Interesting. I'll have to read the Forbes article somewhere.
Kursh, I sensed that horse could have really turned it on for a record track time also. Seemed like a slightly conservative ride by Espanoza on the finish.
I would have full throttle whiped on both sides of that horse's asz on the final stretch.
Secretariat's mother quotes good horse but not a great horse. What she won't admit is that the new day of trip crown horses is that the field you're racing against is on fresh legs, not like the old days when most if not all horses had run in all three tracks in consecutive order. Sort of like the Congessional Metal Of Honor. Back in the day they would give you one for re enlisting. Now you pretty much have to die for the medal.
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Interesting. I'll have to read the Forbes article somewhere.
Kursh, I sensed that horse could have really turned it on for a record track time also. Seemed like a slightly conservative ride by Espanoza on the finish.
I would have full throttle whiped on both sides of that horse's asz on the final stretch.
Secretariat's mother quotes good horse but not a great horse. What she won't admit is that the new day of trip crown horses is that the field you're racing against is on fresh legs, not like the old days when most if not all horses had run in all three tracks in consecutive order. Sort of like the Congessional Metal Of Honor. Back in the day they would give you one for re enlisting. Now you pretty much have to die for the medal.
Probably a stupid question but does a trip crown winner really get big money on stud fees? Somebody in the horse forum said all depends on the blood line etc....
I think they paid only 300k for this horse site unseen because of a bump on his leg. Educate us.
It's all in the breeding, true. But there is also the desire to have a colt/filly that is bred from an actual Triple Crown winner (not a contender like Chrome, or others who won 1/3 races).
It may sound silly, but huge names draw huge fees...and people actually follow the "hump" to it's conception, to the sale, and then it's first race. CURLIN (who earned a whopping $10 MIL) and Zenyatta are two names that come to mind. I'm pretty sure their first crop sold for a million each.
And speaking of a million, that was the ASKING price for American Pharoah...he only sold for the $300k when the Zayats had seller's remorse. Take nothing away from the horse/story, but he did overcome the absolute test that was supposedly going to do him in. The distance run today is seldom used (it's just too long). And the schedule of rest is nothing that a serious trainer/owner would utilize. Unless you're talking about a $5000 horse (bottom of the barrel), in which case they're probably looking to flip or ditch completely. Stakes-quality horses MAY race once a month, if not every few months........so all that being said, YES, I definitely believe the Triple Crown status will account for a large(r) fee. *sorry bout the rant
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Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:
Probably a stupid question but does a trip crown winner really get big money on stud fees? Somebody in the horse forum said all depends on the blood line etc....
I think they paid only 300k for this horse site unseen because of a bump on his leg. Educate us.
It's all in the breeding, true. But there is also the desire to have a colt/filly that is bred from an actual Triple Crown winner (not a contender like Chrome, or others who won 1/3 races).
It may sound silly, but huge names draw huge fees...and people actually follow the "hump" to it's conception, to the sale, and then it's first race. CURLIN (who earned a whopping $10 MIL) and Zenyatta are two names that come to mind. I'm pretty sure their first crop sold for a million each.
And speaking of a million, that was the ASKING price for American Pharoah...he only sold for the $300k when the Zayats had seller's remorse. Take nothing away from the horse/story, but he did overcome the absolute test that was supposedly going to do him in. The distance run today is seldom used (it's just too long). And the schedule of rest is nothing that a serious trainer/owner would utilize. Unless you're talking about a $5000 horse (bottom of the barrel), in which case they're probably looking to flip or ditch completely. Stakes-quality horses MAY race once a month, if not every few months........so all that being said, YES, I definitely believe the Triple Crown status will account for a large(r) fee. *sorry bout the rant
This was the best/worst day at a local casino I've had in years. Played a $60 trifecta box 5, 6, 7 and nailed it for 3,000 and change (3480 I believe but don't quote me cuz the ticket is long cashed.)
