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    GM moves jobs to mexico from Canada

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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2017 - 10:16 AM ET #1

    General Motors Co will cut 625 jobs at its auto assembly plant in Ingersoll, Ontario, by the end of July as it moves some production work to Mexico, the president of Canada's largest auto workers union said on Friday.

    The union blamed the North American Free Trade Agreement and Mexico's cheaper labor costs for the job losses, which it called unjustified given strong sales of the Chevrolet Equinox crossover and GMC Terrain sport utility vehicle assembled in the southern Ontario plant.

    "This came right out of left field," said Jerry Dias, president of the Unifor union. "This nothing to do with Trump, but it has everything to do with NAFTA."

    gm junk built south of the border way south....

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    General Motors Co will cut 625 jobs at its auto assembly plant in Ingersoll, Ontario, by the end of July as it moves some production work to Mexico, the president of Canada's largest auto workers union said on Friday.

    The union blamed the North American Free Trade Agreement and Mexico's cheaper labor costs for the job losses, which it called unjustified given strong sales of the Chevrolet Equinox crossover and GMC Terrain sport utility vehicle assembled in the southern Ontario plant.

    "This came right out of left field," said Jerry Dias, president of the Unifor union. "This nothing to do with Trump, but it has everything to do with NAFTA."

    gm junk built south of the border way south....

     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2017 - 9:28 AM ET #2

    Blame Lame duck Clinton and GOP senate & House for this wonderful Deal! Ross said he could hear the vacuum sucking
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2017 - 9:31 AM ET #3

    Nafta ....someone got rich...But not the working stiff
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    Nafta ....someone got rich...But not the working stiff
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2017 - 11:09 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

     

    "This came right out of left field," said Jerry Dias, president of the Unifor union. "This nothing to do with Trump, but it has everything to do with NAFTA."

    Jerry, Jerry, Jerry ... clearly you don't watch MSM in the states.

    EVERYTHING is Hitler's ... I mean Trump's fault.

    7 days into his Presidency, he has already been deemed the worst POTUS in American history by the MSM.

    Personally, I disagree wholeheartedly with some of Trump's executive orders thus far ... but even I know to give him a full 2 weeks before declaring every breath he takes as a monumental failure 

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    "This came right out of left field," said Jerry Dias, president of the Unifor union. "This nothing to do with Trump, but it has everything to do with NAFTA."

    Jerry, Jerry, Jerry ... clearly you don't watch MSM in the states.

    EVERYTHING is Hitler's ... I mean Trump's fault.

    7 days into his Presidency, he has already been deemed the worst POTUS in American history by the MSM.

    Personally, I disagree wholeheartedly with some of Trump's executive orders thus far ... but even I know to give him a full 2 weeks before declaring every breath he takes as a monumental failure 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2017 - 11:46 AM ET #5

    Somebody just take the god dam*n  PEN away from him!!! I picture Mel Brooks behind the desk crosseyed!!!
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    Somebody just take the god dam*n  PEN away from him!!! I picture Mel Brooks behind the desk crosseyed!!!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2017 - 12:01 PM ET #6

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbrcRKqLSRw


    is anyone educated anymore?
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbrcRKqLSRw


    is anyone educated anymore?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2017 - 10:44 AM ET #7

    I'm from Ontario, no ties to GM or any kind of manufacturing but I would say this is also due in large part to the skyrocketing hydro rates in Ontario over the past decade thanks to the complete mismanagement of our energy policy by the provincial government.  It really is almost an pandora's box if you really want to get into it but basically just rates alone have gone up about 200% in the past 8 years not to mention all the extra service and "debt" charges that get added to everyone's bill, to again pay for the many years of corporate mismanagement by the actual utility company.

    It's been a significant enough increase to be throwing some individual families into financial difficulties, but extrapolate that to manufacturer's with electric bills in the 10's and 100's of thousands per month and I'm surprised they were still here to begin with. 
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    I'm from Ontario, no ties to GM or any kind of manufacturing but I would say this is also due in large part to the skyrocketing hydro rates in Ontario over the past decade thanks to the complete mismanagement of our energy policy by the provincial government.  It really is almost an pandora's box if you really want to get into it but basically just rates alone have gone up about 200% in the past 8 years not to mention all the extra service and "debt" charges that get added to everyone's bill, to again pay for the many years of corporate mismanagement by the actual utility company.

    It's been a significant enough increase to be throwing some individual families into financial difficulties, but extrapolate that to manufacturer's with electric bills in the 10's and 100's of thousands per month and I'm surprised they were still here to begin with. 
     
