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    combato
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2018 - 9:06 PM ET #51

    Here we go again

    Wise guy is going to hit 80% ATS ??

    How many estimated plays do you plan to hit 80pct.  Or even 60%

    Hit 60 % over a reasonable number of plays ( say # 100 to # 150 plays over several seasons) against the closing Pinnacle number?   That would be impressive.

    But I guess we can just trust you to tell us how well you did.  

    Sure.
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    Here we go again

    Wise guy is going to hit 80% ATS ??

    How many estimated plays do you plan to hit 80pct.  Or even 60%

    Hit 60 % over a reasonable number of plays ( say # 100 to # 150 plays over several seasons) against the closing Pinnacle number?   That would be impressive.

    But I guess we can just trust you to tell us how well you did.  

    Sure.
     
    combato
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2018 - 9:08 PM ET #52

    Here we go again

    Wise guy is going to hit 80% ATS ??

    How many estimated plays do you plan to hit 80pct.  Or even 60%

    Hit 60 % over a reasonable number of plays ( say # 100 to # 150 plays over several seasons) against the closing Pinnacle number?   That would be impressive.

    But I guess we can just trust you to tell us how well you did.  

    Sure.
    Reply
    Here we go again

    Wise guy is going to hit 80% ATS ??

    How many estimated plays do you plan to hit 80pct.  Or even 60%

    Hit 60 % over a reasonable number of plays ( say # 100 to # 150 plays over several seasons) against the closing Pinnacle number?   That would be impressive.

    But I guess we can just trust you to tell us how well you did.  

    Sure.
     
    WISEGUY36
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2018 - 9:23 PM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Hate to turn on you Wise, but you never posted your bowl picks. You said you had such good numbers there was no need to post them as they were no longer available. Then, after the games were over you claimed 8 out of 9. 
    That's not going to fly in the forum here especially if you do the same starting week one, claiming outstanding wins after the games are over! 
    Your going to get blasted dude. Just saying.




    My plays were posted to my Bowl thread in the
    following Posts

    #1 , 2 , 7 .9, 27 , 53 , 79 , 81 , 83 , 85 , 103 , 119 ,
    124 , 131 , 144 , 148 , 150 , 153 , 154 , 163 , 185 ,

    I posted them days / weeks  before they were played. Go Back and read the whole thread.


    I'm really disappointed that you would post that
    without checking it out thoroughly first.
    Helping Kama'aina to beat their " Local " since 1994.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Hate to turn on you Wise, but you never posted your bowl picks. You said you had such good numbers there was no need to post them as they were no longer available. Then, after the games were over you claimed 8 out of 9. 
    That's not going to fly in the forum here especially if you do the same starting week one, claiming outstanding wins after the games are over! 
    Your going to get blasted dude. Just saying.




    My plays were posted to my Bowl thread in the
    following Posts

    #1 , 2 , 7 .9, 27 , 53 , 79 , 81 , 83 , 85 , 103 , 119 ,
    124 , 131 , 144 , 148 , 150 , 153 , 154 , 163 , 185 ,

    I posted them days / weeks  before they were played. Go Back and read the whole thread.


    I'm really disappointed that you would post that
    without checking it out thoroughly first.
     
    LoveCFB1_
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2018 - 9:25 PM ET #54

    Jeez guys, take it easy on Wise!! Its his option to post his plays or not! Its his compassion and time, not anyone else's.

    Mr. Wise, I think everyone, including myself was just really looking forward to your leans and plays to help everyone beat the books and make a little money. However, your call!

    Best of luck to you either way an_cheers

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    Jeez guys, take it easy on Wise!! Its his option to post his plays or not! Its his compassion and time, not anyone else's.

    Mr. Wise, I think everyone, including myself was just really looking forward to your leans and plays to help everyone beat the books and make a little money. However, your call!

