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    Georgia Tech at Clemson (11/14/2013)

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    mob504
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2013 - 4:33 PM ET #26

    G.TECH33
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    G.TECH33
    CLEM  29
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2013 - 4:48 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by SURFNTURF808:

    No real reason, except 72%  of covers on Clemson. So I'm taking gtech nuff said. Thanks guys

    Hi surfNturf, could you tell me 1 psychological reason why this work.  I would appreciated....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SURFNTURF808:

    No real reason, except 72%  of covers on Clemson. So I'm taking gtech nuff said. Thanks guys

    Hi surfNturf, could you tell me 1 psychological reason why this work.  I would appreciated....

     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2013 - 5:00 PM ET #28

    Clemson and over ML
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    Clemson and over ML
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2013 - 5:08 PM ET #29

    This is a tricky game. GT has a great running game with a very solid D and clemson is a better passing team but their D is suspect. With that being said clemson is at home. I would stay away from this game.
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    This is a tricky game. GT has a great running game with a very solid D and clemson is a better passing team but their D is suspect. With that being said clemson is at home. I would stay away from this game.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2013 - 5:10 PM ET #30

    Tease Clemson and the colts, then time for bed 
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    Tease Clemson and the colts, then time for bed 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2013 - 5:31 PM ET #31

    Clemson, IMO. BOL
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    Clemson, IMO. BOL
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2013 - 5:31 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by Ongdia888:

    Hi surfNturf, could you tell me 1 psychological reason why this work.  I would appreciated....


    I'll answer for him. The reason it works is because the spreads are rigged. The games are rigged. Everything in life is rigged. That's why Vegas makes all the money that they do. By sucking in the suckers to the better team and then having the dog cover most of the time. They do it in a sly way though by letting the good teams cover a certain amount of games and then getting them when everyone is on the wrong side. They make money by doing this, they're not satisfied with house juice. That's nothing to them.

    Now my opinion for this game is to tease GT and forget about Clemson altogether. I looked at the stats and I can't see Clemson winning this one by more than 14 pts. And I wouldn't be surprised if GT won it outright, so that's why I wouldn't recommend to tease Clem.

    Good Luck everyone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ongdia888:

    Hi surfNturf, could you tell me 1 psychological reason why this work.  I would appreciated....


    I'll answer for him. The reason it works is because the spreads are rigged. The games are rigged. Everything in life is rigged. That's why Vegas makes all the money that they do. By sucking in the suckers to the better team and then having the dog cover most of the time. They do it in a sly way though by letting the good teams cover a certain amount of games and then getting them when everyone is on the wrong side. They make money by doing this, they're not satisfied with house juice. That's nothing to them.

    Now my opinion for this game is to tease GT and forget about Clemson altogether. I looked at the stats and I can't see Clemson winning this one by more than 14 pts. And I wouldn't be surprised if GT won it outright, so that's why I wouldn't recommend to tease Clem.

    Good Luck everyone
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2013 - 5:49 PM ET #33

    Some of you guys make my head hurt with your conspiracy theories, especially the ones that anonymous posters scattered throughout the US can make independent decisions after a line is posted and have an impact of dozens of CFB players who don't know anyone involved with either side o0f the bet.  Jeez!  Why don't you put on your tin foil hats, go to the Grassy Knoll and rub some dead chicken's bones together, add some herbs, put it in a kettle add bacon grease and put it over a fire to heat...then ask the Wizard for guidance on who to bet on. 

    You may want to study any of the thousands of pages of stats and days of video available on teams and make an informed decision.  Doesn't mean you will win, the best team doesn't always win, but you will feel better about yourself as a man.  Why be a wimp feeling like a victim because you lost a bet?  Grow a pair and accept that if you can win 65% of your bets you will win good money.  But take responsibility for your choices and don't blame others for why football games go a certain way.

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    Some of you guys make my head hurt with your conspiracy theories, especially the ones that anonymous posters scattered throughout the US can make independent decisions after a line is posted and have an impact of dozens of CFB players who don't know anyone involved with either side o0f the bet.  Jeez!  Why don't you put on your tin foil hats, go to the Grassy Knoll and rub some dead chicken's bones together, add some herbs, put it in a kettle add bacon grease and put it over a fire to heat...then ask the Wizard for guidance on who to bet on. 

    You may want to study any of the thousands of pages of stats and days of video available on teams and make an informed decision.  Doesn't mean you will win, the best team doesn't always win, but you will feel better about yourself as a man.  Why be a wimp feeling like a victim because you lost a bet?  Grow a pair and accept that if you can win 65% of your bets you will win good money.  But take responsibility for your choices and don't blame others for why football games go a certain way.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2013 - 5:55 PM ET #34

    27-33.....Tigers

     

     

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    27-33.....Tigers

     

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2013 - 5:55 PM ET #35

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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2013 - 6:26 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by mgmprofits:


    I'll answer for him. The reason it works is because the spreads are rigged. The games are rigged. Everything in life is rigged. That's why Vegas makes all the money that they do. By sucking in the suckers to the better team and then having the dog cover most of the time. They do it in a sly way though by letting the good teams cover a certain amount of games and then getting them when everyone is on the wrong side. They make money by doing this, they're not satisfied with house juice. That's nothing to them.

