I've tried responding to people who asked advice on their own plays in this thread, isn't that helping others? you mfkrs act as if I owe you something, I've posted plays over a decade on this forum, I've well over earned my right to post whatever I want in my own threads
The degenerate scum is out in full force, Wahoos. All sick of handing out cash to their bookies by now. They want picks!!
Joke is on them. If any of these knuckleheads had half a brain cell they'd read insights of Packers, Nos, yourself, etc. This site is pure garbage, with the exception of you guys. Hope you know there are some of us out there that use your analysis as part of "our" analysis to make our own picks. Your insight is appreciated. Has been for years.
FYI....
I'm on SMU +15- love this line. Might crack the Over too
Hammering the Nittany Lions too
As always- good luck Mr Large Money
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[Quote: Originally Posted by WahooS]
thats twice for you in this thread, fuk you Skip
I've tried responding to people who asked advice on their own plays in this thread, isn't that helping others? you mfkrs act as if I owe you something, I've posted plays over a decade on this forum, I've well over earned my right to post whatever I want in my own threads
The degenerate scum is out in full force, Wahoos. All sick of handing out cash to their bookies by now. They want picks!!
Joke is on them. If any of these knuckleheads had half a brain cell they'd read insights of Packers, Nos, yourself, etc. This site is pure garbage, with the exception of you guys. Hope you know there are some of us out there that use your analysis as part of "our" analysis to make our own picks. Your insight is appreciated. Has been for years.
FYI....
I'm on SMU +15- love this line. Might crack the Over too
it was a bad beat for FAU backers and a great miracle for Marsh backers
Lane was simply trying to win the game, not trying to cover a spread, he's trying to get a big job, he simply wanted to ensure a win and he opted not to give them a chance to beat him
it sucked for people who bet but is exactly the result FAU was looking for, a win
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Quote Originally Posted by HolySmoker:
Wahoos,
Any thoughts on the FAU safety debacle earlier?
it was a bad beat for FAU backers and a great miracle for Marsh backers
Lane was simply trying to win the game, not trying to cover a spread, he's trying to get a big job, he simply wanted to ensure a win and he opted not to give them a chance to beat him
it sucked for people who bet but is exactly the result FAU was looking for, a win
Since we're both up late Ill rattle off a few more.
Ole Miss looks like they can move the ball with Ta'amu at QB. Im liking them getting a few points at UK, an avg squad. Any lean?
Dont understand the Auburn / A&M line. A&M at home and a bit desperate....usually like the fave when a line move off 14 to 14.5 or 15, but I cant get my head around Auburn -15. I watched their game vs LSU and had them as a target to bet against in a spot like this.
thanks brother
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Thanks Wahoos.
Since we're both up late Ill rattle off a few more.
Ole Miss looks like they can move the ball with Ta'amu at QB. Im liking them getting a few points at UK, an avg squad. Any lean?
Dont understand the Auburn / A&M line. A&M at home and a bit desperate....usually like the fave when a line move off 14 to 14.5 or 15, but I cant get my head around Auburn -15. I watched their game vs LSU and had them as a target to bet against in a spot like this.
WahooS, I am a retired 70yo West Texan. Betting football is one of my hobbies (habit). I am a nerdy numbers guy, crunching stats on Pass yds/att and rushing yds/att offense and defense. Works pretty good sometime and 50/50 sometime. I need some other methods of hdcping, or just revert to golf. BOL to you. Any ideas wouldhelp.....
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WahooS, I am a retired 70yo West Texan. Betting football is one of my hobbies (habit). I am a nerdy numbers guy, crunching stats on Pass yds/att and rushing yds/att offense and defense. Works pretty good sometime and 50/50 sometime. I need some other methods of hdcping, or just revert to golf. BOL to you. Any ideas wouldhelp.....
Since we're both up late Ill rattle off a few more.
Ole Miss looks like they can move the ball with Ta'amu at QB. Im liking them getting a few points at UK, an avg squad. Any lean?