    Best of luck to you either way an_cheers

     
    WISEGUY36
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2018 - 9:34 PM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by combato:

    Here we go again

    Wise guy is going to hit 80% ATS ??

    How many estimated plays do you plan to hit 80pct.  Or even 60%

    Hit 60 % over a reasonable number of plays ( say # 100 to # 150 plays over several seasons) against the closing Pinnacle number?   That would be impressive.

    But I guess we can just trust you to tell us how well you did.  

    Sure.




    I guess it doesn't take much to impress you then.
    I measure my projected MOV's against the actual
    final score of the game. That's the only thing that
    matters over  the long run.
    My results are based on over 100 trials.
    The difference is you are just trying to win . I am
    trying to establish win probability. Big difference.
    Helping Kama'aina to beat their " Local " since 1994.
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    Quote Originally Posted by combato:

    Here we go again

    Wise guy is going to hit 80% ATS ??

    How many estimated plays do you plan to hit 80pct.  Or even 60%

    Hit 60 % over a reasonable number of plays ( say # 100 to # 150 plays over several seasons) against the closing Pinnacle number?   That would be impressive.

    But I guess we can just trust you to tell us how well you did.  

    Sure.




    I guess it doesn't take much to impress you then.
    I measure my projected MOV's against the actual
    final score of the game. That's the only thing that
    matters over  the long run.
    My results are based on over 100 trials.
    The difference is you are just trying to win . I am
    trying to establish win probability. Big difference.
     
    WISEGUY36
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2018 - 9:39 PM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by combato:

    Here we go again

    Wise guy is going to hit 80% ATS ??

    How many estimated plays do you plan to hit 80pct.  Or even 60%

    Hit 60 % over a reasonable number of plays ( say # 100 to # 150 plays over several seasons) against the closing Pinnacle number?   That would be impressive.

    But I guess we can just trust you to tell us how well you did.  

    Sure.



    Another thing you can't seem to grasp is , I am
    establishing my Win Probability accurately so I
    can utilize Kelly for multiple plays. That means
    fewer plays but with larger wagers. It's quality
    not quantity that I'm concerned with.
    Helping Kama'aina to beat their " Local " since 1994.
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by combato:

    Here we go again

    Wise guy is going to hit 80% ATS ??

    How many estimated plays do you plan to hit 80pct.  Or even 60%

    Hit 60 % over a reasonable number of plays ( say # 100 to # 150 plays over several seasons) against the closing Pinnacle number?   That would be impressive.

    But I guess we can just trust you to tell us how well you did.  

    Sure.



    Another thing you can't seem to grasp is , I am
    establishing my Win Probability accurately so I
    can utilize Kelly for multiple plays. That means
    fewer plays but with larger wagers. It's quality
    not quantity that I'm concerned with.
     
    WISEGUY36
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2018 - 9:56 PM ET #57

    Quote Originally Posted by combato:

    Here we go again

    Wise guy is going to hit 80% ATS ??

    How many estimated plays do you plan to hit 80pct.  Or even 60%

    Hit 60 % over a reasonable number of plays ( say # 100 to # 150 plays over several seasons) against the closing Pinnacle number?   That would be impressive.

    But I guess we can just trust you to tell us how well you did.  

    Sure.




    You will never know how well I did,  
    Helping Kama'aina to beat their " Local " since 1994.
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    Quote Originally Posted by combato:

    Here we go again

    Wise guy is going to hit 80% ATS ??

    How many estimated plays do you plan to hit 80pct.  Or even 60%

    Hit 60 % over a reasonable number of plays ( say # 100 to # 150 plays over several seasons) against the closing Pinnacle number?   That would be impressive.

    But I guess we can just trust you to tell us how well you did.  

    Sure.




    You will never know how well I did,  
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2018 - 10:00 PM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36:






    Please read all 8 pages of my Bowl thread .
    Not just post # 3 .

    Then I want you to come back here and post an
    apology.

    I apologize for bringing the idiots out of the woodwork, but they would come anyways. I do not apologize for my last statement.

