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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2012 - 1:54 AM ET #1

    https://www.windsorstar.com/sports/Sports+betting+bill+passes+committee/6167310/story.html

     

    2 hours from my front door.

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    https://www.windsorstar.com/sports/Sports+betting+bill+passes+committee/6167310/story.html

     

    2 hours from my front door.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 20, 2012 - 2:53 PM ET #2

    [Quote: Originally Posted by kaplan]

    https://www.windsorstar.com/sports/Sports+betting+bill+passes+committee/6167310/story.html

     

    2 hours from my front door.

    Let's hope it passes. Those 2-3 game Proline parlays are killer.
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by kaplan]

    https://www.windsorstar.com/sports/Sports+betting+bill+passes+committee/6167310/story.html

     

    2 hours from my front door.

    Let's hope it passes. Those 2-3 game Proline parlays are killer.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2012 - 2:18 PM ET #3

    https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1140242--commons-legalizes-single-game-sports-betting
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    https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1140242--commons-legalizes-single-game-sports-betting
     
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2012 - 4:58 PM ET #4

    I cant wait........I can be in Windsor in 30 minutes!
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    I cant wait........I can be in Windsor in 30 minutes!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2012 - 6:36 PM ET #5

    frankie are u a D boy over there by the river
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    frankie are u a D boy over there by the river
     
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2012 - 9:34 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by kaplan:

    https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1140242--commons-legalizes-single-game-sports-betting

    Link doesn't work. Was it in today's Star?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaplan:

    https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1140242--commons-legalizes-single-game-sports-betting

    Link doesn't work. Was it in today's Star?
     
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    Posted: Mar. 4, 2012 - 9:54 PM ET #7

    https://www.windsorstar.com/sports/Comartin+betting+bill+Senate/6245351/story.html
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    https://www.windsorstar.com/sports/Comartin+betting+bill+Senate/6245351/story.html
     
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    Posted: Mar. 26, 2012 - 9:41 AM ET #8

    8 minutes from my door
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    8 minutes from my door
     
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    Posted: Aug. 2, 2012 - 6:34 PM ET #9

    Any news?
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    Any news?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2012 - 4:25 PM ET #10

    As of today (9/10/12) it is still in committee with no meetings scheduled. What a suprise (not). I'm sure the fix is in and the U. S. is putting pressure on Canada to kill this bill. Here is a link to the committee. It is Bill C-290.

     

    https://www.parl.gc.ca/sencommitteebusiness/CommitteeStudies.aspx?parl=41&ses=1&Language=E&comm_id=11&p=1

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    As of today (9/10/12) it is still in committee with no meetings scheduled. What a suprise (not). I'm sure the fix is in and the U. S. is putting pressure on Canada to kill this bill. Here is a link to the committee. It is Bill C-290.

     

    https://www.parl.gc.ca/sencommitteebusiness/CommitteeStudies.aspx?parl=41&ses=1&Language=E&comm_id=11&p=1

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2012 - 8:23 PM ET #11

    Anyone see that BCLC is refunding losing bets on the Packers from last night's refereeing debacle?
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    Anyone see that BCLC is refunding losing bets on the Packers from last night's refereeing debacle?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2012 - 3:47 AM ET #12

    I refunded my clients on there packers bets also.
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    I refunded my clients on there packers bets also.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 26, 2012 - 10:00 AM ET #13

    For the love of all things holy - I hope this bill passes.

    Government has no idea how much revenue it'll bring.

    Bring bettors will cross the border - which also means, hotels, restaurants, golf courses, etc etc etc will also see a boom in business.

    GET IT DONE!
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    For the love of all things holy - I hope this bill passes.

    Government has no idea how much revenue it'll bring.

    Bring bettors will cross the border - which also means, hotels, restaurants, golf courses, etc etc etc will also see a boom in business.

