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benhogan76

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Posted: Feb. 4, 2015 - 10:50 PM ET #26

Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

If terrorism was truly the main concern of the United States (it isn't) then destroying the Iraqi Armed Forces and killing Saddam was the dumbest possible move. On top of that, the US backed the "rebels" against Assad's Syrian Armed Forces. The US completely destabilized the region.

There would still be anger because we've been furthering the agenda of the US and the agenda of large corporations over there for a long time. Bin Laden gave some of their reasons in his 'letter to America'. I'm not saying he's 100 percent right and the US is 100 percent wrong.. But the debate is a lot more competitive than 99.999% of Americans think it is.. Obviously.. Propaganda works.

is that a yes or no

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Posted: Feb. 5, 2015 - 1:39 AM ET #27

Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

ISIS only exists because the US created chaos in the Middle East..

Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria.. Iran is next.

It's amusing that Americans can look at others and say they're the bad guys, we're the good guys.

How about you leave? Go live in Yemen or something.

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Posted: Feb. 5, 2015 - 8:34 AM ET #28

Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

If Bush doesn't create a quagmire in the Middle East, ISIS doesn't exist. If the US backs Assad in Syria when ISIS started gaining steam, ISIS doesn't exist.

In your little mind, you don't think the US did anything in the Middle East before the USS Cole or 9/11? What makes you think that?

Obama instigated the Arab Spring, and he created ISIS, with the help of the CIA.

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Posted: Feb. 5, 2015 - 10:19 AM ET #29

Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

The US has weakened, killed or corrupted all of the leaders in the region. Saudi Arabia (corrupted) is in tact because they work with the US to manipulate the price of oil. This allows the US to engage in economic warfare with countries like Russia and Iran.

To point at the chaos and say "look at those animals" is ridiculous.

People in the Middle East don't like Americans? Gee, I wonder why.

And how many heads have the U.S. cut off. Its only radicals in the Middle East like the ISIS who have nothing better to do with there stupid lives than to cut peoples heads off that hate Americans. If the ISIS doesn't scare you it should because they are every where just not over there. How would you like to be beheaded or burned to death. Its stop them now or keep your head up. It's time they give everyone in the region two weeks to exit and then go in a carpet bomb the bastxrds.

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Posted: Feb. 5, 2015 - 10:23 AM ET #30

I am really tired of waking up every morning and these idiots have cut another head off. And you say its only Americans they hate. Funny i am sure the last two were Japanese and the very last a Jordanian. This group is f..king INSANE. Not one for nuclear power but maybe its time to send a message like World War 11 and drop the big one.

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Posted: Feb. 5, 2015 - 12:40 PM ET #31

Nope. obama will win them over with the power of his personality.
Plus those guys don't play golf, so he's pretty safe.

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I_Need_A_Detox

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Posted: Feb. 5, 2015 - 5:34 PM ET #32

Quote Originally Posted by wizardofroz:

Obama instigated the Arab Spring, and he created ISIS, with the help of the CIA.

Probably. That's what we do. Gaddafi was trying to create the United States of Africa. That is something the US definitely does not want. We don't want another strong currency and we certainly don't want a single African military force.

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I_Need_A_Detox

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Posted: Feb. 5, 2015 - 5:41 PM ET #33

Quote Originally Posted by lookingtowin:

I am really tired of waking up every morning and these idiots have cut another head off. And you say its only Americans they hate. Funny i am sure the last two were Japanese and the very last a Jordanian. This group is f..king INSANE. Not one for nuclear power but maybe its time to send a message like World War 11 and drop the big one.

I agree.. ISIS is insane.. Too bad they didn't have a few tough leaders over there to deal with groups like ISIS. Oh wait, they did. Then the US got involved.

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Posted: Feb. 5, 2015 - 5:52 PM ET #34

Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

ISIS only exists because the US created chaos in the Middle East..

Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria.. Iran is next.

It's amusing that Americans can look at others and say they're the bad guys, we're the good guys.