    Now, on your bowl thread. YES, you posted FAU, Ncst, Nwst, Bama, and MSU before the games. You did not post Troy, FIU under 50, Wisc., and Uga until mid game or after. 
    These were the teams listed in your last tally.

    But in your last tally post you left out a Lville lose, a Duke, KSU, Boise,and Mizzu win that I believe were also posted after the events. A lot of parlays mentioned.

    I really believe your a damn good handicapper. Maybe your hurried bookkeeping a bit sloppy? And I can understand your distaste for posting hard studied picks for some leaches that want to pick your bones. 

    Gonna be hard to have your cake and eat it too. Meaning hard to post success after the fact. Just saying.

    GL 
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    Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36:






    Please read all 8 pages of my Bowl thread .
    Not just post # 3 .

    Then I want you to come back here and post an
    apology.

    I apologize for bringing the idiots out of the woodwork, but they would come anyways. I do not apologize for my last statement.

    Now, on your bowl thread. YES, you posted FAU, Ncst, Nwst, Bama, and MSU before the games. You did not post Troy, FIU under 50, Wisc., and Uga until mid game or after. 
    These were the teams listed in your last tally.

    But in your last tally post you left out a Lville lose, a Duke, KSU, Boise,and Mizzu win that I believe were also posted after the events. A lot of parlays mentioned.

    I really believe your a damn good handicapper. Maybe your hurried bookkeeping a bit sloppy? And I can understand your distaste for posting hard studied picks for some leaches that want to pick your bones. 

    Gonna be hard to have your cake and eat it too. Meaning hard to post success after the fact. Just saying.

    GL 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2018 - 10:08 PM ET #59

    Interesting, but the fact of the matter is who really gives a chit. If he wants to bring an arrogancy to himself let him knock himself out. If he wants to brag about his winning plays or his percentage who cares, as it should not effect anyone's day whatsoever. This is cyber-land where you get all the bullchit and more ........ If the guy enjoys boasting let him go, because if it makes him feel good that is all that matters. It is his choice what he wants to share or not. He contributes is the only thing that should matter to the board, as the board is as quiet as I have ever seen it, and it is because of jealousy among other things that have driven many of the better posters away, at least WISEGUY36 stands in and takes the abuse that is thrown at him, and he still posts a lot of good information.

    SNITCHES end up being bitches, or end up with stitches, and in ditches! #REALITY
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    Interesting, but the fact of the matter is who really gives a chit. If he wants to bring an arrogancy to himself let him knock himself out. If he wants to brag about his winning plays or his percentage who cares, as it should not effect anyone's day whatsoever. This is cyber-land where you get all the bullchit and more ........ If the guy enjoys boasting let him go, because if it makes him feel good that is all that matters. It is his choice what he wants to share or not. He contributes is the only thing that should matter to the board, as the board is as quiet as I have ever seen it, and it is because of jealousy among other things that have driven many of the better posters away, at least WISEGUY36 stands in and takes the abuse that is thrown at him, and he still posts a lot of good information.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2018 - 10:14 PM ET #60

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:


    I apologize for bringing the idiots out of the woodwork, but they would come anyways. I do not apologize for my last statement.

    Now, on your bowl thread. YES, you posted FAU, Ncst, Nwst, Bama, and MSU before the games. You did not post Troy, FIU under 50, Wisc., and Uga until mid game or after. 
    These were the teams listed in your last tally.

    But in your last tally post you left out a Lville lose, a Duke, KSU, Boise,and Mizzu win that I believe were also posted after the events. A lot of parlays mentioned.

    I really believe your a damn good handicapper. Maybe your hurried bookkeeping a bit sloppy? And I can understand your distaste for posting hard studied picks for some leaches that want to pick your bones. 

    Gonna be hard to have your cake and eat it too. Meaning hard to post success after the fact. Just saying.

