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Hawaii at Army (09/11/2010)

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Away:  Hawaii [1-0 ATS]
Home:  Army [0-1 ATS]

Game Time: 12:00 PM
Stadium: Michie Stadium

Recent Meetings:
11/22/03 - ARMY 28 vs. HAW 59

Team Leaders:

Hawaii:
Passing: Bryant Moniz (269)
Rushing: Alex Green (66)
Receiving: Kealoha Pilares (176)

Army:
Passing: Trent Steelman (65)
Rushing: Patrick Mealy (81)
Receiving: George Jordan (34)

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not sure if Moniz is gonna play.. if he does, Hawaii big!! 
 
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I like Hawaii too! Though I don't know if I will bet on it...

Probably not a bad Idea to take all the teams that are 1-0 ATS getting + points vs. teams that are 0-1 ATS.

Most likely a winning formula... GL Gents.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by oahuboy808:

not sure if Moniz is gonna play.. if he does, Hawaii big!! 


Absolute truth right here. i seen the army - east Michigan game and eastern got what they wanted but couldn't stop the army rush.. but then again i don't know if Hawaii can do it either
 
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E. Michigan should be one of the worst teams in football this year and Army couldn't stop them... that's a huge concern for me.  But maybe E. Michigan is not as bad as people think.. only time will tell.  But if i'm on this game it would have to be on Hawaii... Hawaii should be able to stop them a few times.... Army shouldn't be able to keep up the scoring.  Sharp
 
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What concerns me the most is the Army LB situation.  1 starter out, 2 starters questionable... although maybe that will help them since they sucked last week.

I see Army trying to control the clock and keep the Hawaii offense off the field.

Still trying to figure out if I'll play this game or not.

 
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Hawaii gained almost 600 total yards of offense against USC. Army snuck out a win against a team who won 0 games last year...0-12...ZERO.

Hawaii has arrived in the eastern time zone yesterday which gives them ample time to adjust to a 12:00pm game (which would be closer to 6am their time)

I originally expected to see Hawaii 6-10 pts favs. This line confuses me.
 
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good info on when Hawaii arrived to West Point, I was actually wondering when they would get in
 
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Army -3
 
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I'll take Army. Control the clock, keep the Bows off the field and run, run and run some more. Bows won't stop the run, Army scores, Bows bow.
 
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Hawaii QB Bryant Moniz expected to play

September, 6, 2010
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Hawaii quarterback Bryant Moniz took a vicious hit late in the third quarter against USC last week, but is expected to play Saturday against Army, coach Greg McMackin said.

Moniz was hit by linebacker Michael Morgan after a 13-yard scramble down to the USC 5 yard-line and looked woozy when he got up Thursday night. He missed the remainder of the game, and also sat out practice Saturday. No penalty was called on the play, as it appeared Morgan did not intentionally try to hit him in the head. But McMackin sent tape of the hit into the league office for an explanation about why no flag was thrown.

"I don’t think the USC kid did it intentionally. He’s just playing football," McMakin said on the WAC conference call. "We just want to get things, we’d like to understand how the officials saw it."

As for Moniz, he was having a terrific game before he went out, going 18-of-36 for 269 yards and a touchdown. McMackin said Moniz showed no concussion symptoms afterward, but doctors have been monitoring him.

"I see him playing," McMackin said. "The doctors are looking at him every day. His health is really important to us ... they’ve been watching him."

Even with Moniz out of the game, his backups picked up right where he left off. Shane Austin went 6-of-9 for 141 yards and two touchdowns, and Brent Rausch was 3-of-4 for 49 yards.

Hawaii faces the start of a 13-day cross-country road trip starting this week as it heads to West Point, the farthest game east for the Warriors in school history. The team will leave for the East Coast on Tuesday night and arrive in New Jersey on Wednesday morning. The Warriors will then practice there before doing a walk-through at Army. When the teams kick off Saturday, it will be 6 a.m. Hawaii time.

After the game, Hawaii heads to Las Vegas, where it will stay for the week before playing at Colorado on Sept. 18. The entire trip will cover more than 11,000 miles.

McMackin is not too concerned, considering his team practices in the morning.

"We're used to traveling," McMackin said. "Our guys, they’re very disciplined and they do a very good job of it. It’s a challenge we’ll just have to take care of."
 
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Hawaii is a solid little team.......ask yourself this before you consider putting money on Army in the narrow game.  Could Army have hosted USC last week and given them a game?  Could they have put up almost 600 yards of offense and over 30 points and had USC scared the whole second half and needing a couple of big plays to win by less than 2 tds?????   Army played E Mich last week right???  Now come on........just pound on the Warriors here and count your money Saturday night.
 