    GET IT DONE!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2012 - 12:26 AM ET #14

    This bill is being debated at committee on Oct 4th.
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    This bill is being debated at committee on Oct 4th.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 30, 2012 - 10:47 AM ET #15

    Excellent! (Except for that little "subject to change" message on the right side.)
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    Excellent! (Except for that little "subject to change" message on the right side.)
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2012 - 11:43 AM ET #16

    The rumor is the the OLG (Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corporation) is going to run the single game sports betting in Ontario. They are the same outfit that runs the existing "parlay only" sports betting in Ontario. Unless their philosophy changes, they are not quite like the sports betting you are used to doing. First, they have a $200 maximum bet limit. Second, they don't put out a full card of games. they kind of pick and choose which games to offer. Third, they do not offer any NBA games. This is because of an agreement with the hypocritical NBA that banned NBA sports betting in Canada for the rights to have the Toronto Raptors locate in Canada. Fourth, it will cost you $8 to $12 to get back and forth from Canada.So, even though this bill will be a significant improvement over "Parlay only" betting it will not quite be what you expect. Personally, I believe Canada should turn over the sportsbooks to the gambling companies that know how to run them and just get their usually substantial cut of the take.

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    The rumor is the the OLG (Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corporation) is going to run the single game sports betting in Ontario. They are the same outfit that runs the existing "parlay only" sports betting in Ontario. Unless their philosophy changes, they are not quite like the sports betting you are used to doing. First, they have a $200 maximum bet limit. Second, they don't put out a full card of games. they kind of pick and choose which games to offer. Third, they do not offer any NBA games. This is because of an agreement with the hypocritical NBA that banned NBA sports betting in Canada for the rights to have the Toronto Raptors locate in Canada. Fourth, it will cost you $8 to $12 to get back and forth from Canada.So, even though this bill will be a significant improvement over "Parlay only" betting it will not quite be what you expect. Personally, I believe Canada should turn over the sportsbooks to the gambling companies that know how to run them and just get their usually substantial cut of the take.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2012 - 1:53 PM ET #17

    It looks looks they had the meeting. You can use the link in my other post to find the video of it. The video starts before the meeting actually starts but it finally gets going Their may also be a transcript somewhere but I haven't found it yet.
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    It looks looks they had the meeting. You can use the link in my other post to find the video of it. The video starts before the meeting actually starts but it finally gets going Their may also be a transcript somewhere but I haven't found it yet.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2012 - 2:41 PM ET #18

    This link to the C-290 bill meeting might work. I have listened to half of it and it doesn't sound to promising.

    https://hocca.wmod.llnwd.net/a4502/e2/20121004102422_8416_1041.wmv
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    This link to the C-290 bill meeting might work. I have listened to half of it and it doesn't sound to promising.

    https://hocca.wmod.llnwd.net/a4502/e2/20121004102422_8416_1041.wmv
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2012 - 11:26 AM ET #19

    Here is the link with info about the next 2 meetings for bill C-290. They are on 10/17/12 & 10/18/12. unless canceled.

    https://www.parl.gc.ca/SenCommitteeBusiness/CommitteeMeetingSchedule.aspx?parl=41&ses=1&Language=E&comm_id=11
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    Here is the link with info about the next 2 meetings for bill C-290. They are on 10/17/12 & 10/18/12. unless canceled.

    https://www.parl.gc.ca/SenCommitteeBusiness/CommitteeMeetingSchedule.aspx?parl=41&ses=1&Language=E&comm_id=11
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2012 - 4:43 PM ET #20

    I certainly hope the $200 max limit bet isn't true...but I've always figured that the max would be no more than $1000 to begin with anyways
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    I certainly hope the $200 max limit bet isn't true...but I've always figured that the max would be no more than $1000 to begin with anyways
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2012 - 8:45 AM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by rp-rt:

    Here is the link with info about the next 2 meetings for bill C-290. They are on 10/17/12 & 10/18/12. unless canceled.

    https://www.parl.gc.ca/SenCommitteeBusiness/CommitteeMeetingSchedule.aspx?parl=41&ses=1&Language=E&comm_id=11

    Fingers crossed. Government needs to realize the revenue this will generate. Will help with the debt a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rp-rt:

    Here is the link with info about the next 2 meetings for bill C-290. They are on 10/17/12 & 10/18/12. unless canceled.

    https://www.parl.gc.ca/SenCommitteeBusiness/CommitteeMeetingSchedule.aspx?parl=41&ses=1&Language=E&comm_id=11