    GL 



    FIU un 50 , Wisconsin and Georgia were In game
    wagers and stated as such. They were posted to
    my thread Immediately after they were made.

    Duke , L'ville , KSU , Mizzou were not official posted
    plays Every summary posted was the same 9 plays
    and were updated accordingly.

    I'm disappointed in you. Just sayin.

    Helping Kama'aina to beat their " Local " since 1994.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:


    I apologize for bringing the idiots out of the woodwork, but they would come anyways. I do not apologize for my last statement.

    Now, on your bowl thread. YES, you posted FAU, Ncst, Nwst, Bama, and MSU before the games. You did not post Troy, FIU under 50, Wisc., and Uga until mid game or after. 
    These were the teams listed in your last tally.

    But in your last tally post you left out a Lville lose, a Duke, KSU, Boise,and Mizzu win that I believe were also posted after the events. A lot of parlays mentioned.

    I really believe your a damn good handicapper. Maybe your hurried bookkeeping a bit sloppy? And I can understand your distaste for posting hard studied picks for some leaches that want to pick your bones. 

    Gonna be hard to have your cake and eat it too. Meaning hard to post success after the fact. Just saying.

    GL 



    FIU un 50 , Wisconsin and Georgia were In game
    wagers and stated as such. They were posted to
    my thread Immediately after they were made.

    Duke , L'ville , KSU , Mizzou were not official posted
    plays Every summary posted was the same 9 plays
    and were updated accordingly.

    I'm disappointed in you. Just sayin.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2018 - 10:36 PM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:


    I apologize for bringing the idiots out of the woodwork, but they would come anyways. I do not apologize for my last statement.

    Now, on your bowl thread. YES, you posted FAU, Ncst, Nwst, Bama, and MSU before the games. You did not post Troy, FIU under 50, Wisc., and Uga until mid game or after. 
    These were the teams listed in your last tally.

    But in your last tally post you left out a Lville lose, a Duke, KSU, Boise,and Mizzu win that I believe were also posted after the events. A lot of parlays mentioned.

    I really believe your a damn good handicapper. Maybe your hurried bookkeeping a bit sloppy? And I can understand your distaste for posting hard studied picks for some leaches that want to pick your bones. 

    Gonna be hard to have your cake and eat it too. Meaning hard to post success after the fact. Just saying.

    GL 




    FIU un50 , Wisconsin , and Georgia ( in green )
    were in game wagers and were posted to my thread
    immediately after wagers were made.

    In all of my recaps ( in Blue ) only my 9 originally
    posted plays were counted to my record.These
    same plays were shown on multiple summary posts
     

    The other plays mentioned (  in red ) were plays
    made.were mentioned in my thread , but WERE NOT posted plays and WERE NOT counted towards
    my record , as well as parlays as THEY WERE
    NOT POSTED PLAYS !!!!!!!


    Helping Kama'aina to beat their " Local " since 1994.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:


    I apologize for bringing the idiots out of the woodwork, but they would come anyways. I do not apologize for my last statement.

    Now, on your bowl thread. YES, you posted FAU, Ncst, Nwst, Bama, and MSU before the games. You did not post Troy, FIU under 50, Wisc., and Uga until mid game or after. 
    These were the teams listed in your last tally.

    But in your last tally post you left out a Lville lose, a Duke, KSU, Boise,and Mizzu win that I believe were also posted after the events. A lot of parlays mentioned.

    I really believe your a damn good handicapper. Maybe your hurried bookkeeping a bit sloppy? And I can understand your distaste for posting hard studied picks for some leaches that want to pick your bones. 

    Gonna be hard to have your cake and eat it too. Meaning hard to post success after the fact. Just saying.

    GL 




    FIU un50 , Wisconsin , and Georgia ( in green )
    were in game wagers and were posted to my thread
    immediately after wagers were made.