Dont understand the Auburn / A&M line. A&M at home and a bit desperate....usually like the fave when a line move off 14 to 14.5 or 15, but I cant get my head around Auburn -15. I watched their game vs LSU and had them as a target to bet against in a spot like this.
thanks brother
yes on first, should win straight up, UK much worse than their record in my opinion
tough one on 2nd, in the back of my mind I always thinkk auburn can break out and blow someone out but they certainly haven't done that when they should have, Ags looked really bad last week and have faded down the stretch in all of Sumlin's years it would seem, I just don't know if I could back either, sorry not much help on this one
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Quote Originally Posted by HolySmoker:
Thanks Wahoos.
Since we're both up late Ill rattle off a few more.
Ole Miss looks like they can move the ball with Ta'amu at QB. Im liking them getting a few points at UK, an avg squad. Any lean?
Dont understand the Auburn / A&M line. A&M at home and a bit desperate....usually like the fave when a line move off 14 to 14.5 or 15, but I cant get my head around Auburn -15. I watched their game vs LSU and had them as a target to bet against in a spot like this.
thanks brother
yes on first, should win straight up, UK much worse than their record in my opinion
tough one on 2nd, in the back of my mind I always thinkk auburn can break out and blow someone out but they certainly haven't done that when they should have, Ags looked really bad last week and have faded down the stretch in all of Sumlin's years it would seem, I just don't know if I could back either, sorry not much help on this one
yes on first, should win straight up, UK much worse than their record in my opinion
tough one on 2nd, in the back of my mind I always thinkk auburn can break out and blow someone out but they certainly haven't done that when they should have, Ags looked really bad last week and have faded down the stretch in all of Sumlin's years it would seem, I just don't know if I could back either, sorry not much help on this one
Much appreciated, Sage of Covers.
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Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:
yes on first, should win straight up, UK much worse than their record in my opinion
tough one on 2nd, in the back of my mind I always thinkk auburn can break out and blow someone out but they certainly haven't done that when they should have, Ags looked really bad last week and have faded down the stretch in all of Sumlin's years it would seem, I just don't know if I could back either, sorry not much help on this one
If you’ve really had no losing weeks this season is it any surprise that people want your picks? Especially when you come on here giving teasers
People looking for picks are not trolls. Trolls are people who agitate and provoke for its own sake whilst offering no insight. I’ve seen little to none of this over six pages so I’m not sure where you’re seeing it. It does rather make me think you posted some conditions that you were only too happy to claim have not been met
Good luck of course but remember a public forum will always invite the whole spectrum of personalities. I hope you reconsider
So originally I had some other things to say but I'll keep them to myself, I think similar thoughts were conveyed and it was done more constructively above. In regard to the conditions not being met, I saw your response WahooS but lets be honest in our answer, in the first 5 pages there was ONE single TROLL (singular not plural) that crashed your party and got deleted (and technically even though 2 Posts got deleted only ONE was the TROLLS again SINGULAR not PLURAL, the other was someone shooting down the troll). Now did that break your conditions to post your plays, yes, but I honestly can't believe there weren't more trolls, especially after last weeks thread.
You can bash me or say whatever you want but from where I sit it's hard to see how you really had any desire to share your plays when you set criteria out there like that in the first place. You had over 100 Posts in your first 5 pages and literally over 99% of them were GOOD, RESPECTFUL & KIND HEARTED posts from people that genuinely seem to enjoy your thread and like what you bring to the table and like interacting with you about CFB BUT you are going to PUNISH all of them because of ONE AssHat?!? I honestly don't get that type of thinking and never will but as you have pointed out many times, to many people, this is your thread and you will do with it as you like. On this point we can agree but I think I have seen enough of your personality seep through the pages this CFB season and will collect my information elsewhere from now on. I hope your winning % continues to be as great as you keep saying, your life as great as you keep saying and if you are going to keep saying all that in a public forum you probably need to get a little thicker skinned, just saying...