    Now my opinion for this game is to tease GT and forget about Clemson altogether. I looked at the stats and I can't see Clemson winning this one by more than 14 pts. And I wouldn't be surprised if GT won it outright, so that's why I wouldn't recommend to tease Clem.

    Good Luck everyone
    You actually did not answer for him.  You gave a logical explanation to a question, though you answered the wrong question.  Surfnturf is just fading the public for the sole purpose of fading the public, not because he believes in bonehead conspiracy theories like you do.  BTW, just because it worked last week, Surfnturf, doesn't mean it works at all.  It can be chalked up to coincidence or statistical anomalies. I'm not saying Clemson or GT covers: I'm saying that species reasoning, false logic, and conspiracy theories are ridiculous reasons for wagering but perfectly suitable for simpleton's like you both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mgmprofits:


    I'll answer for him. The reason it works is because the spreads are rigged. The games are rigged. Everything in life is rigged. That's why Vegas makes all the money that they do. By sucking in the suckers to the better team and then having the dog cover most of the time. They do it in a sly way though by letting the good teams cover a certain amount of games and then getting them when everyone is on the wrong side. They make money by doing this, they're not satisfied with house juice. That's nothing to them.

    Now my opinion for this game is to tease GT and forget about Clemson altogether. I looked at the stats and I can't see Clemson winning this one by more than 14 pts. And I wouldn't be surprised if GT won it outright, so that's why I wouldn't recommend to tease Clem.

    Good Luck everyone
    You actually did not answer for him.  You gave a logical explanation to a question, though you answered the wrong question.  Surfnturf is just fading the public for the sole purpose of fading the public, not because he believes in bonehead conspiracy theories like you do.  BTW, just because it worked last week, Surfnturf, doesn't mean it works at all.  It can be chalked up to coincidence or statistical anomalies. I'm not saying Clemson or GT covers: I'm saying that species reasoning, false logic, and conspiracy theories are ridiculous reasons for wagering but perfectly suitable for simpleton's like you both.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2013 - 6:43 PM ET #37

    Specious, BTW, not species: damn auto correct.
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    Specious, BTW, not species: damn auto correct.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2013 - 6:49 PM ET #38

    OK fellas. We all suspect conspiracies, especially when we lose. They cant fix them all and I do subscribe to the notion that if the line is too good to be true then just stay the F&&k away.

    But I think I will take ole Stevopa's advice and attempt to inject some relevant logic to this debate.

    It is a given that GT relies on the run almost exclusively. In prime time on the road I do really believe you get some noise impact with synchronizing the snap count. O-lineman dont get as consistent or great an advantage from knowing the snap count on the road.

    I couple this with Clemson's defense this year being relatively strong on the road. Against teams that rely on the run most, they have played well Defensively. (BC, UVA, Wake) and they also held FSU to 3.2 ypc in that debacle three weeks ago.

    Feel like Clemson will really be working to make up that last home game to their fans.

    Clemson 37
    GA Tech 17


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    OK fellas. We all suspect conspiracies, especially when we lose. They cant fix them all and I do subscribe to the notion that if the line is too good to be true then just stay the F&&k away.

    But I think I will take ole Stevopa's advice and attempt to inject some relevant logic to this debate.

    It is a given that GT relies on the run almost exclusively. In prime time on the road I do really believe you get some noise impact with synchronizing the snap count. O-lineman dont get as consistent or great an advantage from knowing the snap count on the road.

    I couple this with Clemson's defense this year being relatively strong on the road. Against teams that rely on the run most, they have played well Defensively. (BC, UVA, Wake) and they also held FSU to 3.2 ypc in that debacle three weeks ago.

    Feel like Clemson will really be working to make up that last home game to their fans.

    Clemson 37
    GA Tech 17


     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2013 - 6:50 PM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by VsTheSpread:

    Lynch ran for 123 yards on 20 carries and 2 TDs. if they couldn't stop him up to that point, why would they stop him with 1:26 to go?

    There is a "IF ONLY" in every football game that could have changed the outcome. NIU dropped three potential pick sixes in that game. "If only" the held on to one of those, Ball st would not have covered even if they DID stop Lynch in the end.

    Tonight is a little different, Clemson has a lot of players on defense listed as questionable. And they may still win by double digits. But Clemson has no incentive to blow out this team.



