1 on those with a recent loss on Clemson -4 last Saturday.

    Let's take a look at the composition of both Tulsa and UCF. Tulsa returns 19 starters from last year with 10 on offense 8 on defense and 1 on special teams. They still run the same spread offense with Kinne and uses a 4-3 formation on defense. Unfortunately their star player Damaris Johnson is out before the season started due to "academic issues". Tulsa is 5-3 straight up and 4-4 ATS. Wins include 38-7 SMU and all the loses came from top ten FBS teams such as Boise, Oklahoma State and Oklahoma. Tulsa is 38th in their SOS and was as high as #8. Tulsa commits 5.3 penalties a game on average and has an awful rate of turnovers. I expect Tulsa to turn the ball over at least twice tonight against UCF.

    UCF comes into the season with 11 returning starters with 6 on offense, 1 on special teams and only 4 returning starters on defense. UCF also runs a 4-3 defense and utilizes different sets on offense ( pro style, split backs etc). Godfrey is a mobile quarterback who makes more plays with his feet than his arm. UCF is 4-4 straight up and 3-5 against the spread. With wins against BC, Charles Southern, Marshall and Memphis. Loses include 17-38 to SMU, 24-26 to UAB . 10-17 to FLINT and 17-24 to BYU. All the losses were on the road and a key stat is that UAB outgained UCF 501-331 yards while dominating the time of possessions. Yes that's right offensively inepted UAB without a win prior to playing UCF beat UCF as a 18.5 point dog. UCF has a SOS of 109 out of 120 FBS teams.

    In conclusion I expect Tulsa to give UCF's inexperienced defense fits with their spread offense. Even though Tulsa gives up the rock a lot, the turnover margin between the 2 teams are very similar. With Tulsa at -0.4 and UCF at 0.3. Tulsa offense is clearly superior and even though UCF boats far better defensive numbers, I'm not sold on UCF because of their SOS. I don't like to play road teams during the evening. But I do like Tulsa +1.5/2. I will be locking in as gametime approaches, in hope for a better line. Gl on whatever you bet 

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    I've been doing research on this game for a while now and I think I'll have a good handle on the outcome of the game. I've been pretty cold as of late to take what I say with a grain of salt. However this will be a 3 unit play and I'm 4-1 on those with a recent loss on Clemson -4 last Saturday.

    Let's take a look at the composition of both Tulsa and UCF. Tulsa returns 19 starters from last year with 10 on offense 8 on defense and 1 on special teams. They still run the same spread offense with Kinne and uses a 4-3 formation on defense. Unfortunately their star player Damaris Johnson is out before the season started due to "academic issues". Tulsa is 5-3 straight up and 4-4 ATS. Wins include 38-7 SMU and all the loses came from top ten FBS teams such as Boise, Oklahoma State and Oklahoma. Tulsa is 38th in their SOS and was as high as #8. Tulsa commits 5.3 penalties a game on average and has an awful rate of turnovers. I expect Tulsa to turn the ball over at least twice tonight against UCF.

    UCF comes into the season with 11 returning starters with 6 on offense, 1 on special teams and only 4 returning starters on defense. UCF also runs a 4-3 defense and utilizes different sets on offense ( pro style, split backs etc). Godfrey is a mobile quarterback who makes more plays with his feet than his arm. UCF is 4-4 straight up and 3-5 against the spread. With wins against BC, Charles Southern, Marshall and Memphis. Loses include 17-38 to SMU, 24-26 to UAB . 10-17 to FLINT and 17-24 to BYU. All the losses were on the road and a key stat is that UAB outgained UCF 501-331 yards while dominating the time of possessions. Yes that's right offensively inepted UAB without a win prior to playing UCF beat UCF as a 18.5 point dog. UCF has a SOS of 109 out of 120 FBS teams.

    In conclusion I expect Tulsa to give UCF's inexperienced defense fits with their spread offense. Even though Tulsa gives up the rock a lot, the turnover margin between the 2 teams are very similar. With Tulsa at -0.4 and UCF at 0.3. Tulsa offense is clearly superior and even though UCF boats far better defensive numbers, I'm not sold on UCF because of their SOS. I don't like to play road teams during the evening. But I do like Tulsa +1.5/2. I will be locking in as gametime approaches, in hope for a better line. Gl on whatever you bet 

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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2011 - 5:34 PM ET #3

    Very nice write up bol
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2011 - 5:38 PM ET #4

    Thanks a lot KOG
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2011 - 5:39 PM ET #6

    Im blind now.... But i love Tulsa...GL..
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2011 - 5:42 PM ET #7

    What do returning starters have to do with anything? The year is 3/4 done.