    In all of my recaps ( in Blue ) only my 9 originally
    posted plays were counted to my record.These
    same plays were shown on multiple summary posts
     

    The other plays mentioned (  in red ) were plays
    made.were mentioned in my thread , but WERE NOT posted plays and WERE NOT counted towards
    my record , as well as parlays as THEY WERE
    NOT POSTED PLAYS !!!!!!!


     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2018 - 10:50 PM ET #62

    Quote Originally Posted by Urbanwildlife:

    Interesting, but the fact of the matter is who really gives a chit. If he wants to bring an arrogancy to himself let him knock himself out. If he wants to brag about his winning plays or his percentage who cares, as it should not effect anyone's day whatsoever. This is cyber-land where you get all the bullchit and more ........ If the guy enjoys boasting let him go, because if it makes him feel good that is all that matters. It is his choice what he wants to share or not. He contributes is the only thing that should matter to the board, as the board is as quiet as I have ever seen it, and it is because of jealousy among other things that have driven many of the better posters away, at least WISEGUY36 stands in and takes the abuse that is thrown at him, and he still posts a lot of good information.





    Urban Thanks You for your kind words. I've tried
    to post plays and information to help others those
    new to capping CFB pointed in the right direction.
    I can take the abuse that mostly comes from a lack
    of knowledge or just plain ignorance . What I will
    not take is an attack on my integrity. To anyone on
    this Forum who knows me honor and integrity are
    2 values that I hold very close.
    From this moment forward , I 'm done contributing
    to this Forum.It has proven to be a waste of my time.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urbanwildlife:

    Interesting, but the fact of the matter is who really gives a chit. If he wants to bring an arrogancy to himself let him knock himself out. If he wants to brag about his winning plays or his percentage who cares, as it should not effect anyone's day whatsoever. This is cyber-land where you get all the bullchit and more ........ If the guy enjoys boasting let him go, because if it makes him feel good that is all that matters. It is his choice what he wants to share or not. He contributes is the only thing that should matter to the board, as the board is as quiet as I have ever seen it, and it is because of jealousy among other things that have driven many of the better posters away, at least WISEGUY36 stands in and takes the abuse that is thrown at him, and he still posts a lot of good information.





    Urban Thanks You for your kind words. I've tried
    to post plays and information to help others those
    new to capping CFB pointed in the right direction.
    I can take the abuse that mostly comes from a lack
    of knowledge or just plain ignorance . What I will
    not take is an attack on my integrity. To anyone on
    this Forum who knows me honor and integrity are
    2 values that I hold very close.
    From this moment forward , I 'm done contributing
    to this Forum.It has proven to be a waste of my time.

     
     
    UNIMAN
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2018 - 11:02 PM ET #63

    Ok Wise, I am not here to pick apart your posts from last year.

    My CORE message was you have stated you are not posting plays this year, OK by me, but the idiots are going to hound you when you post results. Your posts, your choice.

    Now, to COMBATO and WMI799; Last spring I went over Wise's posts from last year. During the season he posted pregame plays and his results. Several times he posted wins or bets during or after games. (inplays and late bets I gather. Example; Utah at -9 , -10, and ML) HE NEVER USED THOSE posted "late" plays to his record. VERY COMMENDABLE AND HONEST.
    WE all make late and inplay bets that don't get posted. 

    It was the bowl season thread that said he wasn't posting his plays and then a posted Troy and Boise win that had me disappointed. But he didn't include the Boise win either to his record. Even with what I saw as pregame posted plays only he was at or near 70%. 

    GL everybody.
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    Ok Wise, I am not here to pick apart your posts from last year.

    My CORE message was you have stated you are not posting plays this year, OK by me, but the idiots are going to hound you when you post results. Your posts, your choice.

    Now, to COMBATO and WMI799; Last spring I went over Wise's posts from last year. During the season he posted pregame plays and his results. Several times he posted wins or bets during or after games. (inplays and late bets I gather. Example; Utah at -9 , -10, and ML) HE NEVER USED THOSE posted "late" plays to his record. VERY COMMENDABLE AND HONEST.
    WE all make late and inplay bets that don't get posted. 