    I dont know dude, i think clemson has every incentive to run up the score. they do need style points to remain relevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VsTheSpread:

    Lynch ran for 123 yards on 20 carries and 2 TDs. if they couldn't stop him up to that point, why would they stop him with 1:26 to go?

    There is a "IF ONLY" in every football game that could have changed the outcome. NIU dropped three potential pick sixes in that game. "If only" the held on to one of those, Ball st would not have covered even if they DID stop Lynch in the end.

    Tonight is a little different, Clemson has a lot of players on defense listed as questionable. And they may still win by double digits. But Clemson has no incentive to blow out this team.



    I dont know dude, i think clemson has every incentive to run up the score. they do need style points to remain relevant.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2013 - 6:51 PM ET #40

    and if you can give any detail on this alleged report that Boyd is in the hole to bookie that would be nice.
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    and if you can give any detail on this alleged report that Boyd is in the hole to bookie that would be nice.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2013 - 7:04 PM ET #41

    clemson -10 at -120
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    clemson -10 at -120
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2013 - 7:06 PM ET #42

    If you are betting CLEMSON and OVER. Please DON'T. Save your money for later game. I don't post often, but just listen to me. This game GT will cover and it is staying way under 61.
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    If you are betting CLEMSON and OVER. Please DON'T. Save your money for later game. I don't post often, but just listen to me. This game GT will cover and it is staying way under 61.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mccharming:

    If you are betting CLEMSON and OVER. Please DON'T. Save your money for later game. I don't post often, but just listen to me. This game GT will cover and it is staying way under 61.
    Please, people, come with an explanation or detailed thought in your posts.  Like Low-Roller did, I will try and get the ball rolling.  GT has a good ground game but it can be limited with a strong D-Line.  If no run game, then GT has no chance to score a large number of points.  Leaning on Clemson for this reason: GT has trouble stopping passing offenses.  Take a look at games versus BYU and Miami, Virginia even. Also, taking a game from earlier in the year: NC had success throwing the ball with Renner to Ebron.  The rain in that game limited big plays but I can certainly see Boyd to Watkins happening a lot tonight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mccharming:

    If you are betting CLEMSON and OVER. Please DON'T. Save your money for later game. I don't post often, but just listen to me. This game GT will cover and it is staying way under 61.
    Please, people, come with an explanation or detailed thought in your posts.  Like Low-Roller did, I will try and get the ball rolling.  GT has a good ground game but it can be limited with a strong D-Line.  If no run game, then GT has no chance to score a large number of points.  Leaning on Clemson for this reason: GT has trouble stopping passing offenses.  Take a look at games versus BYU and Miami, Virginia even. Also, taking a game from earlier in the year: NC had success throwing the ball with Renner to Ebron.  The rain in that game limited big plays but I can certainly see Boyd to Watkins happening a lot tonight.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2013 - 7:31 PM ET #44

    Under 62.5... Thursday under special two good defensive teams. 31-20 
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    Under 62.5... Thursday under special two good defensive teams. 31-20 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2013 - 10:09 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by stevopa:

    You actually did not answer for him.  You gave a logical explanation to a question, though you answered the wrong question.  Surfnturf is just fading the public for the sole purpose of fading the public, not because he believes in bonehead conspiracy theories like you do.  BTW, just because it worked last week, Surfnturf, doesn't mean it works at all.  It can be chalked up to coincidence or statistical anomalies. I'm not saying Clemson or GT covers: I'm saying that species reasoning, false logic, and conspiracy theories are ridiculous reasons for wagering but perfectly suitable for simpleton's like you both.

    MGM knows what im saying.... just saying beware of everyone on one side. it happens all the time in the NFL. sometimes you just have to fade. sometimes it works and its something to consider. take a look after this weekend and see if all the 70 percent games cover. I bet not

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevopa:

    You actually did not answer for him.  You gave a logical explanation to a question, though you answered the wrong question.  Surfnturf is just fading the public for the sole purpose of fading the public, not because he believes in bonehead conspiracy theories like you do.  BTW, just because it worked last week, Surfnturf, doesn't mean it works at all.  It can be chalked up to coincidence or statistical anomalies. I'm not saying Clemson or GT covers: I'm saying that species reasoning, false logic, and conspiracy theories are ridiculous reasons for wagering but perfectly suitable for simpleton's like you both.

    MGM knows what im saying.... just saying beware of everyone on one side. it happens all the time in the NFL. sometimes you just have to fade. sometimes it works and its something to consider. take a look after this weekend and see if all the 70 percent games cover. I bet not

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2013 - 1:31 AM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by DJNY:

    Under 62.5... Thursday under special two good defensive teams. 31-20 

    Rookies never learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJNY:

    Under 62.5... Thursday under special two good defensive teams. 31-20 

    Rookies never learn.

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