What on earth is wrong with you?

Please make an appointment with a mental health professional.

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lookingtowin

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Posted: Feb. 5, 2015 - 6:24 PM ET #35

How is the world in general going to stop these idiots????????????

My other problem is they are brain washers you even have Americans and Canadians going over there to join these asxholes. WTF

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lookingtowin

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Posted: Feb. 5, 2015 - 6:36 PM ET #36

Here ISIS

come and get it. Unfortunately a bomb is to quick and to humane for them. I really like the bumper stickers that say its ISIS hunting season no limits. It's really tough at least in the world wars you new who you were fighting for the most part you could tell who were Germans, Japanese but with these prixks you don't know who is ISIS or not dangerous people.

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Posted: Feb. 5, 2015 - 8:03 PM ET #37

The best part is, isis kills their own people. Doesn't matter if you're a Kurd, a Sunni- they will kill you because you stand in the way of them making a name for themselves. If you're not with them, you're against them. They don't care for your religion, race, or what side of the world you come from.

al-shabaab, who runs extreme parallels to isis, perpetrated the Westgate Shopping Mall attacks in Nairobi in 2013. They would, at first, ask their hostages if they were muslim, and let them go if they answered yes, killed them if no. After a few hours, the hostages that bared witness to the gunmen, said that they would ask if a person were muslim or not, but would murder them anyway. They continued to slaughter muslims with the others until killing themselves after being barricaded in a garage level room.

Whether or not this uprising started because of American influence in the middle east, it is no longer of any significance. Like somebody that steals from the rich to give to the poor, eventually they start robbing everybody for their own self-gain; and because it's a constant and a norm in their life.

isis, al-shabaab- they want to be seen. They want attention for the shear fact that center stage is the best place to be. This isn't the Cairo demonstrations to get Mubarak out of office. This is full on war against anybody that defies NOT MUSLIM POLICY, but their policy. There is no other message being sent here. This isn't for a bigger reason than all of us. It's a belief system built on murdering and chaos upon every person that stands in the way of an attention-screaming group.

In all honesty, I think Detox's goal is to just get people angered and built up because he's from the forum that ALWAYS plays devil's advocate. A much less aggressive and far less tangible way to grab attention. I would never compare a simple-minded, helpless troll to one of the most disgusting and insane group to ever be assembled on this planet; but this should be a lesson that attention whoress of all shapes and sizes have no humility or censorship. They will say whatever they want and do whatever they feel like doing, all in the name of seeking nothing more than attention. Eventually, like the trolls, the antagonists, the thieves, the rapists, the murderers, the people that protest solider's funerals- it becomes a constant way of life. A job, an occupation. You think you're fighting for something, but in reality it is just yourself and your inability to corral all of the attention you feel you deserve.

The human brain is a f**ked up piece of equipment when in the wrong hands.

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The best part is, isis kills their own people. Doesn't matter if you're a Kurd, a Sunni- they will kill you because you stand in the way of them making a name for themselves. If you're not with them, you're against them. They don't care for your religion, race, or what side of the world you come from.

al-shabaab, who runs extreme parallels to isis, perpetrated the Westgate Shopping Mall attacks in Nairobi in 2013. They would, at first, ask their hostages if they were muslim, and let them go if they answered yes, killed them if no. After a few hours, the hostages that bared witness to the gunmen, said that they would ask if a person were muslim or not, but would murder them anyway. They continued to slaughter muslims with the others until killing themselves after being barricaded in a garage level room.

Whether or not this uprising started because of American influence in the middle east, it is no longer of any significance. Like somebody that steals from the rich to give to the poor, eventually they start robbing everybody for their own self-gain; and because it's a constant and a norm in their life.

isis, al-shabaab- they want to be seen. They want attention for the shear fact that center stage is the best place to be. This isn't the Cairo demonstrations to get Mubarak out of office. This is full on war against anybody that defies NOT MUSLIM POLICY, but their policy. There is no other message being sent here. This isn't for a bigger reason than all of us. It's a belief system built on murdering and chaos upon every person that stands in the way of an attention-screaming group.