    It was the bowl season thread that said he wasn't posting his plays and then a posted Troy and Boise win that had me disappointed. But he didn't include the Boise win either to his record. Even with what I saw as pregame posted plays only he was at or near 70%. 

    GL everybody.
     
    WahooS
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2018 - 11:05 PM ET #64

    I’ve always posted the lines I bet whether it was an early post or late post, I probably folded a few times over the years to avoid the line police

    You are on a public forum that is free for everyone to post what they bet & talk about it, what line you bet doesn’t matter, we aren’t in a contest here

    I’ve never understood that mindset that so many of our members have

    AnyHoo,

    Best of luck on your plays
    .
    Reply
    I’ve always posted the lines I bet whether it was an early post or late post, I probably folded a few times over the years to avoid the line police

    You are on a public forum that is free for everyone to post what they bet & talk about it, what line you bet doesn’t matter, we aren’t in a contest here

    I’ve never understood that mindset that so many of our members have

    AnyHoo,

    Best of luck on your plays
     
    WahooS
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2018 - 11:08 PM ET #65

    I often times also say I like a line up or down to a certain number for those that may only bet on the day of the game, that generally goes over well
    .
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    I often times also say I like a line up or down to a certain number for those that may only bet on the day of the game, that generally goes over well
     
    WISEGUY36
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2018 - 11:49 PM ET #66

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Ok Wise, I am not here to pick apart your posts from last year.

    My CORE message was you have stated you are not posting plays this year, OK by me, but the idiots are going to hound you when you post results. Your posts, your choice.

    Now, to COMBATO and WMI799; Last spring I went over Wise's posts from last year. During the season he posted pregame plays and his results. Several times he posted wins or bets during or after games. (inplays and late bets I gather. Example; Utah at -9 , -10, and ML) HE NEVER USED THOSE posted "late" plays to his record. VERY COMMENDABLE AND HONEST.
    WE all make late and inplay bets that don't get posted. 

    It was the bowl season thread that said he wasn't posting his plays and then a posted Troy and Boise win that had me disappointed. But he didn't include the Boise win either to his record. Even with what I saw as pregame posted plays only he was at or near 70%. 

    GL everybody.



    It was 73%. Did you go to my NC thread and count
    my Bama and N.D.St. wins ?????
    Helping Kama'aina to beat their " Local " since 1994.
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Ok Wise, I am not here to pick apart your posts from last year.

    My CORE message was you have stated you are not posting plays this year, OK by me, but the idiots are going to hound you when you post results. Your posts, your choice.

    Now, to COMBATO and WMI799; Last spring I went over Wise's posts from last year. During the season he posted pregame plays and his results. Several times he posted wins or bets during or after games. (inplays and late bets I gather. Example; Utah at -9 , -10, and ML) HE NEVER USED THOSE posted "late" plays to his record. VERY COMMENDABLE AND HONEST.
    WE all make late and inplay bets that don't get posted. 

    It was the bowl season thread that said he wasn't posting his plays and then a posted Troy and Boise win that had me disappointed. But he didn't include the Boise win either to his record. Even with what I saw as pregame posted plays only he was at or near 70%. 

    GL everybody.



    It was 73%. Did you go to my NC thread and count
    my Bama and N.D.St. wins ?????
     
    WISEGUY36
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2018 - 11:52 PM ET #67

    Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:

    I’ve always posted the lines I bet whether it was an early post or late post, I probably folded a few times over the years to avoid the line police

    You are on a public forum that is free for everyone to post what they bet & talk about it, what line you bet doesn’t matter, we aren’t in a contest here

    I’ve never understood that mindset that so many of our members have

    AnyHoo,

    Best of luck on your plays




    Hoos , Good to hear from you ,my friend.