    I think you can throw those losses to BYU and UAB out. They were tough spots for UCF on the road in weeknight games on short rest. This week they finally have the schedule in their favor while it's Tulsa that has to have a long flight and play a road game on just 4 days rest.

    Just my .02.
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    What do returning starters have to do with anything? The year is 3/4 done.

    I think you can throw those losses to BYU and UAB out. They were tough spots for UCF on the road in weeknight games on short rest. This week they finally have the schedule in their favor while it's Tulsa that has to have a long flight and play a road game on just 4 days rest.

    Just my .02.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2011 - 5:43 PM ET #8

    Beautiful write up!  Love where your heads at Laroja!!

    Let's get em tonight.. BOL coz we'll need for this game 
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    Beautiful write up!  Love where your heads at Laroja!!

    Let's get em tonight.. BOL coz we'll need for this game 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2011 - 5:44 PM ET #9

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    tinoker: Sorry about that. I was trying to be clever. I put the yellow/gold fonts on the tulsa write-up because they are the "golden hurricanes" and green for UCF because their team color is green lol.
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    tinoker: Sorry about that. I was trying to be clever. I put the yellow/gold fonts on the tulsa write-up because they are the "golden hurricanes" and green for UCF because their team color is green lol.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2011 - 5:46 PM ET #10

    You make me star to rethink about my ufc now lol.... I scare it will happen like last nite when I change my bet , but you do have a very nice write up , uhmmm let me think should I down grade my bet now lol....
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    You make me star to rethink about my ufc now lol.... I scare it will happen like last nite when I change my bet , but you do have a very nice write up , uhmmm let me think should I down grade my bet now lol....
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2011 - 5:46 PM ET #11

    on the other side but as always gl
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2011 - 5:48 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by andarmac99:

    What do returning starters have to do with anything? The year is 3/4 done.

    I think you can throw those losses to BYU and UAB out. They were tough spots for UCF on the road in weeknight games on short rest. This week they finally have the schedule in their favor while it's Tulsa that has to have a long flight and play a road game on just 4 days rest.

    Just my .02.


    I forgot to mention that Tulsa has to travel about 1000 miles or something like that to Orlando. Not too worried about the travel time though. And starters do matter, just look the UCF from this year to the UCF from last year. It's a huge downgrade, especially offensively. Both teams have 4 days rest, but yeah Tulsa needs to travel abroad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andarmac99:

    What do returning starters have to do with anything? The year is 3/4 done.

    I think you can throw those losses to BYU and UAB out. They were tough spots for UCF on the road in weeknight games on short rest. This week they finally have the schedule in their favor while it's Tulsa that has to have a long flight and play a road game on just 4 days rest.

    Just my .02.


    I forgot to mention that Tulsa has to travel about 1000 miles or something like that to Orlando. Not too worried about the travel time though. And starters do matter, just look the UCF from this year to the UCF from last year. It's a huge downgrade, especially offensively. Both teams have 4 days rest, but yeah Tulsa needs to travel abroad.
     
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    gl tonight...
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    Gl everyone. But yeah I really appreciate discussion on this game. More discussion will likely make this game a bit clearer.
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    Gl everyone. But yeah I really appreciate discussion on this game. More discussion will likely make this game a bit clearer.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2011 - 5:55 PM ET #16

    Nice write up, but the gold color got to go, having hard time reading that one.
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2011 - 5:57 PM ET #17

    i still dont understand why ucf is favored on this game
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner005:

    Nice write up, but the gold color got to go, having hard time reading that one.


    I was tripping out reading it. It looks like the gold sinks back in the screen and the purple is right in front of my face.


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    Quote Originally Posted by winner005:

    Nice write up, but the gold color got to go, having hard time reading that one.


    I was tripping out reading it. It looks like the gold sinks back in the screen and the purple is right in front of my face.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2011 - 6:08 PM ET #19

    You are right on with this pick IMO. Good luck to us!
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    Haha sorry about that guys
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2011 - 6:11 PM ET #21

    Ouch!  I don't like being opposite you on this one, but I will route hard for my other plays.  

     

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    Ouch!  I don't like being opposite you on this one, but I will route hard for my other plays.  

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2011 - 6:13 PM ET #22

    Ahhhhh I was leaning heavy on UCF.... now you have me thinking! Probably going to stick with it but risk less!

    Goodluck! 
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2011 - 6:15 PM ET #23

    BOL but hard to say anyone is 'inexperienced' 10 games into the season..

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    I thought UCF's colors were black, gold, and white.  Since when did they incorporate green into the color scheme of their uniforms?
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    I think you mean USF
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