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Quote Originally Posted by Ramanujan:
If you’ve really had no losing weeks this season is it any surprise that people want your picks? Especially when you come on here giving teasers
People looking for picks are not trolls. Trolls are people who agitate and provoke for its own sake whilst offering no insight. I’ve seen little to none of this over six pages so I’m not sure where you’re seeing it. It does rather make me think you posted some conditions that you were only too happy to claim have not been met
Good luck of course but remember a public forum will always invite the whole spectrum of personalities. I hope you reconsider
So originally I had some other things to say but I'll keep them to myself, I think similar thoughts were conveyed and it was done more constructively above. In regard to the conditions not being met, I saw your response WahooS but lets be honest in our answer, in the first 5 pages there was ONE single TROLL (singular not plural) that crashed your party and got deleted (and technically even though 2 Posts got deleted only ONE was the TROLLS again SINGULAR not PLURAL, the other was someone shooting down the troll). Now did that break your conditions to post your plays, yes, but I honestly can't believe there weren't more trolls, especially after last weeks thread.
You can bash me or say whatever you want but from where I sit it's hard to see how you really had any desire to share your plays when you set criteria out there like that in the first place. You had over 100 Posts in your first 5 pages and literally over 99% of them were GOOD, RESPECTFUL & KIND HEARTED posts from people that genuinely seem to enjoy your thread and like what you bring to the table and like interacting with you about CFB BUT you are going to PUNISH all of them because of ONE AssHat?!? I honestly don't get that type of thinking and never will but as you have pointed out many times, to many people, this is your thread and you will do with it as you like. On this point we can agree but I think I have seen enough of your personality seep through the pages this CFB season and will collect my information elsewhere from now on. I hope your winning % continues to be as great as you keep saying, your life as great as you keep saying and if you are going to keep saying all that in a public forum you probably need to get a little thicker skinned, just saying...
WahooS, I am a retired 70yo West Texan. Betting football is one of my hobbies (habit). I am a nerdy numbers guy, crunching stats on Pass yds/att and rushing yds/att offense and defense. Works pretty good sometime and 50/50 sometime. I need some other methods of hdcping, or just revert to golf. BOL to you. Any ideas wouldhelp.....
numbers are great so you are good with that angle
watch lots of games, record them if you have to and watch later, get a feel for each team, look at coaching staff tendencies
for example
look at Okie St, best deep ball passer in the Big12 but have chosen to run and keep offense in front of defense for two straight weeks, Gundy playing to not lose instead of trying to go over the top with those unreal wideouts, it isn't like anyone in the big12 can cover those wideouts, he tried to lose the Texas game and simply couldn't lose the West Virg game because they just aren't very good, interesting to see what game plan he calls tomorrow vs OU
I watched both of those games twice, once was in a fast "cliff notes" type version after seeing original footage
read a thread like BookieAssassin does, he puts links to get great info, injury reports, recent trends etc
bottomline, you have to be sick with this habit and it must consume you if you are going to win long term, you can go in halfazz or you'll get burned at some point
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Quote Originally Posted by rrnoble:
WahooS, I am a retired 70yo West Texan. Betting football is one of my hobbies (habit). I am a nerdy numbers guy, crunching stats on Pass yds/att and rushing yds/att offense and defense. Works pretty good sometime and 50/50 sometime. I need some other methods of hdcping, or just revert to golf. BOL to you. Any ideas wouldhelp.....
numbers are great so you are good with that angle
watch lots of games, record them if you have to and watch later, get a feel for each team, look at coaching staff tendencies
for example
look at Okie St, best deep ball passer in the Big12 but have chosen to run and keep offense in front of defense for two straight weeks, Gundy playing to not lose instead of trying to go over the top with those unreal wideouts, it isn't like anyone in the big12 can cover those wideouts, he tried to lose the Texas game and simply couldn't lose the West Virg game because they just aren't very good, interesting to see what game plan he calls tomorrow vs OU
I watched both of those games twice, once was in a fast "cliff notes" type version after seeing original footage
read a thread like BookieAssassin does, he puts links to get great info, injury reports, recent trends etc
bottomline, you have to be sick with this habit and it must consume you if you are going to win long term, you can go in halfazz or you'll get burned at some point
So originally I had some other things to say but I'll keep them to myself, I think similar thoughts were conveyed and it was done more constructively above. In regard to the conditions not being met, I saw your response WahooS but lets be honest in our answer, in the first 5 pages there was ONE single TROLL (singular not plural) that crashed your party and got deleted (and technically even though 2 Posts got deleted only ONE was the TROLLS again SINGULAR not PLURAL, the other was someone shooting down the troll). Now did that break your conditions to post your plays, yes, but I honestly can't believe there weren't more trolls, especially after last weeks thread.