    I hope you have  great success this season 
    Helping Kama'aina to beat their " Local " since 1994.
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:

    I’ve always posted the lines I bet whether it was an early post or late post, I probably folded a few times over the years to avoid the line police

    You are on a public forum that is free for everyone to post what they bet & talk about it, what line you bet doesn’t matter, we aren’t in a contest here

    I’ve never understood that mindset that so many of our members have

    AnyHoo,

    Best of luck on your plays




    Hoos , Good to hear from you ,my friend.

    I hope you have  great success this season 
     
    UNIMAN
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2018 - 7:18 PM ET #68

    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Hate to turn on you Wise, but you never posted your bowl picks. You said you had such good numbers there was no need to post them as they were no longer available. Then, after the games were over you claimed 8 out of 9. 
    That's not going to fly in the forum here especially if you do the same starting week one, claiming outstanding wins after the games are over! 
    Your going to get blasted dude. Just saying.

    Ok Wise, after further review the above statement is not factually true and I APOLOGIZE for making that inaccurate statement.
    Had a bad day, low blood sugar, needed a Snickers Bar. Was grumpy as hell. I am sorry.

    Let us all enjoy this College Football Season. In Peace!


    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:

    Hate to turn on you Wise, but you never posted your bowl picks. You said you had such good numbers there was no need to post them as they were no longer available. Then, after the games were over you claimed 8 out of 9. 
    That's not going to fly in the forum here especially if you do the same starting week one, claiming outstanding wins after the games are over! 
    Your going to get blasted dude. Just saying.

    Ok Wise, after further review the above statement is not factually true and I APOLOGIZE for making that inaccurate statement.
    Had a bad day, low blood sugar, needed a Snickers Bar. Was grumpy as hell. I am sorry.

    Let us all enjoy this College Football Season. In Peace!


     
    Volatilis
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2018 - 9:02 PM ET #69

    So, don't normally watch High School games on TV but had to watch this one on Bounce TV.  Thompson High School vs. James Clemens High School.  For those that might not be familiar, Tua's younger brother, Taulia Tagovailoa, is quarterback for Thompson.  3 touchdown passes so far midway in the 2nd qtr.  Looks to have as good an arm as Tua, but so far, not as quick on the feet.  Thought I would pass this along.

    Reply

    So, don't normally watch High School games on TV but had to watch this one on Bounce TV.  Thompson High School vs. James Clemens High School.  For those that might not be familiar, Tua's younger brother, Taulia Tagovailoa, is quarterback for Thompson.  3 touchdown passes so far midway in the 2nd qtr.  Looks to have as good an arm as Tua, but so far, not as quick on the feet.  Thought I would pass this along.

     
    EKUD
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    Posted: Aug. 24, 2018 - 9:26 PM ET #70

    This is the dumbest thing I've read on any forum ever. 

    "I'm not posting my plays here but my personal goal is 80%"

    How will we know if you hit 80%?

    "You won't, it's my personal goal."

    Why the darn are you here then?

    "I don't really know why to be honest with you."
    Reply
    This is the dumbest thing I've read on any forum ever. 

    "I'm not posting my plays here but my personal goal is 80%"

    How will we know if you hit 80%?

    "You won't, it's my personal goal."

    Why the darn are you here then?

    "I don't really know why to be honest with you."
     
    nostradamus12
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2018 - 12:42 PM ET #71

    best of luck on a high profit season buddyan_cheerspeace_5

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    best of luck on a high profit season buddyan_cheerspeace_5

     
    BadAngel
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2018 - 6:30 PM ET #72

    Good luck this season WISEGUY
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    Good luck this season WISEGUY
     
    Tappy
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2018 - 6:53 PM ET #73

    I have been reading and doing research on Value... I am very interested in the concepts and how each game/line has a certain value. 

    I am going to stop placing bets that I "think" will win because of reason A and B. 
    Reply
    I have been reading and doing research on Value... I am very interested in the concepts and how each game/line has a certain value. 