In all honesty, I think Detox's goal is to just get people angered and built up because he's from the forum that ALWAYS plays devil's advocate. A much less aggressive and far less tangible way to grab attention. I would never compare a simple-minded, helpless troll to one of the most disgusting and insane group to ever be assembled on this planet; but this should be a lesson that attention whoress of all shapes and sizes have no humility or censorship. They will say whatever they want and do whatever they feel like doing, all in the name of seeking nothing more than attention. Eventually, like the trolls, the antagonists, the thieves, the rapists, the murderers, the people that protest solider's funerals- it becomes a constant way of life. A job, an occupation. You think you're fighting for something, but in reality it is just yourself and your inability to corral all of the attention you feel you deserve.

The human brain is a f**ked up piece of equipment when in the wrong hands.

searchwarrant

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Posted: Feb. 5, 2015 - 9:33 PM ET #38

In all honesty, I think Detox's goal is to just get people angered and built up because he's from the forum that ALWAYS plays devil's advocate. A much less aggressive and far less tangible way to grab attention. I would never compare a simple-minded, helpless troll to one of the most disgusting and insane group to ever be assembled on this planet; but this should be a lesson that attention whoress of all shapes and sizes.

He's an absolute freak. Has been for a good while.

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lookingtowin

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Posted: Feb. 5, 2015 - 10:08 PM ET #39

Quote Originally Posted by TheDrizzle77:

The best part is, isis kills their own people. Doesn't matter if you're a Kurd, a Sunni- they will kill you because you stand in the way of them making a name for themselves. If you're not with them, you're against them. They don't care for your religion, race, or what side of the world you come from.

al-shabaab, who runs extreme parallels to isis, perpetrated the Westgate Shopping Mall attacks in Nairobi in 2013. They would, at first, ask their hostages if they were muslim, and let them go if they answered yes, killed them if no. After a few hours, the hostages that bared witness to the gunmen, said that they would ask if a person were muslim or not, but would murder them anyway. They continued to slaughter muslims with the others until killing themselves after being barricaded in a garage level room.

Whether or not this uprising started because of American influence in the middle east, it is no longer of any significance. Like somebody that steals from the rich to give to the poor, eventually they start robbing everybody for their own self-gain; and because it's a constant and a norm in their life.

isis, al-shabaab- they want to be seen. They want attention for the shear fact that center stage is the best place to be. This isn't the Cairo demonstrations to get Mubarak out of office. This is full on war against anybody that defies NOT MUSLIM POLICY, but their policy. There is no other message being sent here. This isn't for a bigger reason than all of us. It's a belief system built on murdering and chaos upon every person that stands in the way of an attention-screaming group.

In all honesty, I think Detox's goal is to just get people angered and built up because he's from the forum that ALWAYS plays devil's advocate. A much less aggressive and far less tangible way to grab attention. I would never compare a simple-minded, helpless troll to one of the most disgusting and insane group to ever be assembled on this planet; but this should be a lesson that attention whoress of all shapes and sizes have no humility or censorship. They will say whatever they want and do whatever they feel like doing, all in the name of seeking nothing more than attention. Eventually, like the trolls, the antagonists, the thieves, the rapists, the murderers, the people that protest solider's funerals- it becomes a constant way of life. A job, an occupation. You think you're fighting for something, but in reality it is just yourself and your inability to corral all of the attention you feel you deserve.

The human brain is a f**ked up piece of equipment when in the wrong hands.

Well said.