You can bash me or say whatever you want but from where I sit it's hard to see how you really had any desire to share your plays when you set criteria out there like that in the first place. You had over 100 Posts in your first 5 pages and literally over 99% of them were GOOD, RESPECTFUL & KIND HEARTED posts from people that genuinely seem to enjoy your thread and like what you bring to the table and like interacting with you about CFB BUT you are going to PUNISH all of them because of ONE AssHat?!
no bashing necessary, just a difference of opinion of how things should be, I don't see it as punishing anyone, I'm here every single week to answer questions regarding games and lend advice (not many people on this forum do that and I've done it for over a decade)
I'm answering questions about games as we speak in this thread and that is what the forum is for
if you choose to post here or some other thread that is up to you
as far as my personality, it is tough to read on an internet message board and much of what I spit out is sarcasm, I've met alot of these people and they can tell you (but that is neither here nor there), doesn't matter, all that matters is how I am on here to the covers members
I've posted losts of plays for many years, few can say that, I feel good about my work here, thanks for the post, hope you win this weekend
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Quote Originally Posted by GrindItOut44:
So originally I had some other things to say but I'll keep them to myself, I think similar thoughts were conveyed and it was done more constructively above. In regard to the conditions not being met, I saw your response WahooS but lets be honest in our answer, in the first 5 pages there was ONE single TROLL (singular not plural) that crashed your party and got deleted (and technically even though 2 Posts got deleted only ONE was the TROLLS again SINGULAR not PLURAL, the other was someone shooting down the troll). Now did that break your conditions to post your plays, yes, but I honestly can't believe there weren't more trolls, especially after last weeks thread.
You can bash me or say whatever you want but from where I sit it's hard to see how you really had any desire to share your plays when you set criteria out there like that in the first place. You had over 100 Posts in your first 5 pages and literally over 99% of them were GOOD, RESPECTFUL & KIND HEARTED posts from people that genuinely seem to enjoy your thread and like what you bring to the table and like interacting with you about CFB BUT you are going to PUNISH all of them because of ONE AssHat?!
no bashing necessary, just a difference of opinion of how things should be, I don't see it as punishing anyone, I'm here every single week to answer questions regarding games and lend advice (not many people on this forum do that and I've done it for over a decade)
I'm answering questions about games as we speak in this thread and that is what the forum is for
if you choose to post here or some other thread that is up to you
as far as my personality, it is tough to read on an internet message board and much of what I spit out is sarcasm, I've met alot of these people and they can tell you (but that is neither here nor there), doesn't matter, all that matters is how I am on here to the covers members
I've posted losts of plays for many years, few can say that, I feel good about my work here, thanks for the post, hope you win this weekend
I get such hard on reading this guys threads...jk no person. When you cap games do you use sights like sports insights to see where money is going etc?
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I get such hard on reading this guys threads...jk no person. When you cap games do you use sights like sports insights to see where money is going etc?
I get such hard on reading this guys threads...jk no person. When you cap games do you use sights like sports insights to see where money is going etc?
no sir, absolute worst thing you can do in my opinion, it will only distract you from making the right play
doesn't matter what others bet
lets just pretend the best guy in the world hits 62% on a yearly basis (just a random number I chose), he won't win 2/3 of his bets on average
lets pretend the average joe hits 50% of his games, that means they will win 1 of 2
people lose because bad money management and juice,not because they can't pick a winning side EVER
if you get caught up in betting percentages you'll be distracted and mind fuk'd in the end
sometimes the public wins, sometimes the public loses, simple as that
gambling is hard enough without worrying about what others have bet unless you consider them better than you and are looking to tail their plays, that's a whole different topic
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Quote Originally Posted by rvolpe21:
I get such hard on reading this guys threads...jk no person. When you cap games do you use sights like sports insights to see where money is going etc?