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    According to University of Pennsylvania study, manufacturing jobs would still be losted in US and Canada with or without NAFTA.  For decades, worldwide trend of manufacturing jobs going to lower wage countries. 

    According to wikipedia, most economists and Chambers of commerce agreed NAFTA have been of positive net benefit to US and Canada.  Without NAFTA, there would be less exports, less economic growth and higher prices for consumers.
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    According to wikipedia, most economists and Chambers of commerce agreed NAFTA have been of positive net benefit to US and Canada.  Without NAFTA, there would be less exports, less economic growth and higher prices for consumers.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2017 - 11:32 PM ET #9

    gm (governmental motors) is a very liberal top management.

    they started do downward spiral on palladium stocks,

    in effort to corner the market on this 'little nuisance silver"

    they began to buy huge stock piles of the metal.

    The metal is used in catalytic convertors when heated it becomes charged with static electricity sucking dust out the exhaust of tail pipes.

    The dust then with no where to go and no defined place to open and clean becomes a replacement part in around 180,000 the catalytic plugs and then begins to start power drains on motors.

    the part is needed to reduce emission a trap door would all that is needed to convert the part to a maintance part, but any tampering with convertor is now illegal to pass inspections, hence the part must be replaced.

    a core is assessed due to this and platinum used to make it. It became such a precious metal that literally thieves were cutting this part from parked cars, to extract this metal.

    When new palladium sources were found  . the market floundered and gm sitting on such vast stocks at 2,000 an ounce began to tailspin as the metal fell to historic lows when the us cleaned its debt.

    Gold hit rock bottom platinum palladium and silver were a quarter what there worth is now. second blow to gm was the exploding gas tank issues with the part outside the frame a direct side collision resulted in fire.

    Finally the tailgate on trucks began to fail as the plastic would be damaged the inner iron cable would then deteriate and the tailgates would literally fall off when opened. resulting in more litigation.

    these factors piled on the commodities and reduction in car and truck sales began to start to push gm to bankruptcy before the stock crash. when the stock market crashed it drove GM to needing a bailout, The company owns pattens and designs on Pontiac, Buick, Gm Chevy and oldsmobile slowly it has reduced it line to Just chevy , buick caddilac and GMC , letting go of production on the mid luxury pkgs.

    GM is trying to restructure, but I believe the move to Mexico is political as it is necessary, for why not move back to Flint or Detroit. With Ford dismissing plans to build in Mexico, Gm seems to be ready to fill this void with the proposed site.


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    gm (governmental motors) is a very liberal top management.

    they started do downward spiral on palladium stocks,

    in effort to corner the market on this 'little nuisance silver"

    they began to buy huge stock piles of the metal.

    The metal is used in catalytic convertors when heated it becomes charged with static electricity sucking dust out the exhaust of tail pipes.

    The dust then with no where to go and no defined place to open and clean becomes a replacement part in around 180,000 the catalytic plugs and then begins to start power drains on motors.

    the part is needed to reduce emission a trap door would all that is needed to convert the part to a maintance part, but any tampering with convertor is now illegal to pass inspections, hence the part must be replaced.

    a core is assessed due to this and platinum used to make it. It became such a precious metal that literally thieves were cutting this part from parked cars, to extract this metal.

    When new palladium sources were found  . the market floundered and gm sitting on such vast stocks at 2,000 an ounce began to tailspin as the metal fell to historic lows when the us cleaned its debt.

    Gold hit rock bottom platinum palladium and silver were a quarter what there worth is now. second blow to gm was the exploding gas tank issues with the part outside the frame a direct side collision resulted in fire.

    Finally the tailgate on trucks began to fail as the plastic would be damaged the inner iron cable would then deteriate and the tailgates would literally fall off when opened. resulting in more litigation.

    these factors piled on the commodities and reduction in car and truck sales began to start to push gm to bankruptcy before the stock crash. when the stock market crashed it drove GM to needing a bailout, The company owns pattens and designs on Pontiac, Buick, Gm Chevy and oldsmobile slowly it has reduced it line to Just chevy , buick caddilac and GMC , letting go of production on the mid luxury pkgs.

    GM is trying to restructure, but I believe the move to Mexico is political as it is necessary, for why not move back to Flint or Detroit. With Ford dismissing plans to build in Mexico, Gm seems to be ready to fill this void with the proposed site.


     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerpower10:

    What a stupid comment. Idiots

    How so?  Or maybe I'm speaking to Dalton right now....
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