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    Posted: May. 21, 2012 - 7:56 PM ET #51

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    Posted: May. 21, 2012 - 8:33 PM ET #52

    so before today, 100 shares of FB $3800 vs 10 shares of apple at $5300 is SIGNIFICANT?

    ok bro.  

    also,can you explain which cost outlays/economies of scale you speak of?

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    so before today, 100 shares of FB $3800 vs 10 shares of apple at $5300 is SIGNIFICANT?

    ok bro.  

    also,can you explain which cost outlays/economies of scale you speak of?

     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2012 - 8:43 PM ET #53

    also, the 'cheapness' or 'bargain-ability' for lack of a better word of a stock has nothing to do with its stock price.  it does have to do with their PE ratio. so when people talk about how apple is so expensive, its really only a 14 P/E.  they could do a 10-1 split and make it a $56 dollar stock and nothing would change.  

    so you need to look at a stocks price to earnings ratio but errrm ill give you a pardon on that one with Facebook and their looming question over the E part of the equation.  
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    also, the 'cheapness' or 'bargain-ability' for lack of a better word of a stock has nothing to do with its stock price.  it does have to do with their PE ratio. so when people talk about how apple is so expensive, its really only a 14 P/E.  they could do a 10-1 split and make it a $56 dollar stock and nothing would change.  

    so you need to look at a stocks price to earnings ratio but errrm ill give you a pardon on that one with Facebook and their looming question over the E part of the equation.  
     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2012 - 9:31 PM ET #55

    hmm ok, not sold on your arguments.  seems like you are trying to save face with your $1500 being significant argument, but only you know if thats the case.  

    ill point out that the number (1500) has become $2200 overnight.  100 shares of Facebook is 3400 and 10 shares of apple is 5600.  so to place a lot of faith in this 1500 is dangerous.  i.e. your 29% argument just skyrocketed to about 40% in 1 trading day.  

    but this whole debate is moot if you just buy 8 shares of apple.  the point of this debate is lost in your argument of the average investor clunking down $5600 vs $3200, i think.  
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    hmm ok, not sold on your arguments.  seems like you are trying to save face with your $1500 being significant argument, but only you know if thats the case.  

    ill point out that the number (1500) has become $2200 overnight.  100 shares of Facebook is 3400 and 10 shares of apple is 5600.  so to place a lot of faith in this 1500 is dangerous.  i.e. your 29% argument just skyrocketed to about 40% in 1 trading day.  

    but this whole debate is moot if you just buy 8 shares of apple.  the point of this debate is lost in your argument of the average investor clunking down $5600 vs $3200, i think.  
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2012 - 11:10 AM ET #58

    facebook is a joke, no?  when investing you want to ask yourself if the company has been around for 5 years and if they will likely be around for the next 5.  good rule of thumb.

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    facebook is a joke, no?  when investing you want to ask yourself if the company has been around for 5 years and if they will likely be around for the next 5.  good rule of thumb.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2012 - 12:05 PM ET #59

    So now they still have over a billion shares to release.  What is going to happen to the price??
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    So now they still have over a billion shares to release.  What is going to happen to the price??
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2012 - 12:45 PM ET #60

    FB first 90 days 

    Check out the last part of the article that talks about the potential float later on this year.
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    Check out the last part of the article that talks about the potential float later on this year.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2012 - 12:50 PM ET #61

    1.91 Billion more shares could hit the market.  If I was an employee that got the stock as compensation for something, I would consider taking the money and running asap.

    One has to think that we are looking at the 12-15$ range by christmas.......with the rumors of integrating internet gambling into FB in europe and abroad, it will be worth buying at some point, but my guess is after thanksgiving at the earliest.

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    1.91 Billion more shares could hit the market.  If I was an employee that got the stock as compensation for something, I would consider taking the money and running asap.

    One has to think that we are looking at the 12-15$ range by christmas.......with the rumors of integrating internet gambling into FB in europe and abroad, it will be worth buying at some point, but my guess is after thanksgiving at the earliest.

     
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    Employees aren't allowed to sell their stock within a certain time period, usually 90-180 days irc, since they're considered insiders. If it's 90 days it's pretty close to that date right around now. There ways around that that are kinda shady; one can have a friend short the stock offshore (if that's even possible with a new stock) or have the person lock the profit through options.

    In any case ,most often the worse case scencario in these situations is the employees still make a lot of money since he owns it at a low price. It's just a matter of how much money he end up with and "what could have been or should have been ".
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    Employees aren't allowed to sell their stock within a certain time period, usually 90-180 days irc, since they're considered insiders. If it's 90 days it's pretty close to that date right around now. There ways around that that are kinda shady; one can have a friend short the stock offshore (if that's even possible with a new stock) or have the person lock the profit through options.

    In any case ,most often the worse case scencario in these situations is the employees still make a lot of money since he owns it at a low price. It's just a matter of how much money he end up with and "what could have been or should have been ".
     
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    FB will see $200 before it ever sees $50 again. 
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