no sir, absolute worst thing you can do in my opinion, it will only distract you from making the right play
doesn't matter what others bet
lets just pretend the best guy in the world hits 62% on a yearly basis (just a random number I chose), he won't win 2/3 of his bets on average
lets pretend the average joe hits 50% of his games, that means they will win 1 of 2
people lose because bad money management and juice,not because they can't pick a winning side EVER
if you get caught up in betting percentages you'll be distracted and mind fuk'd in the end
sometimes the public wins, sometimes the public loses, simple as that
gambling is hard enough without worrying about what others have bet unless you consider them better than you and are looking to tail their plays, that's a whole different topic
You've got a lot of class. Stay that way. I appreciate all the help you do give. We are all trying to beat the man. (Who sometimes I believe are the trolls, trying to quash good info) Thx again for the advice. ps I'm a long time (suffering) Red Raider fan, and I 've got no feel for them with Old Bill tomorrow am. Any feel or thoughts???
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You've got a lot of class. Stay that way. I appreciate all the help you do give. We are all trying to beat the man. (Who sometimes I believe are the trolls, trying to quash good info) Thx again for the advice. ps I'm a long time (suffering) Red Raider fan, and I 've got no feel for them with Old Bill tomorrow am. Any feel or thoughts???
Ok brother appreciate your answer. So basically if you like ohio st for instance and 70-80% of the money is on them spread wise that wouldnt sway you away?
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Ok brother appreciate your answer. So basically if you like ohio st for instance and 70-80% of the money is on them spread wise that wouldnt sway you away?
You've got a lot of class. Stay that way. I appreciate all the help you do give. We are all trying to beat the man. (Who sometimes I believe are the trolls, trying to quash good info) Thx again for the advice. ps I'm a long time (suffering) Red Raider fan, and I 've got no feel for them with Old Bill tomorrow am. Any feel or thoughts???
everyone has an opinion this week in my thread, it is fascinating honestly
I've literally answered most of the questions about other people's games and still getting "opinions", all I'm doing is helping others, what a bad person
as far as your game goes, that is a tough one, Red Raiders fading after that miserable throw away loss to West Virg, they have fallen apart since, they should have won that game
KState isn't very good but obviously well coached, I don't trust their defense this year like most years, seem to lack depth and offense is inconsistent, they had trouble with Kansas and others have been them rather easily to my eye despite some scores
I'd normally look to back Billy Boy in this type of game but I can't trust that team & certainly can't back Red Raiders until they show me they have awoke from their October coma, I honestly can't give a better side to bet in this one, my apologies
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Quote Originally Posted by rrnoble:
You've got a lot of class. Stay that way. I appreciate all the help you do give. We are all trying to beat the man. (Who sometimes I believe are the trolls, trying to quash good info) Thx again for the advice. ps I'm a long time (suffering) Red Raider fan, and I 've got no feel for them with Old Bill tomorrow am. Any feel or thoughts???
everyone has an opinion this week in my thread, it is fascinating honestly
I've literally answered most of the questions about other people's games and still getting "opinions", all I'm doing is helping others, what a bad person
as far as your game goes, that is a tough one, Red Raiders fading after that miserable throw away loss to West Virg, they have fallen apart since, they should have won that game
KState isn't very good but obviously well coached, I don't trust their defense this year like most years, seem to lack depth and offense is inconsistent, they had trouble with Kansas and others have been them rather easily to my eye despite some scores
I'd normally look to back Billy Boy in this type of game but I can't trust that team & certainly can't back Red Raiders until they show me they have awoke from their October coma, I honestly can't give a better side to bet in this one, my apologies
Ok brother appreciate your answer. So basically if you like ohio st for instance and 70-80% of the money is on them spread wise that wouldnt sway you away?
I wouldn't know the percentage in the first place because I don't look at that so my answer is no
Ohio St may or may not cover the spread for you but it will have ZERO to do with the percentage numbers from SportsInsight if you catch my drift
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Quote Originally Posted by rvolpe21:
Ok brother appreciate your answer. So basically if you like ohio st for instance and 70-80% of the money is on them spread wise that wouldnt sway you away?
I wouldn't know the percentage in the first place because I don't look at that so my answer is no
Ohio St may or may not cover the spread for you but it will have ZERO to do with the percentage numbers from SportsInsight if you catch my drift
I have never been impressed with Kenny Hill and am surprised they went undefeated for as long as they did.