    Fingers crossed. Government needs to realize the revenue this will generate. Will help with the debt a lot.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 8:53 PM ET #22

    Meeting tomorrow (10/24/12) and Thursday (10/25/12). The link in the post above will get you to them. Here is who is going to testify tomorrow.
    • Bill C-290, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (sports betting)
      • Paul Beeston, President and Chief Executive Officer (Toronto Blue Jays)
      • Thomas Ostertag, Senior Vice President and General Counsel (Major League Baseball)

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    Meeting tomorrow (10/24/12) and Thursday (10/25/12). The link in the post above will get you to them. Here is who is going to testify tomorrow.
    • Bill C-290, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (sports betting)
      • Paul Beeston, President and Chief Executive Officer (Toronto Blue Jays)
      • Thomas Ostertag, Senior Vice President and General Counsel (Major League Baseball)

     
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    Posted: Oct. 26, 2012 - 4:17 PM ET #23

    Good news guys, it looks like this is going to pass!

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/legalized-single-sports-betting-draws-mixed-reaction/article4673697/

    Hope we get an entirely reformed betting system here, Vegas styled!
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    Good news guys, it looks like this is going to pass!

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/legalized-single-sports-betting-draws-mixed-reaction/article4673697/

    Hope we get an entirely reformed betting system here, Vegas styled!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2012 - 11:46 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by torosFCP:


    Fingers crossed. Government needs to realize the revenue this will generate. Will help with the debt a lot.


    I found an interesting article/interview on CBC regarding this bill.  Here's part of the interview.

    https://www.cbc.ca/sports/story/2012/10/26/sp-leagues-sports-betting-law.html

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    CBCSports.ca spoke with Jim Warren, president and CEO of Riseley Gaming Inc., to get a better understanding of the bill. He is part-owner of Canada's only privately owned and operated casino, located in Moncton, N.B.

    Why was the bill introduced?

    Warren: It was primarily done by the provinces that have border casinos to try and get Americans to cross the border and come over to Niagara Falls and Windsor. That was the original idea and why the request was made to the federal government to make the change.

    For years, people in Detroit went to Windsor because there were no casinos there. So when there was competition, people decided to stop going.

    There's been a massive decline of Americans crossing the border due to Sept. 11, the mandatory use of passports when crossing the border and the price in gas.

    The idea is you could put together a package on Final Four weekend, the World Series, etc. and get Americans to return to Canadian casinos because they can do single-event sports betting instead of multi-event.

    How much will the government earn?

    Warren: It's not going to be a huge moneymaker, because ProLine is so profitable for Ontario now. It's really about giving Americans incentive to come back to Canada to visit Niagara Falls and Windsor. It’s primarily based on that.

    It will repatriate some grey matter betting that happens now on the internet. People will now be able to make that same bet legally. It's not, at the end of day, a huge government windfall, but it’s about creating a fun environment for people to come back to the casinos.

    The government won't earn a lot of money?

    Warren: Really, no. When you look at ProLine in Ontario, it's one of the most profitable sportsbooks in the world.

    They make so much more money by having the multi-events. It will make more money for the governments, but it's not a huge cash grab. It’s more focused on economic development and protection of jobs on the border cities.

    It's more to ensure the border casinos have something to compete with that their American counterparts don't have to offer.

    Why are pro sports resistant?

    Warren: When you have multi-event betting, when there’s three different outcomes, it's nearly impossible for one-person to affect the outcome. The leagues are doing their due diligence to make sure there's not a situation where one individual or a referee or a manager can make a huge impact.

    Now, there's so much transparency with the way gambling works, with the way huge bets are made, with security, etc.

    It's more an understanding on how the system would work and what measures would be in place to prevent bad things from happening. With any change like this, an abundance of caution is a good idea.

    I think that if you can put in enough protective measures, you can have single-event betting occur and still not have people engage in criminal activity. In Ontario, right now, you can go on the internet and make the same bet with less regulation.

    So really, at the end of the day, there's going to be more measures.

    You are going to have to physically go into a casino. You will be on a security camera. Any transaction over $10,000 is logged inside the casinos. So those measures are in place to have transparency and integrity in the games.

    If the law is passed, how soon will we see single-event sports betting?