    I am going to stop placing bets that I "think" will win because of reason A and B. 
     
    barneybeans
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2018 - 7:34 PM ET #74

    Quote Originally Posted by wmi799:

    BOL this season, You must be one mighty important man in the gaming world if the "books" come here to covers just to see what you're up to. Plus, for them to know your user name and know it's you must be a tad bit unsettling for you.  Have you figured out how they know it's you posting on this forum? Good luck on your plays
    This is how it works, I'll go slow and use small words, OK? Good, so if he posts his plays here it doesn't matter if they know who he is or where he bets. All that matters is they see a successful handicapper tearing it up. If he posts his plays and does well bookmakers or those who work with bookmakers reading this site looking for angles might be able to reverse or uncover a particular angle that happens to be working well - reverse engineering the plays. They then can latch on to that angle and build it into the lines for next week - before WISEGUY36 has even looked at those games.

    It's about keeping your strategy to yourself even if that means not releasing your picks because behind every pick by a pro handicapper IS AN IMPLICIT STRATEGY.

    Get it? He's not holding back plays so the lines don't move away from him -or- so that his bookie can't personally alter the lines - he can bet hours or days before posting here with his outlets.

    Other folks who follow this site are touts selling picks and they have no idea how to handicap - they come to sites like these and look for hot cappers and pass the picks off as their own, charge $ for it and these picks go out to a looooooot of players and may not only cause line movement(not that Wiseguy36 cares at this point his bets are probably in) but these good plays are now on the radar, especially smaller schools and matchups. An angle can obviously be revealed.


    "...let me give you a rough idea of how I go about making a baseball line. Of course, I'm not about to disclose the subtleties and details and then find myself trying to beat my own line. Anyway, the oddsmaker's lines are very beatable when I compare them with my line, and I want to keep it that way." - Bob McCune

    The pen is mightier than the pigs
    Reply

    Quote Originally Posted by wmi799:

    BOL this season, You must be one mighty important man in the gaming world if the "books" come here to covers just to see what you're up to. Plus, for them to know your user name and know it's you must be a tad bit unsettling for you.  Have you figured out how they know it's you posting on this forum? Good luck on your plays
    This is how it works, I'll go slow and use small words, OK? Good, so if he posts his plays here it doesn't matter if they know who he is or where he bets. All that matters is they see a successful handicapper tearing it up. If he posts his plays and does well bookmakers or those who work with bookmakers reading this site looking for angles might be able to reverse or uncover a particular angle that happens to be working well - reverse engineering the plays. They then can latch on to that angle and build it into the lines for next week - before WISEGUY36 has even looked at those games.

    It's about keeping your strategy to yourself even if that means not releasing your picks because behind every pick by a pro handicapper IS AN IMPLICIT STRATEGY.

    Get it? He's not holding back plays so the lines don't move away from him -or- so that his bookie can't personally alter the lines - he can bet hours or days before posting here with his outlets.

    Other folks who follow this site are touts selling picks and they have no idea how to handicap - they come to sites like these and look for hot cappers and pass the picks off as their own, charge $ for it and these picks go out to a looooooot of players and may not only cause line movement(not that Wiseguy36 cares at this point his bets are probably in) but these good plays are now on the radar, especially smaller schools and matchups. An angle can obviously be revealed.


    "...let me give you a rough idea of how I go about making a baseball line. Of course, I'm not about to disclose the subtleties and details and then find myself trying to beat my own line. Anyway, the oddsmaker's lines are very beatable when I compare them with my line, and I want to keep it that way." - Bob McCune

     
     
    barneybeans
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2018 - 7:37 PM ET #75

    BOL WISEGUY hope you hit and pass 80. In life as well as NCAAF win pct% 


    The pen is mightier than the pigs
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    BOL WISEGUY hope you hit and pass 80. In life as well as NCAAF win pct% 


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