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Last several years my diet has been excellent - Low Carb & very healthy choices. I gave up Booze & made a consistent effort to eat well. I lost alot of fat around my belly and toned up significantly............

........Unfortunately the end of last year i let myself go a little while we were on X-mas holidays and continued to eat junk into early 2012........I then decided to gain for about 2 or 3 months to bulk up. Unfortunately the bad eating habit continued post-gain as a result of the majority of the year eating junk. It is now December & it's almost been a year of this horrible pattern in my diet.

I decided start of Novemeber that i would cut the carbs & junk and start eating clean. But it's just been too long now and have been giving into my cravings. IF anybody remembers me i'm the one who started that 'How to lose a beer gut' thread which got 10+ pages. Well as much of fat i did lose around my belly it's almost like i'm back to that state rfom 4-5 yrs ago. not as bad but it's been too long, i've been working out consistently to not have results by now.

I also have been eating after 7-8pm which i have not done for almost 2-3 yrs prior to this year. How do i not give into my cravings and tips to stay full and satisfied that i dont eat and get hungry after 7-8 pm.....................
 
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Here are some foods that are good for weight loss.  

Green Tea.. 
Ruby Grapefruit juice 8 ounces before each meal (pending if you are on medication)
Cinnamon
Hot spices in general.

Also foods i like are those low carb ones where you can binge as much as you like. Cauliflower, Broccoli, Cuecumbers, and that sort of thing.

You can find more info on those mentioned on google.

 
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what are you eating?  how many nuts re you eating, what kind and how often? 

drink green tea at night. 
 
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I absolutely love to eat.  I'm almost 6 feet and probably weigh 175 so I'm not overweight.  One trick I use is to eat the healthy stuff first.....so I don't eat quite as much of the maybe not so healthy stuff.  For example, sometimes I'll eat an apple or some carrots or whatever....good fiber.....about 15 minutes before I actually have "lunch."  After 15 minutes, I'm not nearly as hungry so I'll eat a lean pork chop with maybe a half of a potato (but I'll lube it up with a decent amount of light sour cream). So you get some protein and also a little bit of a carb fix.....and some fat (which you do need).  

Or sometimes I'll do tostitos (not great for you) with guac (good for you) for an appetizer.  And then I'll throw in a turkey sandwich (homemade turkey, not that crap they slice at the deli) and maybe some fruit or veggies with light ranch.  Half a bag of M and M's for dessert.  

If I've eaten really healthy for a few days, my body craves something not good for you.....and I'll indulge and not look back.  

For me, it's impossible to eat healthy all the time so I try to kind of intermix so I get the things that are good for you, but still get some satisfaction along the way.  
 
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in the end it comes down to how badly you want it. 

you can ask for all the advice and tips ect but at the end of the day the strength of your willpower is what will or won't get it done. 

You don't have to be perfect ALL of the time, just MOST of the time. 'Cheat' meals every so often are an important thing to help keep you on track mentally. 

If you want to change your physique, dramatically and for the better, you've gotta suffer. That's all there is to it. I had to do it day after day after day to get from 23% bodyfat to 6.5% for my first competition. 

I promise you this - if you can master yourself in this way you'll acquire a new level of inner strength and self confidence. 

 

 
 
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I typically eat grapefruits like they are oranges. Just something I have always loved and they help to fill me up prior to eating my breakfast, lunch, dinner, etc.

Helps me a great deal with my cravings.

 
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start with a 12/12 fast, which means you eat all your calories within the same 12 hr period every day.

eat 6 meals a day (thats every 2.5 hrs)

drink green rea or black coffee to kill hunger cravings 
 
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Best thing to eat for weight loss:

PU**Y

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Jive_Turkey:

in the end it comes down to how badly you want it. 

you can ask for all the advice and tips ect but at the end of the day the strength of your willpower is what will or won't get it done. 

You don't have to be perfect ALL of the time, just MOST of the time. 'Cheat' meals every so often are an important thing to help keep you on track mentally. 

If you want to change your physique, dramatically and for the better, you've gotta suffer. That's all there is to it. I had to do it day after day after day to get from 23% bodyfat to 6.5% for my first competition. 

I promise you this - if you can master yourself in this way you'll acquire a new level of inner strength and self confidence. 

 

 
i really appreciate all the replies in here but this...........

you.............YOU....................YEAH YOOOUUUUU!!!!!..........


Your response DID IT!!



Not long after i made this post i whent on vacation w/ my family back home to the Philippines where i got even worse. I completely and absolutely surrendered to all the food there. I'm talking about rice, deserts made of rice. All sorts of filipino deserts ice cream, sweets w/ ice cream in it. Rice & more rice for breakfast, lunch & dinner. booze and very minimal gym time. In fact i only did 5 gym sessions in a month.

I come back to home Australia w/ more weight on especially around my belly. My belly & hips have put on significant amount of fat. My diet still the same as i couldn't change my nasty habits. I  remembered this post and read through and your reply absolutely motivated me..............