Georgia cannot look invincible every week. I think South Carolina's defense plays bend don't break and forces at least 3 field goals which should keep South Cackalacky within 3 TDs.
What are your thoughts on Mizzou/Florida? I am leaning Gators who I believe win this game outright. Mizzou's offense looks great and puts up big numbers on defenses without a pulse. Against average to good defenses (minus the 1st half against Georgia), they have done nothing.
Defensively they are terrible. I believe Florida's offense may be able to resemble a D-1 offense this weekend. I look for the Florida offense to "explode" for 27-30 points.
Florida 27 Mizzou 21
Florida game is tricky, if they respond well to Shannon as interim and Zaire can play a bit I'd agree, Mizzou has looked awful against teams with talent and Florida does still have some talent, I just don't know how the players feel since it seemed as though they were all taken by surprise with this move, tough to predict their mindset despite the things they may say in the media
UGA laying lots of points, they'll have to throw some to cover that number, can't just line up and run it every play like they did against Florida, that was literally the most gameplan ever and they still blew them out
with you on Kenny Trill, he had a few moments this year but he's just not a top tier player
nice post here
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Quote Originally Posted by SwagRabbit:
I like South Carolina and Texas this week.
I have never been impressed with Kenny Hill and am surprised they went undefeated for as long as they did.
Georgia cannot look invincible every week. I think South Carolina's defense plays bend don't break and forces at least 3 field goals which should keep South Cackalacky within 3 TDs.
What are your thoughts on Mizzou/Florida? I am leaning Gators who I believe win this game outright. Mizzou's offense looks great and puts up big numbers on defenses without a pulse. Against average to good defenses (minus the 1st half against Georgia), they have done nothing.
Defensively they are terrible. I believe Florida's offense may be able to resemble a D-1 offense this weekend. I look for the Florida offense to "explode" for 27-30 points.
Florida 27 Mizzou 21
Florida game is tricky, if they respond well to Shannon as interim and Zaire can play a bit I'd agree, Mizzou has looked awful against teams with talent and Florida does still have some talent, I just don't know how the players feel since it seemed as though they were all taken by surprise with this move, tough to predict their mindset despite the things they may say in the media
UGA laying lots of points, they'll have to throw some to cover that number, can't just line up and run it every play like they did against Florida, that was literally the most gameplan ever and they still blew them out
with you on Kenny Trill, he had a few moments this year but he's just not a top tier player
FWIW, Had anyone bet on the non-public (against 75% and up) teams this year; they would have won 54 games and lost 58 games. So I do concur with paying no attention to money flows..These are fairly accurate, usually taken on Sat am early.
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FWIW, Had anyone bet on the non-public (against 75% and up) teams this year; they would have won 54 games and lost 58 games. So I do concur with paying no attention to money flows..These are fairly accurate, usually taken on Sat am early.
yes on first, should win straight up, UK much worse than their record in my opinion
tough one on 2nd, in the back of my mind I always thinkk auburn can break out and blow someone out but they certainly haven't done that when they should have, Ags looked really bad last week and have faded down the stretch in all of Sumlin's years it would seem, I just don't know if I could back either, sorry not much help on this one
Glad you like ole miss. I live in Ky , and it's extremely hard to watch anything besides KY basketball. I don't care what our record says, we've beat nobody, and our team is somewhat boring to watch. Run,Run,Run. I took the 3.5, hoping the cats win,but don't cover. keep up the good work Wahoo. Hit a 3 teamer tonight, thanks to a safety. Makes up for a bunch of bad beats
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Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:
yes on first, should win straight up, UK much worse than their record in my opinion
tough one on 2nd, in the back of my mind I always thinkk auburn can break out and blow someone out but they certainly haven't done that when they should have, Ags looked really bad last week and have faded down the stretch in all of Sumlin's years it would seem, I just don't know if I could back either, sorry not much help on this one
Glad you like ole miss. I live in Ky , and it's extremely hard to watch anything besides KY basketball. I don't care what our record says, we've beat nobody, and our team is somewhat boring to watch. Run,Run,Run. I took the 3.5, hoping the cats win,but don't cover. keep up the good work Wahoo. Hit a 3 teamer tonight, thanks to a safety. Makes up for a bunch of bad beats
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