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Quote Originally Posted by TheDrizzle77:

The best part is, isis kills their own people. Doesn't matter if you're a Kurd, a Sunni- they will kill you because you stand in the way of them making a name for themselves. If you're not with them, you're against them. They don't care for your religion, race, or what side of the world you come from.

al-shabaab, who runs extreme parallels to isis, perpetrated the Westgate Shopping Mall attacks in Nairobi in 2013. They would, at first, ask their hostages if they were muslim, and let them go if they answered yes, killed them if no. After a few hours, the hostages that bared witness to the gunmen, said that they would ask if a person were muslim or not, but would murder them anyway. They continued to slaughter muslims with the others until killing themselves after being barricaded in a garage level room.

Whether or not this uprising started because of American influence in the middle east, it is no longer of any significance. Like somebody that steals from the rich to give to the poor, eventually they start robbing everybody for their own self-gain; and because it's a constant and a norm in their life.

isis, al-shabaab- they want to be seen. They want attention for the shear fact that center stage is the best place to be. This isn't the Cairo demonstrations to get Mubarak out of office. This is full on war against anybody that defies NOT MUSLIM POLICY, but their policy. There is no other message being sent here. This isn't for a bigger reason than all of us. It's a belief system built on murdering and chaos upon every person that stands in the way of an attention-screaming group.

In all honesty, I think Detox's goal is to just get people angered and built up because he's from the forum that ALWAYS plays devil's advocate. A much less aggressive and far less tangible way to grab attention. I would never compare a simple-minded, helpless troll to one of the most disgusting and insane group to ever be assembled on this planet; but this should be a lesson that attention whoress of all shapes and sizes have no humility or censorship. They will say whatever they want and do whatever they feel like doing, all in the name of seeking nothing more than attention. Eventually, like the trolls, the antagonists, the thieves, the rapists, the murderers, the people that protest solider's funerals- it becomes a constant way of life. A job, an occupation. You think you're fighting for something, but in reality it is just yourself and your inability to corral all of the attention you feel you deserve.

The human brain is a f**ked up piece of equipment when in the wrong hands.

Well said.

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Posted: Feb. 5, 2015 - 10:46 PM ET #40

Does anyone know why the United States didn't just back Assad (Syrian Armed Forces) so groups like ISIS couldn't gain steam in Syria?

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Posted: Feb. 6, 2015 - 4:54 PM ET #41

Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

If terrorism was truly the main concern of the United States (it isn't) then destroying the Iraqi Armed Forces and killing Saddam was the dumbest possible move. On top of that, the US backed the "rebels" against Assad's Syrian Armed Forces. The US completely destabilized the region.

There would still be anger because we've been furthering the agenda of the US and the agenda of large corporations over there for a long time. Bin Laden gave some of their reasons in his 'letter to America'. I'm not saying he's 100 percent right and the US is 100 percent wrong.. But the debate is a lot more competitive than 99.999% of Americans think it is.. Obviously.. Propaganda works.

Yes or no?

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Posted: Feb. 6, 2015 - 5:03 PM ET #42

Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

Does anyone know why the United States didn't just back Assad (Syrian Armed Forces) so groups like ISIS couldn't gain steam in Syria?

RUSSIA

If you back Assad, you're siding with Russia. And Russia is the NUMBER ONE geopolitical enemy of United States.

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Posted: Feb. 6, 2015 - 5:48 PM ET #43

Quote Originally Posted by tdog25:

RUSSIA

If you back Assad, you're siding with Russia. And Russia is the NUMBER ONE geopolitical enemy of United States.

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Posted: Feb. 7, 2015 - 7:41 AM ET #44

Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

Does anyone know why the United States didn't just back Assad (Syrian Armed Forces) so groups like ISIS couldn't gain steam in Syria?

ISIS gained steam because Obama was arming them. We should have never butted into Syria's business.

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Posted: Feb. 7, 2015 - 1:22 PM ET #45

Quote Originally Posted by wizardofroz:

ISIS gained steam because Obama was arming them. We should have never butted into Syria's business.

Bush destabilized the entire region and used 9/11 as an excuse. If it makes you feel better to blame Obama that's fine. Either way ISIS only exists because of the United States.

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Agree w/ Jordan's response to ISIS.

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