........."If you want to change your physique, dramatically and for the better, you've gotta suffer. That's all there is to it."

As soon as i read 'you've got to suffer' it became my mantra and instantly i ate ZERO CARBS for 5 days straight!!!

You are the fuckin' man!

i'm still on zero carbs and going strong part from one day where i had kfc for dinner.


I love this site! and i love you Jive Turkey. You don't know how appreciative i am of you and all of you who replied also. You reminded me of the sacrifice, dedication and commitment needed to achieve what you want. I continue to suffer, it's what i do best and am always ready for!


THank you my friend
 
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Not much suffering if just want to drop pounds....... "Competing" sure..... but just dropping pounds and trimming up shouldn't be that hard.

There are plenty of foods that taste great and are good for you.  Just gotta try to stick to those.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by FriedShrimp:

Not much suffering if just want to drop pounds....... "Competing" sure..... but just dropping pounds and trimming up shouldn't be that hard.

There are plenty of foods that taste great and are good for you.  Just gotta try to stick to those.

for me the mention of  'suffering' triggered the motivation in me & was exactly what i needed to re-focus and get back into gear after almost a year of lazy dieting/and mental lapses. I badly want a six pack. W/ 2 kids both being under 5 yo, a mortgage and work it's very difficult to find the time to plan meals and work outs so it's very easy to get into a funk. It's much easier to just give in and eat what ever just to satisfy hunger than actually discipline yourself to eat clean on a daily basis year in and year out. and w/ that sort of schedule and commitments it's easy to fall off and fall into temptations.


'Suffering' is exactly what i needed to hear to get back on track mentally. Suffer may not be to the extent of the level of sacrifices some of you may go through but i go through it none the less wether it's trying not to eat that piece of carb before bed after a week of very minimal carbs or doing that last rep at the end of a very tiring work out.


I answer to suffering because i've been through alot of hardships and know that only positive things come from suffering if you learn to aknowledge blessings. I'm rambling, hella tired right now......
 
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but anyways...........


atm i've scheduled myself to eat zero-minimal carbs (30-40gm) 5 days a week and then have weekends off & allow myself carbs. This way long term i won't end up binging after years of resistance & discipline.

What do you think of the 5 days no carbs and 2 days on weekends permit carbs sort of system?!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by 3BallBomber:

but anyways...........


atm i've scheduled myself to eat zero-minimal carbs (30-40gm) 5 days a week and then have weekends off & allow myself carbs. This way long term i won't end up binging after years of resistance & discipline.

What do you think of the 5 days no carbs and 2 days on weekends permit carbs sort of system?!

IMO........ I would definately do low carb if trying to drop weight.  But that's hard to do.  30-40 is pretty extreme.  If was me, I'd shoot for 75.

Dropping weight is 90% nutrition.  Really need to get a grip on the diet.  And I don't know how people do it without cooking their own food.

If time is a challenge, cook a few days at a time.  Make a few days of chicken per batch.  That's what a lot of people do.

 
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Down the road.......... it'll get much easier if you find healthy food that you like.

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by FriedShrimp:

IMO........ I would definately do low carb if trying to drop weight.  But that's hard to do.  30-40 is pretty extreme.  If was me, I'd shoot for 75.

Dropping weight is 90% nutrition.  Really need to get a grip on the diet.  And I don't know how people do it without cooking their own food.

If time is a challenge, cook a few days at a time.  Make a few days of chicken per batch.  That's what a lot of people do.

to be honest i try to aim for 30-40 but i know it's way more on some days - pretty sure over 100gm's.

I'm not trying to drop weight as i have really toned up but it's my gut that is still the problem. So the low carbing is to shed belly fat as my long term aim is a 6 pack.

I've now altered it my day off is now just Saturday rather than the entire weekend. Just until i get my discipline and cravings in order. Once i start eating cleaner and have cravings under wraps as best as i can i'll go the full week for as long as i can until i get some results.

 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by FriedShrimp:

 Really need to get a grip on the diet.  And I don't know how people do it without cooking their own food.

If time is a challenge, cook a few days at a time.  Make a few days of chicken per batch.  That's what a lot of people do.

your right. more often than not the kids, work and family has left me no time to cook and end up winging the diet and my days wich end up all messy.

What chicken exactly - boiled chicken breasts?
 
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Please watch Forks over Knives. Its on Netflix. or you can buy on youtube for $3.99


Here is the trailer. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPJbYAYzP04
 
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Quote Originally Posted by 3BallBomber:

but anyways...........


atm i've scheduled myself to eat zero-minimal carbs (30-40gm) 5 days a week and then have weekends off & allow myself carbs. This way long term i won't end up binging after years of resistance & discipline.

What do you think of the 5 days no carbs and 2 days on weekends permit carbs sort of system?!

looks like you've been reading up on the ketogenic diet ? 

it's an effective way to lose fat but those carb 're-feeds' are also an important part of it. For some it might be a high carb day, or two days of high carbs (see the 'anabolic diet') or it might just be half a day of high carbs or even just one high carb 'cheat' meal for the week. 