But then you had to subtract $200 in exacta losses, $60 in trifecta losses, $200 on Keen Ice to-win, $100 on Mubtaahij to place last, then the baccarat table. Ohhhhh my God, I swear I lost 9 hands in a row and then just left. And I tell you, this was at a $25 min table.
Boy if I could've just walked away from Meadows after that race. Bacccccccaaarrraaaaatttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
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This was the best/worst day at a local casino I've had in years. Played a $60 trifecta box 5, 6, 7 and nailed it for 3,000 and change (3480 I believe but don't quote me cuz the ticket is long cashed.)
But then you had to subtract $200 in exacta losses, $60 in trifecta losses, $200 on Keen Ice to-win, $100 on Mubtaahij to place last, then the baccarat table. Ohhhhh my God, I swear I lost 9 hands in a row and then just left. And I tell you, this was at a $25 min table.
Boy if I could've just walked away from Meadows after that race. Bacccccccaaarrraaaaatttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
It's all in the breeding, true. But there is also the desire to have a colt/filly that is bred from an actual Triple Crown winner (not a contender like Chrome, or others who won 1/3 races).
It may sound silly, but huge names draw huge fees...and people actually follow the "hump" to it's conception, to the sale, and then it's first race. CURLIN (who earned a whopping $10 MIL) and Zenyatta are two names that come to mind. I'm pretty sure their first crop sold for a million each.
And speaking of a million, that was the ASKING price for American Pharoah...he only sold for the $300k when the Zayats had seller's remorse. Take nothing away from the horse/story, but he did overcome the absolute test that was supposedly going to do him in. The distance run today is seldom used (it's just too long). And the schedule of rest is nothing that a serious trainer/owner would utilize. Unless you're talking about a $5000 horse (bottom of the barrel), in which case they're probably looking to flip or ditch completely. Stakes-quality horses MAY race once a month, if not every few months........so all that being said, YES, I definitely believe the Triple Crown status will account for a large(r) fee. *sorry bout the rant
Great read & information, thanks dude.
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Quote Originally Posted by DUDE-I-TOLD-YOU:
It's all in the breeding, true. But there is also the desire to have a colt/filly that is bred from an actual Triple Crown winner (not a contender like Chrome, or others who won 1/3 races).
It may sound silly, but huge names draw huge fees...and people actually follow the "hump" to it's conception, to the sale, and then it's first race. CURLIN (who earned a whopping $10 MIL) and Zenyatta are two names that come to mind. I'm pretty sure their first crop sold for a million each.
And speaking of a million, that was the ASKING price for American Pharoah...he only sold for the $300k when the Zayats had seller's remorse. Take nothing away from the horse/story, but he did overcome the absolute test that was supposedly going to do him in. The distance run today is seldom used (it's just too long). And the schedule of rest is nothing that a serious trainer/owner would utilize. Unless you're talking about a $5000 horse (bottom of the barrel), in which case they're probably looking to flip or ditch completely. Stakes-quality horses MAY race once a month, if not every few months........so all that being said, YES, I definitely believe the Triple Crown status will account for a large(r) fee. *sorry bout the rant
My dad and I used to go to all the big races together every year. I was glad to see it and purchased 40 win tickets on him. They show Sam Houston on top but are still good keepsakes. Wore dads necklace like I always do. Sure do miss ApacheM!!
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My dad and I used to go to all the big races together every year. I was glad to see it and purchased 40 win tickets on him. They show Sam Houston on top but are still good keepsakes. Wore dads necklace like I always do. Sure do miss ApacheM!!
My dad and I used to go to all the big races together every year. I was glad to see it and purchased 40 win tickets on him. They show Sam Houston on top but are still good keepsakes. Wore dads necklace like I always do. Sure do miss ApacheM!!
I know how it feels bro.
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Quote Originally Posted by jcmhou1:
My dad and I used to go to all the big races together every year. I was glad to see it and purchased 40 win tickets on him. They show Sam Houston on top but are still good keepsakes. Wore dads necklace like I always do. Sure do miss ApacheM!!
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