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bigdaddy?
 
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  Small lean on Hawaii. Can't see Army favored over anybody (2 units)
 
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Quote Originally Posted by fastpitchdad:

bigdaddy?

I'm not sure if i'm touching this one but...

The Warriors did surprise me last week when they put up a fight against USC...I mean our 3rd string qb even looked decent against USC when he had to step in.

The one thing about military teams is that they need to stay at required military weight/size even though they play football. Normally the Warriors face teams that are much bigger in size and get dominated at the line. In this case I don't see Army's line dominating on either side of the ball.

The concern that I do see is if the Warriors on defense can stop that crazy running game from Army. If the Warriors defense can seal the edge and not let Army wear out the defense I see the Warriors pulling out a victory in this one.

Moniz should be back for this one for the Warriors but if not our back up qb's showed last week that they can step up and take over. We actually have a running game going on offense and our Wr's showed a lot of heart last week. I was actually shocked that some of our wideouts got behind their corners.

If i'm going to touch this one my money would be on the Warriors.

Good luck on whatever you choose my friend

 
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Moniz is starting. The only fear here is tha Hawai'i never does well in Eastern time zone.  Hawai'i has never won a game playing past the Mississippi river.  It's your money. The key is for Hawai'i to get Army off the field as long as possible.
 
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thanks bigdaddy, i really think hawaii is the better team but it is a longggg way to travelwaiting for a tuesday night game
 
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Always take an east coast team at a noon kickoff against a west coast team, you will win a high percentage of these picks



Army (Cant get any further west then Hawaii!)

Takes more then a few days to adjust to the time and the travel had to effect the practice schedule
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Irisheyez:

Hawaii is a solid little team.......ask yourself this before you consider putting money on Army in the narrow game.  Could Army have hosted USC last week and given them a game?  Could they have put up almost 600 yards of offense and over 30 points and had USC scared the whole second half and needing a couple of big plays to win by less than 2 tds?????   Army played E Mich last week right???  Now come on........just pound on the Warriors here and count your money Saturday night.
Keep Betting teams bc of what they did last week and see how far that gets you in this field. USC might be the most overrated college team in the land with a subpar defense. Hawaii played their national championship last week hung for a while but came up short. Do you really think hawaii is going to be gung ho about flying 12 plus hours to play a game at west point when they just threw hands in the ring vs usc??? Marshall lost by 40 vs ohio st and the world saw that and thought west virg would roll them....west virginia has to make the best comeback in years just to win nevertheless cover. Asking how army would do vs USC is the wrong way at looking or capping games bc every week and every match up is a whole different ball game. ARMY EASY FOLKS LIP
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Irisheyez:

Hawaii is a solid little team.......ask yourself this before you consider putting money on Army in the narrow game.  Could Army have hosted USC last week and given them a game?  Could they have put up almost 600 yards of offense and over 30 points and had USC scared the whole second half and needing a couple of big plays to win by less than 2 tds?????   Army played E Mich last week right???  Now come on........just pound on the Warriors here and count your money Saturday night.

 

 
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Heres a little insite for some of you folks.


Hawaii Landed on the East Coast TUESDAY NIGHT! They have been on EST since TUESDAY. No jet lag, they have been practicing in the Early AM.


MONIZ is going to get the START


Whatifsports.com a computer simulation page, has HAWAII WINNING 75% of the time.

BOL TO ALL

 
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hawaii can't stop any good rushing team...army will control the tempo and win the game by a td
 
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on Hawaii here.. small play though.. BoL 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Optimist_Prime:

hawaii can't stop any good rushing team...army will control the tempo and win the game by a td


Hawaii did a good job of stuffing Navy's option last year.  Hawaii has a problem with BIG running backs...does Army have a big back?  I like Hawaii's ability to game plan against a triple option team.  Coincidentally, both head coaches for Army and Navy played for Hawaii when Hawaii ran the triple option.

Hawaii will win this game by 10 points.

Good luck to all
 
 
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I'm reading what everyone is saying, and I like all the useful info in this thread.  However, my gut was Army and I'm sticking with it despite Hawaii arriving on Tuesday.  They handled Navy option last year but that was a home game... a long way to travel for Navy.  Basically reverse it this year, and I see bettors picking based off Hawaii's game against powerhouse USC last week.

Small play:  Army -3 +104 (1 unit) 

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