Depending on how lean you are / how much fat you need to lose, will determine how big or how small of a carb rebound you allow yourself. 

You might surprise yourself 3Ball in how good you actually feel / perform / function on very low carbs. For a lot of people the first few days are tough until your body makes a switch to 'burning' ketones. 

Personally I do much better restricting carbs at certain times of the day, even when I'm in a 'bulking' phase. Am currently trying 'carb backloading' - where you eat very low / no starchy carbs at all through the day until after your workout. Then you consume a all your carbs for the day in the two / three meals post your workout. 

Even in the first week on this my workouts have been vastly improved - eating just protein / fats all day prior to hitting the gym has kept my blood sugar levels really stable during training, as opposed to the bouts of hypoglycemia that used to hit after eating a high carb meal pre-workout. 

Anyway, stick with what you're doing and you're sure to see the results you're after. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Jive_Turkey:

in the end it comes down to how badly you want it. 

you can ask for all the advice and tips ect but at the end of the day the strength of your willpower is what will or won't get it done. 

You don't have to be perfect ALL of the time, just MOST of the time. 'Cheat' meals every so often are an important thing to help keep you on track mentally. 

If you want to change your physique, dramatically and for the better, you've gotta suffer. That's all there is to it. I had to do it day after day after day to get from 23% bodyfat to 6.5% for my first competition. 

I promise you this - if you can master yourself in this way you'll acquire a new level of inner strength and self confidence. 

 

 


Exactly what he said. You have to sacrifice taste, period.

"If it taste good, spit it out"-Jack La Lanne. The man was a beast.

Set goals and keep with them. Keep the carrot in front of the horse and you'll never have a fat horse.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Jive_Turkey:


looks like you've been reading up on the ketogenic diet ? 
 


ketogenic diet? i don't know what that is. I'm just trying to tweak my schedule within this diet & see if the changes work for me. Unfortunately what the 2 day weekend of permitted carbs did was made me crave the bad food more during the week. So i cut it down to just Saturday and then that didnt work so i cut it out all together and just try to do minimal carbs every day.

On bad days i probably do close to 100+ carbs and some of that after 7 or 8pm....wich we all know is a no no. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Jive_Turkey:


it's an effective way to lose fat but those carb 're-feeds' are also an important part of it. For some it might be a high carb day, or two days of high carbs (see the 'anabolic diet') or it might just be half a day of high carbs or even just one high carb 'cheat' meal for the week. 

Depending on how lean you are / how much fat you need to lose, will determine how big or how small of a carb rebound you allow yourself. 
 
i try to allow myself a cheat meal per week or two lol.

so how exactly does this 'ketogenic diet' benefit losing weight by allowing carbs days. how does that impact the body exactly. sounds interesting!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Jive_Turkey:


You might surprise yourself 3Ball in how good you actually feel / perform / function on very low carbs. For a lot of people the first few days are tough until your body makes a switch to 'burning' ketones.
in my first 2 years low carbing i was an absolute beast. my discipline and determination was on point. i prob did 50gm carbs p/day. I toned up significantly while shedding belly fat. And yes energy wise i was still good. as long as your still consuming iron, magnesium, protein and complex carbs your good.

Quote Originally Posted by Jive_Turkey:

Personally I do much better restricting carbs at certain times of the day, even when I'm in a 'bulking' phase. Am currently trying 'carb backloading' - where you eat very low / no starchy carbs at all through the day until after your workout. Then you consume a all your carbs for the day in the two / three meals post your workout. 

Even in the first week on this my workouts have been vastly improved - eating just protein / fats all day prior to hitting the gym has kept my blood sugar levels really stable during training, as opposed to the bouts of hypoglycemia that used to hit after eating a high carb meal pre-workout.
what does the carb back loading achieve?

Quote Originally Posted by Jive_Turkey:

Anyway, stick with what you're doing and you're sure to see the results you're after. 
results are slow. i've been trying to lose my belly fat for quite some time now. None the less i'll soldier on and continue the battle.

Always love and appreciate replies.
 
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^^wish i could edit the last 2 replies i quoted. have some important questions in there Jive Turkey. hopefully you'll be able to see where your reply ends and where mine starts.
 
 
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I have been attempting this for years in order to lose this belly fat and let me tell you what I have done recently and it's working VERY well. "You eat what's in front of you." My Grandma says this every day. Mostly cause she has dementia, but still she does say it. And I finally took it to heart.

As long as I can remember I would go shopping and get whatever and just attempt to still eat clean and save the junk for my cheat day. And for as long as I can remember I would just graze that shi.t all week.

For the past two months I have stocked my house with nothing but bags of frozen chicken breasts for meals along with rice, and TONS of fruit. I mean a ton. And I still eat a lot it's just not a bag of chips, its a bowl of fruit. I am shedding LBs. And fresh fruit is great so I don't complain.

Anyway, that's my key to success and it is working wonders.
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