    Warren: In 2007, they spent the money in Ontario at Casino Niagara and they have a sportsbook now where you can make ProLine bets in Niagara Falls. Those ProLine bets pay out differently from the same bets you make at the corner store.

    It’s a different set of rules and regulations. So the government, I believe, is ready to have a turnkey operation. So once they get permission, it will be months, if not weeks, for them to implement it to the border sites.


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    Quote Originally Posted by torosFCP:


    Fingers crossed. Government needs to realize the revenue this will generate. Will help with the debt a lot.


    I found an interesting article/interview on CBC regarding this bill.  Here's part of the interview.

    https://www.cbc.ca/sports/story/2012/10/26/sp-leagues-sports-betting-law.html

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    CBCSports.ca spoke with Jim Warren, president and CEO of Riseley Gaming Inc., to get a better understanding of the bill. He is part-owner of Canada's only privately owned and operated casino, located in Moncton, N.B.

    Why was the bill introduced?

    Warren: It was primarily done by the provinces that have border casinos to try and get Americans to cross the border and come over to Niagara Falls and Windsor. That was the original idea and why the request was made to the federal government to make the change.

    For years, people in Detroit went to Windsor because there were no casinos there. So when there was competition, people decided to stop going.

    There's been a massive decline of Americans crossing the border due to Sept. 11, the mandatory use of passports when crossing the border and the price in gas.

    The idea is you could put together a package on Final Four weekend, the World Series, etc. and get Americans to return to Canadian casinos because they can do single-event sports betting instead of multi-event.

    How much will the government earn?

    Warren: It's not going to be a huge moneymaker, because ProLine is so profitable for Ontario now. It's really about giving Americans incentive to come back to Canada to visit Niagara Falls and Windsor. It’s primarily based on that.

    It will repatriate some grey matter betting that happens now on the internet. People will now be able to make that same bet legally. It's not, at the end of day, a huge government windfall, but it’s about creating a fun environment for people to come back to the casinos.

    The government won't earn a lot of money?

    Warren: Really, no. When you look at ProLine in Ontario, it's one of the most profitable sportsbooks in the world.

    They make so much more money by having the multi-events. It will make more money for the governments, but it's not a huge cash grab. It’s more focused on economic development and protection of jobs on the border cities.

    It's more to ensure the border casinos have something to compete with that their American counterparts don't have to offer.

    Why are pro sports resistant?

    Warren: When you have multi-event betting, when there’s three different outcomes, it's nearly impossible for one-person to affect the outcome. The leagues are doing their due diligence to make sure there's not a situation where one individual or a referee or a manager can make a huge impact.

    Now, there's so much transparency with the way gambling works, with the way huge bets are made, with security, etc.

    It's more an understanding on how the system would work and what measures would be in place to prevent bad things from happening. With any change like this, an abundance of caution is a good idea.

    I think that if you can put in enough protective measures, you can have single-event betting occur and still not have people engage in criminal activity. In Ontario, right now, you can go on the internet and make the same bet with less regulation.

    So really, at the end of the day, there's going to be more measures.

    You are going to have to physically go into a casino. You will be on a security camera. Any transaction over $10,000 is logged inside the casinos. So those measures are in place to have transparency and integrity in the games.

    If the law is passed, how soon will we see single-event sports betting?

    Warren: In 2007, they spent the money in Ontario at Casino Niagara and they have a sportsbook now where you can make ProLine bets in Niagara Falls. Those ProLine bets pay out differently from the same bets you make at the corner store.

    It’s a different set of rules and regulations. So the government, I believe, is ready to have a turnkey operation. So once they get permission, it will be months, if not weeks, for them to implement it to the border sites.


     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2012 - 12:42 PM ET #25

    So wait, if Bill C-290 passes, the OLGC only plans on having the single game sports betting at Casinos?

    Fuck that. I thought it would be available any more there is a lotto retailer like a corner store.


    Hmmmmmmmmm
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    So wait, if Bill C-290 passes, the OLGC only plans on having the single game sports betting at Casinos?

    Fuck that. I thought it would be available any more there is a lotto retailer like a corner store.


    Hmmmmmmmmm
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